Preventing Suffering and Engineering Paradise

[@fedrn]

I feel so fortunate being able to be witnessing all of this so early. You guys have a long way to go.

[@KyeColymore]

this was great as expected, much love and diversity for all of your unique lives :)) music to make, food to eat, friends to meet

[@gundulfguy2179]

Beautiful talk thank you

[@patodesudesu]

this is a wonderful introductory video to a bunch of interesting things

[@mpv9866]

Superb presentation, information and great links in the description! The world/collective really needs this... and more! Also, thanks for reminding me to use chanca piedra on a regular basis and not only when im being a 'human rock tumbler'. I've passed 100s of k stones over 40 years (they're congenital for me). I've developed quite the pain tolerance (meditation is quite helpful/useful) but also i feel my bladder, urethra, genital etc has scar tissue internally helping mitigate or reduce the pain some. Still, if you'd ever need a 'lab rat', I'm available and more than willing 🙏♾🥰

[@atg8677]

We are more than you might think. Stay positive and stay strong

[@NihilisticRealism]

that graph setup at the start is briliant, you are onto something

[@SantiagoItzcoatl]

thanks a lot for sharing the presentation.

[@danfaggella9452]

Go Andres go!

[@TravisTellsTruths]

I'm excited to watch this ❤

[@italogiardina8183]

Enchantment seems like a significant valance booster in all cultures of world religions. Though early modern scientific rationalism in general seems to undermine enchantment in the world. The disenchantment trap of science in general suggests spill over into valance research where uncovering all the principles of valance entails elimination of enchantment- primordial valances, leaving us (modernists) the only option to exist in a postmodern human condition that severs the primordial base valance by aligning with algorithmic valance and all that implies.

[@KyeColymore]

agreed this world is magical, lets fix it

[@italogiardina8183]

@ Agreed, fixed it, but it won’t necessarily involve us. So there’s that!

[@raresmircea]

Sorry for the long quote but i think relevant: Categorization vs Lived Experience, Abstraction vs Flesh From time to time i have something akin to the “madeleine moment”, highly significant feelings that never get past a few seconds in duration, but mostly just a flash. One particular aspect of these moments is that they present themselves as brief insights into the way i used to feel as a child or teenager. And compared to them my life now is like a sketch who outlived and replaced its full and vibrant subject. My intuition is that - even without depression or other afflictions - as we get old our brain’s complex dynamics are constantly defining attractors and widening basins of attraction. The child’s exotic landscape of mental exploration gets crisscrossed by beaten paths, paved roads and traffic restrictions. We’re usually focused on the outer expression of kids vs adults but everything is downstream from this inner shift - it’s our most intimate dynamics that goes from “play” to “work”. As a kid, listening to the radio resulted in a chain of wildly different universes as songs followed one another. Now in my late 30’s i have a more generic and well established experience of “listening to pop music” that suffers slight tweaks as the songs change. (…) Naming things is a source of disenchantment because in this way we pin things down, set borders on the ambiguous, we make mystery, diversity & fluctuation into something clear, belonging to basic categories & uneventful. And i think there is another related but subtly distinct way in which language can dispel the magic of life: explanation. Usually when the mind doesn’t have an abstract model for some aspect of nature - as is the case for kids, monks, but also adults - it fills that unknown with fascination and scintillating emotions & imaginings. The unknown gives freedom to the mind to manifest its spontaneity & creativity, to dance unconstrained, filling the void with its wild exotic movements. On the other hand a highly educated individual that’s thought-ridden has built a cage out of his mind that constrains his mind. Explanation is functionality but it’s also built on constraints -on the surface it gives us so much, yet underneath it also takes. As nebulous & unproductive my childish feelings were towards the world, their intensity and indescribable esthetic quality cannot ever be matched by holding abstract theory.

