NASA's Most Off Limits Room

[@primalspace]

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[@ActualJarrrk]

I'd want to be in it for a launch...

[@setituptoblowitup]

​@@ActualJarrrkme 2 F9 would still rock it🚀

[@stormcop55]

NASA should open this up as a tourist attraction!!!!

[@David_3bof]

nasa should make it a public place that people can go and see in there

[@ohasis8331]

Rent it to homeless people.

[@Billionblocks1]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy.

[@primalspace]

😂😂😂 classic.

[@kittyvlekkie]

Came here looking for this comment

[@kittyvlekkie]

Crazy?

[@L1te]

@@kittyvlekkie I was crazy once.

[@natc2940]

I was looking for this comment thank you 🐀🐁🐀🐁

[@christianturturro1937]

Imagine having a completely off limits water slide in your workplace. Truly heartbreaking.

[@thejman5552]

Forreal. Oops i replaced the water with wd40 hahaha

[@justsomeuser973]

@@thejman5552NOOOOOOO bro I’m dead that’s one way to go though

[@primalspace]

If I had any sort of clearance I would definitely be giving it a try ... even just once.

[@NicolaHilpert]

This is straight to the point

[@redoberon]

every man's dream

[@mweller9949]

The rubber room was not closed or inaccessible for years. There is both electrical and other reasons it needed to be opened from time to time for access related to pad maintenance. It was considered a confined space area and was kept locked up and had to be checked for appropriate O2 levels before entry. Once opened, it was not unusual to invite newer employees, with Pad Safety's blessing, to go see the room but then after whatever work was complete, Pad Safety would close the area back up. Ex Pad Elec Engineer.

[@chimeraproject9481]

Question, in the realistic scenario of a explosion, would this plan actually save life? Realistically, not theoretical, not hyperbolic. Thank you

[@TheGoodMorty]

​@@chimeraproject9481you're asking a hypothetical question and telling them not to answer in theoretic terms. lmao what else would they base speculation on?

[@Tasarran]

@@chimeraproject9481 Given the history of rocket accidents, there doesn't seem to be enough warning of an explosion for this to ever have been realistic. When they go boom, they go boom quick. If there's a problem where something is on some kind of slow build, something can be done to shut it down, either fixing or aborting.

[@KeeepOut]

I was coming here to say this as well. I've been in the rubber room, inside the vault in there as well. The seats are huge!

[@thatfunkyduck]

Important question: did they get to use the slide?

[@gubx42]

The scale of the Apollo mission was so insane. They built a one of a kind bunker that by itself would be a major project, for just a small chance of saving a few people in the unlikely scenario of an explosion where they have enough time to slide down a chute, but not enough to just drive away.

[@clazem971]

when they say they tried to think of everything, they meant it

[@antonimalachowski5262]

Totally. You should keep in mind this was the era of peak greatness for the USA, when the coffers were full. It allowed a great many fantastic projects to be funded; by fantastic I mean astounding and incredible, but also not entirely founded in reality. I seriously doubt anyone would have survived in there if the rocket exploded overhead. I'm guessing that the bureaucrats were just trying to keep their assess covered in case of an accident, so rubber bunker it was.

[@theawfullest]

It also acts as a bit of safety theater for the public, so they knew that NASA spared no expense and was doing something incredible. Like, come on. A water slide? There's a reason we have footage of people going down that slide to the rubber room. It's a piece of the marketing as much as a safety feature.

[@Lunatik21]

Thank you for writing my thoughts as well

[@arturocevallossoto5203]

Also, one explosion had the possibility of killing a lot of very hard to replace people. Though, I think it was also a marketing stunt to make it more appealable to people, whom the vast majority would have never heard of outer space before.

[@saltraker9652]

This is the first time I ever heard of this bunker. Kudos to you for bringing it to the world. Should definitely be part of a historic tour.

[@primalspace]

Thank you so much! So glad that you enjoyed the content. And I agree. Good luck in the giveaway!

[@1247.cccccc]

NASA is too ignorant to want to turn a profit. They have locked up their history to save money on maintenance.

[@lynnmize89]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ6ldIWpn79maZo Actual video of bunker

[@TaaviBAV]

only if we get to slide down the Slide. Twice.

[@brankenmason8463]

me too

[@DevinDTV]

the engineering lengths they went to to protect the crew any way they could is impressive

[@Diukaz]

While the soviets were saying: N-1 exploded? Alot of people died? Skill issue for them. ( not sure if this is accurate)

[@benharris599]

Everything but a launch abort system

[@Astro_Error]

I’m guessing after Apollo 1 safety and preparation for emergencies became pretty important.

[@TheWorstBridger]

​@@benharris599there's a launch abort system you ok?

[@x808drifter]

@@TheWorstBridger Yeah, was gonna say. It's literally that thing at the top of the whole assembly.

[@Shaggyshag10]

Coolest thing about that room that I learned is you can actually burn something to create oxygen instead of usually how burning things produce smoke and bad stuff.

