Body Armor Basics / Recommendations

[@colbydixon5136]

He just casually slipped a picture of garand daddy in there😂

[@PoorMansArsenal]

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed lol

[@TacticalAlphaCharlie]

Colby Dixon I know right😂

[@nicklucas7552]

@@TacticalAlphaCharlie that exact vid is what youtube put up next for me

[@ch1tbag442]

Nick Lucas same here lol

[@derpartyrapper]

Nah its flanell daddy

[@cndmarksmen7383]

On top of the added weight you mentioned, I'd also add that it severely increases body temp, I used to wear 3A level, as a security guard up here in Canada, easily added 15-20°c to whatever the temperature was.

[@MrEye4get]

I'd rather be hot than dead.

[@Jake-yv9cr]

Video Idea: Identifying and Treating Heat Stroke/Exhaustion

[@jameson1239]

Some signs of heat stroke are high body temperature, altered mental state, alteration in sweating, nausea, vomiting , rapid heart rate and rapid breathing treatment is pretty easy get them out of the sun get them drinking water and slowly cool them off

[@Jake-yv9cr]

@@jameson1239 tnaks!

[@tangoindiamike9189]

@@jameson1239 Your recommended treatment for heat stroke is inadequate. What you described is the treatment for heat stress, which is the stage before heat stroke. Heat stroke is far more serious and deadly, and requires a more professional level of medical intervention. Heat stress will have profuse sweating, nausea, and possible disorientation, whereas heat stroke will have no sweating and clammy skin. The body has passed the ability to cool it's self down on it's own and starts to shut down. Heat stroke victims will likely need to be placed on or packed in ice an require more advanced medical intervention. I'm not a medical professional and it's been a long time since my military training regarding heat stress and heat stroke, but these are some key points I think I remember from my training over 20 years ago.

[@jameson1239]

Tango India Mike yeah your right last weekend I did my wilderness first aid course your correct heat stress and heat stroke are different although most people use the terms interchangeably so I assumed he meant heat stress

[@bigprojects2560]

I'm a certified hazwoper and we use class A suits which presents a decent risk of overheating and what they taught us about treating heat stroke is to drag them out suit and all without decontamination because they won't be able to do it themselves usually, as someone already said, it's just the body giving up. Then get them to the hospital asap. They also taught us the best thing you can do is learn the signs of heat stress and prevent it from going further.

[@davidjensen2411]

I put a plate carrier on, & couldn't believe how little coverage there was! Take a look at Autopsy Report Diagrams - most GSW's are in the periphery... Side plates are a must.

[@monmky]

think of it this way, most gsws are in the periphery because the plates stopped the ones more in the center

[@mark347347]

Well, for us in the military, the soft armour that wraps around is really warm. Especially so if we're going into swamps or whatever warm environments. Besides, most opfor use rifles so it doesn't make difference to us. Running to cover faster is better than really clunky armour. Idk, just personal preference

[@visamedic]

Don’t turn and run. 🤓

[@stephenkong8786]

@@visamedic Don't sit in the open and expose yourself to unnecessary fire either

[@KoishiVibin]

@@mark347347 Also, at the angles you HOPEFULLY will be engaging at, 7.62AK MSC, THEORETICALLY, should stop at those angles and ranges on milspec. It's happened before, but...

[@CityPrepping]

Great video...very informative. Thanks!

[@jaynorman7557]

I was going to say those very words

[@You-wp4ic]

Second

[@gruntgearreview6490]

On plate carriers- You can get level 4 plates that are made to go in the sides of certain plate carriers. While there is still a gap in coverage between the front/back and side plates, that option does exist. If your plate carrier does not have slots for side plates, you can get molle mounted side plate carriers. I've also seen plate carriers with soft armor sides so theres another option

[@fever4174]

Fun fact: bomb suits can’t even stop a 9mm. They are designed to stop slow moving shrapnel and mitigate pressure.

[@ReckerFidelWOLF]

Not true, the main torso chest piece can stop up to a .50 from a S&W500 Magnum, for a bomb suit to do its job it has to stop projectiles that are just as fast or faster than military grade cartridges. Or else the idea behind a bomb suit would be useless..

[@sadiqshehu4524]

What is shrapnel but a collection of high-velocity, low-caliber bullets? If the bomb suit cant stop pistol cartridges then how does the shrapnel not blow through the armor like feathers?

