Prime Inline 5. 1 month update and a $2 Upgrade you must try

[@robertvillafane5308]

Great video you. Sound so professional is like watching a tv show on discovery

[@stevenschmitz2361]

Your so real....I'm not afraid to try any bow, have owned many brands. But the PRIME is so intriguing and freakishly different I'm ready to buy again, finding it difficult not to try the new PRIME again. This is a good quote "Its hard not to buy a good bow today!"

[@jbrunoimagery]

Love my Inline! Bullet hole straight out of the box. I love how they think outside the box and the fit and finish of the bows are above all other bows.

[@kylefrye6265]

Keep up the great work best bow reviews out there! And I love cracking a beer and watching your videos!

[@ApexPredatorOutdoors]

Nice man! My 80 lb Inline 5 will be here in three weeks! My review coming soon...

[@Knifestories]

Hey Brandon. Been watching your vids since the first Traverse one you presented us with. Had my attention ever since. I myself am a tinkerer of all bow things. Currently shooting the RX 7 Ultra, along with the Elite Remedy, Bowtech Realm X and Reckoning 35. I had a Prime Black 5 for a short while. Haven't shot the Inline 5, and maybe it will stay that way. I found one thing no one talks about Primes. When you raise the nocking point on the string, it makes the string angle more acute. ( they act like ATA minus 2 inches). At my 31"ish draw length, it is very noticeable. Enjoy your bow this upcoming season. Keep those videos coming, and as always, shoot straight.

[@Waty8413]

5:13 My guess would be that it allows them to use the same, exact cam components on multiple bow models without worrying about the draw length marked on the cam matching the real life draw length of a particular model. Position 5 might be 28" on model A but 29" on model B. I could see this being the case if they have two similar models with different riser lengths. Disclaimer: I'm too lazy to check Prime's website so what I just said might not be relevant at all.

[@Dad_N_Eli]

Yeah I agree. That’s why a lot of manufactures do that.

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

That makes sense but This year all the draw lengths on the bows are the same. 26 through 30.5. I just figured “A” was always going to be 30.5.

[@garywuollet5866]

@@brandonmcdonald6121 I believe that the draw length will depend on the brace height. If you use the same cam with the same rotation at different brace height, the draw length range would be different. With a 6" brace you could have a range of 25"to 30" for example and the same cams on a 7" brace would be 26"to 31". That would presume the same rotation. This is my understanding.

[@nicfield6895]

Hearing you talk about the Prime's misses at distances vs. your Bowtech reminds me of missing with a QAD rest at long distances vs. a quality limb driven rest. No matter how dialed I could get a bow, and match grade my arrows are, that QAD rest will make my groups at 60+ unsatisfactory.

[@bryanparryhunter]

The thumbnail gives me the vision of a pro shop owner who trims serving and d loops exclusively with his cigar. Maybe this guy even christens customers' new bows with some scotch. Arrow shafts are garnished with a dab of cigar ash then sealed. The shop is called "The Archer's Apothecary" or Huntsman's Guild.

[@willshunting]

As a retired Engineer, with a keen interest in compound bow hunting and bow design/performance, I have, from the very outset, been perplexed at the seemingly endless focus on peripheral issues, that can actually or might effect accuracy, but the single, by far most important fundamental factor, is rarely addressed. That factor is bow torque that is innate or integral to the specific bow design; hereinafter refered to as "Integral Bow Torque" or "IBT". Suffice to say, archers are well aware of the importance of proper technique in gripping, or should I say, supporting, the bow, so as to avoid torquing the riser, but, ironically, IBT is regularly never mentioned at all, in bow reviews. Archers and hunters who are not Engineers have sought to argue that IBT is not a problem, because it generates the same, consistant bow structure response, during each draw/ release cycle. This is profoundly misguided, frankly wrong, reasoning. The ability of any projectile based weapon to consistantly send the projectile to the point of aim, across all range distances, requires that the stucture supporting the energised projectile, supports, but does not impose lateral or vertical forces on the projectile throughout the projectiles path out of the supporting structure. In the case of compound bows, the key points of support for the projectile/arrow are the rest and nock point. It is therefore obvious, that maximum consistant accuracy can only occur when nock travel has neutral lateral and neutral vertical movement after release from full draw. Just as important is that the arrow rest does not exhibit lateral (horizontal plane) rotation, that can cause lateral forces on the arrow shaft. There is no avoiding these realities other than by seeking to deny them. Thus it is of course possible to adjust nock height, rest position and, most significantly, sight pin settings, to consistantly compensate for IBT at a specific range distance. Thus, I can get any number of bows to group tightly, group after group, at say 20 yards. However, the IBT will always introduce innate, incrementally greater inaccuracy at any longer distances. Unfortunately, many archers/ hunters, failing to take IBT into account, spend many, many wasted hours on peripheral factors. Bow manufactures are aware of the importance of IBT but seek to ignore it. The only manufacturer I have observed openly, but briefly, acknowledging its importance was G5 Prime. So before you waste more money and time on speculating over peripheral stuff, sweat on IBT and let bow manufacturers know you're expecting future models to have zero IBT and zero vertical nock travel after release from full draw.

