Premium Chinese wheels, 2 YEARS later… Elitewheels Drive 50D

[@galenkehler]

That 50/50 😂😂😂 Truly one mustache to rule them all❤

[@AG-el6vt]

The halfstache deserves its own like.

[@VSUKWizard]

🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@hockysa]

😂😂😂😂 omg the transition to gravel and road cyclist 🤣🤣🤣 dying

[@HoshinoMirai]

I am so distracted by the asymmetric mustache

[@KamikazeCommie501]

I'm glad I missed the poll because I might've swayed it and this result is better than I could've ever imagined.

[@ridingflats]

Would be cool to see a long review of the cheaper wheelset they make, see how they stack up for $600.

[@qwertyazerty2137]

Massive kudos and a 🥖 for shooting the entire show with this halfstache. It's absolutely hilarious 😄

[@leonmarshall4383]

The semi mustache 😂😂😂 Ok now that's funny right there. Keep up the good work.

[@georgepepper5993]

Luke, I purchased the same wheels about two months after You. I had a tubeless tire blow off the rim while I was riding it. There are serval possible causes of the failure on my side and Elite side of the failure. I noticed that the rim tape that Elite uses is two wide for the rim bed and went up the inner wall of the rim close to the rim hook. Their rim tape is also not traditional rim tape and looks like electronic masking tape that does not stretch. Elite customer service was bad, they just wanted to sell me a new front wheel. Great video thanks for the review.

[@Fatbutnotflat]

Even without sound i can perfectly hear Luke's voice , in my head. Even until the bonus bit. Keep up the good work! The stache is gold.

[@ThomasPrenner]

Great content, as always 🥖! I've been using the 50D for around 1.5 years now with 10.600 km on it and without a single issue. They also sold me a version without any decals, which I really appreciate...

[@suhdud4646]

I’ve got a set of the Helix 68Ds and they’re fantastic. One thing overlooked regarding patent, Qvist stated they have never outsourced their manufacturing meaning that the Drive Helix hub is a unique design to Elite. It may resemble similarly designed elements but so does every single bicycle in the world having two wheels. You don’t see brands during brands because their wheels do the same as the next brand.

[@kubackjeee]

qvist just wanted some fame. No one have heard of them before. Elite wheels have their own r&d and own factory unlike most of the brands. They don't need to copy a small garage company from Germany that they've never heard of.

[@stuartdryer1352]

I like mine. But I had some issues with bearings on the rear wheel very early on. They replaced them for free, no problems since.

[@kpizzle1985]

That's so much better than the response I got from Scribe when both wheels fell apart after 10 months. They offered me 40% off a new set, after 2 months of quoting the sales of goods act I finally got a refund!

[@wilsonwong6585]

Would love for you do to a video on the differences between Elite's USA wheels vs the ones they sell on Ali-Express. ie, Elite Drive vs Elite Edge.

[@TaichoCyclist]

I got a customed DRIVE45D from EliteWheels for 1260 grams. They are also my all-purpose road wheels for my rides. They are really great on flats and light for climbs on club rides and races. They are beautifully made and made my TIME Alpe d'Huez look really great with the glossy marbled finish. I do highly recommend the DRIVE wheelset if you want the balance of budget and performance without burning a huge pothole in the pocket.

[@not-a-raccoon]

Clicked like before the ad finished.

[@arthurstreet2811]

the commitment to the gag to continue with half the stache is awesome.

[@levonscheijbeler7901]

Enjoyed this and the rest of your content. Thank you for the detailed information you shared after 2 years of driving with these wheels. I used your discount code to buy a 65D set, so thanks a lot! 🙏

[@doncrescas]

Nice touch with the split color shirt to match the half stache. Bravo.

[@bernierei657]

Hey Luke! Thanks for making my day with that 50/50 mustache :D

[@lpoolck17]

2:48 well played for diagnosing that issue! 👏

[@EstelonAgarwaen]

Have to say, while they are heavier, i like my campy shamal carbon wheels. The bearings are cup and cone style, but with a crankset style preload ring. Look great too.

