Private Pilot Lesson 17 - Pre-Solo Landing Practice II

[@curtmowry9920]

Tommy, Ignore the rude and ignorant comments. Those of us also training really appreciate seeing your progress and it helps to see other students going through some of the same challenges.

[@richchatwin2989]

Tommy - these videos are so valuable. Thank you for publishing these!

[@Juandrumx]

Hello Mr. Thomasson, I like to thank you for your Private Pilot Lesson videos, it's actually my first time watching one, I'm glad I found your's first. I watch the first two or three and this one. I appreciated your great, knowledgeable, and wise instructor. I took some notes and I'm sure I will not forget to keep my hands on the throttle, always work the rotter, use down town at the beginning and end of transmission with tower, and keep my eyes off the run way or cot pit and aim for the camel mount on the hills of Tennessee, if the landscape haven't change in three years or if ever I actually learn to fly and visit Knoxville Tn. You also did a superb job as a student, now Captain ??? Wanted to thank you and congratulate you in appreciation of your video.d Juan Torres July 6, 2018

[@tommythomasson476]

Glad you liked the videos and thanks for the comment. I completed my training and got my certificate in October 2015. I have my 2 year flight review this week (after taking about a year off from flying). I hope to be posting some new videos in the next few months as I begin training for the instrument rating.

[@steviespaind4307]

MAde me smile straight away.....I came from lesson 3 to this one, and you STILL need to be told to keep your hand on the throttle :) I´m enjoying the series, thanks :)

[@nathanwhitechurch3769]

Thanks for all this video Playlist man!

[@davidjordan2215]

Great Videos Tommy I'm flying with John because of them

[@lindseyburkey2999]

Good videos...great instructor. I have not seen any other instructor teach aerobatics...what a great learning tool! I assume that the Skyhawks and Cherokees used by flight training schools aren't structurally up to the task. One strange thing, I haven't heard you mention is the use of flaps during the landings. It could be that you are putting them in and just not mentioning it.

[@beecarpet]

Second Flight lesson completed I really appreciate these videos

[@wofwof46]

god bless you Mr Thomasson

[@Roblox_Lover_12345]

I know I'm 6-years late to this party, but I don't see how the negative harpy comments are helpful. On John the CFI's approach: different strokes for different folks. People learn differently, so if this works for this student, it works. Enjoyed the video.

[@iconstar342]

I'm excited in this series THANKS for that

[@deepaegeanblue]

Better part of I liked is one patato,two patato,....for flap settings,CFI is really great,I wish I had gotten some practice with him..

[@mmg-hw4yf]

On base when you push pull turn trim are you trimming the nose up or down? Awesome Video thank you for sharing this series!

[@chrisfrierson3276]

m mg Nose up two clicks.

[@MartinSage]

In No Cali there is a CFI who calls good landings Lindbergh Landings because the nose is up and blocking the pilots frontal vision till the 2 main wheels are touching the runway and then the front wheel is allowed to touch the asphalt.,

[@rickjones5068]

Wonder does he teach another way?

[@mattbasford6299]

I remember lap after lap around 33J until I finally soloed.

[@TAG82UK]

I found a coin lol

[@TheDetroitSlayer]

The instructor constantly adjusting the yoke would get on my nerves. If theyre my controls, dont touch them.

[@2Greenlid]

Agree! Give the student a second to see if he’s doing it right, ONLY touch the yoke when needed, let the student learn.....

[@frizsld6793]

How long did it take you to get your PPL

[@kevincarbone6831]

What does he mean by push pull turn trim? Can someone explain each cue? I know he explained earlier in the series but I can’t find it

[@pictzone]

Hey man, I know this will sound weird, but you gave me a really good list of books in a comment a few months ago. Well, today I finally had some time and wanted to setup my reading list. I always planned to come back and review your comment when this moment came, but whad'ya know? That video is deleted and there's no way for me to view your comment again... That being said, would you mind making me the extreme favor of going through your KZbin comment history and pasting it here? I've looked at my own history and my reply to you on that comment was on November 22, so it should be very easy for you to find if you go back to that date. I really valued your list of books and the fact that you curated them in such a nice way for me. I'm really sorry to bother you in this way.. I was an idiot for not saving them on the spot and assuming it will always be available.

