Pressure Swivel Technique - Double-Bass Drumming Lesson

In this week's Q&A lesson at the Drum-Technique Academy Eugene Ryabchenko discussed the following topics:
- swivel technique
- pressure swivel technique
- heel toe double strokes
- open-close / push-pull technique
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[@drumtechniqueacademy]

You can watch the full video in the "lesson" section of the Drum-Technique Academy. Join our community here: www.drumtechniqueacademy.net

[@LimpBizkit999]

Eugene has coined a new phrase “pressure swivel” it should become a household name for drummers around the world.

[@victorsantana5060]

Amazing video.Eugene you're the best!! Thanks to both of you for those great videos

[@Heatherhigleydrums]

Do you think swivel or just plain ankle up and down causes more RSI type injuries? I imagine both may have their own issues, but not sure which would be worse lol

[@DanDirindon]

Sorry, I'm not an expert but others teachers says the swivel technique is based in releasing the pressure on the bass drumhead skin moving the foot right and left. No ankle movement. And the body weight must be shifted ahead to increase the base pressure. Another thing.

[@metaldrummer1977]

He seems like Eugene... only a lot thinner!

[@lancesanchez6166]

It's Eugene

[@LimpBizkit999]

@@lancesanchez6166 Yeah.. he’s aware of that he was being a smart ass.. looks like he did slim down a bit

[@Standwithheretics]

Shaved the beard haha

[@insertmetalusernamehere]

I read a comment from a drum teacher stating loose springs are the way to go for speed. I've only been playing 2 weeks. Would this be wise? I don't want to mess anything up. Striking from the middle of my pedal the beater is hitting my foot. I'm having lots of fun trying to learn this stuff. Samus sent me 😁

[@jamesjackson4210]

I had a lesson with Kai hahto and I was driving my foot down hard and pressing the beaters into the drum, so he basically took the springs off the pedals and got me to practice using the rebound of the bass drum and relaxing my calf muscle to let the pedal rebound back rather than relying on the springs, I think it was a good way of learning to fully relax your calf muscle on the release of the pedal stroke, although he uses a walking full leg motion on slow tempo stuff he uses just the calf on the faster double bass playing and is really relaxed with low spring tension.

[@angelobordin2623]

I personally use max tension and I go 270 singles and 290 heel toe. Max spring is really helpful for speed but it depends on your playing / technique. If you use loose spring you need exxxxtremely tight bass skin ... With tight spring and skin you can play fast easily (only bad thing is that you have to be used to the high spring tension ... It takes some week )

[@CorridorOfChameleons94]

Really loose springs seem to help me all around. Can't get use to the really tight springs no matter how many times I've tried.

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

since everyone cheats with triggers most just play as light as fast as they can. even with triggers tho i smash thr kit so hard it moves. its really up to you. i bet on a real kit it sounds way more awesome to actually hit it an it not sound like the pitter pat most kits put out. you can hear the pitter pat in most videos showing the kit. ive never heard that even when i play with trigger pedal an no drum. its just pure stomp the ground at that point.

[@insertmetalusernamehere]

@@ShawnJonesHellion I traded in the ekit for a Pearl double bass set up. Still working on double bass lol my right foot is OK I'm trying to get the left foot caught up.

[@insertmetalusernamehere]

Maybe I should be a vocalist instead... I'm producing Alex Terrible sounds while attempting these practices. The rage is real!

[@ave0828]

You need a good foot pedal to do the swivel on IMO. I have Tama Speed Cobras it works well on. Then I have a set of Mapex's for my practice pad and you can't do it without the foot board sliding side to side to the point if feels like you're going to break them.

[@No-gf2bd]

Hey, Marthyn Please, react to Estepario Siberiano

[@nicholaspaternostro5734]

Marthyn, do you recommend playing heel down on occasion to help strengthen the shins to work with ankle technique? Thanks

[@marlekskyggen3980]

Huch! Someone lost his weight...and/or his Beard.😱

[@michaelcm9283]

I think Marthyn Did A video about the differences between PushPull and OpenClose. I cant find this video in his channel.

[@brianwilson7928]

Great vid! The pedal settings suggested are more for advanced players using a specific type of pedal tho. Max spring tension and an extreme beater angle doesn’t work for all pedals.

[@Kisuke_urahara98]

Hablas mucho tocas poco

[@johnknight9150]

The thing you demonstrated with your hand as an example did two notes per side, which is how I play swivel -- two notes per side instead of one. Much better for the knees.

[@ハンマーリリー]

ヤバい！That's awesome. I'm motivated. I `ll stick it！

[@miked5487]

On axis pedals what spring tension would you use? Half way?

[@andreykarayvansky9549]

Щастя, здоров'я!

[@dakman9442]

I’m hoping whenever I place my order for the Czarcie Kopyto pedals I can start practicing the swivel technique. My current pedals feel very... sloppy when I do swivel, like the beater never hits the drum. Thank both of you for your contributions to learning techniques 🙏🤘🏼

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

🙏

[@brohan24]

You can practice it on even shitty pedals, trust me. It boils down to CONTROL. Try doing it slow first.

[@brohan24]

And by slow, I mean 180-190 bpm. It'll feel weird to swivel at those tempos at first, most likely due to a lack of coordination, but once it becomes second nature, you've had already developed a good foundation. It's extremely important to isolate both feet as well when starting out. Check out James Payne's stonekiller exercise for double bass. Extremely effective, at least for me.

[@konhoho8012]

@@brohan24 my pedals are Chinese crap swivel never really worked no matter what I tried but it helped me develop a better ankle technique you just gotta figure out how your body wants to breathe and how to work with your gear

[@brohan24]

@@konhoho8012 i practiced the swivel technique with locally-made, dirt-cheap crap Philippine pedals (Thank god i now have iron cobras). It's just one of those things you really have to dedicate a lot of time to. At least that's what I did. It's an unnatural movement, and can take months to even years to be comfortable with, depending on how efficient your practice is. Not forcing anyone to do it, tho. Just trying to say that no top-of-the line double bass pedal can magically make you good at the techique.

[@k-bo2738]

This might be a dumb question but can ankle motion and swivel be used on completely acoustic kits? I guess im asking if I would need to look into buying an e kit or triggers if i wanted to learn these techniques.

[@elierbonilla230]

Ankle swivel works better in acustic kit, gives more power. With pressure swivel you can go faster, but sacrifice a bit of power. Hope that this info answers your question.

[@k-bo2738]

@@elierbonilla230 it does thank you

[@BeBLACKBADBOY]

Shaving that beard off, was a mistake my friend

[@youtubesucks1885]

I believe this is the technique Aaron Kitcher uses

[@magnusolsen7283]

no he use ezdrummer :)

[@michaelcm9283]

Lord Aaron Kitcher use Cheetah Techniq. Not pressure Swivel.