[@alanhaynes1717]

Really liked the post few weeks use review and Great green smoke effects 👍 🏹

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Had those damn smoke bombs laying around the house for like two years so I finally needed to get rid of them! I want to keep updating as I go along with the bow. It always seems to develop overtime

[@macbarb12]

Love your videos! Can’t wait for them to drop!

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Appreciate it!

[@rick31869]

i must say you got class my brother , always enjoy your vids !

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Appreciate you watching!

[@averagejackarchery]

Can't. Not. Chime. In.... BowTech makes one cam for one bow style. They can add numbers to those cams as they're the only cam options and draw length. Prime has several ATA lengths with the same cam. Different bow means different draw length for the same cam module.

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

I want you to chime in!!! I thought about that too but they’re all 26-30.5 this year. I assume “A” is still 30.5 and so on. I could be wrong, and you know I’m just willing to say stuff and live with the consequences!

[@averagejackarchery]

@@brandonmcdonald6121 My guess? Prime is the first company I've ever seen that has long ATA bows shrink brace height. Effect? "Loss" of draw length when usually the longer ATA bows gain it. BUT the Prime guys are like the most legit engineers on the planet who moonlight making bows. So what do I know? 🤷😂

[@nathanbrooks4324]

It’s probably not so much about this years model bows (even if they are all the same numbers this year) but moving forward using the same cam for other models in the future.

[@mm2_Arya]

Fish eye Brandon is awesome! Well done!

[@josephtreadlightly5686]

I have a custom take down recurve. I shoot it pretty well, especially for bowfishing. Something about how the grip & balance of the Prime feels when I shoot it is just reminds me of that recurve. Smooth & simple. I did have a Prime with a 6" brace height that was a beast & the draw cycle wasn't as smooth as my new Nexus 4. Just like everything on their bows since the Centergy is different than most bows. I still have my Centergy. I believe the retired engineer that tested bows with a draw board & laser never found one better than it. It's a pretty cool experiment.

[@YoureSoVane]

Torx (the star bits) are superior in pretty much every way. If everything bigger than a 1/8" was Torx I'd be happy

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

I added different hose material on my cable stops - helped out big time with wear & tear on the cables

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Interesting. What type? Any pics?

[@henrybrylowski1332]

Ok, the $2 upgrade is what I'm most impressed with! Is that weird? What does that say about me? 🤔🤔🤔🤷‍♂️🤣 I have plans on test shooting a bunch of bows this year and hopefully can pick one.🤣🤣🤣🤣 I've been a Hoyt shooter for a couple decades now and I'm only in last year or 2 open to possibly getting another brand.🤷‍♂️. The last time I bought a new bow was in 2007. I love the latest and greatest gear but also like staying with what's familiar and works for me. Great video and look forward to seeing more!

[@jamesshepherd7727]

Cigars and bourbon. Just need the plate of bacon. Scotch is good too. My older Hoyts have the center in the grip also. Once you get used to the way the pressure is on your hand its hard to shoot a middle center shot bow again. Like when I try a Mathews the top limb feels like its going to hit me in the head at the beginning of the draw. I am shooting some Elite bows now and they dont feel like the Mathews. Good video. Thanks

[@bbmas1930]

just put an automotive rubber O-ring over the limb stops. They have a groove in them that captures and holds the O- ring. In fact Elite sells a kit with colour coded different thickness O-rings (1.5mm diameter up to 4mm) that give you different feel of the back wall and allow micro adjust of the valley depth too.