[@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120]

Oxygen candles are standard issue for modern airplanes, where do you think the emergency air for the dangling mask comes from?

[@KentGoSuzuki]

@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120oxygen tanks?

[@WackoMcGoose]

I believe they also use oxygen candles on the ISS, at least as a backup.

[@suleymanthetufekci]

@@KentGoSuzukiNo. only pilots have their own oxygen tanks next to them and cabin crew has a couple in the cabin. All the passengers have oxygen generators above them because it’s much lighter than tanks.

[@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120]

@@KentGoSuzuki That is dumb, oxygen tanks would need to be pressurized and be heavy, which would cut into profits, go to school

[@KitsuBrie]

that slide looked like a lot of fun minus the potential of crashing into the wall at the end

[@SpandexMovie1]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, the rubber room, the rubber room for rocket explosions, and rocket explosions make me crazy.

[@Billionblocks1]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy.

[@primalspace]

😂😂😂😂

[@UNNYANEMPEROR38]

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[@Dr_Andracca]

​@@UNNYANEMPEROR38 "I am Talenel'Elin, Herald of War. The time of the Return, the Desolation, is near at hand. We must prepare. You will have forgotten much, following the destruction of the times past. Kalak will teach you to cast bronze, if you have forgotten this. We will Soulcast blocks of metal directly for you. I wish we could teach you steel, but casting is so much easier than forging, and you must have something we can produce quickly. Your stone tools will not serve against what is to come. Vedel can train your surgeons, and Jezrien . . . he will teach you leadership. So much is lost between Returns . . . I will train your soldiers. We should have time. Ishar keeps talking about a way to keep information from being lost following Desolations. And you have discovered something unexpected. We will use that. Surgebinders to act as guardians . . . Knights . . . The coming days will be difficult, but with training, humanity will survive. You must bring me to your leaders. The other Heralds should join us soon. ” -Talenel'Elin

[@user-pj4yc5tq4k]

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[@flyswryan]

This was used for the shuttle program, and all shuttle crew were trained how to use it, as well as the cable car escape system located on the backside of the same level as the Orbiter Access Arm. We never referred to it as the bunker, however. It was called the round room. There was no slide between the Mobile Launch Platform and the hatched opening on the deck for the Orbiter program. One would have to run to it, open the hatch and jump in, the last in shutting and latching the door behind. During conversion of the pads (LC39A & B) from Saturns to Orbiters, the whole escape system was accessible to anyone who could get on the pad and knew about it. It was a long walk/jog down that tunnel, but it was well lit with caged bulbs in the ceiling about every 50’. I was an engineer on LC39B (B pad) during its final phase of refit, working with Sauer, the prime; then the TTV phase, working with BSI, the prime; then went over to LSOC (after the turnover ceremony that was heavily influenced by wild pigs). Our first launch was Challenger. The top of the slide had a hinged and latched hatch then. It may have been decided as part of the Challenger investigation to later weld a plate over it and rely solely on the cable slides. The Challenger crew did practice opening the hatch and sliding down into the rubber room, with several practicing closing the hatch behind. They also practiced sliding the cars down the cables to get an idea of how they worked and how the drag chains slowed them down at the bottom, getting out of the cars, and running to the end of the tunnel, then running up inside the tunnel to the round room and strapping in. None of it seemed very practical, but it was one of many contingency plans. During a launch, nobody but the flight crew was within three miles of the pad. Launch control had to mitigate problems remotely, shutting fuel valves, disconnecting electrical circuts, moving arms and umbilical units, etc. The crew was on their own, and not every abort scenario involved an unforeseen explosion, so NASA did what it could to provide the crew with exit strategies. When compared to the Orbiter's barber pole escape plan, this one seems pretty reasonable.

[@thebeasters]

You'd think in a catastrophic event no one would have all this time to get down there and seal it, especially a few dozen people

[@flyswryan]

It would depend on the situation. If it was a fuel leak or a structural failure prior to ignition, or an electrical fire, they’d have time to get into “scape suits,” get down off the tower, and bail down the slide. These activities are all rehearsed by the astronauts and the fueling crews.

[@joe92]

This wasn't used for the Shuttle program. The tube opening on the pad surface had a plate welded over it. The only access was through the ECS duct out at the pad perimeter. Only the slidewire and its associated bunker were used for Shuttle.

[@chimeraproject9481]

How slow does the explosion have to be for the plan to actually work in a realistic manner?

[@sydneymyers1281]

@@mweller9949 you are correct. I work in the NASA safety office and was involved with most of the pad demolition and upgrades for ARTEMIS. The Openings were welded shut and are still in place when I left KSC in 2014.

[@EphaGMS]

I think the bunker would be a really cool part of the expanded tours they offer at KSC. If there's no SpaceX launch, the tours I think would be worth the extra price for the special experience

[@kotaowens6978]

Museum!

[@croscoe333]

Man, I just want to go down the slide. 😊

[@lyricbread]

Agreed!

