Atelier Ryza 2 How To Create a Perfect Armor Layered Velvet Best Armor

[@HornPlayer02]

Two things I noticed. 1. After the two Startiums and the waist cloth during the mimicry robe at 6:52 instead of putting in any puniball you can put in a Puni Leather for more stats. 2. At the final step the only thing you should do is use all your grand orgens (total of 41). You can rebuild everything hitting each bouns in item rebuild. My final robe was only level 42 and had more stats this way. This game is different from Ryza 1 in that you do NOT have to unlock the stats during initial build. You can open them during rebuild. Just make sure you use your essences at the final step before rebuild!

[@michaeljakeusman]

can you teach me how to carry over the traits? i have followed what he did and i cant seem to get it right. i already did put in 99crit 50attack 50def on the 1st item which is the cloth, but after the next item. the traits vanished.. it did left me with 50def trait.. so, any idea where i have done wrong?

[@YaminoKaze]

One thing I've noticed consistently missed in these guides: Yes, essence needs to be used during the initial synthesis, but...the loop you're using the essence on does not need to be "unlocked" to use the essence. So, in the case of the Layered Velvet, yes, still use the essence on the Lord's Glory and Reduce Damage loops. Then leave them alone until Item Rebuild, and pump all your quantity into Weise Cloth. (And as someone else mentioned, you can save a couple more with ES+2 Glass Flowers, which left me with 42 quantity when I got to the Layered Velvet). Also, traits I chose were HP Charge++, Defense Charge++, and Infinite Vigor. As someone else mentioned, the hybrid stat traits just don't give as much bang for your trait slot buck. I am, however, totally with you on the importance of speed, so my go-to item for reinforcing armor and accessories is actually Crystal Element. I believe that's better than the Cross Cartridges. At least, that's what I was seeing, not sure if the letter grade makes a difference (my Cartridges were only A rank).

[@Mucher696969]

Letter grade, quality, and as I just figured out, trait quality all matter for reinforcing stats. For the traits they need to be capable of raising the letter grade of an item individually. Basically the item needs traits that would make it S+ if grade would go above S. I tried using some heavenly string that was S rank, 999, but had quality+ lvl30, best quality, and quality lvl15, and they had less stats. I crafted a heavenly string with max attack++, defense++, and skill charge++, and then it showed the same gains as in his video. TLDR; trait quality matters not just hav8ng the trait maxed out.

[@michaeljakeusman]

can you teach me how to carry over the traits? i have followed what he did and i cant seem to get it right. i already did put in 99crit 50attack 50def on the 1st item which is the cloth, but after the next item. the traits vanished.. it did left me with 50def trait.. so, any idea where i have done wrong?

[@KingX]

Thanks for these guides and for pushing them out so quickly! I'm sure to make use of each and every one of them as I approach post-game and such - which I'd like to get on with sooner rather than later. On that note I'm inclined to request a little something to help us actually get there as being in England I won't be starting before tonight and I doubt I'll be making ultimate armour, etc in the first hour. If you could fit in a more early/mid game guide on something like... best way to craft 999 items soonest or something, that'd be fantastic! (I know you did an AR1 one, I don't know how adaptable that is for this game yet.)

[@Primalliquid92]

999 is now just a part of the game, you no longer lose quality during synthesis and as such you'll pretty much end up there naturally while going through. i do have a couple of early videos but because of the skill tree your kinda locked early without excessive grinding

[@KingX]

Thanks, yes as it turns out I used the tips in your AR1 video just fine, with this game's skill unlock system in mind. It makes for a nice SP farming method actually, I'm nearly done with the board before the 5th ruin. (One node is locked behind it.)

[@aaronkl]

You can use the glass crystal flower with spread 2 instead of spread 1 for more quantity during the fairy cloak recipe

[@ericktoso1585]

Any chance of a video of making perfect crafting materials like the cloths and ingots to help with this and future crafting?

[@Primalliquid92]

sure :)

[@ericktoso1585]

Thanks ☺️

[@Dominik-K]

@@Primalliquid92 that is very much appreciated 💛💙 Thanks in advance for the work💐

[@shadowmaster335]

One thing i noticed when going for the reinforcement part, apparently my clothes, yes the beginner ones gives me more stats than diamond strings (yes both was maxed out in everything)

[@cha0sr1pper]

i totally want to se an overpowered video for FF Tactics lol

[@Mucher696969]

