PREPARE NOW: BIG Tank M+ Meta Change Coming?

[@indeliblemakes5359]

Personally, I want a visual for BLOOD SHIELD for DKS,

[@blvck86]

This is an awesome idea.

[@deniedbarbecue2198]

Great idea

[@markusklettke4841]

Maybe something like swirling orbs of blood around you or above you dripping blood onto you?

[@indeliblemakes5359]

@@markusklettke4841 I would be fine with even a RED version of a pally bubble or something like mages Iceward.

[@Starburstjuicy]

If they did this and it was streams of blood that encases around the dk I think would be sick af plus make it easy for you and others to see it’s uptime outside another WA

[@Frothmeister]

I hope blizzard keeps ignoring prot warrior, we're fine, leave us alone

[@nofoxgiven6561]

Won’t say no to buffs but otherwise yes, leave my spec alone blizz.

[@Keltik]

What the hell is a prot warrior? (BRO SHUT UP THEY'LL NOTICE YOU)

[@Mrree250]

I remember gearing for prot in season 1 dragon flight just for blizz to nerf it into garbage all because of pvp whiners. All that effort and time for that bullshit.

[@grimmjowthepantera]

it's ever the same for Prot at the start he is absolute Busted for S1... and after it, he will be nerfed to shit for the rest of the addon. XD

[@fattymatty9319]

I really appreciate how much and often you post links in the description. I wish more people cited their sources like this.

[@Shamrockin]

wow i went to wowhead on my own to find these notes because I'm so used to wowtubers not posting anyyyy sources

[@Raskel8274]

I main mistweaver, the changes look very interesting for healing. Excited to see how it plays out on PTR.

[@Shinekage]

No one is ever going to pick the cooldown reduction for reapers mark because it removes an exterminate charge. Its not even close to being worth losing that charge for the cdr.

[@dojyr3130]

why did they do this :(

[@ILovePie53]

@@dojyr3130 because they dont care anymore

[@towelie5997]

Don't say no one, not everyone minmaxes for the highest keys possible. I can easily imagine a lowet CD being worth the dip for more fun. I'm the kind of player who ends Skyrim with a thousand health potion so i also tend to hold on to big CDs for too long as to not waste them. I get the appeal and not everything has to be competitive

[@rstarrkk]

Thank you for commenting on what these changes actually mean. Most creators just read the notes and close curtain. I had the same hunch that this was just the beginning too, they're really pushing to make the game enjoyable for any class this expansion and these constant changes show that.

[@NemXX2]

Consecrated ground was not removed. It was moved to the class tree. Don't get too excited. Templar still has mechanical problems. The buff to wog is good and the judgement cd reduction is actually the same because seal of alacrity got removed and it's actually a nerf with 4% haste removed (it wasn't on the patch notes so may be a bug. SoR talent is duplicated atm). But without it, there will be no lower CD on judgement and higher HP generation. It might also help to get the talent that increases the armor of SoR with the new pathing. Can take Divine purpose and divine resonance at the same time now too. I just think it will bring it more in line with the others. Probably still not enough to get out of the bottom spot of the meta. This is definitely not over as the SoR talent is duplicated atm and i expect changes to templar. Btw i have not tested, but based on description Sentinel should work the same as before. But, this will not shake any meta as it stands.

[@SinCityVillain]

Quazii, I'm only 7 mins in to your video and I'm struck by something you said a month or 2 ago about the tanks. You explained why you don't do Tier lists and why it's so important to play what class/spec you enjoy since changes happen and what's meta today could be forgotten tomorrow. Personally, I'm strictly casual and I like all the tanks for various reasons. I'm no M+ superstar or Mythic Raider but I've always followed the advice you have given for years: Play what's fun, don't chase Meta. Thank you as always for being so helpful and informative!

