Presentasjon av koreanske Hyundai Rotem K2 Black Panther og tyske Leopard 2A7.

Forsvaret står ovenfor valg av nye stridsvogner. Torsdag kjempet Koreanske Hyundai Rotem K2 Black Panther og tyske Leopard 2A7 om forsvarets gunst på Rena. Foto: Krister Sørbø, Forsvarets forum
Les hele saken om testene her: forsvaretsforum.no/forsvarsma...

[@KorayU.]

K2 ❤️ From Turkey 🇹🇷🤝🇰🇷

[@kihoonlim]

Like the k9, the k2 is a great tank. The upgraded k2 NO is equipped with the latest systems.

[@jeffstrong4580]

Let the best tank win. K2 does have auto loader feature which is great when you are fire and moving. Not fun inside moving tank as loader. Suspension system in K2 does give extra options hitting enemy from difficult angle which K2 has twice gun angle compare to Leopard 2 or M1. Also smaller target with suspension lowered does give 20% better chance not being hit.

[@Antares2]

I like the K2 because I think it looks cool and because it would be exciting to get a new type after seeing Leopards for so long.

[@gunnar6674]

Agreed - it would be neat to have a Korean tank. But of course they should choose the best tank based on their criteria, whichever it is.

[@halfonso_0871]

Continuing with leopard is better ford logistics, doctrine and crew training

[@ronealbia7721]

i still choose the leopard 2 tank because it is battle combat proven than the korean kimchi K2 Black Panther

[@robsche5130]

definitely my two favourite tanks!

[@rogerfederer6422]

Rotem K2 is amazing!

[@muzikizfun]

Both tanks are excellent. The main difference is the German tank is optimized for the rolling hills of central Europe and the Korean tank is built for the high rough hills and narrow valleys of the Korean peninsula. The suspension system on the K-2 let's the front of the vehicle kneel and also elevate. The result is the depression and elevation of the cannon is increased and it is ideal for the kind of terrain in Korea! Ironically these same features allow it to operate in unique ways in any terrain! I read with humor about those quoting the thickness of armor and protection levels on each tank. This just shows the level of ignorance of the posters as the governments and manufacturers have not disclosed this information and the postings are mere wild ass guesses.

[@muzikizfun]

@Dirk Bürger yes the tank has a lot of German designed components but also many from the USA, France and some from ideas from Russia. But to the North Korean tanks on the otherside of the line don't think the things you listed are bad, they are definitely afraid of the K-2. But let me be blunt as to the reliability of diesel engines in a tank. Compared to a turbine engine they are not as reliable, though they are more fuel efficient.

[@kimms4123]

@Dirk Bürger can't agree on your opinion and it is incorrect.

[@brizzled5193]

We are comparing a 3rd generation tank vs a fourth generation tank, and the fact that the leopard 2 after multiple years can nearly still be really good, even against fourth generations tanks, is beyond impressive, Also Germany, France, and possibly UK are making a fourth generation tank as well that is set to be operational by 2040. Also Dirk, a lot of super countries use german related equipment, like the USA use germans L/44 Japan TYPE 10 uses a license german tank rounds, and etc etc

[@brizzled5193]

Also, I gaurentee the K2 Black Panther would had never existed if it weren't for the germans mindset of tanks

[@muzikizfun]

@@brizzled5193 I don't think either would the Abrams, Challanger, Armada or any other tank since 1945!

[@TriplePistol]

Finally, The match what the world has been waiting for

[@user-tg9ym1kw9q]

K-2 Black Panther 화이팅~!!

[@wookchang8852]

K2 is designed and manufactured in South Korea where summer heat reaches 40 degree celsius and winter cold, down to -30 degree celsius. Therefore K2 will run under any climate condition without a hitch.

[@adlkdflsk]

good so maybe they will be the same good as leopards 2

[@iustinel25]

+ K2 NO have Trophy active protection vs Leo 2A7V don't have this type of system , K2 his more little vs Leo and some people will say his more expresive etc bla bla bla for my K2 his far more good vs Leo + Fire rate his very nice in K2 ... manual loading in 2022 nice joke

[@adlkdflsk]

@@iustinel25 k2NO has a trophy as option, the same leopard 2aX with hard kill. k2 is much smaller becuase of the reduction of weight and it has paper side armour. also the front protection angle range is 2x smaller becuase k2 has a weight limitation. side armour is 50mm of steel and ERA witch will not stop stronger atgms or 30mm KE. Small turret has also weak zone on the top and it has very small space inside the tank. leopard 2a7 is much better protected and trophy can also be installed on leopards. k2 has wekaer 120mm cannon because L55a1 is much better and you can use stronger projectiles. about mobility k2 is much shorter so it has poorer traction becuase it has the same unit pressure on the ground as heawier leopard 2 but with longer and wider tracks.