I had replied this to someone but wanted it to be more accessible in the comments. Here is a better way to craft this armor for maximum stats. For the initial craft I'll try to type this as concise as possible...(assume any ingrediant I use is 999 quality and max when craftable) 1. Cloth - (Effect 1)Alchemy Fibers, (Quality)Blue Neutralizer (with ATK/DEF 40, DEF/SPD 40, and Infinite Vigor), (Traits)Heavenly String with effect spread +2, (Recipe Travelers Coat)Restraint Silk 2. Traveler's Coat - (Quality)Restraint Silk, (SPD)Restraint Silk (needs 3+ element to get spd+6), (Recipe Noble Tunic)Fluffy Wool 3. Noble Tunic - (Effect 1)Cloth, (Traits)Heavenly String, (DEF)Weise Cloth x2, (Recipe Leather Protector)Bestial Air 4. Leather Protector - (Quality)Animal Hide, (ATK)Animal Hide (needs 3+ element to get atk+6), (DEF)Weise Cloth x2, (Recipe Soldier's Cuirass)Rusted Sword 5. Soldier's Cuirass - (Traits)Dread Leather, (DEF)Weise Cloth x2, (Recipe Radiant Plate)Creaminea 6. Radiant Plate - (Effect 2)Samasten (purchased from store with atk+5, def+4, and effect spread +1 as described in the video), (Recipe Mimicry Robe)Puni Leather 7. Mimicry Robe - (Effect 1)Startium x2, (SPD)Weise Cloth x2, (Effect 1)Puni Leather, (Recipe Fairy Cloak)Dream Powder 8. Fairy Cloak - (Traits)Glass Flower (with effect spread +2), (Quality)Glass Flower (with effect spread +2), (Recipe Layered Velvet)Dread Leather 9. Layered Velvet - Activate Celestial Essence, (Effect 1 top right)Activate Fire Essence, (Effect 3 top left)Activate Wind Essence, (Traits bottom center)Philosopher's Stone, (DEF)Weise Cloth, (Effect 3 top left)Weise Cloth x34, (Choose Traits)ATK/DEF Charge 40, DEF/SPD Charge 40, and Infinite Vigor 10. Rebuild - (Quality top right)Ancient Philosopher's Stone x2, (Effect 4)Anything with lowest blue element value you have to maintain lowest final level possible, (Choose Traits)Same as step 9 11. Dennis's Workshop Reinforcement - Any 3 (Magical) items that are S grade, quality 999, and 3x 5 star max traits (each gives atk+2, def+43, and spd+40; I used Cross Cartridges but any magical category synthesis item will give the same), (Choose Traits)Same as step 9 The final product Layered Velvet stats... Lvl. 24 (maybe slightly higher) HP 369 ATK 406 DEF 935 SPD 741

[@MocharaidThree]

Thanks for this step-by-step breakdown, it was really helpful! :)

[@Mucher696969]

@@MocharaidThree You're welcome, glad you found it helpful!

[@MocharaidThree]

@@Mucher696969 I've been kinda hoping to see similar comments on all Primal's other Ryza 2 videos, not gonna lie xD

[@neroorion2759]

Can't you get max stats by reinforcing weapons and armors just like in Ryza? That way it doesn't really matter if some stats are having one or two points lower or higher, because you can reinforce them until they hit all stats 999. That's why stat traits aren't the best in the end, anyway.

[@comee5262]

Do you know where exactly I can get animal hide specifically with Elemental value 3?

[@KDSBestGameDev]

You say for the puni it doesn't matter at 6:57, but a puni leather gibes stats ;). Your second glass flower can have fire on it and spread over at 7:43 saves one item also.

[@MarkDavidBlack]

Just bought this game today. Oops what did I get myself into, lol.

[@pahtosh]

When you get the wrong traits on an item, you just need to rebuild it again, you don’t have to start all over again.

[@marianodabove882]

I dont know if someone or somebody happen with the DLC on Switch but the Glass Flower despite you put the Effect Add(Plants) in the sinthesys doesn't figure in any material you use i don't know if it is a bug or what but that screw some of the steps the creator mentions... Hope somebody told me if that is really a bug or what..

[@Dominik-K]

Thank you so much for those excellent video 💙 I'd like to speedrun it someday, time to gather information

[@khimaira7897]

Thanks you, btw you can do better, I noticed that this is not like ryza 1, ryza 2 armor stats from the board carry over to the next one!, managed to get: HP: 368 ATK: 399 DEF: 808 SPD: 695 before rebuild/forge

[@maguslucis]

since dread leather are a stat lost, over weise cloth, why not just incense the loop, and not put a dread leather in it, idk if u were aware but you can use incense on lock loop, and finish them in rebuild

[@Mucher696969]

To help new players not get confused, it's called "essence", not "incense". He's referring to the fact that nodes do not need to be unlocked to apply essences to them.