[@andybanan1992]

There is also the fact that 99% of players arent good enough to make a noticable difference between a meta class and a non meta class,

[@MT-so2mk]

Especially as a tank, fuck the meta. You have all the power to find a healer you vibe with to form a team if you want and even if not, tanks are always in demand, no matter the class.

[@johnmassey2632]

I always played non meta Brewmaster because it was fun and also out of spite and I hate myself

[@darkrider9977]

I am really glad to hear prot pally changes, thank you for the latest news Quazii 💕

[@zetrovv]

So happy with the Paladin changes, especially cause their buffing their blessings. That’s really what makes Paladin stands out is their utility.. being able to help my allies survive after making a misplay feels so good

[@Daemos66]

Lay on Hands might be a new huge defensive. With all the cdr talents in the class and prot tree, im thinking you can get the cd down to 3m, and under 2.5 as we scale. With that, you get close to 75% phys dr for 30s, which might be the strongest tank cd in the game. Really depends how much you have to give up with those 3-4 points. On the downside, it seems like they're killing sentinel, because there's never a scenario where you'd pass up on that much damage, even super high keys, since you'll probably miss the timer with that low of tank damage anyway.

[@grahamyodude]

I am a new player who just started playing less than 2 months ago and I have fallen in love with playing a Protection Paladin. These changes to Protection Paladin are cool and seem to help me in a lot of areas I have been struggling in. Also thanks to this video I just found out about mouseover casting! I am very excited for it all. Great video!

[@rageragerage]

SG represent! great summary!

[@mrj5202]

Prot Pally Main. I knew they would rework!! I held out 🎉🎉🎉

[@vegaobscurax23]

I so hope that these changes help Prot Paladin. I love paladins and want to tank, but it’s rough out here currently..

[@steveluna4979]

quazziii i love you

[@jonschy94]

Offtopic question regarding profressions, as I cant find answers anywhere. 1. How are chars with 2 collecting profressions supposed to find artisans acuity, is getting 10 from the weekly capped knowledge loot the only way and do we not get a weekly for it anymore as we need it for blue profession gear and buying knowledge? 2. I maxed profression gear tree on my leatherer but crafted myself the profession chest piece before that. Using best possible materials a new craft would come out as t4, t5 if I use concentration, while a recraft only allows to reach t3 and t4 if I use concentration. That doesnt make much sense to me. any advice?

[@nofoxgiven6561]

Getting 5 per knowledge point received and including weeklies and the treatise you can craft you get 11 KP per profession weekly I think. So blue tools will take a couple of weeks per tool unfortunately.

[@dennissmith6096]

With the talents I’d like to see it were you can put those last ten points maybe in hero talents but maybe also just go full paladin. May 7 points in a hero but have 3 for left for regular paladin.

[@Tenezill]

If they want sanlayn to be competitive they have to revert the bullshit death strike change.

[@minoxiis3419]

I think we should get a special weapon enchantment @ 3k or 3.5k. As well as a custom transmog. I think that’s reasonable

[@senfglas214]

Dont you think a shitty title is enough? /s

[@kennethvankley7089]

Prot Paladin has the most buttons and abilities of any of the tanks I play... I love the abilities, but damn...

[@nofoxgiven6561]

Love my prot warrior, prot paladin seems good too but I hear the tuning isn’t great.

[@ibrahimelmhadri6576]

I would like some Demon form customisation

[@fs569]

I love that Blizz shakes up the meta. I agree with what they do. They did a fantastic job in S1 of DF where basically any spec was viable up to maybe 1 key level less than the pros. However... what they did in S2... and their complete lack of tuning in S3 and S4 of DF... I am concerned that they will do the same thing. Where the only "fun" season was S1 and the rest is just back to Meta Slaving...