[@UziDoormanMD]

Yes I love KFC

[@h8GW]

@@kotaowens6978 Space theme park! Especially the slide!

[@theilluminatist4131]

NASA could add the Rubber Room Bunker as a "Special Tour" for visitors to KSC. NASA could also transition this facility into a Simulation Facility to study the effects of isolation for long duration space missions to MARS and beyond!🙂

[@jameshogge]

I love hearing about all the lesser-known preparations NASA made for the Apollo program. It really does put in perspective how big an achievement it was. Even if they never open up areas like this to the public, I'd love for them to do some video tours.

[@ralexcraft990]

@tdyr170what?

[@professorcryogen6419]

@tdyr170 Oh you're one of those people.

[@ShatterIsMyName]

@tdyr170ou live in a bubble and deny all other evidence as fake. You’re a sheep, you just dont know it cuz you’re a hipster sheep.

[@cwj2733]

@tdyr170please explain what the hell this means.

[@bkh5746]

In the room where they discussed faking the moon landing😂

[@meanderinoranges]

I can't imagine a scenario where the crew found out an explosion was imminent, yet still had time to get to that room and close the blast door. Seems like a fortune spent on a one-in-a-million failure mode.

[@shanew7361]

I agree

[@MrJoelDavies]

I thought this too. Like, an explosion is imminent, assuming that somehow they are given warning. Even with the slide, that’s a long way to go while racing against a clock that doesn’t even have a specified count down. But I guess it’s nice to dream and feel safe. But my best guess would be that they all die trying to get there

[@gnualmafuerte]

That room, as well as many other safety features NASA had, where basically just placebos. At some point, a politician or journalist would ask "And what would happen if", and NASA couldn't say "then they're screwed", specially not after the Apollo 1 fire, so they would point to this ridiculous systems. The same goes for some of the abort modes on Shuttle, for example. It's just politics, there is absolutely no realistic scenario in which this could ever save anyone. You could clearly see this kind of thing at work a few days ago when the submersible titan disappeared. Everyone that knows absolutely anything about physics or engineering, or anyone with a bit of common sense and general knowledge, knew that they where all dead. What are the odds that the submersible would lose communications and navigation at the same time, all while also being somehow trapped in some debris that prevented them from blowing the ballast and heading to the surface? Zero. And yet, the media spent days talking about their oxygen supply, while everyone mounted a big pantomime of a rescue operation.

[@Darkk6969]

It's better than nothing given those odds. What if by some miracle the explosion was delayed long enough for the crew to get to safety? I rather see astronauts have some hope vs none at all.

[@meanderinoranges]

@@Darkk6969 no rocket has ever exploded in a manner that could've taken advantage of this kind of safety system. You don't go putting a parachute on all cars just in case one drives into the Grand Canyon. There are certain failure modes that are so rare that there's no point in protecting from them.

[@davinmetcalf704]

The minds behind this bunker were incredible, and it’s wild to see the lengths they went through to protect the crew under different circumstances

[@codingvio7383]

But didn't consider the water building up at the bottom.

[@zoogeographic396]

Sure😑… a giant water slide that breaks bones and 1 toilet for 20 people in the same room truly had some “incredible minds behind it” 😐. The design is silly and I’m pretty sure they were trolling when they made this.

[@EYes-zy6my]

Liars.. All of nasa are liars

[@Mike-hu3pp]

​@@zoogeographic396Guys weren't so soft then. A lot of astronauts were former military. This would be paradise compared to a POW camp. The toilet is fine and a luxury. A few broken bones are better than death.

[@Michigander_of_the_West]

@@zoogeographic396Ignorance is bliss for you isn’t it?

[@donzagamingofficial8902]

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[@primalspace]

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[@ebenenspinne4713]

I really think more people should know about this and become less fixated on reckless approaches for missions like Oceangate. This is a very good example that even on missions where the site would be abandoned after the mission, building precautions like this is necessary and the right thing to do.

[@r7calvin]

Improving safety through education usually involves both examples and counter-examples. Accident case studies can be very valuable for training.

[@Sov_spoiled]

Yeah, it’s pretty crazy that this happened

[@OmenKito]

@@Sov_spoiledcrazy?

[@randybaumery-u5r]

OceanGate was a lack of respect for Natural forces. Pure and simple.

[@Meatball2022]

It’s a facade. Window dressing. In the event of an actual emergency, ain’t nobody got time to get there. Some might have to walk up 2 flights of stairs. Then slide down. Then enter a room. And not close the door until everyone arrives. It’ll never happen It’s there purely to give the impression that it’s there just in case.

[@lsedge7280]

If they could slightly improve the safety for the slide, it'd be amazing to preserve the bunker as an exhibit/museum while allowing the slide to be in use as well.

[@primalspace]

That would be pretty cool. I would love to give that improved slide a go!

[@ronaldtreitner1460]

all they'd have to do was put some thick padding at the end and we have a safe slide.

[@jackwosullivan]

The problem with that is that Launch Complex 39A is leased to SpaceX who use it for their launches and 39B is used by the Artemis program.