[@Makoto03]

I have a slightly off topic question but how do i access the 'KURKEN ISLAND GATHERING TOUR ' dlc? Its in the digital deluxe edition of the game and suppose to let us access areas from the first game. But i can't find how to go to them.

[@Primalliquid92]

i dont know as i dont have that dlc, probably an event after the first ruin would be my guess

[@Mina_Angel]

its a pre-order DLC from what I know. I currently have it. They'll probably release it for purchase.

[@yaroslavromanyuk5669]

My Layered Velvet: HP: 369 ATK: 406 DEF: 913 SPD: 726 I used the same traits, but 3 Cross Cartridges at Dennis', and used Weise Cloth to open vacant adjacent stat loops instead of just skipping them (titled DEF and SPD, not Effect 1).

[@Mucher696969]

On a side note it doesn't have to be Cross Cartridges, it can be any (Magical) item. Also, could you double check your numbers please? I did the same thing as you and ended up with... HP 369 ATK 406 DEF 914 SPD 723 I don't understand how I have 1 more DEF and 3 less SPD than yours since the DEF and SPD nodes go from +6 to +10. Any differences should be multiples of 3 or 4.

[@yaroslavromanyuk5669]

@@Mucher696969 Probably the difference between recrafting materials. If you have 4 more DEF on the original item, and my Cross Cartridges give +1 DEF and +1 SPD each compared to your items, that would be exactly -1 DEF and +3 SPD on my side. But now I'm curious about where I missed that 4 DEF.

[@Mucher696969]

@@yaroslavromanyuk5669 So I just went and recrafted, it was indeed something with the Cross Cartidges. In order to get max effect it needs to be S grade, quality 999, and have 3x 5 star max traits. I used HP++ lvl99, Defense Charge++ lvl50, and Speed Charge++ lvl50. This gives atk+2, def+43, and spd+40 each. For the initial craft I'll try to type this as concise as possible...(assume any ingrediant I use is 999 quality and max when craftable) 1. Cloth - (Effect 1)Alchemy Fibers, (Quality)Blue Neutralizer (with ATK/DEF 40, DEF/SPD 40, and Infinite Vigor), (Traits)Heavenly String with effect spread +2, (Recipe Travelers Coat)Restraint Silk 2. Traveler's Coat - (Quality)Restraint Silk, (SPD)Restraint Silk (needs 3+ element to get spd+6), (Recipe Noble Tunic)Fluffy Wool 3. Noble Tunic - (Effect 1)Cloth, (Traits)Heavenly String, (DEF)Weise Cloth x2, (Recipe Leather Protector)Bestial Air 4. Leather Protector - (Quality)Animal Hide, (ATK)Animal Hide (needs 3+ element to get atk+6), (DEF)Weise Cloth x2, (Recipe Soldier's Cuirass)Rusted Sword 5. Soldier's Cuirass - (Traits)Dread Leather, (DEF)Weise Cloth x2, (Recipe Radiant Plate)Creaminea 6. Radiant Plate - (Effect 2)Samasten (purchased from store with atk+5, def+4, and effect spread +1 as described in the video), (Recipe Mimicry Robe)Puni Leather 7. Mimicry Robe - (Effect 1)Startium x2, (SPD)Weise Cloth x2, (Effect 1)Puni Leather, (Recipe Fairy Cloak)Dream Powder 8. Fairy Cloak - (Traits)Glass Flower (with effect spread +2), (Quality)Glass Flower (with effect spread +2), (Recipe Layered Velvet)Dread Leather 9. Layered Velvet - Activate Celestial Essence, (Effect 1 top right)Activate Fire Essence, (Effect 3 top left)Activate Wind Essence, (Traits bottom center)Philosopher's Stone, (DEF)Weise Cloth, (Effect 3 top left)Weise Cloth x34, (Choose Traits)ATK/DEF Charge 40, DEF/SPD Charge 40, and Infinite Vigor 10. Rebuild - (Quality top right)Ancient Philosopher's Stone x2, (Effect 4)Anything with lowest blue element value you have to maintain lowest final level possible, (Choose Traits)Same as step 9 11. Dennis's Workshop Reinforcement - Any 3 (Magical) items that are S grade, quality 999, and 3x 5 star max traits, (Choose Traits)Same as step 9 The final product Layered Velvet stats... HP 369 ATK 406 DEF 935 SPD 741

[@yaroslavromanyuk5669]