[@thebeastgamer600]

Erusean Lt. Colonel watch the demo ranch video

[@m-h1217]

It varies greatly from suit to suit. Some stop almost everything, some stop nothing.

[@LeonUK]

Probably thanks to COD

[@WuLe993]

Love the video. Most people just recommend a plate carrier since that is what "cool" guys are wearing, so it has to be the best for everyone, and not thinking about specific needs.

[@grassy3777]

The garand thumb picture though

[@harley45acp]

I have been retired for 20 years, and was looking for the current gear my brothers and sisters are using on the street. Thank You, I feel updated now!!! Stay safe out there!

[@Blackwolffe097]

I do security contract work that requires me to wear body armor I use & love Safeline Defense tactical carrier level IIIA. I have been wearing them for years.

[@Blackwolffe097]

I have to wear the vest for 18 hours 5 days a week. Now I do cheat a bit & take it off when I'm in the security room.

[@talscorner3696]

I feel you, friend. I'm beginning to wear now medieval full contact armor for competitions: even if it's titanium, custom fit and all that (so, orders of magnitude better than bulk-made LARP stuff), at the end of the day my back and shoulders just scream in pain and agony xD

[@Blackwolffe097]

@@talscorner3696 women talk about how men will never know the joy of taking a bra off at the end of the day Clearly they have never rocked a plate carrier for a whole 18 hours.

[@SScozzari]

ColoradoPhantom67 😂😂

[@talscorner3696]

​@@Blackwolffe097 I luckily never had to do 18 hours (I think my maximum was 9, with some fighting in between), but fuck if I was happy when I took that thing off... Also I just noticed your profile pic, that's taste ;)

[@pendelbembel]

Dat EOD suit was hilarious

[@timvosnick7357]

Wearing it sucks too

[@oomerimunni]

Daddy Garand Thumb picture @ 02:30 😍

[@muebleoalgo]

Oh no... he asked for it. Show or talk about daddy, and his shitty followers will corrupt this comment section. May god have mercy on your soul

[@robertl6196]

Daddy? Daddy's here? He left for cigarettes so long ago and never came back. I gotta poop.

[@mouthbreather280]

2:18

[@woodchuckcider1]

Ooooh that made me moist

[@Howdy762]

poooooooooop!!! much

[@imrichjamesb____]

This video really helped. I’m a licensed armed security officer and I used to wear level four in my vest. Then I switched over to soft armor level three a but you just let me know I can wear both together. And that way you do get a lot more coverage and you have the ability to always take them out.

[@doccrayon138]

The chafing! treated a ton of chafing issues, combined with difficult hygiene conditions and heat. Great info. Echo Hard! (edited)

[@Scruffers2011]

Most gun fights are forward facing, but I agree with your best choice. I'm very happy with my HRT RAC carrier with Duritium GT (Green Tip) armor plates, .5 inch thick and only 4.5 lbs. But if I'm not in a place or situation where I would be worried about a green tip .556, I have the option of removing the Duritium plates and inserting level 3A soft plates in it to wear it all day without knowing it's there. HRT carriers have some great flexibility too, for attachment points and accessories.

[@robertung3691]

Awesome explanations, just straight forward simple answers, great educational video.

[@PrepMedic]

Thank you!

[@MrFoxxRaven]

When i lived in South Africa the plate carrier was necessary. Lots of old AKs,FALS and Galils still floating about...

[@mariusmisiunas9412]

drinking game, take a shot every time he says " little "

[@cyotedude]

Great advice. Your comment at 2:00-2:13 regarding the likey threats, while applicable today in our relatively normal society, many preppers focus on SHTF prepping. In this regard, the type of shooter and the weapon choice may [will] likely change in SHTF. Thus your SHTF body armor should also be rated for the specific and likely threat you expect to encounter in your prep-world view.

[@vielumiereg9794]

I see a lot of people talking about how "what if you get shot in the arms or legs?"... Well then you just got shot in the arm or leg fam... I mean it's obvious that you can't realistically protect every part of your body, and unfortunately there's no way to predict how a situation will unfold, but having some sort of protection, is certainly far better than having no protection at all. You either wear it or you don't. At the end of the day, if you've found yourself in a firefight, then I mean all you can do is mitigate your chances of getting hit as much as possible, just because you have body armor on doesn't mean that you embrace bullets with open arms lol. A lot of people are just having a misunderstanding about the purpose of body armor. You don't wear body armor to get shot, you wear body armor so that in the chance that you are shot, you will survive, granted it hits the armor. You're still rollin dice here folks.