[@alexsis1778]

@@ronaldtreitner1460 A 60m long slide that is lubricated by a water sprinkler is going to need a lot more than some thick padding. They pretty clearly had at least some padding yet someone broke bones. Would probably make more sense to have a drain for the water combined with a slight upwards slope beyond the drain so that the water would pool in the right spot. They probably just didn't do it because a drain would be another path for a shockwave to ingress into the facility. Although they could have potentially had the drain connected to a sealed tank.

[@KekeeBlack]

@@alexsis1778Those are good ideas! I was thinking they could use an inflatable bag (constantly inflating like a bouncy house for kids) or some 3' long springs behind a generously padded board.

[@mumiemonstret]

Imagine barely escaping a catastrophe including rocket fuel, entering a confined space with limited oxygen supply, and the first thing on your mind is that you have to take a smoke. (6:07) Those were the days.

[@RuralTowner]

Seeing the mention of the type of rations I immediately thought of Steve1989

[@DavidKMartin]

The smokes were there because they were prepackaged military rations. While smoking was common then, I'm sure no one at NASA was of the opinion that crew trapped in the bunker with no external supply of oxygen would or should be smoking in it.

[@AnonyMous-pi9zm]

It's gotta be pretty good for morale when you are trapped in a room waiting for NASA to dig down to rescue you, waiting for days, it would be a welcome escape to light up a smoke and just chill for a few minutes.

[@TexasCat99]

@@DavidKMartin Uh... yeah, they would smoke'm.

[@primalspace]

Haha yeah it was definitely a different era.

[@Why_not1101]

Nasa should turn it into a museum of space history

[@povertyspec9651]

It's still there for use at Pads 39A and 39B.

[@Xhadp]

One of the more better restricted room stories I’ve seen since there is actually a unique reason to keep it restricted due to its depth and possible usage rather than the usual spy or trade secrets that causes a room to be restricted.

[@frednugent2310]

As a mechanical engineer I very much appreciate this video. I grew up during the 70s and 80s and was a space nutt. I never knew or heard of the rubber room. Just when I thought I'd learned everything about NASA and the space programs between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Awsome presentation

[@heh_boaner]

"The bunker was never used" I imagine a problem that's catastrophic enough to explode the entire rocket, but safe enough in that anyone had enough time to actually get in the bunker, would be extremely rare.

[@Erizo_]

indeed it is, indeed it does.

[@The_Mantis]

omg hi niko

[@longcomvu2918]

hollywood would love that kind of senario to make a movie

[@Kazako83]

@@Erizo_Glad to see the council of Niko confers.

[@NK-qn6pq]

A fuel leak or fire. Which wouldn't cause it to explode immediately but it wouldn't take long!

[@stormcop55]

NASA should open this up for a tourist attraction!!!

[@OhioBallMapping]

People are maybe gonna break it tho

[@jnhkx]

its literally under the active launchpad so I don't think they gonna let anyone in haha

[@shanew7361]

Especially since we paid for it with our tax dollars lol

[@duramirez]

I can already hear the complaints when Fat people try to go inside and get stuck in the narrow corridors 🙂

[@Swifty_OneX]

I don’t want to meet the animals living down there

[@Gera-N-Silas]

I would love to go through the whole thing. From down the slide to the long dark walk. Just getting a chance to see the history our world at that time was doing is just super amazing. I don’t think enough people understand or appreciate what all was done back then.

[@CaptainSpycrab]

It'd make a half decent theme park ride, from the sounds of it.

[@awesomenessx15]

IT'S THE RUBBER ROOM WITH THE RATS! I WASN'T CRAZY AFTER ALL!!

[@zumair6957]

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[@thundergamergd]

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[@hawksipracing4357]

My father tested this room and the breathing apparatus after it was built. It was shown and described in Life magazine. Sadly he passed away last week.

[@Perfectheart-fan-girl]

my condolences

[@robsimpson3402]

Condolences.

[@jaimeenotjamie]

I’m sorry for your loss.

[@Arc_5]

i really hope someone doesnt reply to this comment in an extremely disrespectful way this time

[@derp8575]

How many bereaved comments are there on this video?@@Arc_5

[@alexandrevachez3294]

NASA could probably recreate the bunker at KSC’s visitor complex and recreate the slide as well (or make a smaller one). They could recreate the experience of sliding down to escape the launchpad area and allow visitors to discover the “life inside the bunker” which could be awesome as it would mix the fun aspect and the historical safety aspect of LC39A and Apollo missions.

[@primalspace]

That would actually be a pretty great experience. I know that I would check it out for sure. Thank you for your comment and good luck in the giveaway.

[@prenimystic]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They put me in a room-

[@primalspace]

... a rubber room?

[@cryofist]

@@primalspace a rubber room with rats

[@Gr33nStr1ng]

the rats made me crazy...@@cryofist

[@strongside5301]

@@Gr33nStr1ng crazy ?

