Eye splice in double braid polyester rope

[@RazorSharp369]

My friends pops is an old school splicer for 40yrs. He builds these tables and they have everything you would need built in. Measurements, melter, needle holders , marker holders, and a radio w TV. I grew up watching him at his craft and even though it's a dying trade it's amazing. We live in New Bedford, Mass so plenty of boats and splicing still

[@elciocabralytb]

I can easily explain what you did! What you did was nothing but pure... MAGIC! Great job!

[@jimmorris8879]

I used to splice steel ropes underground as part of my duties as a maintenance fitter. We used to make a loop by splicing into the body and hiding the ends. At the latter end we had to use eyelets and clips as mines regulations had changed. What you basically have is a Chinese finger puzzle. Very neat thanks for showing.

[@richardwayne6365]

Brilliant video - thank you for posting it. I’ve just managed to do my first double braid splice, followed every step and it worked. No way I could have done it without this video.

[@Premiumropes]

Glad it helped!

[@csjmoore]

Of all the demonstrations I have seen this one makes the most sense. Good job! You even use the same set of fids I have. Thanks you for taking the time to show us novices how-to. Having the proper equipment and work area set up ahead of time will make this much easier. I have subscribed.

[@250kent]

First I must commend you for educating people on rope work, still today rope is one of my favorite and most used tools. First introduced to me in the boy scouts, then again as an apprentice Iron Worker. It at least for me was very very hard to grasp the concept, especially if you had to tie it reversed, (around someone else for rescue). We had to learn nots and hitches forward, backward, with one hand, in the dark. I took a small line with me everywhere, practicing at any opportunity. Three years later I knew 300 knots and hitches. Applying the right not and rigging properly is a great challenge and very rewarding. I would like to add to your tutorial on forming an eye if it is ok with you. If a physical attachment is made at the eye it throughs this constricting hitch off and it can not function as designed. Instead make the eye a little smaller and sew in at the other end. The eye will get larger one time when first placed under load, this allows the outer sheath free to constrict with a very high ratio, like chinese finger cuffs. By sewing the front the thread takes much of the stress and restricts the constriction from doing its job. Also the amount of rope incerted can be reduced by over half.

[@DeanLorman]

This fellow knows how to whip a rope.You can reliy on 99.9% of these folks for help 24/7.Take best care.

[@noncompliant4316]

This brings back memories of back splicing (and eye-splicing) three-strand sisal ropes as a scout back in the 1960s. The method is quite different with the newer nylon ropes.

[@Premiumropes]

Hi Bryan, Some ropes are harder than others, e.g. when the cover and cover are stiff. Taping the cover in this one is a good suggestion, we do that all the time. You can also use the D-SPLICER fid in this specific case. That one always works and is complementary to your regular fids.

[@TubeHammel]

I remember learning to splice 45 years ago as a sailor but I don't remember that the rope had a core. It seemed a lot easier than what I see here. This is more like a science. Well done!

[@noahbalmer]

You might have learned to splice single braid, which is much faster and easier.

[@holusion]

Thank you. No audio needed which means the visual was on point for explanation. Great quality visual and beautiful results. Much mahalos!

[@Premiumropes]

Good to hear!

[@LABUSTO]

When I was in the navy on a YTB tug... we use to do this with eight inch lines... Memories. The eye splice never failed, but I did hear some high pitch whining before the lines snapped. It would get to a pitch that you knew it was time to duck. Moving ammo ships in the stockton river's current snapped a few quarter lines.

[@spirlo51]

What a great trick! (For Earl below) The sheaf that goes over the 2 rope joint, holds the ropes together, the harder you pull the tighter the sheaf constricts, making the join even stronger.

[@flapstok1]

Excellent tutorial. I don't do much sailing anymore but years ago I tried this on some old sheets.... Boy did I learn a lesson. Never try on old stuff. Always on new.