[@-Idonotknow]

@@adlkdflsk yes because each tank are made for different purposes in the first place for example like having different terrains

[@adlkdflsk]

@@-Idonotknow k2 was designed to be light. they get it with stipping of armour from the side and making the very small turret with weak zones on the top. k2NO has poor armour and only narrow front has great protection. K2PL was a rebuilded concept where k2 is much bigger and much better protected. it will be heavier like leo2a7v

[@joohokim212]

Love the new generation of Feline Tanks. Now Korea has joined the family.

[@jeffstrong4580]

During Leopard 2 and K2 Black Panther test in Norway, K2 tank with S Korean tungsten round was able to penetrate 800mm armor compare to 630mm armor with German tungsten round for Leopard 2. This is kinetic energy penetration thus K2 will be able to penetrate new Russian T90 with Kontackt 5 reactive armor with 800mm kinetic armor protection from over 2km away.

[@gunnar6674]

Interesting, yet Norway has not released any information from the tests, public or not. Is this told by Hyundai Rotem?

[@norwegiannationalist7678]

This is false. The M829A4 round that the leopard 2 uses pens any russian tank with new and old kontakt 5

[@jonny2954]

@@norwegiannationalist7678 Leopard 2A7V uses the DM73, not the M829A4. The DM73 is only usable with the higher pressure L55A1 gun on the Leopard 2A7V.

[@norwegiannationalist7678]

@@jonny2954 Wrong again, The leopard can use the M829A4 in its gun

[@jonny2954]

@@norwegiannationalist7678 It can, but it doesen't make sense. The 2A7V uses the L55A1 main gun which has a higher maximum chamber pressure than the regular L55 and L44. The DM73 utilizes that higher chamber pressure, achieving about 20% better performance then the M829A4 which still only operates at the lower pressure of the L44 (M256).

[@Cta2006]

It can go both ways. Norway has a long hsitory with Leopard tanks, but Norway has also just bought the K-9 Thunder Self-propelled artillery from South Korea and seem to be very pleased with that material.

[@scratchy996]

The reason they went for the k9 instead of the PzH-2000 is that the K9 is smaller and it fits better on narrow mountain roads. It's great seeing the Koreans doing so well in the defense industry, competition is a good thing for everyone and it's great seeing Nato and its allies stay on top of the game.

[@aronhayse9895]

​@@scratchy996 lol PzH-2000 has and effective range 36km while K-9 has 41km

[@scratchy996]

@@aronhayse9895 lol, you don't even know how to google. Here you go : Panzerhaubitze 2000 Effective firing range DM121 Boattail: 30-36 km (19-22 mi) M1711 Base bleed: 40-47 km (25-29 mi) RAP: 67 km (42 mi) How does it feel to be a moron ?

[@max_7344]

@@aronhayse9895 and K9A2’s autoloader caught up the pzh-2000 for the rate of fire / min.

[@mastermariner490]

@@aronhayse9895 That depends on the ammo,Einstein and is the same for all NATO artillery

[@tabletennis-tv]

K2 go go !!

[@tabletennis-tv]

🇰🇷👏👏👏

[@damien4278]

I'm S.Korean, but I hope the two excellent tanks will compete fairly regardless of nationality.

[@kapfazo]

Good attitude. 👍

[@marinecitysheriff]

For performance and quality, K2 will do but most of allies around the Norway adopted Leo.

[@leokim1458]

A lot less bureaucracy with K2NO MBT. They'll get tech and training so they will be completely self reliant when it comes to maintenance, which is quite important if you ask me. It could go either way though.

[@yudhiadi6100]

Politic and trade policy between Europe and Norway will determine the choice

[@happydrawing7309]

@@yudhiadi6100 China!!!

[@perry1055]

K2 will be the definite winner!!!

[@eyyze]

Press X to doubt.

[@norbi1411]

Not even close

[@kfx3907]

@@norbi1411 Not even close? Can i know the reasons?

[@MrRjizz]

@@kfx3907 the leopard a7 is objectively a better tank. however, the price might be an issue. The same happened with the archer artillery system, it might be better but too expensive for the Norwegian budget.