[@BartSchrijvers]

The spokes are stiff but the actual rim itself feels softer, in a good way. The wheels feel very responsive and the power transfer is direct, yet the wheel is also compliant thanks to the softer rim. It’s the other way around with my Enve’s. That rim is incredibly stiff, and the steel spokes create some slack you kinda want but also affects their responsiveness in a bad way.

[@hengliang4344]

Hey guys here are some info from China for you all. The entry-level carbon wheels we use in China start at 1600 RMB (203 euros). The biggest city in carbon wheels industry is XiaMen(厦门), many reputable brands' carbon wheels were OEM in XiaMen. Those wheels are great for training and commuting, but you may face some quality-control issues that need to be returned and repaired by the seller.

[@LawrenceSeetoh]

Thank you Luke, that was very informative and also for the 50/50 stache commitment. 🥖🥖🥖

[@boyacki]

Oh the funnies are on point, favourite video so far, material and semi tash 😅 thank you for bringing joyful and informative material, struggling with life ATM but you make my day every day I view your work, thank you Luke! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Tres bien, 👌👌👌

[@kabadisha]

Life can be tough, but you got this! Stay strong and have the highest of high-fives from a stranger on the intertubes 😊

[@boyacki]

@@kabadisha thank you for the gesture as this embodies community spirit. Aside from the joyful bike content here, I found solace in the teachings and findings from Ryan Holiday and Andrew Huberman. This here balances me out but thank you for the long distance virtual uplift! Have a great day !

[@XJ1345]

I got a pair of G45 since 2.5k Kilometers. Weirdly I got one bearing to break but since switching them out (Elite payed for the repair as it was within guarantee) everything works fine. love the wheelset

[@fredzajdel122]

I purchased 2 sets of these wheeels 2 years ago and I love them and would recommend them!

[@rosomak8244]

This bearing was not "ever so slightly crunchy". This is a shot bearing. Good you tossed it.

[@themanabroad7800]

You’re so freaking bike tech/mech savvy, I envy your knowledge

[@ericbarbosatravels1391]

The shim washers are a godsend for let’s say Shimano CG-800 (11-34) on 11sp freehubs. My bike mechanic showed me that trick. Always handy to have those around

[@montrose252]

I LOVE my Elite Drive 50V wheels! (I bought the extra rigid model. If I had to do it over again, I would get the lightweight version). It's like a Zipp, Corima or Campagnolo for 1/4 the price!

[@Eureeka13]

Thanks for the review. Recently bought a pair with the help of your previous review. Amazing so far! It would be great to see how/how well these can be re-trued. Curious about this given the non-conventional carbon spoke setup.

[@weeedstarrr]

The patent stuff sounds indeed really intresting. Thanks for bringing this up!

[@jakobtheclock]

I had much more problems with the bearings. They worn out pretty fast and there was play. With new other bearings it's better now.

[@mauricetremblay1324]

lol. Love the dial look.

[@lorenzogiusto3222]

I am so happy with my Elite drive G45 steel spokes. My previous bike was a rim brake and had the drive 50v. The G45 are lightweight, 24mm internal width and setup tubeless with 28mm tires they are an absolute pleasure to ride.

[@kubackjeee]

How would you compare stiffness, responsivnes and holding speed between those two?

[@KayDat]

You should have pre-filmed some segments with full 'stache, some with half 'stache and some with clean shave, and just cut between them throughout the video just to keep us on our toes!

[@traceassets]

Haha, top effort with half & half ! I'd say the "no tashies" won in the end 😂

[@sethwilson1355]

I got a set of 60mm elite wheel for like $450 and absolutely love them so far, would be cool to see you review the even more cheaper Chinese carbon wheels

[@ellipticalsoul]

The patent dispute will probably boil down to whoever can afford to pay lawyers to drag the dispute on long enough to make the other side give in/settle

[@SkyRiseee]

I'd be interested to see in some upgraded stuff regards gravel. I'm currently have a cube one and looking for some upgrade.