[@frogworth1622]

I actually watched this (thx for the upload) and in conjunction with a pamphlet I have now tied this eye splice dozens of times for work and for my own use on boats. Yeah it takes a little practise but once you get it they are a lot of fun to tie and look awesome (plus of course the functionality). You can tie these with a thimble too and they are excellent for anchors, etc. All you need is the correct jacketed rope and the corresponding size Fid (that special rod he is using) is also important. Any sail shop can set you up. I simply use an awl, fid, needle with nylon thread, and very sharp Olfa-style knife (I wrap masking tape around the cut point first it makes an easier cut). I have even tied rings with a very similar method. I suggest gloves are great for when pulling it out because hands can get kind of raw with the nylon rope. As another commenter mentioned, it is good to use a whipping stich needle and nylon thread or it can come apart. Use only top quality rope it's worth every penny!

[@oftenlucid]

I have always shied away from putting an eye-splice in double braided line, but this was so clear. I will give it a go! Thank you soo much!

[@johnmoreland8706]

neat trick..i was a ship fitter..but you bosen mates did learn alot of cool rope tricks..nice..have to look into a few of these

[@Premiumropes]

Hi Redart789, thank you for your positive feedback. Some lines are very rigid and it can take a while to get the core out. (In this video we choose a rope which is very easy to splice). The first step in a rigid line is to make point B less rigid, so move it around for about a minute or so and it will become a lot softer. Then use a fid or a splicing needle to 'open up' the line. Stick the needle in without damaging the rope itself and make some room, then pick out the core. Good luck!

[@JamiesonSmith23]

when I have trouble sleeping I use this video as a sleep aid with hopes that when I awake that I magically can make a Dyneema eye splice. So far nothing but it’s still a fantastic sleep aid. Usually conk out around the 2 min mark! Definitely well done with the splice though. LOL

[@rbritton87]

If I remember correctly, Dyneema is single braid like Amsteel, correct? If so, it's single braid and will splice much, much faster. Don't use a fid for that though, it works best and easiest with a loop turner.

[@DeanLorman]

My bench and every kind of fid is set up to a howser.Go figure I am now retired and living inshore.Kind of sucks but I still have to keep a copy of Payne's Marine if I get too rusty.I do get some snubbers and eye splices,sometimes with a thimble,,,,,whoopie but at least I love it and they always seem to enjoy (and pay) for my blisters.Good stuff being back into it anytime at all.Cheers to all!

[@ddgroutplugs8668]

Thanks so much, works perfect every time. I was even able to splice on a snap hook by sliding it over the outer at 2:30 the pushing the inner through it at 3:30. Hope this helps someone else.

[@ThomasDivingLtd]

Absolutly impressed as I have done standard splicing IE back splice , eye and joining splice including Flemish or Molly Hogan (wire )for years but this is the 1st time I have seen this in detail.for braided. best start learning I guess. THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH. DAVE

[@marvin666777]

THIS IS HOW AN INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO SHOULD BE! ON POINT WITH NO BULLSHIT!

[@ScarryMarian2012]

One of the best eye splice ever,it's self tighten once load is applyed and can resist more in the splice segment than the rope length,under overload,the rope will snap along any sector of the rope BUT NOT THE SPLICE is the segent that will fail under overload,i really don't know why most peoples don't test theyr own theory in all scenarios (also the worse case scenario) to proove themselves that they have right on theyr own point of vision about an aspect they claim like they really know about...this type of splice is one of the strongest possible (including the variables related with) ! One advice,don't cut any scenes,rather play on a faster speed,so the peoples can see also the the more time consuming stuff,get a better video editor to allow you to do that,all the best regards from Romania :-)

[@Premiumropes]

Thank you! People just find it hard to believe how strong a splice is. We've updated our video a while back, you can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3jZiX6ffZaegtk and we think it's a lot clearer

[@zzella]

This video is magic to watch but amazing when you manage to do it .I've done two eye splices now, one on a 1/2" rope & one on a 1/4" rope without a fid. A fid length is 21 times the rope diameter.I used a small knitting needle, pushed it up from 5 to 10 cm beyond B, pushed it into the centre of the inner core, taped it on & pulled it back through.

[@natekimbell6222]

Thanks for that. I was just wondering

[@daveopincarne3718]

Use an aluminum knitting needle. Pull the cap of the back, cut L = 21 x Dia and bevel the back end with a belt sander or file. Cheap and available fids that are also color coated. 1 pair of needles yields two fids or a short (7 x Dia) and long fid

[@joesmith1142]

Jeesh so easy compared to so many other videos ive watched. all the other videos, i couldnt get a good eye splice. took me two tries before i got a good eye watching this video. much thanks for the great video.

