Previewing Luke Fickell's Wisconsin Defense (The Origins of Cincinnati's 3-3-5 Defense)

[@paulehrke9586]

There is next to nothing which excites me more than a new TCP upload. Thank you for your effort and the awesome content you put out there!

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Glad to hear it! Making these videos is crazy fun for me.

[@nickflahive8903]

Love the effort in the videos man glad you could do a Wisconsin vid. If you could also do a Longo air raid at some point in the future that'd be great.

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

I'm definitely interested in Longo. I want to publish more this summer, so my hope is to do Longo as part of a pod with maybe the defenses at Notre Dame and Pitt.

[@only1murphh]

@@TheCoordinatorProjectplease do LONGOOOO

[@epicclips456]

This is probably the future of college football, definitely in the big 10. It’s easily adaptable to many different offenses and with the increasing amount of spread and air raid attacks in the big 10, this will be great

[@Theplaymaker1271]

This is great! As a Big Ten fan id love to see a Longo analysis, but also a Phil Parker breakdown cause those defenses might be the most fundamentally sound defenses in the country

[@majiinbuu4689]

I second a Phil Parker breakdown, if Iowa had a better offense more consistently they would be in the top fifteen every year and become a serious contender in the big ten they’re always good but they could be so much better.

[@krisdrew988]

Really great video! Appreciate the effort and research that went into this!

[@arrogantprickly]

Wow. This channel is criminally underviewed. This is the best football analysis I've seen. Keep it up. How about Phil Longo next?

[@sameichorn3757]

these videos deserve so much more attention. Keep up the good work!!!

[@dwpagliari]

18:38 I was waiting... Match Up Zone was the original version skewed more towards zone - the defender matches a WR in his zone area - passing off depending on his assignment. Whereas Match Zone = the defenders follow their WR all over the field based on assignment after pattern distribution...more towards m2m. Any match scheme is the unique balance between zone and m2m and can be done a lot of different ways skewed towards man or zone ..depending... Great early footage with your analysis. KU actually looked a little bit like a Match Coverage. It was definitely something cool by DAntonio, but the players screwed up their assignments. I could see why Saban would be interested., Of course DAntonio became famous with the Narduzzi Quarters which is really a Cover 4 Match Zone. BTW, Erhardt ran an early version of Pro PS (power spread) with the steelers. Very ahead of its time with personnel the way they used Kordell Stewart (slash).

[@TaxinGigs]

You're secondary better be able to open field tackle in a 3-3-5

[@larrychannell7056]

If you were that knowledgeable about it you would be coaching. Man I hate armchairs quarterbacks.

[@TaxinGigs]

@@larrychannell7056 me?

[@morganyu812]

​@@larrychannell7056Dude that's common sense. Please shut up

[@jimohler5593]

As a OSU fan and UC grad, this was one of my favorite videos! Thanks!

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Nice! I'd hoped that all of the Ohio-based football history would be interesting to non-Badgers as well.

[@dwpagliari]

Remember that Jon Heacock's (3-3 at Iowa St) bro is Jim. Jim Heacock was DC for a long time under Tressel after DAntonio then Snyder left. So not surprising that Fick went to this D. Plus Fick was always creative with his blitz packages and Defenses when he was allowed to be at OSU - which wasn't a lot. Also, Wisconsin's had 2 really good DMinds in Aranda then Leonhard, so Fick has to be up on all the really cool stuff Aranda runs vs Power Spread Offenses.

[@robdawgsports1060]

Love these videos as always, especially as someone who loves seeing the scheme of these different 3 down looks and their origins to today. Quick question, when I was think what to type up I was gonna call you coach, are you a coach rn? Because if not you break down the film like one!

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Thanks! I'm not a coach, but I try to bridge the gap between coaches and players with my videos, and it's great to hear that coaches like them. I go to Glazier clinics, watch a ton of clinic videos, read coaching books, etc., and fully chart a ton of games every year. I'm really just a scheme historian, though.