@@Mucher696969 This is amazing. I have also remade my Velvet and here are the changes: 1. Radiant Plate - I replaced Samasten with Grand Orgen and Creaminea. I lost 1 Weise Cloth, but Grand Orgen is the same, only it gives ATK instead of DEF; and Creaminea is better that Samasten. My net total is -7 DEF, +6 ATK, +4 SPD, so +3 in stats. 2. I used Defense Charge++ instead of DEF/ATK because it gives 50 DEF instead of 20 DEF/20 ATK, but I actually made both. 3. My Cross Cartridge was worse than yours, despite me using 5-star traits. But my Spirit Bottles were slightly better (2 ATK/43 DEF/41 SPD), so I decided to play with traits and here is my best result: HP Charge++ 99, Critical ++ 99, Destructive++ 50 on a Spirit Bottle (or a Cross Cartridge) - it gives 2 ATK/45 DEF/43 SPD. The final results for the Defense Charge++ build: HP 369 ATK 392 DEF 964 SPD 754 The final results for the DEF/ATK Charge+ build: HP 369 ATK 412 DEF 934 SPD 754 In my opinion, it's time to stop now, because they will release DLC with new traits. But this was fun, thanks :)

[@Mucher696969]

@@yaroslavromanyuk5669 So I did some digging and found this spreadsheet... docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/159kcmw00HZKF0rs64hcSy-E4oAlP5CqDlJq3BlJfDUM/edit?usp=drivesdk If you go to the traits page and look through them, you will see that each trait has a hidden grade of its own. These seem to be values from 1 to 50. If you look closely you will see that traits with 5 stars in the guide have the highest grades but are not all the same. If we were to make spirit bittles, cross cartridges, etc. with 3 traits having grade 50 we could achieve even higher rebuild values. Looking through the traits you used vs. the traits I used, it is clear that yours have higher grade values! This is why your spirit bottles gave slightly more stats. It's a bit rediculous to me that the in-game guide uses star values instead of these numbers and is thus inherently misleading but either way props to you for discovering some higher grade traits! Edit: After looking through the trait values there seem to only be exactly 3 of them with 50 grade; Area Bonus++, Few Bonus++, and Stats Power. Edit 2: just tested Area Bonus++, Few Bonus++, and Stats Power on both the Cross Cartridge and Spirit Bottle (and even tested lvl 99 version) and they do Atk+2, Def+45, and Spd+42 which is worse than yours slightly. I think the spreadsheet has a bad grade value (listed as 50) for stats power which makes sense since it's only a 4 star in the guide. The next best option would be Healing++ which has a grade of 48. I will follow up with the results. Edit 3: Tested area bonus++, few bonus++, and healing ++. This results in a cross cartridge that offers atk+2, def+44, and spd+42 which is even worse than using stats power. Now I'm starting to believe that for the best possible combo it needs to be a 5 star trait with a high grade value and a high max level such as the lvl 99s (crit and hp) you used. Since HP and Crit are the only 2 with lvl99 max I am going to test with Healing++ which has a higher grade value than your Destructive++ (48 vs. your 41). I will report back. Edit 4: I did HP and Crit 99 with Healing++ 50 and still got atk+2, def+45, and spd+42. There must be something special about destruction++? I will try to get the spd+43 with destruction when I get a chance. Edit 5: It appears that the hidden grade values on traits are either irrelevant or not indicative of trait effectiveness regarding reinforcement with Dennis. What does seem to be an indicator, however, is the order that traits are presented in when finalizing a synthesis. I added tons of traits to the spirit bottle craft and, sure enough, Critical++ 99, HP Charge++ 99, and Destructive++ 50 were at the top 3 in the trait list when finalizing. By selecting them I was able to finally reproduce your results of 2, 45, and 43. In conclusion, I believe the only way to attempt finding any better combination would be to add every single trait then check if any appear in the trait list above crit, hp, or destructive in the synth finalization. If I get motivated enough I may compile a list of all possible traits in the order of what will affect reinforcement the most.

[@x6beelzebub9x71]

Any know if the adamantium scales and white order would be better to make or not? Not really sure but i may make them to see how high my stats can go up

[@David-ed8kx]

The guide was perfect. Except in 2 instances. 1: Your glass flower was effect spread +1 instead of +2 Your alchemy stone wasn't optimized either. This way you would have higher stats and minimum lvl requirements. All your other guides are really good though

[@tcsal]

Also to note, ATK and DEF charge at lvl 40 gives 20 ATK and 20 DEF. You might want to stick to something else like HP Charge ++ (99 HP) and DEF Charge ++ (50 DEF)

[@Mucher696969]

@@tcsal While doing hp and def gives 149 total stats instead of 80 total stats from atk/def and def/spd I think attack and speed is more important than 99 hp and 10 more def. Just my opinion though.