[@matthewfraley4427]

It's like that because of stat scaling. Some classes get exponentially stronger with a single increased stat, others don't. Like disc priest being extremely reliant on haste and vers both, so it's going to be bottom tier early xpac, and probably mid to top tier end of xpac. But prot warrior has a 100% block chance ability, and the most amount of armor and uptime on active mitigation, so they are pretty strong defensively through the entire xpac, but things start to catch up to it later on and warrior damage can't keep up so they fall off mid to late xpac generally. I dont think blizz actively wants to shake up a meta, but rather bring things in line with one another. However, Blizzard can't stop this issue from coming up because they won't change their design philosophy.

[@nofoxgiven6561]

Looking at the % of title holders you can see the rise and stay of demon hunter from seasons 2-4 of dragonflight. There will always be a meta but I recall one of those seasons being like 85% of the key holding tanks were DH.

[@fs569]

@@matthewfraley4427 I totally get you. But im still worried. If its known that classes have scaling issues, then that is what tuning is for. That is why some classes get buffed/nerfed before, during and after every season. And they were very active with this in S1 of DF. And as a consequence, you had a very active meta. But since then they sort of stopped doing it. And you got exodia practically every season after that.

[@flightsimfan89]

THANKS FOR THE BIG BREWMASTER BUFFS

[@Liftheavy85]

I'm not really a m+ player but them keeping up with class changes is always a good thing because some classes are pretty boring talent wise

[@derpataur1162]

Thistle Tea auto proccing at 50 energy is a really bad change IMO. You're basically losing some control over it and you're gonna get punished for using your energy when you want to save Thistle Tea charges for like a boss or something. I'm not a fan of this change. I do appreciate the sentiment of reducing button bloat.. and I could see how some see it as incentive to train yourself to pool your energy... but I think it's going to be kind of annoying to HAVE to play around it or risk running out of energy when you really need it + not have the mastery buff when you really want it for kingsbane/vendetta... instead of just having it as a tool in your back pocket. I do like the Cut to the Chase talent change though -- this is something we've wanted for a long long time. The change to Ravage is nice, but they didn't address any real issues with the spec. It does good damage, and bigger Ravage Window is a great thing... but I don't think forcing players to slow down their rotation is really all that enjoyable right now, nor does it feel rewarding. It kinda feels like they just don't want Feral to be fun right now.. and when you play it in a way that is fun -- you just run outta energy and don't have any good ways to get it back. The changes to Fel-Scarred probably needed to happen. Vengeance tanks were doing 2-3 million DPS with Demon Surge because it's uncapped AOE damage. This is prolly gonna negatively affect Havoc, but honestly I've been having so much fun with Havoc the last few days that I don't think the nerf is gonna change that. Havoc is just really really fun to play, I'm usually having a blast with it even when I'm not doing the most damage and I think that's a huge indicator that it's in a fantastic spot. I'm kinda surprised they reworked Paladin again already. I really hope they give Feral another look too. Boomkin getting all those changes is interesting, right now they seem REALLY overtuned from what I've seen in dungeons. Hopefully they end up in a good place/fun to play. The Enhance changes sound REALLY cool though. I'm super excited about all the Doom Winds changes / Visual / Audio ques. I love that they're doing that so much. I think a lot of classes need this on some of their abilities. Personally I don't really appreciate the mentality of "Shaking up the Meta" -- I'd hope the goal is to not have a meta. Shaking up the Meta suggests they're artificially creating disparity in which specs are good in order to manipulate the playerbase. That implies to me that if you're not FotM, then Blizzard intentionally sabotaged your spec. I'm gonna hold judgement and let them cook though. The 20th anniversary patch is gonna be pretty epic, and I think they've earned some slack / time to cook if this is the kinda thing they're doing with their time behind the scenes.

[@JustinAllen-pr4oq]

That change affecting havoc will take them out of mythic+ for the most part. Specially when aoe is the only thing they actually good at in regards to vengeance. On the havoc side that is a huge cut in damage. Melee is already not in a great spot for m+ due to certain mechanics being so much better as ranged. Fixates and such. Make there damage normal and it kinda defeats the purpose of having them.

[@scs-yt]

What is a sun lion?

[@senfglas214]

The bljad deaf night he row talends he meened.