[@PERUN319]

@@norbi1411 K2 offers better protection and is much lighter. The only good thing about choosing the Leopard is that Germany is much closer so in theory it should be easier and cheaper to maintain the tanks but that is sadly not the case right now. Germany is struggling to produce anything and is a tough business partner which Poland, Hungary and many other central/eastern countries can confirm. Additionally many countries are beginning to question if Germany is an actual Allie of the EU and NATO

[@max_7344]

To tell the truth, technically Leopard lost due to the fact that K2 got the most scores, based on the official statement by the chief of Norwegian defense. First off, Germany is currently purchasing 200billion $$$ of Norwegian LNG. The chief of Norwegian defense confessed that K2 got the most scores and thus technically K2 is the winner, however, the Norwegian prime minister’s determination and is political, regardless of the score. Norwegian officials actually phone called to South Korea to send the congratulating message of winning days ahead of the date of result statement. The second reason, that Norwegian Cavalry association supports Leo for the fact that concerning of reducing crew/reloader if they choose K2.

[@jonny2954]

Still coping.

[@ybtiger6503]

A longer video is needed. thank you. Dynamic Korea! Dynamic K2 !

[@SJkopa]

my favorite tank black panther

[@militaryk2178]

K2 is a weapon born in extreme super-situation

[@captaintuvok714]

Just like the Leo. They tested it in Nevada and Canada.

[@marinecitysheriff]

@@captaintuvok714 yours are just a spinoff version of 80’s tank. 4th generation tanks necessitate auto loader and fewer crews. Plus gun barrels are dangling like hell and mobility sucks in such a terrain you boastfully say it’s tested in Nevada or whatever 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@captaintuvok714]

@@marinecitysheriff the Leopard 2 is currently deployed in the armys of 16 countrys. Countrys like sweden, austria, greece, turkey and canada use the leopard. Countries with rough terraine like mountains, deserts and arctic climate. In 1977 canada acquired its first Leopard 1 tanks and operated them until 2017. This tells you how successfull the Leopard tanks are. K2 uses a german MTU MB engine btw.

[@su-5727]

@@captaintuvok714 agree

[@unpublishedmilitaryvideo5388]

@@captaintuvok714 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4WVZ62AZduGnpKpui

[@rafchitakoff3483]

Strong tanks, Respect from Russia🇷🇺

[@kelifonium_5989]

Actually this tanks are mixture of west and Russian technology. And some tempering of Korean atmosphere.

[@gaijinbot8135]

@@kelifonium_5989 Actually the K2 is not a mixture of Russian technology because it uses a completely different autoloading system that the Japanese and French use, which loads the ammunition from a bustle rack instead of a carousel like in Russian tanks

[@kelifonium_5989]

@@gaijinbot8135 It's a rare hybrid of East and West. As project brown bear, ROK gather some Russian military technology as dept.

[@blitzzkrieg1400]

Yeah. Norway might use those tanks against your country in case Russia extends its ambitions beyond Ukraine

[@muyangcheng3874]

@@kelifonium_5989 The only thing that the koreans learned from the T-80U was its snorkel system......literally nothing else. T-80U crucially didn't even have third generation thermals or commander's thermal and the koreans found the T-80U composite mix to be inferior to their western counterparts. So no, there's absolutely no way that K2 inherited anything of significance from russian tech.....

[@ryanlee3966]

black panther looks even more stable while driving on snow.

[@Zuilietzhan]

Most Russian have preferred to use Korea Hyundai truck or bus . The real reason, Korea commercial vehicles run without malfunction in severe Siberian cold !! K9 could defeat PZH 2000 as the new Norway propellent , PZH 2000 got error in cold situation test, but K9 ran & shot even same condition.

[@nagmashot]

funny point is that Norway wants their tanks fitted with MTU engine and Renk transmission no matter if they choose K2 or Leo2 :p The only reason Norway choose the K9 over the PzH 2000 was costs and weight...the PzH 2000 is the far better Artillery than the K9 in any respect

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

@@nagmashot Unpopular opinion.

[@heuhen]

@@nagmashot Norwegian here, The PzH2000 had many problems during winter testing, and some of them was of that type, that it would be usles in Norwegian weather condition. Yes it is good artillery when you operate in it in large open terrain with small hills like middle Europa, but when it comes to the harsh condition of North Norway with mountains and swamps, it's worthless.