[@Premiumropes]

Great to hear!

[@sammydog1959]

been trying to understand this thru illustrations its so much easier when you show it on video .. lovely job

[@tommunyon2874]

One of my first assignments after commissioning was as 1st Lt. on a destroyer. I was always impressed by the marlinspike skills of the boatswain's mates assigned to my division. Unfortunately my ship was decommissioned just a few months into my assignment and I didn't get an opportunity to pick up on these skills.

[@GeorgieFay]

Excellent video, thankyou! So easy to follow and glad there's no overexplaining audio. I also struggled with there not being enough space in my rope but got there with force and blisters in the end! Looking forward to trying again with better rope :)

[@Premiumropes]

Good luck!! :)

[@sanchezrescate]

Excelente muy buen trabajo artesanal, viendo el vídeo me pregunto algo si este tipo de ojo se puede hacer en una cuerda estática para trabajo en alturas? y si se puede hacer cuanto es la resistencia en kilo newtons

[@sevenhornets]

All these years wondering how it was done. It was always magic until now. Now it's just pure sorcery. Lol. Excellent. Thanks for showing how its done..

[@Premiumropes]

An eye splice reduces the working load with 10% on average (a knot with ~50%). On PremiumRopes we have specified all breaking strength per rope. You can certainly put a carabiner in the eye splice.

[@anckher]

замечательная работа! Это самый внятный урок по изготовлению огона ! GREAT JOB!

[@eustacekiriakos141]

Looks easy but you need to practice it several times to perfected. Thank you for sharing that with us. I will use it to change and make new lines for my Boat.

[@aaronnadler8002]

not having any large rope home from work I did this on 550 paracord. It came out nice even though my center core was a 3 twist core I put the fid through half of each 3 strands alternating.

[@stevecraig3004]

Very smooth! Well done, both video and operation.

[@HiPhoto63]

Excellent tutorial! Next job for me would be how to perform this including the thimble within the eye!

[@patrickhayes3099]

wow, this is so much more simple than I imagined. Nearly as easy as twisted rope. Thanks!

[@rogerbaker2068]

Excellent! Perhaps you could follow up, with a _backsplice_ for the other end??

[@seagorilla9704]

Nice video. I've been doing this splice for many years but never thought of tapering the braid ends. That's neat, I'll try it next time. But whipping, siezing or stitching the splice is a mistake because to achieve it's full strength the inner and outer must close up around each other under load within the splice. If they are seized they cannot move the tiny amount needed so that the splice is effectively only as strong as the siezing. With time and loading the splice will work up stronger and stronger. I've done hundreds of these and never had a single failed splice. Still, a nice video - thanks.

[@thedepaulaliveaboardprojec6774]

sea gorilla I was wondering about the whipping and thought it might make it stronger so the core cannot slip back. Interesting to hear that that’s not the case. I wonder why though.

[@mickrantall7311]

Brilliant Video watch it twice and just did 6 splices didn't have a fid so I used an old artists brush broke bristle end off and taped rope to it of the 6 splices only once did the tape let go All done in 1 hour as I said brilliant video thanks

[@atomic432]

I sure want to be able to do this. Very nice. Thanks

[@winearsaurus]

May I ask what is the music you have playing, its excellent. And thanks for the videos, super helpful :D

[@jimmymak8942]

Epic video ...doesn't over complicate things. Well done.

[@SingleDan]

WOW..... I just watched that and it's like amazing, but so simple. Well done!

[@garytree7729]

Going to have to watch this another 20 times I reckon....!!! Clever stuff, always wondered about eye splicing this type of rope, very interesting indeed, thanks for posting this...!!

[@ifoundjim]

Absolutely a beautiful demonstration!!!

[@jrhattenstein]

Oh my gosh that is way easier than I thought. All this time I have been splicing 3 lay rope.

[@redart789]

Great tutorial. I've seen dozens of these films and only this one is simply enough to understand how to do it right! I tried splicing with my ropes with no success. Having trouble with taking out the core at point B... The cover fibers seem to be too rigid, too stiff, they don't let the core out! Please give me some advise...

[@Dellenstedt]

Can you put a carabiner in the eye splice and use the rope as your working line or safety line in rope access? Do you have any figures how much weight can the splice take?