[@TheEtbetween]

You said it perfectly

[@elirollins1547]

Wtf KZbin is in my brain. I’ve recently been thinking about being a tac med but never searched anything about it and then boom. This video

[@Maverick0f14]

Thanks, Nice video very informative ! Im from Puerto Rico. Working on the private sector, here is very common use for the criminal use of automatic rifles so i choose a 5.11 TacTec platecarier with 2 level IV Ceramic plates. For me its confortable for a 12 hrs shift. Im not using a internal vest but now im consider to get one to combinate with it.

[@KoishiVibin]

Getting something like the Hardwire from Safariland or from some other company is advised. SafeLife is... I'd advise staying away. Chinese products are notorious for poor QC. As it stands, what plates do you have? Also, if you get some IIIA to stick back there, it can increase your protection somewhat, as well as just providing some extended protection. However, this will retain heat. Think wisely, as PR is a hotter environment.

[@noway6633]

@@KoishiVibin Are you saying the safelife Fras is bad?

[@christopherm9494]

This is very thorough and comprehensive, thank you for your hard work and content!!

[@kingboom777]

mmh.. boogaloo may starts tomorrow and youtube recommends this to me.

[@idk1848]

It's been 2 months, how you boogaloo folks doing?

[@prestondunn1991]

ID k still waiting on plate carrier to be shipped lol

[@denniswolff7300]

King boom777 NOBODY WINS IN A BOOGALOO .... I REMEMBER HOW THE LAST ON3 TURNED OUT ....

[@thetonycam3944]

Boogs never gonna happen. Boog boys are the gamers of the 2A community lol

[@GreyRock100]

The boog is gonna be a lot like what happened in South Africa.

[@monkeyvolgs676]

It’s a sad world we live in that paramedics have to where body armor

[@zarris2389]

Couldn't agree more

[@BagelBagelB1]

welcome to america

[@zarris2389]

@@BagelBagelB1 i can't even think about leaving the house unless I have a gun on me now it's depressing

[@kuebby]

You mean shit country. Pretty sure Canadian EMTs don't wear armor.

[@Freddymusician]

Andrew I think in Canada the paramedics all wear stab-proof vests, but not bullet proof rated

[@MS46Z]

Very informative and very well produced video. Could you do a review on what's called "under cover" body armor? It's discreet and not really noticed by most people.

[@vanderwell07ify]

For being a former small county deputy in southern iowa. Most of us did have to buy our own plate carriers. You never know what your gonna run into at 2am and backup is 30-40mins away

[@brianp9054]

Thanks for your service, Sir!

[@k9ninjaworld557]

Brian Parker bootlicker...😂👏

[@fishrrelaxing9361]

Love how the picture for lv3 shows an A2 20” AR when a basic 223 out of a 20” AR will blow right through lv3 lol.

[@e4mafia578]

I wish you would’ve talked about your backpack armor

[@stephenkong8786]

different video

[@OEFarredondo]

🙅🏼🧏🏼👩‍💻 Body armor...

[@openfly4u]

I really appreciate this. As a Infantry soldier, I get that plate carriers give one better range of movement, but the distinct lack of protection against anything other than a direct shot at the vitals is incredibly worrying, Having soft armor externally with the plate carrier as well makes way more sense to me. And as a bonus, you have a single piece of kit that can hold everything the battle belt and plate carrier can hold and give you proper protection against shrapnel.

[@kyleduddleston4123]

Will you be doing a video on SafeLife's new fras soft armor? I think that it the one I am looking to get soon. Lvl III+ protection in a soft vest and great coverage. Yes, please!

[@KoishiVibin]

The problem with FRAS is that it's about equivalent to a Hesco L210... With weight around NIJ III. As well, chinese materials give poor QC.