[@italogiardina8183]

@@raresmircea Ok, the madeleine moment as a byproduct to the Malthusian trap which correlates to the enchantment trap with an increase in automated Madeleine moments that would ensue exponentially once valence research has gained full access to AGI and eventually machine super intelligence that would lead to a decrease in primordial valance states.

[@purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr]

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[@armandop8353]

"I..uuh..I personally wouldn't go there just to not establish a precedent of uuhh INDUCING PAIN FOR ANY REASON" lol

[@user-yw9mw9hv8o]

"Benzodiazepine receptor" is funny to me. Benzos are positive allosteric modulators for the GABA receptor, a transmembrane chloride ion channel protein. Which is to say, they enhance the activity of the neurotransmitter GABA. The GABA system being the principal inhibitory system. With benzos binding, for the same concentration of GABA, that the receptor sees, chloride transport is increased, which affects the voltage across the cell membrane (see voltage gated channels) iirc. Just as a small aside, not that that level of information was neccessary here, but, alas i am just a chemist. ;)

[@Abc123tyuas]

no one cares shut ut annoying ass up

[@StaryUcet-x2g]

what is the function of chloride?

[@user-yw9mw9hv8o]

@@StaryUcet-x2g Chloride ions carry a negative charge. A gradient in the concentration of chloride ions, is thus a gradient in charge, i.e. voltage. I eluded to the class of voltage gated channels that i believe are affected by this above, but i'm not knowledgable about the details past that.

[@primalstate]

DOC "STP" is the best drug ever created, for the connoisseurs (I mean for people that are use to take 500mcg of lsd or more) I felt 2 months of bliss after one 4mg trip

[@NihilisticRealism]

intersubjective commonalities and familiarity is the basis for morality, and im glad you found your way there. the objective existence of our shared conditions. much better foundation then the open individualism of 'i care about you because you are me actually' which i see as a dishonest dodge that attempts to repurpose the neurology of selfishness for altruistic purposes- something i am in strong disagreement with.

[@KalebPeters99]

your points about logarithmic scales of experience and the relativity of baselines vs extremes has me thinking about the deep analogies with music theory... we hear musical pitches as being "the same distance apart", NOT when their frequencies are spaced linearly (the same number of hz away from each other), but when theyre spaced logarithmically (the same RATIO between frequencies) and we dont hear songs as being a particular sequence of frequencies, but a particular sequence of RELATIONSHIPS between those frequencies (i can sing "happy birthday" in many different keys, but its still the same song!) i think there is still a lot to be explored around the analogies of music to consciousness itself...

[@KalebPeters99]

woah now I'm getting to the section where you explicitly talk abt *harmony* as a key factor in high-valenced states (!!!) this is SUCH a fascinating area of inquiry for me, as someone who is both a jazz musician and an amateur consciousness/neuroscience/philosophy enthusiast lol thank you Andres (and crew) for so generously sharing your pioneering work, I think you're paving the way for the imminent/emerging paradigm shift 🙏

[@raph2550]

Around 7:10 you say that we can expect to move along the x axis fairly linearly yet possibly gain an exponential return. Basically you say we can have any yellow arrow for about the same amount of effort. But I don't understand why that would be the case. My fist guess would be that our effort would rather linearly scale with the real scale. For example, it seems to me that having someone go from -1 to +2 is easier achieved than having them go from +7 to +10 What is your explanation for this claim?

[@jedrekpawlowski9645]

Oh noo! No no no, it's N2O not NO2! You might have a dangerous typo in your presentation hahah

[@QualiaResearchInstitute]

Nice catch! We certainly don't want anyone using NO2 as an anesthetic as that would be really dangerous. Thankfully we're able to blur it out without taking down the video.

[@burnytech]

❤

[@FourCannonLorcana]

banger

[@MrSALVAMAGNO]

the glory aspect was a little bit weird

[@jirivesely5697]

Trust me you are not very conscious watch BenedictineTheTruth!!!!!!!!!

[@ChadKovac]

Attachment leads to suffering. 😊

[@StaryUcet-x2g]

TLDR?