[@kukyo_xela4755]

​@@strongside5301I was crazy once...

[@michaelfalkenstein73]

It would be cool to turn it in to a NASA time capsule of sorts. The room is built to survive an intense environment, and could be converted to an awesome time capsule.

[@stevecooper2873]

It's below grade, and likely below sea level. Vid mentions critters invading. I don't hold out a lot of hope for it surviving long term.

[@leonardosantuario3346]

Why tf would they do that? Are you 12?

[@michaelfalkenstein73]

@leonardosantuario3346 do you have a better idea? Or are you just here to talk trash on people's comments? Way to really add to the discussion. Also I like you fantastically childish insult.

[@michaelfalkenstein73]

@stevecooper2873 yeah that's a good point.

[@leonardosantuario3346]

@@michaelfalkenstein73 You're a child at the adult table, go back to the kiddy table. The adults are talking.

[@mikehindson-evans159]

Fascinating to see Tom Stafford and Eugene Cernan during what was obviously a practice session down in the hole. When we did the Pad 39 tour in 2013 (we were able to get into the flame pit because the pad was being refurbed for Space-X or the competitor), the "survival room" was mentioned. The KSC guide mentioned the expectation that the pad might take two weeks (14 days) to cool down after a fully-fuelled Saturn-V blew up on the pad. We also have the evidence of what DID happen in the Soviet Union at Baikonur Cosmodrome, when one of their N-1 competitors to the Saturn-V did actually blow up on the pad.

[@HO-bndk]

John Young is there too.

[@krisztiankokuti2166]

Imagine being locked in a rubber room like this, crazy. Crazy?!

[@OmegaSpaghetti]

I was crazy once

[@n9bptv947]

they locked me in a room @@OmegaSpaghetti

[@Angrylemon-imachillperson]

@@n9bptv947a rubber room

[@ArchermanRyan]

@@n9bptv947 A rubber room

[@Some_Random_Dude39]

A rubber room

[@jimdeans6540]

This. Would be a great addition to a tour of the launchpad. So much history that would be lost forever

[@primalspace]

Agreed. I would love to check it out in person.

[@ToddPrince-f2t]

I'm actually surprised they haven't made a tour of this. Not the slide of course, but taking everyone through the both escape routes, this would be a bit claustrophobic, but seeing how far down NASA had to prepare...just in case, is amazing and something i would pay to see.

[@billyhomeyer7414]

The water slide would be the best part!

[@buttoneyemrt491]

I hope there aren't rats there. Rats make me crazy.

[@primalspace]

😂😂😂

[@BenjaminSchmoll-n4q]

You're a riggitty rat ratso😮

[@arendmelby5106]

It's a strange feeling to realize something like this exists, and then learn everything about it within 5 minutes... and then think of how long this took to plan and build. I also want to chat with the slide tester. There must be a slide tester, unless its just a bag of extra potatoes Matt Damon grew years ago in the future.

[@crusher9z9]

Its a crazy feeling. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rockets. And rockets make me crazy.

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

Elon Musk thought this was a waste of money. He just gave everyone a blindfold.

[@Bananas6439]

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[@kitsumyr9752]

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[@the_untitled__]

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[@primalspace]

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[@lawabidingcitizen5153]

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[@adameastman2826]

Scrolled for this comment. Surprised it was so far down

[@orchardofbread]

Wow, the ingenuity for that bunker is incredible! I'd be worried that its disrepair would pose danger to anyone going in, and its age doesn't make renovation much worth the cost, so probably worth leaving it alone. But a (less catastrophically-prepared) replica would be awesome to experience at a museum!

[@kevrides5706]

I’ve never heard of this bunker existing before your video- very cool! I’d love to see it recreated at the Air & Space Museum in DC.

[@primalspace]

So glad you were able to learn about something new today, and glad you enjoyed the video! I would love to see something like that as well. Would definitely go check it out. Thank you for your comment and good luck in the giveaway!

[@maxrosing8246]

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[@primalspace]

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[@thisisnotisaac983]

Thing is, the launch pad is so big, how does the crew make it to the slide in time when an explosion happens? Or how do they know there's a looming threat of an explosion?

[@ronindebeatrice]

They wouldn't,but it's nice to believe you have a plan.

[@syberphish]

Why are you so set on ONLY an explosion happening???

[@SqualingtonConstantine]

@@syberphish Uhhh, OP's fixated on explosions probably because there's multiple things to indicate that the Rubber Room is built to withstand explosions? Its location... The room's shape... Blast-proof doors... Ya know???