[@user-gx9hk8gt3k]

@@nagmashot Nein

[@edwardkim8972]

The Pzh had two advantages over the K9 in the Norwegian testing. First was slightly higher rate of fire and greater sustained fire because their powder charge doesn't make the barrel or breech too hot. However, to get the slightly higher fire rate their loading system is very expensive and overly complicated. It looks like a Russian style carousel type of system from my observation. Lots of moving parts. Very expensive for not much increase in performance. Other than that its unreliability in snow and ice (Norwegian reports that the Pzh broke down a few times!) made it fall out of the competition fairly midway and it was really just between the K9 and the Swiss modified version of the M-109. However, the K9 is more modern with a bigger and larger range gun than the Swiss M-109 so the K9 was the winner.

[@frankiecalsone8536]

our sofa analyst's voice for k2🤩🇰🇷 from Russia🇷🇺

[@derejoin]

T-80U's nephew

[@arcticbrox6328]

Blir meget spennende å se ka det blir. Tror begge to er gode valg.

[@user-mu5fg8gp8h]

Beautiful 2 tanks I think both of them are excellent.

[@kapfazo]

That's true. Good opportunity to see both tanks running together.

[@edwardkim8972]

Yes. Much better attitude than Arjun fans.

[@jirendemicol8070]

@@edwardkim8972 arjun is worst

[@jPlanerv2]

Poland is looking in to buying modified verision on K2, K2PL with lengthened hull and some other changes but its only in paper form so far.

[@ke7pie382]

Poland decided to buy the Abrams, not the K2

[@stevenkim5688]

@@ke7pie382 Poland decided to buy both ;)

[@ke7pie382]

@@stevenkim5688 Yeah you're right and we gonna buy and bulit a lot od them, but 5 months ago it was complicated

[@Ken4JCML]

Elite MBTs will start to use 130mm. Without the auto-loading system, considering the size and weight of the new ammunition, reloading time will be signicantly extended with the manual system. BlackPanther is 130mm ready already with it's auto-load! 💯

[@shakenbakejake25]

130mm has already been tested, the ideal weight / velocity of round is deemed to be between 100-125mm. 100 usually being the case for sub caliber munitions (APDS or ATGM ammo casings).

[@Ken4JCML]

@@shakenbakejake25 Idk where you got it from but prolly said that cus they can't handle 130mm on their tanks atm anyways

[@Alexx120493]

Doubtful that a 120mm autoloader could be adapted for 130mm rounds. The gun is heavier, the breach is bigger and the rounds are significantly longer (probably more than 1300mm length) and the muzzle energy is about 55% higher with the proportional increase in recoil.

[@shakenbakejake25]

@@Ken4JCML but why would they when 120mm works fine. You can just improve the penetrator, or the ammunition instead of having to spend money to redesign a new gun.

[@daisy-eh9wh]

K2no가 선정되길 응원합니다!👍

[@user-we2ct5sn3s]

김치냄새 안나게하라

[@user-dc3mc2rh7j]

@@user-we2ct5sn3s 대한사람 대한으로 조선족은 중공으로!

[@user-we2ct5sn3s]

@@user-dc3mc2rh7j 재한 중국동포 70 만 이재명후보 지지한다

[@max_7344]

@@user-we2ct5sn3s 어이 황해, 인육 맛있냐

[@edps3348]

Go for K2!!

[@stevenbreach2561]

K2 seems an eminently sensible buy for a mountainous country like Norway.....bloody expensive though!

[@andreasmeyer3593]

for the Norwegians money is not a problem, they have more than they know what to do with it.

[@unpublishedmilitaryvideo5388]

@@andreasmeyer3593 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4GWpaOjZsyfbNGch

[@edwardkim8972]

Leo2A7V is more expensive though...

[@digiver]

I heard that Leopard 2A7 is more expensive

[@vignasimp2835]

@@andreasmeyer3593 oil go brrrrrrrr

[@orion9026]

Part of me wonder if the L2 will win again simply due to being able to use older L2 models for spare parts I do I do hope they pick the better tank and the K2 is looking pretty spicy

[@Ima184mm]

Hope you are doing good result

[@onderhandilek8180]

I love you Korea. 🇹🇷🤝🇰🇷

[@jodhi2068]

discount k2 You can pay with Norwegian mackerel I like mackerel

[@muyangcheng3874]

It's interesting cos you can actually see the clear advantage of a hydropneumatic suspension of the K2 on snow terrain compared to the torsion bar on the Leo2......K2 seems to rock significantly less than the Leo

[@jonny2954]

That's more due to the weight. The Leopard turret is a lot heavier than the K2 turret, higher center of gravity -> more rocking.