[@kevincarbone6831]

Thanks for the kind words! Yes I was dismayed to see that thread got deleted (looks like that audiobook was taken down for copyright infringment). I had the list saved on my phone though as it I originally compiled it to send to a friend. Here is the list again (with two bonus books I read and valued within the interim 😄) General Success Principles The Strangest Secret by Earl Nightingale 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill Meditations by Marcus Aurelius The Purpose-Driven Life by Rick Warren The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John Maxwell The Productivity Project by Chris Bailey The Power of Concentration by Theron Dumont The Happiness Advantage by Sean Achor The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg Any seminar by Jim Rohn He Can Who Thinks He Can by Orison Swett Marden 365 Days with Self-Discipline by Martin Meadows Finance Secrets of the Millionaire Mind by T. Harv Ecker The Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason Beat the Street by Peter Lynch The Little Book of Common Sense Investing by Jack Bogle The Intelligent Investor by Ben Graham The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey Money: Master the Game by Tony Robbins Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki Overcoming adversity Psychocybernetics by Maxwell Maltz How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie Failing Forward by John Maxwell Communication How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie The Definitive Book of Body Language by Allen and Barbara Pease Love How to be a 3% Man by Corey Wayne No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover The way of the Superior Man by David Deida The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman

[@pictzone]

Did you respond by any chance? There seems to be another comment, but it's hidden by KZbin. I think KZbin hides comments that include links

[@kevincarbone6831]

General Success Principles The Strangest Secret by Earl Nightingale 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill Meditations by Marcus Aurelius The Purpose-Driven Life by Rick Warren The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John Maxwell The Productivity Project by Chris Bailey The Power of Concentration by Theron Dumont The Happiness Advantage by Sean Achor The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg Any seminar by Jim Rohn He Can Who Thinks He Can by Orison Swett Marden 365 Days with Self-Discipline by Martin Meadows Finance Secrets of the Millionaire Mind by T. Harv Ecker The Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason Beat the Street by Peter Lynch The Little Book of Common Sense Investing by Jack Bogle The Intelligent Investor by Ben Graham The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey Money: Master the Game by Tony Robbins Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki Overcoming adversity Psychocybernetics by Maxwell Maltz How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie Failing Forward by John Maxwell Communication How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie The Definitive Book of Body Language by Allen and Barbara Pease Love How to be a 3% Man by Corey Wayne No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover The way of the Superior Man by David Deida The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman

[@kevincarbone6831]

I wrote you a more detailed response originally but it was censored before you read it, so just the titles this time. Thanks for the kind words! All the best to you, and feel free to share any titles you find that you feel contain wisdom as well!

[@jacyborreaux919]

Push, pull, turn and what? What's that for? Thanks

[@jacyborreaux919]

Xander bonbon beans thanks man! I was already doing that but I guess it's a great way to teach students.

[@roflopoulos1633]

Close that window :P

[@oriandahan]

I don't understand why they coming on glide slope at 100 knots no wonder why his gliding above the runway

[@oriandahan]

that's why his hesitating to pitch up before touch down therefor the plane just will fly keep flying up. can someone answer me?

[@marinepilot5723]

Nice video! It looked like you were indicating 100 on final for every approach. Is there a reason you were flying so fast? Or did I read it incorrectly?

[@tommythomasson476]

Thanks! No, 100 is about right. The airspeed gauge on this aircraft reads MPH instead of knots, and my instructor John (a former Navy pilot) is big on no-flaps landings. So most of my approaches are around 80-85 knots without flaps. I did about 130 landings during my PPL instruction, and I'll bet 110 of those were no flaps.

[@marinepilot5723]

That's new to me...but he's the flight instructor and he knows what he's doing. I'm guessing he is used to shooting all of those high-speed carrier approaches ;) Have fun!

[@swedflyer4653]

@@tommythomasson476 Hi Tommy! I enjoyed your video. Don't make flap up landings your standard after you've got your license. If it's windy/gusty use less flaps, and practice flap up landings occasionally, but a normal landing should be with flaps.