[@juniorhonorato4433]

Love my VXR but I have been intrigued by the Prime Inline. I was really waiting to see what you had to say about it I've watched several reviews but you kind of speak to average Joe shooter. Going to go shoot one soon.

[@The_Fit_ness_monster]

FYI if you have a concept 2 rower, that tool that comes with it is the bit needed for the draw length screws.

[@cjr4497]

I picked up an inline 3. The shop had me shooting bullet holes by the third shot. I love the grip and I much prefer it over my previous bow tech.

[@FullSend93]

Which bowtech did you shoot prior to the prime?

[@kveritas1]

Not sure what you have, but all the Inlines we have in the shop use an Allen head to change the draw mods, including my own Inline 3.

[@aaronward3882]

Mine have torx

[@robspectre1973]

My Nexus 6 is one of the absolute finest shooting bows I've ever owned and I've owned them all (from Invicta, Rezult, TRX 36 and 38, Reckoning, to "fill in the blank"). Im a 3D guy and the Prime holds great. For me, the two best bows in the last two years are the Hoyt Invicta 37 SVX and the Nexus 6.

[@definitelynotbrad6736]

Better than the TRX 36 & 38 aye? What did you think of the Inline 35 vs the Nexus 36?

[@timbow50]

Love your analysis of this thing. Personally,I would buy one as I shot one and man it's fricking weird to me. I've been hooked on a couple of Elite bows. If you haven't tried them do it. I guarantee you will love the draw cycle. You will appreciate how still it holds without trying. The pin just sits there. Glad you found time again to get a buzz,smoke some camouflaged weed and keep us entertained. 👍👍🔥🔥🙌🏻

[@jamesshepherd7727]

The Elites are very solid in the aiming department. Mine all hold so still. Never had less pin float on any bow before.

[@raywarner4704]

Once I got my draw length correct, the bow stacks them in there. The draw lengths come in about 1/2 inch long when you put it on a draw board.

[@BowDisciples]

Videos are awesome brother

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Thanks very much. Ive been enjoying y’all’s as well. Keep it up!

[@sjmonty19]

Dope video my dude I've been leaning towards a inline 5 or a mathews 33 still not sure yet

[@psh130]

You won't regret a mathews

[@stick__shooter]

I never could get comfortable with my Black 1. Couldn't get my peep high enough, seemed to torque easily, draw felt heavy. Much happier with my SR6. I don't see myself going back to Prime. Lots of people say the Primes like stiff arrows, but my Black 1 liked weak spine shafts much better.

[@Stickbowsouth]

wow! had no idea you were in my area and went to The Archery Den!

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

That’s my main shop

[@d500mag2]

I'd have to guess it's less forgiving at distance because the pivot point of your grip is also the pivot point of the riser now, due to design. On other bows the pivot point was the arrow, or closer to the arrow. This would make your sight bubble even more critical.

[@ernestroger3326]

I am shooting the Prime Centergy Air . For me it seems to hold steady in hand . Don’t have to fight the bubble so to speak . The only thing that feels awkward to me is the draw cycle .

[@jimsheldon9909]

You nailed it bud! I thought it was me but the nexus and my inline 3 has been more finicky to tune than other bow. I don’t know why either but they are. I noticed this inline 3 60# likes a stiffer shaft.I did have to shim mine over to get a bullet hole. Thanks for a great vid on the prime bow. I really love mine as well. Always great to see your vids. 👍

[@kalinecole]

I noticed my inline 3 likes a stiffer arrow also

[@larryotto3921]

I am wondering if you have any updates on the Prime? I have a V3, shoots good, but came paint rubs off very easily and I had to replace one cam within first year of shooting. love Prime build and I am wanting longer ATA. I am between Prime inline 5 and the V3x 33. I also like the grip on the prime better. no prime shop near me that has one to shoot. love any feed back thanks and keep up the great videos. thanks Larry

[@White_devil1980]

Synchronicity of the cams 😊 I’ve only got a Hoyt Maxxis 31 compound bow I’ve never tried other bows as they don’t sell Hoyt or any other brand bows 😱😤

[@lucifer_dclxvi8134]

The British (My Bow) is the same where the nocking point is not in the dead center of the bow.