[@Killroy76]

My Elite wheels were out of balance. I had to add 4.5 grams of magnetic golf stickers to the inside of my rim. Now I am happy 🥖

[@wh4t3VAH]

I have a set from a different brand and when I spin them on the bike stand, the whole bike "vibrates/moves around". I guess that's the indication of a non balanced wheel. How did you find out where to place the weight?

[@Killroy76]

Hambini and GPLama made a YT Movie on this but the best to me was done by OZ Cycle. Just search for it with „Balance your wheels“. It made a difference to of day/Night in handling my bike

[@Killroy76]

@@wh4t3VAH Oz Cycle made a movie on balancing your wheels. That was the best explenation to me

[@dcv9460]

LOVE the TWO-FACE! 😂😂😂 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@humphuk]

I might have a dig into the patent stuff (your summary sounded correct). As you say it doesn't look as if the patent has been granted - though filed in Germany, Europe, China and the US. If granted, it would impact both the manufacture and sales in the granted country. I have had a brief look at the prosecution - and the patent searches have unearthed some significant prior art. So - as always in patents - its complicated. I will have a read later. I haven't found the patent that elite wheels are licencing - but it isn't strictly relevant.

[@Essenzcycling]

Apparently, links don't work here. But go to Google Patents, the patent number should be CN218477375U for the Chinese patent.

[@tommarty879]

HI Luke, love your content. Idea for an episode... I would like to see the weight saving of a fully set up tubeless wheels vs lightweight tubes. My thought is it is not much with the goop and stem. Congrats on the baby girl.

[@robbeelsas]

If you do the math, tubeless is actually heavier than using TPU inner tubes

[@maxritter7868]

Aw I was hoping the halfstache would become a new channel trademark

[@wimpie031]

I like the choice of shirt, complements the tache on/off 😊😊

[@stevew007uk]

Another great video Luke, keep it up!

[@aldrinclementina4297]

🤣 The switch.How is that Trifox doing Luke?

[@renesakata1737]

I love my Elite wheel sets. The only gripe I have is with ALL my Elite MTB wheels, they take an unusual high pressure until the tires plop, no matter if I use tubeless or tubes. I even have to grease them (with soap water) to get them to plop around 4.5 Bar (65psi). My Bike Ahead and Syncros wheels need less than 3bar to plop. Very puzzling.

[@lamba105]

🥖(That's half a baguette). Love the commitment to the poll results lol

[@Silidons91]

What confuses me is how crazy popular these became, while a company like FarSports, where you can get a more custom wheelset, with dt swiss 240 exp hubs for less than $1k, completely surpassed them with just straight up advertising (mostly though social media and here on youtube)

[@robbeelsas]

These were, for the longest time, the lightest Chinese wheelset on the market

[@iloverugby4ever]

It's not that inexpensive anymore as far as I've seen :(

[@n22pdf]

Brilliant love the moustache or halftash 😂 great humour dude.. shame you can’t get the polished hubs anymore.. Pete 🚴🏻👍

[@danford9646]

Oh, there is a long term wheel review here too...

[@matt_acton-varian]

I see you decided to sport the Nick J Townsend / Weak13 look 😂😂😂 (local musician, actor, journalist - one side of his face and head is clean shaven the other full long hair and beard). On another note, I have just serviced my SLT freehub with the same bearings - bearings are smooth after 4000 km and just needrf some oil on the freehub pawls.

[@EdwardGraves-jk1bp]

🥖 With the newer 9 velo cd 2.0 series, which are lighter and come with carbon spokes, would they be the wheels to go for? Looking as a crit racer but also go to the mountains for a few weeks every year. Love the videos!

[@arose62]

Practicing pogonotrophy and pogonotomy simultaneously!