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

the dark ranger talents are nice

[@Srelathon]

As nice as the Paladin class changes are, it really just keeps the exact same problems but presents them in a slightly different way. Many of the nodes that would be nice are still impossible to get to, Protection's survivability is still going to be trash, etc. I really hope they announce more changes before it launches.

[@aidonblack3390]

All they had to do whit Sanlayn is make your pet summon on your burst (Vampiric Blood) Rather than rng proc.

[@danielsun9124]

The thing is they don't have to announce any of the class tuning and changes at least until one month into the TWW season 1, the timing is so weird

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

Not really. From what I'm seeing the changes aren't game changing. Prot paladin basically gets more utlility (oh wow....) It's still gonna be squishy. And the rest are roughly around the same as well. Nothing is too big imo.

[@youseffyrry]

hello boss, is there anyway to hide my teammates abilities while raiding or doiing dungeons, because i cant see anything from their spells

[@FoolyLiving]

Really disappointed in the dps of a balance druid, especially after playing a ret pally and havok dh - theres no competition at all! Terrible survivability on a boomkin, too. When doing quests and coming across a normal rare, I usually need someone else around to help, so I sit and wait for someone to show up and start attacking it lol. Pretty surprising really. I think I will just use that char for gathering herbs unfortunately.

[@havtor007]

Go guardian if it is a problem. Instead of waiting

[@Javier-il1xi]

Paladin is looking real fun with these changes

[@senfglas214]

Bro why would you put that dude as your profile pic 😪

[@alaswell2042]

How does it feel to play BDK for you? I feel like it's so boring with the low haste values and thinking of not getting better as haste is not a good stat anymore feels really bad. Also I would like to play San'layn, but picking that tree feels like I am just hurting myself compared to deathbringer. After like 8-10 seasons of maining it I am thinking of changing the main / swapping to dps as the other classes seem to be so much more fun (mountain thane warrior, templar paladin or vengeance). Nice video btw! ;)

[@markf8320]

I honestly feel kind of in the same place. I love frost DK it's been my favorite dps spec since WOTLK but I'm getting kind of bored of BDK. I keep looking at other tanks trying to find a dps/tank combo I can main.

[@thunder9236]

Sanlayn needs a fat buff. Deathbringer BDK is so much fun, needs more DMG reduction but it's fun. Druid of the claw guardian druid is my favorite.

[@FumaPerros]

Idk if im the only one but i felt that the DH V has the cooldowns so much higher than in DF

[@AlwaysJipped]

The freedom for 3 seconds on steed use is a choice node with normal freedom. Feel like it's unlikely we'll take it.

[@MenudoMC]

"is there any templar tunning coming up" today we bid our farewell to wack-a-mole Templar

[@JoSh25Sin]

Now thats a dark ranger 👌

[@dirtygerd9083]

When do these changes go live?

[@markherbert4723]

I was gobsmacked by my prot pally dmg. In crappy gear I was hitting 900k in heroics

[@OG_Deadpool]

thristle tea triggers automatically below 50 energy for the rogue. love that.

[@BigA7878]

It's 50 energy, not %

[@OG_Deadpool]

@@BigA7878 you are right, MB. 🙌

[@joeym3147]

Kinda lame though isn't it? You can't even time thistle tea with CDs you'd have to play around that fact now it's harder to use then it was before

[@OG_Deadpool]

@@joeym3147 it will probably just Change the rota a little, but without the cast time in mind it will be smoother to play I guess. Guess we have to test it first.