[@dwpagliari]

BTW, its a big misnomer - but Qtrs is NOT Cover 4. 26:20 - even the Withers off-Qtrs (not press) has aggressive Safeties. See where they are lined up. Almost parallel to the CBs. In traditional C4 (run long long ago) the Safeties are exactly what they are called -SAFEties.. in Quarters they are far more aggressive with thei ssignment to attack downhill immediately on any runs. Thus, the reason they can get burned on play action. (see 32:39 - simple pitch action - agg safety burned! - this happened to all the qtrs guys eventually - no matter how much talent) The brilliance of Qtrs is the balance to protect with a C4 Shell yet, have 2 of the 4 ready to crash down on the run. Better run support than traditional Cover 3. Better deep support than traditional C1, C2, C3. Notice who makes the tackle on the run from this less aggressive Withers Qtrs. The Safety, who crashed down hard!

[@PowerTGod]

Love your 3-3-5 video's bro but come on I need a video on Coach Gibson from NC State

[@morganyu812]

Hey Coordinator do you ever do NFL breakdowns?

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

I definitely will at some point. I know the college coaching trees a lot better, but there's.obviously a lot of schematic history that you can't get into without talking about the pros, so it'll happen.

[@morganyu812]

@@TheCoordinatorProject maybe if you're thinking about it you can start small. Like the pro coordinators philosophy in college first

[@MichaelJohnson-nn2kc]

Would it be asking to much if you did a video on how casual fans can know what to watch for during live games? Trying to watch the all 22 is difficult. Should i just focus on a certain position group?

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

This is an interesting idea. I could do a video on what I'm looking at and thinking about pre-snap when I watch games live. I'll try to write it around my normal breakdowns and see if it's something I can do fast.

[@MichaelJohnson-nn2kc]

@@TheCoordinatorProject sounds awesome!!! Thank you sir!!!

[@danemesser1576]

Hey man appreciate the awesome content. Where do you get your film?

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Through last season I just had a KZbin TV subscription and DVR'd every college football game, then screen-recorded whatever games I wanted to break down. This spring, though, KZbin TV did something that blacks out the video whenever a screen recorder is on, so I'm going to have to deal with that somehow. I'll sort that out closer to September, lol. For older games, there's a lot of stuff that's just up on KZbin itself.

[@danemesser1576]

@@TheCoordinatorProject I ran into the same problem with screen recording even with Hulu TV... What are you screen recording with looks way better than a phone?

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

@@danemesser1576 I just use the screen record function of Quicktime.

[@MichaelJohnson-nn2kc]

About time we got a new vid lol jk. Great content as always bud👍

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Hah, I know, right? Glad you liked it.

[@majiinbuu4689]

@The Coordinator Project can you do a breakdown on defensive coordinator (Iowa Hawkeyes) Phil Parker’s defensive scheme and how he’s able to generate turnovers with his defense.

[@slinkyrb3337]

Watched this video a couple times now. Makes me want a Joe Gillepsie video. He really helped turn around TCU. Matt House would be an interesting one as well

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

A few people have mentioned Matt House now, so that one's definitely in the rotation. I think my next swing of videos will deal with some SEC units, so I'll do LSU as one of the defenses that I look at.

[@Coach-Stein]

I don’t know how I just found your channel, if anyone if trying to learn meat and potatoes of football, this guy knows what he’s talking about. Also side note: Fickell hired former GVSU head coach Matt Mitchel to coach OLB and Special Teams Cordinator, from what I know too they are pretty close buddies. So maybe dive into some GVSU vs Ferris State (rivals and best team the played) film and see how they will take some of his schemes into the Big10.

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Thanks for the kind words. I'll have to look into Mitchell and see what the deal is. Those high-level FCS teams are always worth watching.

[@efficientmagazine1884]

Can you go over some LSU schemes?

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

I'll put it on the list! I want to look at the Alabama and FSU defenses, so I can do a Denbrock video as part of that sequence.

[@Donotdisturb946]

@@TheCoordinatorProject Would you mind going over what DC Matt house likes to run at LSU so far? Love the insight on your channel & I would be interested to see your perspective.