[@rrthomas86]

@@tommythomasson476 Did he ever explain why he is big on no flap landings?

[@gjswilson]

Instructor is kind of blowing it at the end of the lesson

[@bojanl100]

Hi. Why is he insisting on nonflaps landing ?

[@RobertdelaTorre]

I wouldn't last 2 lessons with Mr. Nervous Nilly as my instructor that has to touch everything and correct every minor detail. Im a 800 hr PP with instruments and Ive had many instructors and a few like him. Drives me nuts when they have to micro manage everything. Let the guy learn from minor mistakes and allow him to correct them himself. Plane aint a jet that will fall out the sky.

[@mmg-hw4yf]

Hes a Navy ex millitary pilot so he was trained to perform with precision. Hes simply instructing the way his instructors taught him. Nothing wrong with striving for perfection.

[@2Greenlid]

m mg Doesn’t matter what he did before, he is now an instructor ! How is the student to learn if he doesn’t let student fly? He is INSTUCTOR on this flight, so instruct! (Not fly)

[@frizsld6793]

@13:00 you never radiod your final approach

[@donaldtrunp574]

What is correct Flap setting in a circuit ? Do Flaps stay down after takeoff, or do you retract them just after, and if so at what point or speed do you need wich Flap setting?

[@bradschak]

Donald Trunp flaps stay down on takeoff until a rate of climb is established and airspeed increase. There is white arc on the airspeed indicator that is the flap operating speed.

[@mattbasford6299]

@@bradschak unless I'm doing a short or soft field takeoff I never use flaps on takeoff.

[@swedflyer4653]

@@bradschak Cessna 172 is not recommended to takeoff with flaps more than 10. On touch and go, retract to either UP or 10. Flaps 20 is for balked landing aka go around. Instructors are teaching differently how to fly a circuit. When you have your own license and gain experience you will see that the way you are taught might not always does the trick. Sometimes you have to modify when you are doing things in the circuit for example noise sensitive areas, weather, traffic etc. Some people teach flaps 10 abeam threshold, some teach flaps 10 once on base..

[@ggood50]

Do you have to use flaps when taking your checkride?

[@tommythomasson476]

Yes. If I remember correctly, I had to do a go-around, a full flaps, and a no flaps landing for the check ride. I believe the full flaps landing was a simulated "engine out" scenario.

[@demon39063]

When speaking to the tower, why do you end every sentence with "downtown"?

[@hvacmike1175]

No tower or closed at the time of this video. using CTAF to make position reports

[@tommythomasson476]

The "small" airport in Knoxville is called "Knoxville Downtown" - referenced by the identifier DKX. The big airport is called "McGhee Tyson" and is identifier TYS. The short (radio) name for the DKX airport is "Downtown", thus CTAF (loose) radio/pattern calls are "Downtown".

[@jmitterii2]

When using at a non towered or closed tower (CTAF) other airports often use the same frequency, you end the transmission with your airport so if someone listened in the middle or end of the transmission they can quickly discern if it applies to them, and if so they can call up and ask someone to repeat.

[@frizsld6793]

@30:37 for full stop. You didn't have your throttle idle and you lied to your instructor that you did and blamed it in the tailwind

[@frizsld6793]

@@xanderstarobin5871 you need to get a life.

[@mikestone9129]

Lesson 17 and still being told by the instructor how to do everything. You should be soloing by now. Is it you, or the instructor?

[@brandon5058]

Mike Stone It is his pre-solo, he trains him and gives him advice.

[@tommythomasson476]

My instructor John Burt (former Navy F-104 pilot, former commercial ATP, with 20000+ hours logged) teaches in "short flight" increments of about 0.5 hours. This results in more landings, taxi operations, up/down radio calls (etc). My logbook had 10 hours at this point.

[@MyTROLLEYBUS]

Having kids in the back seems irresponsible.

[@hughjarse4205]

With a 20,000 hour CFI up front?

[@MyTROLLEYBUS]

Lesson 17 & STILL the instructor can't stop talking. Student should have learnt enough not to be prompted so often.