Preek // Clifford Goldstein // The Pre-Advent Judgement

[@HIAgronomy]

Last generation theology, being preached broadly in our Church by many, left me rather discouraged and hopeless. Your sermon just gave me the heavenly hope I was desperately needing and looking for. Thank you Elder Goldstein.

[@MichaellaSapphire]

What is last generation theology?

[@donnabeavon4485]

Praise God, Jesus gets us through the judgement! " if we confess our sins,He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness ". EW says it beautifully.." when we accept Jesus as our Savior, His character stands in place of our character and we are accepted before God as though we had not sinned".

[@amosmaganga7406]

Powerful message. Thanks very much pastor.

[@YawSarkodie-u6o]

This message gets beyond the Cross. Its only the remnant church that knows it and preaches it.

[@raysmith9650]

My friend, if the gospel message is not built rock solid on the cross we have no hope. Calvary was the day of atonement when Christ's blood was shed and accepted by the Father as confirmed in the resurrection of Jesus. Until we understand the cross as the judgment of this world, we cannot understand what it means to stand before the judgment seat of God at the end of time.

[@michaelgilhooley682]

Gold , praise God .

[@NewtonBarbe-to5kd]

Right now I need the righteousness of Jesus to cover me..amen 🙏

[@ilaitiatakali2130]

The righteousness of Christ is not a cloak to cover unconfessed and unforsaken sin.

[@makaalastone9061]

Aloha from the Island of Maui, Hawai'ian Kingdom/SMK! As we peer through the "lens" of the Blueprint Sanctuary, we are able to see the pilgrimage of the Lord's Remnant Ecclesia of Living Stones, that has brought us to Present Truth 2024, where the living stones of His Last Generation-Remnant Ecclesia of Living Stones; as the rendezvous stands just before us, where "we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:..." are individually preparing to meet our Lord in the air, clothed with the Righteousness of Jesus covering our "nakedness," then we will rise to meet our Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with our Lord! By these words of hope and promise, we comfort and are comforted, by one another! Your friend and brother in Christ.

[@nirmalaray_p6g]

Thank you

[@philvdk6540]

With respect Clifford, you claimed several times that you were just reading scripture - and therefore that (a) there is a literal judgment that God will conduct and (b) that such judgment will essentially be a legal (and therefore penal) process. Yes, you are quoting scripture - but you have failed to acknowledge that you are subconsciously perceiving and therefore interpreting such through a fallen-human (ie 'lower') paradigm of understanding. And bible translators unwittingly did the same thing. In contrast, Isaiah 55:8-9 alerts us that God's ways (of both being and doing) are "higher" or 'qualitatively different' to our ways of being and doing. God's 'judgment' is nothing like our human paradigm of judgment. God's qualitatively different 'judgment' is functionally unpacked in 1 Corinthians 4:5 and Ecclesiastes 12:14 - being revelation of what is unseen so that everything becomes 'self-evident'. That salvation is not essentially a legal phenomenon - and therefore that God's "higher" form of 'judgment' is not a legal phenomenon - is evident by Isaiah 53:5 use of the term "healed" rather than exonerated or pardoned. If you were to point out to me that scripture does in fact incorporate legal imagery and references, I would direct you to consider Jesus words in, for example, Mark 4:30-32. Any good teacher knows that in order to help lead a learner to apprehend and come to understand the unknown, it is necessary to start with the known and then bridge from there. So, yes, the bible does incorporate paradigms humans are familiar with - but these are the entry points to then growing our understanding of the characteristics of God's actual "higher" ways of being and doing. Those 'metaphors' are not the literal realities of God's "higher" ways - otherwise God's ways would actually not be "higher" than ours.

[@raysmith9650]

Clifford Goldstein, where do we find the gospel in Daniel 8:14? The gospel is found in the declaration made in 2 Corinthians 5:21. On the cross Christ, who knew no sin, was made to be sin for us. There he took our guilt, our judgement, our condemnation, our death. His shed blood on the cross makes available to every believer the righteousness of God here and now and as it has done for almost two thousand years. His shed blood, his death and resurrection, opened the new and living way through the curtain of his own body, rent on the cross to save sinners, and to grant us entry back into the Holy of Holies, the very heart of God. That has been the gospel sanctuary message since Calvay, built rock solid on the finished work of Christ on the cross.

[@drouxn3383]

if God finished His work on calvary, it begs the question, why is He delaying for 2000 years since His death, why can't He just take us home then and avoid all the unnecessary sufferings? What is He doing right now while we suffer here on earth? Don't you think these are valid questions to ask..

[@raysmith9650]

@drouxn3383 It is Christ who said it was finished just moments before he died. It is up to us to determine exactly what was finished on the cross and to live by it. In other words, everything needed to forgive and save us was completed on the cross. God is now playing with sinners to repent and He will bring all things to an end in His own good time.

[@theway5563]

@@raysmith9650 Christ’s role was finished. The holy spirit works with us so we can become a finished product.

[@respiratoryed]

Perhaps we are the sanctuary to be cleansed.

[@raysmith9650]

@@respiratoryed I think you are closer to the truth than many are willing to admit. We are living stones built into a holy temple with Christ as the chief cornerstone.

[@alongcamejones309]

Confused SDA man 🙄😔

[@dallyjacobson2146]

How can you sit through this appalling false preaching

[@richardtite8469]

Sounds like a confused understanding of what is meant by sanctuary. Tabernacle, temple, therefore safe space ( sanctuary). New testament times is within the believer. Temple of the Holy Spirit. God's glory represented by the Holy Spirit ( mirroring God's presence in the tabernacle). Any restoration ( cleansing) refers to getting people back to the right relationship with Christ. No judgement required, only relationship. Simple.

[@michaelreyes8182]

''Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead'' Acts 17:31 "And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.'' John 5:27 'Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 ''And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 6 ''For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. 2 Peter 2:4 ''For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10 ''For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:14 ''In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Roman 2:16 ''But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? Romans 14:10 ''For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Then every one of us shall give an account of himself to God. Romans 14:12 ''But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36 ''For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Mathew 12:37 Richard says... judgment not required... Scripture declares...''all will be judged'' Richard you are living in Lala land. I know I was once a Sunday-keeping evangelical. The only thing you left out of your comment was..'' once saved, always saved''

[@MichaellaSapphire]

No judgment required? Have you read the book of Revelation?

[@Feroxx65]

what? No judgment? Where can you find a single text that provides no judgment? In fact there many verses in the bible that talks about judgment. Well. Satan wants people to be deceived like in the garden of Eden. Eve said that we will die when we eat the forbidden fruit. But the devil said you shall not surely die, the bible tells judgment but Satan says no judgment at all. Satan is always in opposition to God. 2Cor. 5:10, Rev. 20:12, Ecc.12:14.