[@KingOfYourMouth]

My squad just purchased 15 of these from an online seller. Very useful & reliable gear. Greetings from Sinaloa, Mexico. 🇲🇽⚔️⚔️⚔️🇲🇽

[@4catsnow]

We had a medic at Ft Benning that was very realistic about body armor...He took one of the guys and had him put his flak jacket on...Then he told the guy to put his hands in his front pockets..The kid said "why am I doing this?" ...The medic said "I wanted to show you not one, but two unprotected femoral arteries...transect either one in a firefight...you got about 8 minutes to lights out"

[@EchoSigma6]

4catsnow Reminds me of the scene in the movie Black Hawk Down, poor Ranger died from a leg shot and bled to death.

[@vielumiereg9794]

That's true, but there's always sacrifice. Of course you can't cover everything, but something is certainly better than nothing at all. The best way to protect yourself is to not find yourself in a firefight lol.

[@EchoSigma6]

VieLumiere G Agreed but sometimes the SHTF and things happen. Stay safe.

[@4catsnow]

@@vielumiereg9794 When we wore the green, the army kept getting it's ass handed to it...all it took was some lieutenant that thought he was freakin' john wayne..

[@DmitriyLaktyushkin]

That sounds like a rather long time for an artery.. maybe with pressure, but no tourniquet?

[@Every14days826]

I wear a plate carrier, in my line of work mobility is key. Different cuts and coverage for everyone. I don’t wear my body armor expecting it to stop any bullets. I wear my armor to make sure my family gets full benefits if anything happens to me. The truth is you could always get shot in the head, in the legs and arm were vital arteries are and bleed out. As cool as they are I still prefer knowing how to use my weapon. Nice video great presentation of overt and covert vests.

[@MC-zr7hl]

What do you mean about the benefits?

[@Ry_TSG]

M C His family would probably get repaid if something happened to him on the job because he was wearing the armor. Insurance thing I assume

[@Every14days826]

M C yup the insurance is tied to my gear. Higher pay out if I’m properly armored up. No armor equals base payout

[@smokeGR14]

It's about protection..alittle is better then none regardless of how well you can shoot...

[@MC-zr7hl]

@@Every14days826 oh wow yeah I guess that makes sense, thanks

[@johnpward4640]

Great video. Wish I'd seen it before I bought a plate carrier. Thankfully, (?) carrier had defective stitching, unraveling after 2 shifts so back it went. Going now for Medsafe IIIA+ Extended protection; they say it weighs #7 vs the same size vest in FRAS which is #17+. Can't wait to get it, PRAY I never "need" it. Great videos for all around medical "smarts!" I wish you were on 20 years ago!

[@LNVACVAC]

Side protection in general is just for show. Current standards for soft armor establish the effective protective surface with a V50 for the munitions tested begins after 3 inches from all borders of the vest.

[@Katzenkotze85]

As somebody who worked 7 years in germany as paramedic - this video makes me sad... we never used to wear body armor... we had no need to do so... today however, it is more and more in use - but just the blade-protection types which are only suitable against knife attacks (just because we don´t have many gun shootings here)... =/ but anyway, cool informative video!

[@nunyabiznis9598]

You can thank your leaders and immigration from non European countries for that.

[@Mahasattva27]

Excellent video. Very well organized and presented.

[@A7Xguitarplayer0272]

I love how there was a safe life ad with you in it before the start of this video 😂

[@alexbell9196]

Made some good points. Some of the same things i was pondering you talked about. Appreciate the realiatic experience.

[@alexwilliams9900]

Armed security and a Auxiliary Police officer. I wear a lvl 3a with a lvl 3+ 8x10 plate insert. LBV. From point blank love my vest

[@thedog4499]

How many rifle rounds have you taken?

[@sexywater1064]

I don't know about not likely to encounter riffle threats as a civilian but thanks for the information peace

[@fairchildf-2483]

Thanks, for the best explanation of body armor.

[@dannystratyys4002]

Thanks Sam, appreciate the info! Stay safe!

[@bruh-bl9es]

hi sam, like your videos, keep doing what you're doing ❤

[@superboy305]

You sir deserve a medal and a drink. 👏🏾

[@GreyRock100]

I would get a body armor set up if I could get a patch that says "Goober." I just don't want people to think I take myself seriously.

[@saltypepper5696]

Just combine all 3 and on top of that put on an EOD suit. Then put on some titanium plates on the EOD suit. Lastly attatch an exoskeleton to the suit and you should be ready to fight.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Essentially the Payday 2 "Killdozer".

[@KoishiVibin]

Then get got by a dude running M993. :P Titanium is crap anyway.