[@derpataur1162]

I think it's actually kinda bad. It basically removes some of your agency over when the charges are used / forces you to play around the knowledge that if you drop under 50 energy on trash you're gonna lose a charge of Thistle Tea for a boss window. It kinda removes some of your ability to fly close to the sun with your energy for fear of losing a charge of Thistle Tea. I could see how the devs would think that was engaging gameplay.. but I'm not a fan of the change personally. I think it's gonna reward bad behavior for players who aren't using it for the mastery buff without really making it clear they're being punished. You really don't want it to ever go off on it's own unless you're intentionally hovering around 50 energy during your burst window to trigger it -- which seems harder to control intentionally. It could be good incentive for some new players to train themselves to stay over an energy threshhold though, so that your DoTs can deal extra damage from the talent that eats your energy for extra dam on DoT ticks... It makes you think a bit which I guess is good. I wanna like it, but I also don't like anything that has the potential to take my agency away. I like the idea of reduced button bloat. Guess we'll have to see how it plays out over time. Maybe they're on to something? The Cut to the Chase change is amazing though.

[@mrr0cksor669]

It is called carrot on a stick.

[@kaan233]

Did they nerf or buff blood dk

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

Protection warrior just no where on the map LMAOO. I love it.

[@Nevwermore]

They are changing deathbringer that works great, but sanlayn that is pain to play and kinda sucks they havent touched...

[@Rockforce80]

That's why I picked the meta gaming play of demon hunter. 2 changes in beta, 2 changes in 11.0.5. The class is clearly perfect, no notes.

[@senfglas214]

They balanced VDH really good in season 3, except some minor things like the throw glaive talent before soul bomb being useless as well as soul barrier and soul extraction. And yeah, obv. double sigils should only count for flame and misery. I hated the double sigil because I know it would get the spec nerfed to the ground (only took 1 year to fix lol). Sigil of silence is so shit now.

[@michaelyun2407]

Prof pally was over nerf in per patch to current. I can easily tank half the room on my Druid no issues while my pally is having to use very CD and could barely survive

[@bradamour827]

How are Bear tanks looking after these changes? Hopefully not too gimp

[@driiifter]

They want Rogues weaving in and out of stealth, but they make it very difficult to do so.

[@Tenezill]

You can play sub rogue

[@please-wake-up-now]

This patch could shake things up quite a bit! 😮 I wonder how it will affect the group dynamics in M+. I'm all in for trying out the new builds! Just hope the Prot Paladin stays fun to play. +1 for the links as well, super handy! 🔗✨

[@_22445]

San layn not sun lion not son Lyon it’s san like sand and layn like lane San-lane

[@Cimegs5088]

Paladin class tree is bigger than Amidrassil soon LOL

[@b.radical]

If it wasn't for my Blood DK, i would have never finished the storyline, all my other toons, just die.

[@Bluefooted23]

Maybe I'm crazy, but the prot pally changes seem like an extreme nerf. They basically removed all the best talents at the end of the class tree, (seal of order), and replaced them with almost useless and/or niche options. I don't play prot pally, so i don't think this is my bias talking, but it really seems like the spec has been totally gutted here. And it was already hurting.

[@alexdenton5228]

prot wars staying incredibly still hoping bliz dont see them and decide to touch them

[@jessejames9674]

Meta change talks and the season hasn't even started. Got to love it

[@nofoxgiven6561]

“We don’t shape the meta, we just release tier lists and help shape the playerbase perception of a class/spec” - the 1%. Can’t wait until prot warrior falls off and then I get declined from keys I’ve timed higher of cause a tank tier list says it’s “the worst”

[@mackdyegames3035]

You have to wait 2 months for these changes.

[@slambitzeslam1744]

no druid changes?

[@hebediahgoldbach3031]

Off-Topic:There was this video with camera hacks and command console for sharper graphics,could someone link it for me?Lost the config after re-install

[@alexbronx24]

Babe wake up Quazii just posted

[@Nahnono]

Brewmaster desperately needs some love. It's been so many years now.

[@kikoredog]

problem is, this isn't for like 2 months so we have to play with dogshite until then

[@nofoxgiven6561]

Yeah did have a laugh at like”oh this will shake up the meta!” Yeah in two months. People will be well geared by then.