[@jaylyndunlap2011]

Could you please do Phil Longos offense for unc he’s moved to Wisconsin but I think he’s one of the best in the game

[@AndreKing4]

That’s Marcus Freeman’s Defense !!!!

[@tyressy01]

Can you do Illinois defense from last year??????

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

I'm definitely interested. I'll need to think about what offensive breakdowns would be interesting to pair it with (Michigan and...?).

[@tyressy01]

@@TheCoordinatorProject maybe Mississippi state , air raid

[@dwpagliari]

Withers was a quarters guy. BDavis - Wannstedt - started playing around with this. Unrelated were Mallory/Shafer/Narduzzi in another part of the country. The second group were more aggressive with their Qtrs as you detailed. Press Qtrs if you will. The problem w/ OSU's defense w/ Withers wasn't necessarily the type of scheme, but synching up with the players. As you showed - they were doing a lot more than qtrs. Mixing in a lot of blitz looks - maxing the box w/ C1 or C3 - Qtrs -- it was too much. Kids were out of position and hesitant. Really bad the first yr. A little better the 2nd. Ash came in as a pure qtrs guy. Learned from the second group. Maybe not as much blitzing and loaded boxes - but in Press Qtrs that isn't necessary as you pointed out. Problem w/ such aggressive safety play (which is opposite of pure C4 where safeties sit back deep) is it's so easy to get burned on Play Action and Mis Direction. All staples of the modern Pro and PS offenses. Now Qtrs is used for Variety but not as a base defense. It's just another type of Match Coverage for teams to use.

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

Do you have anything on the influences for Saban's Cover-7? In a podcast with Dante Bartee Coach Vass mentioned that he'd heard maybe Buddy Ryan/Jerry Glanville. Saban uses some tags/terminology in common with Buddy, but not always in the same way, and I haven't found a pure comparison for C7. Glanville barely had a playbook, so barring an interview with him or one of his coaches, a lot of the finer points of that defense are gone. Arnsparger says that he learned what he calls "Cover-8 Man" from Charlie Winner with the Colts (speaking of the Paul Brown > Weeb Ewbank defensive tree), and he describes it as a four-across Man coverage with the SAM taking the first to the Flat, and a bunch of different possibilities on the weakside. Very close to C7. Buddy worked for Ewbank and Walt Michaels with the Jets, so I'm wondering if there might be some kind of split-safety combination coverage that developed out of that coaching tree.

[@dwpagliari]

@@TheCoordinatorProject I have to look at this later but real quick. Most of what the nfl goofs are calling cover 2 is completely in error. It’s usually some sort of match. Everyone’s doing saban now. Cover 7 looks a lot like cover 2. But it involves all 7 (4x3) it was created for trips. You probably know this. Anyway. If these announcers did their research they’d know to look for the “steel trap” where the lbs are leveraging. It truly is a 7man zone. If it’s not 7 then it’s cover 6 or some sort of qtrs or 2Match which again morphs out of cover 2 after the pattern distribution. I’m so sick of these clowns who get paid so much for erroneous info. If I have to hear romo say double coverage of any of them say play-caller one more time I swear! 😂. Sorry for rant. I love cover 7. But guys like Slowik already figuring it out. I’ll get back to you. We really oughta put our heads together. In the offseason ..??

[@TheCoordinatorProject]