[@ThunderKat]

If you are on mission 9, vey close to the final boss...I always recommend any armor type that at least has some critical damage reduction :)

[@learnshareevolve1842]

Good discussion of soft armor + plate carriers.

[@grassy3777]

I’m always waiting for these

[@onurakdoganmusic]

Loved it.Perfect explanation

[@jaropeanutbutter9949]

Stab protection is a different dynamic and some knives/ steaks can get through kevlar

[@wanbawmcgraw3045]

None of the military branches get to choose what armour they get apart from the tier 1 units, Delta, ST6 and a few others but apart from that they get what their given.

[@lowercase3635]

I actually wanna know what shirt you’re wearing!

[@CHIVAWERO]

Same here!

[@roal-3369]

They have some of these at 5.11

[@ShinyArjunSingh]

wow man...made my life.. Nice one Subscribed...Keep'em comin....

[@MikeUtah]

Great overview, thank you.

[@michaelfulcher6390]

I've had the Eagle Industries MARCIRAS for many years. Its big, heavy, and works.

[@aaronwilkinson8963]

The osprey armour the British army get issued is pretty decent. Its soft armour with large plates front and back.

[@adamwilsonian7243]

If you're struggling with the political aspect of external carriers, especially molle carriers, don't forget to mention that you might save $$$, particularly through health care costs and its related HR costs (OT, extra people to cover shifts of injured officers, turnover due to injury or painkillers issues, and other issues)

[@Sid0404]

Even if a person is not in special forces being on the SWAT team would still require the same amount of mobility.

[@KoishiVibin]

Ehhh... Remember, SWAT units are going to expect a lot more fire, and have a lot less room to work with.

[@MC-zr7hl]

Mobility yes but also swat isn't going out on 10 hour patrols walking 15 miles a day so for the extra protection around the sides they can sacrifice a little comfort. Just a thought.

[@PrepMedic]

It’s always a give and take. We have “light rigs” set up for super confined operations and manhunts in the mountains but for your general warrants the marshmallow suits are our go to.

[@hossv1147]

Great video. Thanks for the breakdown.

[@thomaschase7097]

Ar500 plates are heavy. They are not bulky. They are less than .25 " without coating. I purchased their built up coating and still less than half inch. Also, if you are already wearing all the armor you think you need under your shirt, you can also just get a chest rig. Thanks for the video.

[@JimPepperTactical]

Thomas Chase half inch front and back I’d definitely call bulky

[@thomaschase7097]

@@JimPepperTactical LOL then you definitely don't want level 4. Most bulky of all.

[@SanSabaSongbird]

Just go for the full level 4 ceramics. Most of these will sit in a closet until SHTF. If that happens, everybody that has been stockpiling M855 is going to be disappointed that they cant kill me.

[@samuelg3586]

Outstanding video.

[@stevewilliams2895]

funny enough, a bomb suit offers very little balistic protection, demo ranch recently tested it and the chest piece stopped handgun rounds and the helmet didnt even do that, military grade high density polyethylene seems to be the best in terms of protection and weight but i only really have experience with kevlar vests

[@Metalfan-ve1zg]

"A little painful I'm afraid."

[@tomogie-kristianson6300]

Excellent overview. Thans

[@OdeeOz]

Great for recommendations! _However, _*_the majority of body armor, will not stop most rifle rounds._*

[@miguellavoie4373]

You said you were not special forces...but you said you were on SWAT. My dude.....that's pretty fucking special forces in my mind. Own that an be proud.

[@KevinJohn556]

The newer safelife FRAS system looks awesome

[@ladder81capt79]

Garand Daddy is there!

[@antonemilit2178]

Hello from Cape Town, South Africa

[@BK-zv9kn]

Thank you for your opinion. Good stuff.

[@bencoe1003]

Hey Sam Another Great video Wish you went over the prices! Maybe next time? Thanks for the awesome content

[@cupcakefights]

Now a video on helmets please!

[@sumanghosh-pb3dw]

1:42 - guns armor can protect against. 2:42 - most protection is bomb suits. 3:27 - internal soft armor

[@bryanfeliciano4102]

Debating wether I should get armor or not. My district has had some pretty bad incidents with ems personnel being hurt

[@havocnationriders755]

11:45 what is that vest by far my favorite ive seen.