[@Paul-j2t]

They need to fix the tank tps tired of getting hammered because tanks can't hold aggro when I burst

[@cieljek]

Completely reworking frost hero talent leaving unholy alone.... Someone at Blizzard HATES frost and doesnt want anyone playing it. That's why they didn't make any changes to the other blood hero talent.. it wouldnt effect frost.

[@myv112]

Give hunters and DHs new visuals

[@minghaoliang4311]

Guardian: all balanced

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

Guardian is hilarious. It's the most simplistic tank in the game whilst all being very tanky. You run in put up some moon fires thrash spam iron fur and use your main eloon cooldown. It's so simple and so easy that it's almost

[@tonyyin8524]

What do the changes mean for those of us that just want to do low to mid-level M+ with PUGs? There's a segment of us that just want to have fun and don't care about high-end Mythics.

[@JL-dt1si]

These changes doesn’t impact low to mid level m+. You can play whatever you want

[@SuperJetco]

Any class and spec is more than capable of pushing any key, at any level, at top level, things like group composition or what's broken dictate more what's viable and whatnot, one of the best tanks I know has always played what he's found fun, and most of the time that's a tank that isn't in the top 4 of most people's "tier lists" ... pugging will always be pugging, sub par casual players wanting broken meta groups to guarantee their key

[@tonyyin8524]

@@SuperJetco - well... most of the PUGs I've done could do low and mid-level M+ but once you get above 6 or 7, it's not unusual to fail keys on time even if the group stays together and finish the run.

[@Tijuanabill]

Ret pallys: "Any buffs for our damage?" Devs: "Back in your hole! You had your xpac, now shut up for 10 years."

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

They don't need any buffs. They're topping charts right now. They're just fine.

[@Diactia]

I'm playing ret rn in pvp and topping charts. They do insane damage

[@nymphia21]

what do you mean man? they got shield of the righteous buff most important ability for ret.

[@yaintwrong]

@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk This is incorrect

[@shaunmcminn70]

@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk steady 1,3mdps ret ftw

[@RCmetal11]

they did say the event would last around 2 months, so im thinking maybe the patch goes live mid October, which would put the actual 20th anniversary in the dead center of the 2 month event cycle.

[@Pandapold]

Just to mention it, you can play every class in every spec its just about Mythic Raiding and Mythic+ Highest keys. every other thing is easy achiveable. The only prolbem people are to stupid to understand and dont take you in the group. The other thing is keeping a meta fresh without even have any makes no sense yet

[@daethmer7834]

So blizzard instead of buffing the vampire hero tree, they just nerfed the deathbringer

[@dustson]

this sounds more like retri meta and not prot pallyi meta.

[@yarnf]

sighs in brewmaster

[@madelyn576]

did some paladin hack blizz and make these changes lol

[@Raddo94]

No you don’t have to „PRAPARE NOW” 😡

[@GamerX240]

If I continue to run out of mana as a prot pally then I'll continue to not play it no matter what other changes are made.

[@JM-sp2iu]

This is honestly kinda annoying. They should of had these classes mostly set for an expansion launch when we are trying to decide what we want to play....I guess I'll give the small Indy company a break.....

[@runiih]

Idk .. I still don't see how VDH will not be the meta tank. Casters are too good as always so no point of playing anything else that is not VDH if you are trying to be optimal.

[@goobyplease]

druid panda when :V

[@onkek]

Hot take (surely), but RWF should not have any impact whatsoever on any changes that blizzard wants to make. If they do something that cripples the absolute degenerate who leveled 27 variations of 1 class to get 1% more damage due to RNG gearing then tooooo fucking bad.

[@Xynth25]

The only thning specifically for the RWF guilds are the last bosses of the raid...otherwise there are hundreds of guilds going into Mythic and thousands going into Heroic day 1 that same tuning affects.

[@rstarrkk]

Not tank related, but I'd really appreciate them reworking lone wolf on Hunter so that we can take a pet and give the group lust and not feel like we're missing out on personal damage.