[@johnwinden8511]

Very cool, the magician gave us a peek! It’s always neat to watch a craftsman work.

[@varleymon]

Thank you for the excellent video - makes spicing a breeze!

[@flbasenji]

Fantastic - looks so simple!

[@jasonjoyce4487]

Excellent. Start to finish uncut tutorial- Thankyou. I need to to do this without the thimbles falling out. Let’s hope practice makes perfect..

[@Premiumropes]

That tool is a Selma splicing needle. You can find this on PremiumRopes, search for Selma.

[@GodzillaGoesGaga]

So I'm looking at doing this for a spring-line. Wouldn't it be directional considering one side (the bitter end of the kern) is cinched in by the mantel. I'm curious. As far as knots a re-threaded figure 8 maintains 70-80% strength of the rope.

[@bruzote]

I have no idea why that works. I don't do rope work, but it fascinates me as such an old yet still essential part of many aspects of life.

[@MrShysterme]

It works because the braided rope acts like the kid's toy called a "Chinese finger trap". Basically, as you pull on the line the braid constricts upon whatever is inside it. If you watch again, you will see how that is done at two points. Then friction causes the constricted sections not to slide past each other. All splices and knots work like this (constriction and friction).

[@haydenc1014]

A very clear demonstration. Many Thanks.

[@Premiumropes]

Thank you! We have a new version uploaded: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3jZiX6ffZaegtk Hope you like that one too!

[@derpherpp]

It's looks little bit more complicate that splicing Castnet throw line, which all we had to do is insert the end back into the core without cutting or trimming anything at the end. Can this use as lifeline

[@Mudsuitable]

does this splice work similar to the old "Chinese finger trap" gag where the more force applied the stronger the splice's grip becomes. Wow there is way too many people hurt by the use of the metric system! Its very sad but kudos to you for demonstrating this technique so well the only complaints are about the system of measurement! Great work, I'm going to have to practice this until I get it perfect. Thank You, I just subscribed

[@Premiumropes]

Yes, indeed it becomes stronger the more force applied. By the way...we are based in Europe, that's why the metric system is used...

[@Mudsuitable]

+Premium Ropes Its sad people are afraid of things they don't understand (Metric System) here in USA many schools are no longer teaching cursive writing so I imagine in the next few years it will be treated the same way and it will be no different than writing in a foreign language! I don't understand why the metric system is difficult for people to accept or understand especially its used daily in the states in the automotive field as well as in firearm production and use. SMDH

[@johnking5691]

@@Mudsuitable if we were to switch to all cursive writing and stick shift cars, we could cripple a whole generation.

[@hommie789]

What is the strength of that repair? Looks good when finished but doesn't seem to be as strong as some other braids.

[@Premiumropes]

+hommie789 We used our Cruiser 16 for this demo (www.premiumropes.com/cruiser-16) , a stronger braid is our Cruiser 24 (www.premiumropes.com/cruiser-24). But that one is stiffer and a bit harder to eyesplice

[@philbobaggins8603]

you make this look easy I had a go at it and discovered why you put nice calming music with the video.

[@fordprefect7583]

I watched the video (brilliant - thanks!), bought the fids but I just can't do it :(I am trying to eye splice a Marlow Komodo 13mm climbing rope, but the 16 plait cover is so tight, I can't part the strands enough to get to the core. Are there some ropes that just can't be spliced?

[@Premiumropes]

+Ford Prefect There are indeed ropes that are too hard to splice as they are braided very tightly, or can be only done when you have a lot of experience

[@peteryeung111]

No idea what just happened, but very interesting handy work. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@АлександрСмагин-ф2м]

Как говорится , всё гениальное просто !👍👍👍☀️😛

[@PierceyeG]

Very satisfying to have that bit of life's mystery resolved.

[@frogworth1622]

The first time I tied these I was like "who would ever have ever thought of this was a genius!" Try it you'll be hooked and you'll be tying them for any of your friends with boats :)

[@Khether0001]

when you pull on this loop... if you used the amount of rope shown here Is the tension exerted by the outside layer on the part that has been reinserted *_greater_* than the resistance of the rope itself? *I mean, under stress the rope should break, or the knot slip?* (I assume is the first, and away from the loop actually, am I correct?)