[@jw3638]

I was hoping the poll would result in the 50/50 stache

[@boshiken4914]

That’s a solid look

[@rickymarumade]

No amount of like deserve that 50/50 mustache

[@mendistan]

What handlebars are you using Luke? So clean with the computer!

[@farnsworthrocketsurgery374]

I have a set of Elite Wheels mountain bike wheels. They worked great for a few months. Yes, months. The ratchet drive ring stripped out of the hub. I contacted customer support and so far all they have done is give me the run-around. Buyer beware!

[@3lfaromeo]

🥖Really pulled through with this one 'ol Lukey boy

[@hucklejoko4838]

Luke I hate that moustache so much please!

[@aidanmasterson50]

Love mine! But I believe they are no longer giving the option for silver hub. Only black.

[@iansingleton]

🥖Hi Luke, first off, I hope that's a baguette Imogene! It's the only one I could find. Secondly, thanks for your content. Question! I've been looking at the Elite wheels, they seem to be quite serious about getting up to European standards, I think the sponsorship with GCN will have done them no harm! Obviously the wheels in your film are still not "cheap", do you have any info on the more budget friendly Elite wheels? I recently contacted them because I wasn't sure that Elite wheels on Ali Express were the same Elite wheels as seen on your channel and GCN. They wrote back really quick saying yes they're the same wheels but they seemed to imply that the Ali Express wheels weren't exactly their latest releases! After seeing your film I'm not sure I want a set of wheels like the first ones you received! Thanks for any help! Regards. Ian. Ps. Keep up the great work 👍

[@falsemcnuggethope]

Could've accomplished the 50/50 also by clearing half from either side. Admittedly, that would've warranted the change in channel name.

[@DigitalDimi]

Noooooo! I subscribed only because of the weird moustache. What I'm supposed to do now 😮😂

[@spdaltid]

'tache should be drive side.....

[@ttrc1736]

I love your mustache.

[@allenjay896]

Whoever is wrong or rigght. I don’t think anyone should be overpricing hubs.

[@nikolegos]

Hey Luke been a fan of the channel for a while now, and I have a request if I may, would you be able to check out the BXT Pro 145 bike frame, cause it looks like a hell of a deal for the price!

[@Vismux69]

Just ordered them :) 👌💪

[@ForeJaapie]

Worth noting that 9velo has released an update to the wheels you showed, the CD 2.0 series. Apparently 1200 grams for a 45mm wheelset.. at a slightly higher cost. Im looking more at the LV45 2.0 which has sapim cx ray spokes, 1300 grams for

[@davidclayton1803]

My moustache was inspired by yours. I can't follow you into 50/50 though.

[@lfd720]

hey Luke, nice halfstache :D give us an update on your chinaplay pedals pls

[@bobareturned]

Any updates on the wheeltop eds tx group set? Any possible discount links?

[@afonic]

I am so waiting for this !!

[@pedroamaral8100]

🥖 I'll be the tie breaker, grow the stache back again! Makes you look like a distinguished gentleman

[@1945CCCP]

The wheels looks solid, but I have a pulsing breaking effect with SwissStop pads. Pulsing was negligible with the original pads, but breaking power was low. Any advises?

[@TraceVelo]

With disc brakes, I would take the pads out, resurface them with some high grit sandpaper, and then bed them in again. If you are talking rim brakes, also sand down the pads slightly to remove any contamination, but you may also need to clean the carbon brake surface on the wheels. For this I use acetone, but be careful, it can easily strip any paint/clearcut from the rim surface.

[@1945CCCP]

@@TraceVelo thank you for a great and fast reply! I will try sandpaper on pads, but first going to check if i have pulsing with the old pads. Some people claim that pads can damage carbon rim surface making its roughness non-uniform ... About acetone on rims... Im scare. How about little sand-papering??

[@TraceVelo]

I would avoid sanding the carbon rim. Acetone won't damage the carbon, and will remove contamination and any old brake compound. You can also try isopropyl alcohol.