[@syberphish]

@@SqualingtonConstantine a myopic viewpoint

[@syberphish]

@@SqualingtonConstantine Except rocket explosions aren't usually slow enough that you know something is gonna happen and have time to get all the way down to the pad to hit the slide. So, while they may have made it with those things in mind as a LAST RESORT.... there are still myriad other problems that can go wrong on a launch pad besides outright explosions. By it's nature, because it can handle the supposed worst explosion that would have been thrown at it, that's just it's highest level of defense. It doesn't mean it isn't capable of being used if there's an electrical fire, component malfunction or otherwise. They don't say "wait, you can't use the bunker because this is just a fire and isn't likely to cause an explosion! That is ONLY for explosions!" Discussing how it can protect from an explosion is of far more dramatic value for an audience than explaining how they'd use the same apparatus to escape ...a massive oil leak, fire, or other less-substantive situation. That doesn't mean that explosions are it's ONLY purpose. That would be just silly, and as you said he's "fixated" on it. Most people who're fixated on one thing already aren't seeing the bigger picture. You can respond with your continuing sarcasm, or you could stop acting like a child. Up to you. Doesn't bother me at all, I'll respond to it just the same; but in the one situation you won't be shown for the fool you're being due to your willful ignorance... it'll just be a conversation.

[@leogrievous]

I like the smiles of the engineers faces after testing the slide. It must have been really fun using it. (Unless there was actually an emergency going on)

[@noahsomean]

I think they should do a memorial of all the Apollo missions, and open it as a museum that people would learn what sacrifices they made, especially Apollo 1. Great video as always 👍

[@primalspace]

A great use of the space. Thank you for sharing! So glad you enjoyed the video. Good luck in the giveaway!

[@noahsomean]

@@primalspace Thank you!

[@veramae4098]

Apollo 1 was actually the second Apollo 1 capsule. One was delivered and it was so poorly made NASA took just one look and sent it back with a lot of caustic remarks. God darn it. In "The Right Stuff" which I just read this year, the astronauts were all sent on PR tours, and at a factory the astronaut had run out of things to say. So he just said "Make it right." The factory crew erupted with cheers and it became a motto, huge banners, posters, etc. Sometimes a few words at the right moment changes everything. At the Battle of Trafalgar, just before the English and French fleets began their fight, Admiral Nelson sent the words "England expects every man to do his duty." The sailors came alive with fierce dedication.

[@xoshelbz]

This should DEFINITELY become a museum. Children AND adults would love to use that slide. The educational experience would just be a bonus.

[@primalspace]

Haha so true. I know that I would go for sure!

[@PandaBoyy2]

the amount of dedication this channel has to make us these detailed videos is unimaginable, ty for all the videos :D

[@primalspace]

Thank you so much! I'm just so glad that you enjoy them - it really means a lot!

[@HyperHrishiHD]

It’s so entertaining 😊

[@ExopMan]

I never realized the launch pad was so intricate and had so many rooms/features

[@k1j2f30]

And this one only 12 meters below launch pad, yikes!!!

[@primalspace]

Pretty mind blowing stuff the more you learn and the deeper you dig ... pun intended haha

[@walker1812]

My grandfather was a launch pad safety engineer for Mercury, Gemini, and early Apollo. He had numerous rockets blow up overhead on him while hunkered down in bunkers. Not this one of course. Bet he snuck a ride down it at some point off the books though. Who wouldn’t?

[@Skank_and_Gutterboy]

I'm sure it was a night-shift thing to do once in a while.

[@walker1812]

@@Skank_and_Gutterboy good routine maintenance should require testing. They were just being good at their jobs riding it once a month.

[@Skank_and_Gutterboy]

@@walker1812 Absolutely!

[@meh.7539]

Yo, the new Fallout is looking pretty good.

[@Enonymouse_]

Saturn 5 had to be partially fueled at least when vertical because the fuel pressure maintains its structural integrity.

[@MartiniPinball]

It’s amazing how many details we’re detrimental too the working of that machine. And even more amazing they basically thought of all of them and worked them out mostly analog.

[@N3AMK]

If NASA doesn't do anything (which I would kind of expect, unless some huge movement happens), they should at least 3d scan/360 video the room, allowing us to view it! It being a museum piece would be quite cool, however, being that it is underneath a still active launch pad, I can see where that would be a problem.

[@taylormay9938]

Would love to see a video about the emergency procedures that are in place now. I had no clue this existed until this video. Very cool.

[@primalspace]

Definitely a topic I will keep in mind. I really enjoyed learning more about this space myself!

[@derp8575]

Moon landing skeptics knew about the rubber room but were called conspiracy theorists. At least we know how the Challenger astronots managed to survive.

[@taylormay9938]

@@derp8575 Lmao "moon landing skeptics"... That's a cute way of saying "us who refute science because we can't comprehend it". Us actual engineers don't really get how you guys manage to survive on your own. The lack of cognitive function must be crippling... 🤦😂

[@KVLT_VVITCH]

Can we hotbox it?

[@AviatorJosh]

Outstanding video. I’m a NASA engineer and I’m constantly impressed by the great material that your channel creates.

[@primalspace]

Thank you so much! Really means a lot that you enjoy the content here!

[@simulacra7885]

Man that’s crazy.

[@peterbechard1900]

While performing contract training there I was lucky enough to be taken for a tour of this “bounce house”. It was really interesting since they had made some changes to the slide when they began launching the Space Shuttles. Shortly after they installed the baskets that on the high levels were released and zip lined to a safe distance fro: the pad.