[@user-tv5kc9nqyg6]

🇰🇷K2👍

[@user-sl6hd3co1g]

기동간에 포신의 안정성(?)은 k2가 확실히 나아 보이네~

[@Future183]

Stabilizer on leopard wasnt on bruh

[@hitiger7]

I LOVE IT~@@@!!!

[@danielcraig2431]

공개적으로 투명하게 평가하는거 같네

[@Mustela001]

결과야 모르겠지만, 노르웨이는 K2 보고 신선했을 거다. 우리가 노르웨이 의자 (하그) 나 신발을 봤을 때처럼!

[@user-sy4ii9cj7o]

굿 !!!!!👍💝🇰🇷

[@labongk4057]

Awesome!! K2 !!!

[@Vegane_Atombombe]

As a german i actually should kinda hope that the Leopard will win the contract BUT the K2 is a very impressive tank and Norway has to (and hopefully will!) choose the best option for itself. And keep in mind that there's a lot of german technology in the K2 such as the gun and the engine... BTW: This video will really come in handy for one of my planned K2 scale models in the future because of the interesting camouflage scheme. Anybody got rather more precise infos about the externally visible differences between the domestic K2 and the NO-version?

[@hazelnut3794]

It is still talking about the past, and at this point, the engine has already succeeded in localizing 100% from the second mass production to the third mass production in Korea (Doosan Infracore), and except for 100 first mass production units, only the power pack has been decided to use German tech.

[@unpublishedmilitaryvideo5388]

@@hazelnut3794 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4WVZ62AZduGnpKpii

[@Future183]

@@hazelnut3794 yes but in fact the k2 is reversed engineered technoligy like the k9 and is heavily based on german technic

[@fabercastellgrafvon1832]

The k2's ce08 main gun and power pack are thanks to German technology. Thank you

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@fabercastellgrafvon1832 Why don’t we go back to WW2 and claim all tanks are based on German technology? Lol. You girls are so funny.

[@hypers2969]

전역할때 입던 속옷도 반납하라고 할 정도로 절약해야 한다고 하니 저렴한거 고르는게 나은선택 이라고 봅니다.

[@OleBrumHonning]

Hvis det hadde vært mulig, så hadde det vært kjekt med samme mulighet å fylle på amo på samme måte som k10 gjør det for k9.

[@danamoradi6031]

I love Norway

[@onderhandilek8180]

Which engine and transmission did the K2 Black Panther join? German MTU engine and RENK transmission or Korean Doosan engine and S&T Dynamics transmission. Does anyone knows?

[@mokpoly]

According to the article, the tank used in the trial has a doosan engine and renk transmission.

[@ki508]

Good K2

[@ps9898]

Polish army already received first 12 K2's and 24 K9 howitzers :)

[@KokiaKola]

Får bare håpe at K2 vinner.

[@user-zm8wg8lj5w]

Well made VIVA COREA! SEE YOU AT THE TOP! WE CAN DO IT From south Corea

[@Captain_chaos010]

Blir långt att söka reserv delar. Tänkte bara Finland,Sverige,Danmark,Tyskland, Baltikum mm har Leopard men ja lycka till!

[@Captain_chaos010]

@Varangian Guard Hur hjälper det er i krigs tid? om det fabriket då förstörs nästa sydkorea? förstår du vad jag menar resten av nordiska länderna kan anors hjälpa

[@KokiaKola]

@@Captain_chaos010 the K2 will most likely be produced in Norway, meaning we can also not only produce the tank in Norway, but also the spareparts domestically too instead of relying on another nation, that is atleast what Hyundai rotem offers a production license in Norway. the Leopard's manufacturer (KMW) does not offer this from what is known to the public, so then we are rylying on KMW to deliver spareparts in a wartime situation, and currently, they cant even do that with the Leopard 2A4...

[@user-zm8wg8lj5w]

고맙다! thank you!

[@user-jd4ro5ed5l]

K2 is pretty.

[@iapetos3429]

K2 👍 good

[@user-ph8xc6yc9v]

Hyundai auto : Ioniq 5 Hyundai Rotem : K9

[@AnilAl_Iraqi]

*2022/1/28*

[@hb3675]

설원 주행에서 누가봐도 어떤 탱크가 좋은지 보인다.

[@user-oq5gv7tq2n]

레오파드 안미끌어지고 잘달리네...