​@@dwpagliari The "double/triple" coverage comments are especially misleading. Commentors just mean "there are three guys around," but it gives the idea that the defense is literally triple covering one guy. Some of this is just that there's no consistent terminology though, right? Like, Cover-6 can be QQH, or a weak-rotated 3-deep, I've even seen a pro playbook with C6 as a Super-Rotated 2-Man played vs. Twins. In Gruden's Raiders playbook from the 90's C2 is Man-Free, and C7 is 2-Man! To cut across those terminology differences between coaches and keep a consistent language for myself when I'm breaking down lots of different teams I've always just treated C4 and C2 as macro-families of zone differentiated by who covers #2 to the Flat, and then within each macro-family you've got coverages running the whole spectrum from spot-drop to Man-Match, but no matter how you define it the borders are always fuzzy. Like, in Aranda's C4 package Hammer, Nail, and Red Hammer all have a different guy covering #2 out, but they're all organized as C4 checks depending on receiving surface, field position, and gameplan. I remember Herbstreit one time saying that if he even used a basic term like Cover-2, he'd have a producer in his ear telling him to stop and explain it. There are always people higher up making sure broadcasts don't go above the lowest common denominator, which might be good for business even though I hate it. It leaves me with a good niche to make videos in, though, so it's all good! And yeah, we should definitely be in touch. Off-season is when I get into all of the cooler projects, but I'm always reading stuff and going down different rabbit holes. I only started doing the history stuff for it's own sake in the last year or so, but I've built up a nice library. I based it almost completely on Bill Mountjoy's bibliography from the Jerry Campbell forum, so big thanks to coach for putting out that resource!

[@dwpagliari]

@@TheCoordinatorProject Yes. All you said is true. 🙌 At the same time - there are simple ways not to be misleading. Just say what you said. I know Romo means there’s a couple of guys around. But rarely is there pure dubs. I have video at my powerspread utube from last yrs playoffs. Chiefs did real dubs. Oh, I’m the powerspread commenter as well. I should really stick to that KZbin. I’m yelling about romo and I’m just as misleading. 😂 I also am just a big believe in keeping it simple. Your details are great. And accurate. But it’s just shells. Ways to handle the space. It was footballs movement from player ideal to space ideal. Pure cover 2 doesn’t work anymore. So all this combo zones and matches etc. And I would never say a c2 or c4 when it’s match. Qtrs is the c4 match but yes.. coaches and everyone has their own terminology. Sabans C5 is simply 1man with 5 man rush. Hilarious. But he has a reason for saying it that way. At my power spread site I always wanted to do my own glossary of terms. Simple. Commonality. For the public. There’s a lot I’ve wanted to do. I’m not working at it professionally suddenly an I’m good with money so I can finally start to do some of this. Btw, I love that you found Bill’s info at Jerry Campbell. Like I said I spoke to Bill several times. He’s all about Gillman but knows a TON going back to Neyland. Funny his last name is Mountjoy. He was a tough guy. But good guy. I always wanted to know how it all connected up. I didn’t want to hear Tiger Ellison got R&S from watching kids in the field. Did he speak to Gillman? DMeyer? Read his book? Etc. I wanted the connections the answers and obssessively researched and connected a lot over many yrs. But it would drive Bill nuts! He just liked that it worked. And knowing generally where it came from. He didn’t see the point and having to know definitively how it all connected. That’s why he’s a coach. And I’m a research guy.

[@PowerSpreadXO]

@@TheCoordinatorProject (its dwpagliari) - we both have different ideas on projects but could help each other - but I wonder if we could come up with a glossary of terms together to make a nice simple guide for fans to have a basic understanding of all this - with a little bit of background history. w/o the history it makes it harder to truly understand the concept. And the concept is the key to keeping it simple and easy to understand and see on the field. Again - just a thought...

[@rephillips56]

Can you do a review of Parker Fleming the Ohio State Football coach. His passive coaching style may be the reason Ohio State loses close games Bucknuts says: ** The Buckeyes ranked No. 87 (again, out of 130 teams) in the country in kickoff return average last season (19 yards per return). ** They ranked No. 61 in punt return average (8.3 ypr). ** They ranked No. 72 in kickoff return coverage (20.4 yards allowed per return). ** They ranked No. 66 in punt return coverage (7.1 yards per return). I am not being sarcastic here: Ohio State cannot say its goal is to be "Best In America" in all aspects of its football team and put up numbers like that. Just look at those statistics: Eighty-seventh in kickoff returns? Seventy-second in kick coverage? When your best unit among your return teams and coverage teams is ranked No. 61 in the country, you've got a problem.

[@Karmafirst]

It’s a 3-2-6 Dollar NFL been running this package