[@primalspace]

Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time share!

[@happyfox711]

Where you bring your gf for a good bounce after hours. Mancave #1

[@dukeofsomething129]

This level of safety precautions and ingenuity by NASA always amazed me.They really though out all solutions for various cases and possibilities.

[@jnhkx]

I think with the 60s tech of the rocket, it's sooo new, so they might want to precaution everything they can think of at that time

[@edc1569]

Not so much with the shuttle.

[@MrTLsnow]

@@edc1569 or Apollo 1

[@Feefa99]

I am wondering if Space X is even capable of precautions on such level

[@veramae4098]

@@MrTLsnow I'd bet this was done after Apollo 1. It must've been. The only way out of that capsule bolted from the outside.

[@TheCousinEddie]

Thank you for sharing this information. It's hard to believe that the early space programs of Gemini and Apollo took place more than 60 years ago and we are still learning new and interesting facts about the design and engineering implemented to complete their goals. I can't imagine the myriad of problems that had to be solved in only a handful of years. I believe a lot of the programs success is due to having outstanding leadership at all phases and genius engineers. I watched a recent video about the engineering of the first stage of an Apollo rocket explained by a NASA engineer that worked on both Gemini and Apollo. He gave very detailed explanations on the systems, how they were designed, the problems that had to be solved, as well as how each problem was tackled from an engineering perspective. The creativity and variety of bold ideas these folks came up with is truly staggering.

[@danielschenker1969]

Thank you for sharing this - this was really cool to learn about! Above just the obvious "it should be a museum tour", walking through the tunnels with former Astronauts as a part of NASA's Meet The Astronaut lunches would be awesome!

[@primalspace]

I absolutely love this idea! Thank you for sharing and so glad you enjoyed the video. Good luck in the giveaway!

[@WordlessQuarry34]

"They would burst into a place known as the Backrooms"😂 1:54

[@fwieland]

They should consider renovating it, especially at LC-39a when Starship is expected to be flying several missions a day. One day there a problem while tanking will occur. Having a blast-proof room for dozens of astronauts and crew will be needed then.

[@stormageddon101]

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[@primalspace]

🤣🐀🤣

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[@larryzip890]

It would be really impressive if someone or game developers decided to make a simulator of the rubber room so people like me can go inside and explore it

[@primalspace]

I would love that!

[@Fircasice]

It is so remarkable that they went to such lengths to give the people involved a chance at survival in case of a catastrophic event that may never come to pass wich thankfully it didn't but still. They could've just told them to live with the risk but they didn't.

[@tobiasbrunner4720]

my guess is it was mainly about knowhow preservation

[@johnkean6852]

All the Astronots slid into the bunker whilst the firework took off.

[@Jan_Strzelecki]

Meanwhile, the actual astronauts landed on the Moon.

[@Fireclaws10]

This is awesome! Stuff like this is what the current private space companies miss

[@firsthalthor]

I think it would be really cool to open it for tours or a space camp for children. Make the slide operational and safe and have some interactive activities inside the bunker.

[@AHHHHHHHH21]

Maybe drill down into the concrete to use the escape hatch on top of the bunker, as I feel like making kids walk all that distance to get out is a little much

[@jamesrosewell9081]

​@AHHHHHHHH21 well if it was a public museum it would need to be accessible to those in wheelchairs due to the Americans with Disabilities Act. Therefore they'd probably make an elevator that goes straight to the room with the slide by digging down straight from immediately above ground

[@AHHHHHHHH21]

@@jamesrosewell9081 yeah, that would be better

[@firsthalthor]

@@jamesrosewell9081 wheelchairs can go down the slide 😂

[@sydneymyers1281]

Can't get to the room until SPACEX and Artemis is done with the pads.

[@Durwood71]

Would they really have been able to detect an imminent explosion with enough time for the entire crew to get to the bunker? I would think if there was going to be catastrophic failure, it would happen without warning.

[@vincentrobinette1507]

Not to mention, the time it would take for the crawler to dock with the slide tunnel. When things go wrong with a rocket, there just isn't any time from the time the problem is discovered, until the *BOOM!!*

[@kayzeaza]

Yes, a fuel leak. Did you not watch the video??

[@kayzeaza]

@@vincentrobinette1507people wouldn’t be on the crawler working until after it was set in place. Come on man do some actual thinking here

[@foxmccloud7055]

Starting with Artemis II, if an emergency occurs that necessitates an evacuation of the pad, everyone would use the slide wire baskets on the west side of the spacecraft and then either wait in a bunker or climb aboard armored personal carriers and crash the perimeter fence to get to safety.

[@MeepMeep88]

2:20 LOL so they didn't even come up with a solution for you know... preventing possible broken bones?