[@earth3planet103]

K2는 130mm 활강포탄 주포로 업그레이드 예정되어 있고, 전차 기동 중에도 자동장전 속사가 가능합니다~ 필요시 수동장전도 가능! 산악지형에 기동이 특화되어 있고요~ K2전차 생산 라인까지 노르웨이 영토 내에 구축 하셔서 창정비 및 예비부품 맘대로 하세요~ K2 강력 추천 합니다^^ 내 생명 전차와 함께!🇰🇷

[@earth3planet103]

WINTER IS COMING.. BE READY..

[@PIZZA_KITTY]

Leopard looks like Buff body K2 looks like ripped lean body

[@user-ou3xe5vn7m]

South Korea provides two types of K2 tank to European countries. One is for high land country like Norway and the other is for low land country like Poland. The second typed tank is more heavy than the first one. and in the future, the K2 tank can be reformed with 130 mm electrothermal chemical gun that is under development.

[@donghyeonyou9994]

전열 화학포는 아직 확정된 정보가 전혀 없습니다..

[@vagus1299]

기름이 자르르 흐르는 노르웨이 연어와 고등어 먹고 싶다. I want to eat Norwegian salmon and mackerel with oily fish. Korea loves Norway, which helped us during the Korean War.

[@heuhen]

you can get nice Norwegian fish at some restaurant in Korea, and Japanese Sushi restaurant do often use Norwegian fish. Norway export a lot of fish to Asia, specially of the A-quality fish, we only get the B-quality fish in our stores! weird

[@max_7344]

@@heuhen we want massive quantities with “good” price, since it is the most expensive Mackerel out there lol I’m sure that Norway & South Korea could definitely be good friends in civil-side, not only limited in defense connection.

[@scotkim3427]

Does Norway need APC like redneck?

[@christio02]

Please K2

[@superk9142]

Hopefully K2 win!!!

[@norbi1411]

Highly doubtful

[@superk9142]

@@norbi1411 funny, Are you jealous Korean weapon?? 😂 or have inferior complex of Korea 🇰🇷?? 😂

[@JHJ510]

k2

[@jeffstrong4580]

Poland wants what S Korea wants thus Poland should ask S Korea to replace deadbeat Indonesia in KF21 fighter program. Poland is also NATO country thus there is less headache dealing with using American parts. Cost of operation is half of F35 and able to control UAV for 6th generation warfare. S Korea is #1 in IT and electronic industry thus able to produce high quality AESA radars which able to defeat Russian and Chinese radars. Poland already has all the basics for maintaining their own aircraft thus just need training and machines from S Korea which will able to help other NATO countries equipped with S Korean weapons.

[@Ima184mm]

Yeah I want Poland join KF-21 Program with Partner

[@davidjacobs8558]

Less talk, more action

[@heuhen]

This was just an open introduction for the media, after this, it's days/weeks with off limit testing

[@phDJANG-ge8me]

I couldnt agree more

[@poseidonkevin8807]

K2 Black Panther made in South Korea . . .so cool

[@asooiso]

I share winter is perfect for k2

[@Kampfgruppe9260]

K2 schwarzer Panther 👍

[@axax3691]

Korea 🇰🇷 👍👏👏👏👏👏

[@user-gl7ns4up1o]

Take K2 and join K3 develoment.

[@user-rd7nh8wi9v]

А теперь миролюбивые норвежцы, проведите испытание с РПГ7!

[@user-qj5pt7dp5k]

대한민국 전차가 선정되길 바랍니다, 화이팅!!!

[@jaelum4513]

우리도 저렴하게 연어 먹어보자~ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 가자 k2!

[@sphong3463]

k2 can be crossed by swimming when crossing a river with a depth of 5m, It has a surf fence that can adjust its position through posture control even at an inclination angle, and it shows faster maneuverability than the Leopard 2A7, and the price is much cheaper than the 2A7.

[@RoninTF2011]

More modern plattform, reduced crew, similar performance. If the Leopard is not significantly cheaper or the offered logistics conditions better...I guess the K2 will make the cut

[@jonny2954]

Not similar performance. K2 exceeds in mobility due to lower weight while the Leopard has the edge in protection and lethality. It comes down to what the Norwegian Army wants.