[@miketruckey4943]

Bowtech owns the Binary cam patents which they advertise on their bows. But the bowtech - mathews- prime etc are actually 2 (dual) cam bow not Binary.

[@d500mag2]

Torx type fasteners handle torque at the tool/fastener interface better. Also small torx fasteners are usually a better alloy than allen fasteners

[@chrisadam363]

Nicely described, i think thats what i want as well.

[@milkrvr4088]

Also make a video on why I should by iron wills and how they are totally worth the money please I’m getting some and want to feel better about spending the money thanks 🙏🏼

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

My favorite fixed heads. Use lighted nocks so you don’t lose them!

[@michaelcolthart4006]

I noticed my CT3 is more forgiving to hand torque than my Nexus 6…..pretty sure it’s the fatter grip on the Nexus but it could also be the rest on the CT just happens to be in a sweeter spot relative torque tuning (which I haven’t done on either bow).

[@keith3658]

Awesome video as always

[@Lavonshirk]

Did you ever try the Athens Vista series! ??

[@jordanbrillowski2571]

Brandon, which of your three Prime bows did you like the best?

[@mcguireoutdoors5187]

Hi Brandon: I’m about 2 weeks away from ordering a new bow. Coming from an RX-4 and VXR. Push me towards one… any maker

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Yes the smoke did in fact dye the bow string! Thanks for watching

[@Briguy933]

Don’t light a cigar with a match. Use a torch.

[@HuWhiteNat]

I would bet that the lack of accuracy and forgiveness at longer distances is directly tied to that 6” brace height. I’d have given the bow more than ten seconds of consideration had it been 7”. Brandon, get an Athens Vista 33 or 35.

[@milkrvr4088]

Does the draw stop come lose after a couple shots? Do you notice the back wall isn’t as solid as something with 2 stops? And the bow has one small cam and one big cam that seems wild to me and the tool is a bar you hit with a hammer 🔨 I like how the bows hold they feel like they are a good weight also not to heavy just not to sure about everything yet also I haven’t had to do anything to a 2022 flagship bow through paper two shots for Hoyt Mathews and prime as well as bowtech by going off center shot at 29” with my arrow it was with all the demo bows we get they all tune super easy now as long as your form isn’t jacked up

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Mine hasn’t come loose yet. It has some lock tight on it though. It’s a wild bow..

[@milkrvr4088]

@@brandonmcdonald6121 I was really excited about this bow when it first came to the shop I work at and then I just stopped hearing about it I’m going to shoot it today and check some speeds I have a 482 grain arrow I shoot through all our demo bows Hoyt and Mathews are 2fps different with that arrow bowtech is 1fps off them also so I’m sure this will be close but now I’m curious

[@greekmaster1001]

So what was the tweaking that you did? You said you was getting a bullet hole from day one

[@benjaminbunny99]

How much above center is your nock point on the 5?

[@FlyShootTravelSleepRepeat]

Brandon can it be more complicated. I just want to shoot center, thats it……nice cigar soo and did enjoy listening 🤟

[@zacharyclark8905]

Nothing holds like a prime

[@dawagyeltshen6025]

Hi I have black 5 and it's giving trouble while shooting 145 yards it throws arrow wide left .. would you advise me to set up ?

[@harrisonfloyd2411]

Most companies are using torx bits for their mods now….. Hoyt, PSE, pretty sure Mathews and bowtech too. Only bows not using them as standard now I’m sure is the budget kids bows

[@miketruckey4943]

I live 35 min from Memphis mi where prime is located.. and use to work their. And you would hav a whole different opinion of quality if you had worked their also.

[@jasonnester9514]

U walk back tune the prime ?

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

good stuff, but do you remember PJ Riley/Outdoor Life top bow this year? there is video idea for you sense seemed to be a bow you would not be interested....

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Levitate followed by the Mathews. I shot the levitate and really liked it. I just tend to not like shorter, lighter bows.