[@Parmetheus]

Just throw a ton of foam at the other end idk lol

[@BearIchi]

Drainage system always works

[@brightax7502]

it’s nasa, they gotta think better bruh

[@Max-js1mx]

a natural evaporating holding tank would do fine, the rarity of having to use this could make it a decently cheap and efficient option, at the end and bottom there could be a bunch of tiny holes to allow it to drain into the evaporation pit

[@nimeshjain5523]

Older rocket science is like a crazy

[@setituptoblowitup]

It's all crazy

[@maxwright8479]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. The Rubber Room.

[@KrishnaSharma-nn3pu]

It's like a forbidden piece of information. Great animations and amazing video btw. I feel nasa should put it to public display sometimes and maintain it for future emergencies too. Thank you for the video

[@primalspace]

Thank you so much! So glad that you enjoyed the video and good luck in the giveaway!

[@TomKappeln]

I think NASA fears to share the fakt with this bunker bekause it COULD be missused from the "we were never on the moon" morons. In fakt the crew would not be visible when leaving the rocket ....

[@WolvenDogma]

Im adding 'NASA's Forbidden Water Slide' to my bucket list

[@primalspace]

Haha saaaaaame.

[@nielspeterchristensen5454]

It would be awesome if they could somehow make the bunker into an exhibit of some sort. It shows some of the immense engineering which went into "stage 0", which is often overlooked

[@primalspace]

Agreed. I would love to see something like that in the future. Thank you for your comment and good luck in the giveaway!

[@sydneymyers1281]

@@primalspace Both the LC-39A and B are active launch pads (SPACEX and ARTEMIS). They would have to demolish the pad surface to get to the bunkers. I am fortunate to have been inside them and have pictures to show.

[@DrollerApollo13]

NASA should transform the bunker so it can hold more people for a longer period of time. This could be useful for a number of different scenarios including future missions from that pad.

[@primalspace]

I would love to see it refurbished for future use. Thank you for your comment and good luck in the giveaway!

[@anonymousequanimous9808]

From the thumbnail I thought it was one of those fair rides that spin you around and the “seats” move up and down

[@midnightluna4681]

The Gravitron, my favorite ride.

[@stitious8029]

This is so remarkable, it would be cool if they allowed tours of this piece of NASA history.

[@primalspace]

I would absolutely pay for a guided tour!

[@earthling_parth]

Learning about the planning and engineering behind the video makes me appreciate human ingenuity. The animation for this was out of the world (pun intended) ❤

[@primalspace]

Thank you so much! Really glad you enjoyed the video!

[@niagarawarrior9623]

this is really neat, great visuals too, well done. i had no idea NASA built a slide to the backrooms

[@primalspace]

Thank you so much. Really glad you enjoyed the video.

[@Hamada_outo]

8:01

[@ChristianStepmoms]

5:54 alright, let's get this out onto the tray...

[@CoyDaggers]

I would love it if NASA put out a tour of the bunker. Never knew it existed until now

[@Atmors_Arts]

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[@primalspace]

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[@troomoo9171]

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[@ryanside7095]

8:02 various animals? Like, like rats? 😵‍💫

[@Steelebourne]

I'd like to see it recreated in VR, or maybe even just as a simple video game experience.

[@masamune2984]

As a game/systems designer, I’ve been looking for a new side project/fun little new VR experience to make. I might have to think about using this 🙂

[@NotTechSupport]

@@masamune2984 If it really is decommissioned, maybe an FOIA request could get detailed information or even blueprints.

[@Weirdcore-sx9np]

they locked me in a room, a rubber room-

[@primalspace]

with rats? rats make me crazy.

[@site_alpha_Liberty_Cat]

Anyone who worked mission S & R know if this was classified at the time? As for now sadly, like most underground facilities, if it's not maintained it's usually been breached by toxic mold. If it hasn't and if it's safe, it can be turned into a tour area with other attractions on it's own with minimal funding.

[@austinsawyer988]

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[@primalspace]

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[@SpaceflightRocketShorts]

Like others have said, I think they should open it up to yours and the public so people can learn more about the safety precautions!

[@primalspace]

I would love to see something like that! Thank you for your comment and good luck in the giveaway!

[@dannymartial7997]

Why did they treat a rocket exploding like some kind of world-ending apocalyptic scenario? Lol Completely overkill and unnecessarily implemented. The existence of it was more fear mongering than comforting.

[@roosterwingz]

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[@primalspace]

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[@TheAlison1456]

"if there was an emergency that gave them time to react, like an uncontrolled leak, there was a chance they could survive" wow... never in my life would I think I'd conceive of an emergency as a blessing. Thank you for this new experience.

[@ljsystems5694]

I would love to see the bunker. It would be great if they could create a museum with direct access to it. But sadly this would never happen...

[@koriko88]

1:45 - Where is Milla when we need her? www.youtube.com/@MillaChats

[@totoreshkagaming3399]

Crazy? I was crazy once.

[@TrueHelpTV]

1:20 was about to say this feels like a missed opportunity for a water slide

[@primalspace]

LOL I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that design meeting

[@thatrandomoctoling]

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[@primalspace]

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