[@noirback6884]

If the Norwegian officials are not swayed by political influence, the K-2 is expected to win overwhelmingly. The 2A7 is a manual reload system. Tank-to-tank engagements require an attack during evasive maneuvers. And if it is upgraded to 130mm in the future, it will be almost impossible to directly carry and load 130mm ammunition with a wider caliber inside the tank during evasive maneuvers. It will be difficult for the 2A7 to reload ammunition in a timely manner when performing evasive maneuvers on rugged mountains. And the K-2 tank has hydraulic suspension. You can adjust your stance to attack from top to bottom or from bottom to top in the mountains of Norway. As you can see from the video, the K-2 is equipped with an APS system. If Norway chooses 2A7, the APS hard kill system will be applied. However, the sincerity of the German manufacturer is lacking. The creators of the K-2 tanks are showing their passion for installing rubber tracks just before they arrive in Norway. It is possible that Norwegian officials already have the K-2 in mind. They use K-9 self-propelled howitzers and already have a positive image of Korean-made weapons. Even if the price of the 2A7 is lowered to the $20 million level, the K-2 remains attractive. Krauss Mapai is pursuing excessive sales profits that go beyond common sense.

[@jonhaskins617]

A Leopard A27 is about $ 5.7 million USA A K2 is 7.5 USA. Do some research. Both can have TROPHY systems. Manual loading is faster in the west. And has beat auto for years. Training!!!

[@endjfcar]

@@jonhaskins617 That us old news. We have made so many K-2s domestically that the cost was lowered significantly.

[@Crisis7]

@@jonhaskins617 I believe it is the Leopard 2A7+ that they are offering which has a price range of 13-15 Million Euros. The cost for Norway to upgrade their 20+ year old Leopard 2A4 to 2A7+ standard would have costed more than buying a new 2A7+ or K2 Tank. Which is why Norway is having this trial, otherwise they would've just gone with upgrading to the Leopard.

[@benjamin-erlangen]

Norway is different from Poland, which has a wide plain. This is a mountainous area. When snow melts, it becomes a mud field. Plain tanks are not suitable for Norway.

[@kimttol]

70% of Korea's land is mountainous.

[@kapfazo]

I thought that Norway has a wide plain terrain. Good information. It seems quite aligned with Korean terrain. It's also mountainous

[@tor6372]

We need a tank good in rough off-road terrain , including deep snow and cold conditions. K2 use German transmission, so shouldn't be a major difference. Considering future upgrade packages, the safer choice is in my view to continue with Leopard, but I presume the choice comes down to unit cost and operational cost of the MBT really.

[@user-xw7ir6kt3r]

K2 정말 멋지다

[@jeriksson7686]

Har ni 40 år gamla vagnar idag?

[@henrikclausewitz8616]

Oppgraderte Tyske sridsvogner som skyter i fart. Har dere vagnar med roterende tårn? Ha ha....de de fitstim Svenson

[@heuhen]

De er nå oppgradert et par ganger, men det er en grense hvor mye du kan oppgradere

[@jeriksson7686]

@@heuhen ja så är det ju. Skönt med lite nya vagnar på gång då 👍

[@user-zl4gk8nl7b]

You don't need a luxury tank. Money will choose the best tank.

[@mrviking6892]

Eg hadde valgt Leoparden, pga lavere kostnad og sia det er ein fornyelse av leopard 2a4 som allerede er i bruk blir det mindre å venne seg til.

[@riverman83]

Norge har redan Leopard 2A4, skulle inte kalla dessa för omoderna direkt.

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

K2 is gorgeous in that splinter camo, i hope it win. Well, there are too many Leopard 2 around Norway so i think they will be better off with something more unique and different.

[@RoninTF2011]

"Well, there are too many Leopard 2 around Norway so i think they will be better off with something more unique and different." In what way? That you can use common training and spare parts....lol "uniqueness" is a shit "argument"

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

@@RoninTF2011 ???? Are you saying that Norway need to be relied on its neighborhoods for its training and spare parts ? That is a shit argument.

[@RoninTF2011]

@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf Its not an argument, it how logistics for complex systems work....

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

@@RoninTF2011 and by uniqness means if one day Norway has to fight someone that using Leopard 2 then their opponents will not be familar with the newer K2 and they can not predict its tactical advantage or disadvantage incomparison to a Leopard 2A7 which is pretty much shared the same strenght and weakness with any other Leo2 variants using by other countries.

[@RoninTF2011]

@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf lol...so an irrelevant point basicly in any war

[@user-qx5ql2hn2v]

K2 masterprise

[@jeffstrong4580]

These K2 tanks are fast low profile tanks like dachshunds with active protection system. Russian and Chinese tank crews will piss their pants facing against K2 tanks. S Korea has test video K2 hit by 120mm gun and able to survive. European version of K2 should be upgraded version of original K2 with more protection.