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

@@brandonmcdonald6121 i thought you previously rejected the paddle design. It really just a bit of improvement or not over the other Stealths. I wonder if they praised it so much last year the Mach 1. So far V3X 29 is only 2022 purchased. Like the levitate, not sure enough to sell my Mach 1, need to try the Prime soon.

[@paulmendolia8483]

they dont want regular joes messing around with the mechanics. They want to be the BMW of the archery manufacturers.

[@thereaper4396]

Prime took a MAJOR step back this year. No question about it.

[@titansfan2104]

What shop is that you were at around the 9 min mark

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Archery den in Franklin Tennessee

[@jeremyellis7348]

They added the tore head because people kept stripping draw mods

[@definitelynotbrad6736]

4:03 Well those chrome hockey pucks and the awkward large screwdriver thing sure are helpful if you can't buy the tool.. (-_-)

[@dewetrobertson1752]

My black 5 is going nowhere. Tried all the new 2022 bows, not impressed, maybe only the Hoyt rx7 ultra impresses me the most

[@AnalogAssassin1]

Torx head can get torqued better and not strip the head out like an Allen.

[@flugit]

I think the numbers on the mods was just primes bad decision, my bear has the actual draw length on the mods.

[@OutdoorShellback]

Don't act like we don't see that V3x sitting there next to you...

[@bradheni2216]

Like the video, but will never buy a Prime. They seem to like to complicate things other bow companies have made customer friendly.

[@garedjennings6509]

Put your pride aside and stick with the bowtech. Don't fall for the coolest and best marketing of Mathews. Bowtech pounds and is so easy to tune. No headaches. Don't have to analyze and think about every little detail. Just go shoot and pound the target with ease with the bowtech.

[@jasonburns1403]

Until they blow up in your face....true story...lol

[@liamboyle9199]

Bigger top cam isn't that special, even the British do it and we're doing it years ago now. And yes module values are because of bowtech taking it for themselves...

[@kipmcbride2681]

I like their new concept but they really dropped the ball for anybody that has long arms I’ve got a guy that needs a draw out to 31 1/2 or 32 and you would think the 35 would get it done nope very disappointing prime this year all of their bows go out to the same drawl at 30 1/2

[@aaronward3882]

Torx not star! Torx is far superior to socket head.

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

I mumble torx when I’m doing the “engineer accent” they are superior but pick one type then! Star me up all the way!

[@aaronward3882]

@@brandonmcdonald6121 I agree make them all torx.

[@Buran01]

@@brandonmcdonald6121 The torx screws are used in the rotating mods of some other manufacturers as in the Evolve Cams from PSE. There is a reason due torx screws do exist: they are essentially a upgraded allen screw. In the hexagonal shape of an allen screw the force of the allen key or allen screwdriver isn't applied in a perfect perpendicular 90º slant against the inner wall of the hexagon, but with a slight slant. That slant makes some force loses and favours the potential damage of the tool or the screw. The star shape of the torx is designed to align the key or tool against the inner wall of the screw at perfect 90º, so there's minimal loses in the force applied and both the screw and the tool retain their integrity for longer. You can use torx tools on an allen screw of the same size but never viceversa.

[@HickLif3]

I'm of the opinion that patents kill/slow innovation. I don't like them.

[@brandonmcdonald6121]

Double edged sword but, where we are in the bow world, I agree.

[@Tughill1699]

Nothing new, Hoyt bows were built the same way for years just had a yoke on one end - all the systems that have no yoke at all suck and can't be tuned the right way people are suckers , whatever bow manufactures say they believe - I participated but not the last several years

[@josephr1198]

Dark video

[@MrRay645]

Tons of ridiculous wide reaching patients... some are just comically silly it what they cover

[@JJ79_]

Cigar and alcohol again, why? Easy unsubscribe.

[@the_sharp_carpenter]

Would you prefer coffee and a lolly pop? You'll be sorely missed....

[@JJ79_]

@@the_sharp_carpenter That would be much better.

[@the_sharp_carpenter]

@@JJ79_ some people don't like coffee and candy🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JJ79_]

@@the_sharp_carpenter Me neither ;)