[@Ryquard1]

Wasnt lone wolf reduced from 10% to 5% damage increase to reduce the gap between using a pet or not?

[@mindflayer]

@@Ryquard1 Yup, that is exactly what they did.

[@havtor007]

​@Ryquard1 Tge way it works is that it is a stacking buff after you lose your pet. At 10% it took 45seconds to get it

[@ic3t3ap3ach]

why is blizzard so incompetent to fix druid class tree. 😢 and give us moonkin form back.

[@bagelSC07]

Resto druid needs 1. flourish moving back to the verdant infusion choice node and prosperity to the photosynthesis choice node. 2.archdruid need to have rng removed while its spread rejuv not gain talent bonuses as balance 3. Windstalker resto needs a cat castable swift mend trigger instead of regrowth for resto. This would create a prepull setup so cats can manage uptime, setup mini ramps via reforestation convoke while keeping the undergrowth cleave setup we have been using.

[@albertcaballero2772]

Bliz is buffing paladin because our emo prince is coming out of his shell lol

[@fastydave]

This proves the game wasn't ready and this expansion was shoved out the door asap. All this crap should have been in 11.0

[@WoWUndad]

Welcome to wow where we play a beta to reroll to op meta class every 2 weeks $$$

[@senfglas214]

Wish you were trolling…

[@darkgamingwow]

Sun lion hahahahahahah ❤️

[@lasselapinkangas6720]

Yeah, but we still play what is fun so who cares? :D

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

Seems to me actually prot paladin won't really change. All i'm really seeing is a ton of utility. NO avengers shield generation hjoly power? No extra holy power generation? NO extended shield of the Rietous during? still 3 seconds costing 3 holy power with a low cap? While prot warrior has shield block up for 26 seconds?

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

Seems it'll be the same squishy tank. Eh.

[@SirSnoozebutton]

Yeah I was thinking the same. Not saying these aren't good changes, but it doesn't solve the worst problem Prot Paladin has (imo), which is very poor holy power generation until you get 40%+ haste. This again makes it feel very spammy/stressfull because you feel like every GCD spent not generating holy power, is gonna get you killed in a few seconds. All they have to do is increase the baseline SotR duration by 1,5-2 seconds and maybe put HP generation back to Avenger's Shield.

[@TonyPlesha]

wheres bear

[@jeroenhartog1222]

SUN - LION 😂

[@ryangardner7709]

Brew?

[@Doc_BBQ]

"Even your pet hamster or goldfish probably knows this" LOL.. Remember though, that goldfish only have a 10 second memory.. Be a goldfish!

[@lordoflams]

They had all the time in beta to figure this out and yet they are faiting for midpatch

[@tiagopassarela]

forget the meta, play what you want.

[@draegin2566]

I just really hope it doesn’t end up like Dragonflight where Prot Warrior is strong at first but then Prot Paladin ends up doing everything a Prot Warrior can do, plus utility.

[@blainetrain2299]

No druid... Sniff

[@semikolondev]

With the nerf of interrupt for the NPC. Paladin will be the go to for interrupt. There's so many interrupt to do add to that using the CC to control the affix :/

[@Batlafication]

Maybe i should gear my paladin, just in case

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

From everything he just read, doesn't seem like it'll be changing much at all. Mostly utility. A tiny more damage. But over all you're gonna be squishy as you are now. Holy power still slow to generate. Still gotta spend 3 on a 3 second shield of the righteous. And it still has alike a 16 or 14 second cap. WHile prob warrior can go pas 26 seconds, and charge in and get 18 seconds with cooldowns in an instant. Avengers shield still doesn't generate holy power. Still got the same concecration issues. I don't see any changes that people actually want or need. Just them moving some things around, getting rid of some things and replacing it with more utility. If it does get better it'll be by using lay on hands in a very weird way, and when that's down just kinda trying to survive.

[@Batlafication]

@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk yeah, bit did you see the updated judgement set??