[@fireeyes20120002]

레오파드와 흑표의 주행 비교 영상을 보니, 흑표의 서스팬션이 상대적으로 좋아보이네요. 험지 주행에서 자체 흔들림이 적네요. 저러면 기동성도 당연히.........

[@flowwwwwwlwwww]

흑표가 레오파르트 보다 가볍다 보니까 그럴수 밖에 없는듯

[@spin2902]

@@flowwwwwwlwwww k2 ISU(In-arm Suspension Unit)

[@backtothefutuization]

가볍고 궤도 고무.

[@user-gx9hk8gt3k]

@@flowwwwwwlwwww 서스페션이 틀립니다. 이것도 기술 차이죠. 냉전시대에 개발한 전차를 새롭게 만들 생각 안하고 안일하게 적당히 개조나 하니까 레오파드 2가 저 지경이 된 겁니다. 130mm 로 주포가 업그레이드 예정되어 잇는데 레오파드 2는 공간이 적어서 포탑을 재설계를 해야 하고 K2 흑표는 이미 130mm 주포 업그레이드를 예상하고 포탑을 설계 했습니다. 이게 큰 차이점이 될 겁니다. 독일은 업그레이드 비용을 보잉 못지 않게 바가지 씌우기로 유명합니다. 전차 한대 가격이 450억인데 말 다했죠. 러시아 전차도 130mm로 업그레이드 계획 중입니다. 130mm는 수동 장전은 무리! 포탄이 너무 무거워서 사람들 들 수가 없어서 자동장전을 해야 합니다. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZisep-radBogqM

[@phDJANG-ge8me]

@@user-gx9hk8gt3k 국뽕채널 보셨구나? K2에 130mm탑재된다는거 국뽕에서만 도는 소문이에요 라인메탈에서 130mm 주포 개발은 했지만 너무 크고 무거워서 51구경장으로 줄인걸 철린저2에 얹어놓고 실험한게 전부입니다. L2A7은 그 크기때문에 개량작업 들어갔지만 K2는 개량소식이 없네요

[@dolezhang9265]

한국은 1인당 연간 수산물 섭취가 세계에서 가장 많은 나라입니다. 노르웨이는 연어와 고등어로 대금의 일부를 지불해도 됩니다.

[@He-jr2ow]

k2 win 🏆

[@haakonchristensen2880]

Begge ser bra ut. Måtte den beste vinne, ikke prislappen!

[@user-zc7wi1jm2f]

K2 win~👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@gracecho68754]

For their budget, K2 is the answer.

[@jPlanerv2]

No its not when K2 is more expensive

[@happydrawing7309]

@@jPlanerv2 K2 is the one third of the leo2

[@Alexa-hh8so]

Omg tanks are so sexy vehicles

[@daisy-eh9wh]

대한민국 밀덕들 한번씩 눈도장찍고가네!..,ㅋ.ㅋ

[@dirodora1310]

역시 노르웨이는 고등어 👍

[@kelifonium_5989]

Black 'Panther' and 'Panther'

[@pokjunam2163]

The most important point here is the cost of almost three times the cost of k2 tanks, which is not affordable not only in Norway but also anywhere in the world.Also, in Norway, where there are no troops, if you are not a foolish government and military official who can't afford the cost of maintaining the k2 operation, which is operated by only three people with manual loading and automatic loading. Of course, it's normal to choose k2 In addition, it has the advantage of being able to participate as a partner in many private projects of Hyundai Rotem It is also said that it produces there, but it is a good thing to be able to incorporate a lot of their technologies that benefit from many areas where independent operation is possible in spare parts or various problems The future upgrades to the 130mm shell at the price, and the subsequent military assistance, which appears to be a K2 no victory in Norway's military cooperation industry, are seen as a K2 no victory in every respect

[@nagmashot]

The K2 is the most expansive tank currently on sale world wide, more expansive than the Leo2 ;)

[@Captain_chaos010]

How can it be too expensive for an oil producing country? And all neighbors have Leopard, how can it benefit you to change? Finland, Sweden.Danmark, All have leopards. Good lock getting spare parts

[@hishot1078]

@@nagmashot Leo 2 is way more expensive as of 2022.

[@user-gx9hk8gt3k]

@@nagmashot Nein!

[@user-ce1de5cz3u]

@@nagmashot Leo2 is three times more expansive than K2.

[@amtec7236]

You could see the details about K2 with below kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6C7qn99eM2LfLM

[@taesukim79]

k2 흑표의 선전을 기대합니다.

[@wbyungw77]

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