[@1945CCCP]

@@TraceVelo on the road now... ;). With shimano R55C4 (instead of swissStop) the break pulsing has gone , so far, so maybe it was not a problem related to rims.

[@aszel]

My first thought was he is taking off half of the mustache but a bit from the right and a bit from the left... that might be a bit tough to explain look 😅

[@archery570]

The Elite are very nice looking. I am debating between the Elite Drive 45(Gravel) and a similar 9Velos wheel. If you had to pick one for quality and durability would it be 9velos? Seem like Elite has extended their warranty to 3 years.

[@DaanHoogland]

Fuck, there are no :Half baguette: emoticons... 🥖/2

[@ADVRaiderKTM]

What happened to the Wheeltop EDX groupset?

[@kubackjeee]

Did u manage to replace the bearings on the freehub?

[@tn9274]

i want to buy to replace superteam but the duty will probably too much in my country and aliexpress also not ship to here anymore.

[@ilgiausias1]

Hi, Maybe not full on topic But has anyone had experience on chinese tires? Mean chinese brand not international ones

[@thomasullmann7447]

"These wheels are cracking" :D

[@Vixen1525]

You are Two Face. In the one moment you are hitting the gravel trails and in the other you are flying on the asphalt with your slick like tires.

[@erasmomartins]

About Crosswinds?

[@jesseschenendorf2896]

How do you feel about those Schwalbe tires? Wet grip okay? Bicycle rolling resistance rates their wet grip as pretty poor…

[@ggoben]

Crazy timing of this video. I've been struggling with the front wheel of my 50D drive set. Bearings started to feel crunchy. I contacted Elite and they sent me new ones. However, I've taken it to 2 different bike shops and even when installing new bearings they start to feel crunchy as soon as they are pressed in. Even if you press them in a bit by hand crunchyness happens immediately. Could the hubs warp or get out of round after time? Luke, I guarantee once you start replacing bearings you'll find out it's very finicky and difficult to get it smooth like a new wheelset. Crunchyness cannot be fixed in my experience. Please let me know if you encounter something similar. Not what I expected from a "high end" China manufacturer. I'm going to plead my case to Elite for a new wheel. I doubt it happens though.

[@robbeelsas]

I've had the exact same problem and subsequently measured the hole diameters to be out of spec. Elitewheels denied everything and just replaced the bearings in their service center

[@kubackjeee]

did u manage to resolve the issue? Did you have the version with silver or black hub?

[@ggoben]

@@kubackjeee they were the black hubs. Never fixed it. I’ve moved on from them. I’m on roval c38’s now. While heavier and shallower they are much more stable and rock solid. I feel so much more comfortable descending. No hint of speed wobble or apprehension at high speeds like I had with the Drive set. Even after having the front wheel trued the balance just felt off on my drive set. Not sure the cause. Easier just to move on.

[@kubackjeee]

@@ggoben that's interesting what u saying. Because you are literally the first person I see that thinks does wheels are unstable or not confidence inspiring. I've already seen people not happy with the bearings, but that is easily fixable.

[@wufler28]

Some Chinese companies don't believe in patents. Wheeltop newest wireless groupset has 4 patents they don't care about. This is also the reason why lots of people think bad about Chinese brands. 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@marcuzzo211]

hey @trace Velo how many miles do you drive yearly ?

[@Emtbtoday]

Are they not ment to have a spoke nipple surround to protect the carbon edges?

[@tonyjmcd]

🥖〰️🥖 loving the half tache and thr dedication to the joke🥖〰️🥖

[@josephpaulodiaz5499]

hope you can review avian gravel wheelset

[@Phantom0309]

8:04 has the hub seen more than 200w? 😂

[@GAMeRAchilles]

You mad man! 50/50 😂

[@cemsonmez6322]

Why your hub is metal color, but the one on the website is now black? Change of hub?