[@rgsparber1]

It took 3 tries using cheap rope from Home Depot that was 3/8" in diameter. The core was fluffy and difficult to keep from bunching up. Threading the core 5 cm past point B was near impossible. Below the base of the loop, it is packed solid. Clearly, it is much easier with the specified rope. Thanks for a very helpful video and a fun challenge.

[@jameslane2501]

That’s really neat and a great method and idea. When I learned how to tie a bow line knot. It replaced the eye ends big time. Thanks for the update and teaching me how to do this. James x-Navy

[@Khether0001]

I believe there is a point where the force required to make this loop slip off is greater than the force required to break the rope, therefore making it unnecessary to feed any more rope back through the case, right? but you would probably need to make a destructive test to figure that out, I suppose. ...excellent video!!

[@jackpast]

Very nice! The music was great, too.

[@ymaylove]

Awesome video! Is this durable? Could life and death depend on it?

[@Premiumropes]

Yes, when done properly, this splice can take more load than a knot.

[@keithbyrne4872]

yaloha doesnt seem trust worthy to me looks like it can be pulled out where it went in

[@Premiumropes]

@yaloha @keithbyrne When done in the right manner, your life (and death) could depend on it. It is true that one can undo the splice when there is no load applied. However if you start pulling on the eye and rope (apply load) then the splice will lock itself and will be stronger than the average knot!

[@Strange-Viking]

This isnt a wet knot though. itll come undone even under load when wet but a simple remedy is to thread around the mend. After that it will never come undone.

[@danisprettygay]

Ignorance creates fear. Loaded splices do not fail. The action of the braids sieze each other as tension increases. I was just stopping in to ask a question. Why isn't the splice in this video to the specs of Yale, Samson, and New England rope companies? A 3/4 fid core through cover is half of what I learned. The lazy tapers weaken it slightly, but not like an inadequate bury.

[@ChadKovac]

What wizardry is this!

[@meo1960]

What is that tool called that you are using to weave through the rope? tks...

[@Laval-59]

Very cool my friend..! I always wondered how all that fine braiding /splicing was done. Got to try that...

[@ПолиграфПолиграфыч-и1и]

делал петли для цирковых качелей на даче просто внахлест суровой ниткой сшивал и два хомута. 20 лет качели служат и взрослые и дети на них качаются ))

[@yalnud]

I am curious, In canada you are not aloud to use a marker on anything nylon as it can deteriorate the rope, webbing, sling etc.. whats your opinion on this, i understand you need to mark the rope somehow, but could it cause a weak spot?

[@Johnny53kgb-nsa]

Very well done video and useful information. Thank you, John

[@ilonashishov5317]

my question is' what weight can it hold? i want to use it for my horse, but if he pulls' will it hold?

[@Premiumropes]

A well done splice reduces the strength of a rope with approximately 5-10%. A knot reduces this with approximately 50%.

[@MarioGarcia-st4ov]

This guy lost me at .05 into the instruc He reaches for some kind of tool that I'm sure most people have laying around among their tools Beside why is he not careful with all those cut marks in every direction?

[@Premiumropes]

Mario the tool used for the splicing and the markings is a SELMA fid. You can order this here www.premiumropes.com/splicing-rope/splicing-tools/selma-splicing-needles

[@ricardoynoeliagarriga8072]

excellent, but what is its resistance .I am arborist would hold my weight

[@middleburgprepper2342]

Beautiful eye. Well done.

[@alfredomadeira4572]

Excelent video. Simple and efficient!

[@jjaanneezz]

I tried with a rope (looks the same like this one on movie) but I was unable to push fid through cover like on movie after 4:30. On movie everything goes so smmothly. I tried several times wih no success. Is a special rope required, with more flexible cover or something else I do not know ?

[@Premiumropes]

For really tight covers we recommend the use of a Soft Fid. www.premiumropes.com/softfid

[@timrinker8233]

You make it look so easy! Great job.

[@darrenbivens7500]

Mitch Conner

[@brianmulloney1887]

what size fid are you using there on what size rope? If I want to splice some 8 mm rope... what size fid do I use? If I want to splice some 11 mm rope... what size fid do I use? It looks like you're basing the fid size on the size of the rope core. Yes?