[@erjuxos4752]

First Spear not sure which model

[@peewoops86]

Thanks, this'll help me @ school when the quite kid reaches into his backpack

[@swaggytoast5242]

"Quite" lol nice.

[@spacehitler4537]

@@swaggytoast5242 He's got a silencer.

[@swaggytoast5242]

@@spacehitler4537 you obviously dont understand

[@spacehitler4537]

@@swaggytoast5242 Yeah I know he put the E in the wrong place. The meaning was clear enough regardless.

[@KoishiVibin]

Try hardwire from Safariland. Should eat handgun ammo. Also look into hand to hand techniques. Or just throw your jacket at him as he draws. Then get him.

[@tribalism_is_toxic1989]

When discussing increasing levels ur hand should raise vertically rather than lower. JS.

[@Alphakoncepts]

You mention not wearing a plate carrier all day. It's not that bad. I wear a AR650 plate carrier under a uniform shirt about 44 hours a week. Weight is about 20-22 LBs with side plates. You get used to it. I'm looking at the FRAS from Safelife, but that's a pricey piece of kit.

[@ch1tbag442]

You slipped that picture of plaid daddy garand thumb in here and I have to change my pants now. You gotta warn a guy about this!

[@mclt8883]

Enjoyed your vid. , but with dark plate carriers and background you need better lighting.

[@MrEye4get]

I was once stopped and padded down by a police officer (for his protection?) for suspicious flying of my drone! The officer noticed I was carrying (legal CCW permit) a gun and wearing a level 2A vest. He asked, "Why are you wearing that? I replied, do you know how many illegal guns there are in the U.S.? Why do you wear one?

[@ThomasThings]

Now I'm ready to build my bullet proof protogen suit. I have all yhe information I need.

[@bill-ws5cc]

not sure if I were right: if only consider both the concealment and protection, looks like the second one(safelifedefense) is the one to go, because it can be wore underneath cloth (is it?) and it can upgrade protection by inserting hard plates.

[@rubenhernandez2888]

I have used the safe life concealable soft armor everyday for security contracting for the last two years and I must say it gets stinky pretty fast. Ive noticed if I turn it inside out after shift it won't stink as much by the next day but does get stinky by the end of day. What do you recommend to keep smells down in between washes? Btw... I wash the vest cover at least once a week but it's starting show to wear from the frequent washes...

[@jameson1239]

I have never worn body armour however I have worn hockey gear and I used Downey in plastic bags just in the gear to deal with the smell I don’t know of it would help with body armour however so it might work

[@rubenhernandez2888]

The softener sounds like a great idea. All I need is to remove the vest from the Kevlar panels. Thanks a lot.

[@stalkerme3703]

Curious to ask. In our place there has never been a concealable internal soft armor. Is there any way to buy outside of my place? Coming from the Philippines.

[@kennys907]

Demolition ranch just tested a bombsuit and it appears to not be bullet proof at all

[@mikewilliams8151]

Second Chance body armor use to make pistol belt in Kevlar for added protection because of the best is short for sitting down.

[@BLVCKBURN]

EMS1 Academy has a great online CAPCE F3 course on this topic. The course is titled "Body Armor and the Changing Landscape of Public Safety". It provides one-hour of CEUs. If you have access to EMS1 Academies courses, I recommend anyone take it.

[@PHMTHEDON]

Is this the Medic from MGS5?

[@tylercraig9273]

Would you be able to look at the new flexible rifle armor from safe life defense? I think it looks interesting.

[@entrepreneursfinest]

I'm 6'5, athletic, and with a pretty wide chest. Everything looks like it was made for children on me and I'd need an extra half a plate to get the same coverage as most people. I cannot begin to express how depressing it is that I can't participate and feel like I'm actually getting much benefit.

[@andrewjackson631]

Thank you dude.

[@applejackhonesty1960]

I'm thinking of getting a ciras but I'm not sure if it's big enough to run 12 mags (double stack close top pouches btw)

[@lrrprangerglenn]

Great vid!

[@ava9oh1282000]

Weird how quickly this became out of date. plenty of plate carriers have soft armor and can take plates. Velocity, First spear, KDH, Pointblank ect ect. and plates have evolved and become much lighter. Dayton armor, Hesco, shotstop. my lvl 4 AP rated plates are 6lbs.

[@andrewcowie6436]

Thank you! :)