[@DeanT1993]

How did you get your cloths to 4? Mine wont go past 2 .

[@IltisJoe]

Does anyone know a way to get Animal Hide with 3 element value? Cant find any. Maxed the shop, fighting enemys or gathering. I always get some with just a value of 2. As long as i read correct, cant get them from seeds.

[@Primalliquid92]

buy them from a store or high level beast monsters have a chance to drop 3 element

[@IltisJoe]

@@Primalliquid92 Thanks for the replay man. Apprecaite your guides. I think then its back to hoping to get a lucky drop because since now, no shops (maxed out romy with animal prodcuts or any monster dropped it for me. always 1 or 2.

[@IltisJoe]

Just for anybody who have the same problem. I finnaly got a lot with 4 element value. Just max out Animla Products at romys and buy Animal products from here with gold coin exchange. Took me a long time, but finaly got a bunch with 4 elements.

[@yosht6110]

@@IltisJoe Jesus I’m a little late but thanks for this blessed comment!

[@IltisJoe]

@@yosht6110 No problem man, great i could help you with it.

[@Nixahma]

Ironically enough, even with DLC I'm pretty sure Layered Velvet is still more useful than the 3 new armor units solely because of the AP bonus.

[@Primalliquid92]

nah 2 of the new armors are technically better for min maxing damage but serve no real purpose in an actual fight, its more for the weasel damage contest

[@Nixahma]

@@Primalliquid92 yeah i meant that velvet is the best in terms of defensive properties

[@xneutralgodx]

Why not skip ko effect entirely and something different from blacksmith

[@ironysteeth]

Any update on best traits after dlc trait update?

[@blackjet8042]

Managed to optimize a few bits from the vid and got my OP Velvet, thank you very much!

[@MocharaidThree]

Do you mind telling me what you optimized?

[@blackjet8042]

@@MocharaidThree Sorry, I completely missed this, but it was a few things related to seed and puni leather from what I recall, let me check again and I'll come back again with more details.

[@Hayatekaizer]

How is that your heavenly string give +52 defense when quality the same, but mine only give +42? Since DLC for synthesis shouldn't be out yet. How?

[@Hayatekaizer]

Ps: I change the trait to be like your heavenly string, but at most only +49 def & +15 spd? What did you use or rather did you make it from the alchemy fiber to heavenly string, if it make any different?

[@Hayatekaizer]

But oh well the final product for some reason higher stats than yours somehow. Just aside the minor stats difference on yours heavenly string.

[@Mucher696969]

The grade needs to be S, the quality 999, and the traits need to be high quality traits. As an example, max attack++ will let a rebuild item give more stats than max attack+. For maximum rebuild effect, the item needs 3 traits each capable of raising the grade of the item by 1 during synthesis.

[@cirrhosas6214]

any particular way for getting animal hide with 3 element value ?

[@yaroslavromanyuk5669]

Romy sells animal products for gold coins, sometimes these are Animal Hides with 4 element value. Other than that - bird nests in late-game locations (should have 2-3 traits, can't say for sure).

[@richardtremblay1283]

From Romy's Coin Exchange. First, buy her bottom 3 offerings, whatever they are, so that she'll have to reload some new random items. Then go back to the Atelier and Save. Sleep once til morning and go see if Romy is now selling Animal Products as one of those bottom 3. If so, buy it and see if it's Animal Hide; it could also be something else, like Mythical Hide. If she doesn't have what you want, reload to sleep and try again; it's random each time. I got 7 Animal Hides with 4 element value this way. Only had to reload once.

[@allenofblacksteel9169]

dlc white order is the best.

[@Primalliquid92]

look at the upload date, all my ryza 2 stuff was uploaded LONG before the DLC came out

[@markmcdonald8646]

How is layered velvet recipe unlocked?

[@michaeljakeusman]

you need materials, mostly mats gained in the 2nd to the last dungeon

[@fernandociconato1885]

How do i get infinite vigor?

[@richardtremblay1283]

Infinite Vigor is a trait that comes on the Golem Core item. Golem Core is dropped by a few different enemies: Eternal Sculpture, a re-spawning Large enemy found in Water Spirit's Sanctuary; Boulder Soldier, another re-spawning Large enemy found in Southern Outskirts; and Noir Doll, a one-time Large enemy you must defeat to complete Mirage Land. Golem Core is an Ore-type item and can be used to make a Yellow Neutralizer, on which you can activate the effects: Add (Ore) & Add (General Goods) so you can spread the Infinite Vigor trait around a few different ways.

[@DavidRBrown7]

Incomprehensibe