[@matthewharvey8755]

I was watching bone carving videos...... And now I'm here...... Oddly enough I have always wondered how this was done, so it was a good watch. I have some half inch climbing rope that needs a quick attach like this.

[@Premiumropes]

Also check our updated version of this tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3jZiX6ffZaegtk

[@Siriussegler1]

Schwierig. Gratuliere. Hält dieser Knoten noch bevor das Seil bricht dann ist er perfekt. Danke Ihnen!

[@darrannewman7113]

That is really clever , thank you for showing me the right way to splice braided rope.

[@larryplacido5514]

a very excellent process to explain such a functional & essential loop!

[@badasswood]

awesome! where do we get fids? I want to learn and practice on my junk rope, but in the mean time, is there any professionals I can send my ropes to to get this done? I am getting into using almost all eye, and eye to eye ropes, it is claening up my equipment emensly! thanks for the vid!!!

[@Finke.]

Forgive me if you have already explained this to someone else here but could you explain what you meant by "whipping" , my theory would be a binding of twine or thread to lock it all in...cheers for the vid... excellent presentation & music... no babbling.. haha

[@ChrisJShackleton]

Super, excellent video. Gotta give that a go!

[@ismaelguzmanrivera8408]

Greetings, writes Ismael from Puerto Rico. I really like your video and I want to know the name of the tools you use in the video and where I can buy them. I would appreciate your prompt response. Thank you very much.

[@ttd1503]

Ismael Guzman Rivera , (spicing kit ) can purchase at any rope shops

[@Premiumropes]

Hi Ismael. These are SELMA fids. Available at www.premiumropes.com/selma-splicing-needles

[@samcro69mp]

use to do this at NASSCO for mooring lines

[@jellzey]

I am guessing I missed it but how is the loop prevented from pulling out? I did not see a locking splice. I am sure there is a better term for it.

[@LachimusPrime]

***** Your vid is super cool! Do you have an idea of the max force/weight this splice can take? You said that the loop locks itself, is that much the same way as a half-hitch locks itself? Also did you mean that a knot could reduce rope strength by up to %50? Whereas a splice will reduce rope strength by only approx %10? Cheers, Lachie :)

[@mifindibu2214]

Lachlan Stewart

[@GodBoredWas]

Yep, thats a win, right there. Awesome!

[@AntDiesel54]

Hello, I was wondering if you could do a video on a hollow braid splice video, such a T-Rex by Tuefelberger for example. It's big in the arborist scene right now and would really help a lot of people out. Thank you

[@Premiumropes]

Hi Mark Here is the video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZm9qpSrfLCZo8U. Make sure to add a lock stitch after you made the splice.

[@earlgrey2130]

Uhm.. i may have overlooked something.. but there was no glue, no stitching.. nothing? Is that really going to hold strong?

[@Premiumropes]

yes it is! When applying force on the eye, the rope clamps itself tight and holds strongly.

[@Sarge92]

whats the typical application of this like im assuming this is not something youd use if safety was involves so is this more for trying down loads on pickups or maybe mooring small boats

[@Premiumropes]

Even arborist and climbers use these techniques

[@Sarge92]

hmm fair enough then wouldnt be my cup of tea but still a interesting video none the less!

[@Aholeintheozone]

It is stronger than a knot so how else are you going to attach something to a rope? The only options are knot or eye splice to hardware.

[@damienmurphy1838]

Great easy to follow instructions,thanks for sharing.

[@СергейМихайлов-з6к]

очень круто,но я чуть умом не тронулся от этой запутки)

[@Premiumropes]

Это не намерение!

[@taterman320241]

да это очень круто но too much work.

[@Premiumropes]

Это определенно круто, и все быстрее и быстрее. Конечно, мы с радостью склеим вашу веревку для вас! www.premiumropes.com

[@rbrown2925]

Very interesting and nicely demo'ed. One suggestion: it would be much easier to follow/replicate if the camera had been rotated 180 degrees for a first person perspective.

[@Premiumropes]

You're absolutely right. That's why we made an improved version a while ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3jZiX6ffZaegtk

[@LachimusPrime]

Hello again, Premiumropes! Another question for you. Do you know why a knot will reduce the strength of a rope? Are there stronger sheer forces applied to rope within the knot structure? Cheers, Lachie