Pro Tour Gatecrash Semifinals

[@TheBiNexus]

LSV actually knows what he's talking about and provides really keen insight for the duels; refreshing!

[@DGice2]

you know it's a great commentator when you learn things. Current pros in the booth is the best thing to happen to coverage!!!

[@IXPrometheusXI]

I've never watched pro players before. This was surprisingly exciting.

[@downsjmmyjones101]

God I loved these manabases. So colorful.

[@LAZERPEOPLZ]

IM(optimistic)O, he asks asks dumb questions to LSV and BDM in order to allow the new players to hear the answers to the questions there thinking of. In a sense, he's like a voice for the noobs.

[@CrimbusDaJimbus]

@7:40 the Harlem Shake reference makes me feel ancient

[@bblivid]

Man this was awesome. I'm glad youtube exists because who knows when this would be on ESPN again

[@bentonmadsen4168]

Rich: yep, spear it, it goes down. Luis *very quietly* That's the spear it

[@maximuzdz]

I love how salty efro got when Tom stomped his ass

[@TheCleanwood]

After about two minutes I was like: "Wait a minute... is that LSV talking?" I love his commentary, definitely one of my favourite players too.

[@LarsTF2]

'Geist is a pretty good card' 'Yeah, that it is' dem high level conversation xD

[@tylerhamelin48]

That's exactly what he's doing. He does it every tournament he does commentary for and it was really nice when I was a beginner and didn't understand why certain triggers were being called on. Especially since Innistrad block had weird things you had to call priority and resolution for.

[@StevefromPR]

dafuq? seriously? theres a stark and a martell playing there?

[@progste]

+Steven Lopez Rios don't tell the Lannisters

[@RareBrink]

He is there almost entirely to ask things that would be obvious to veterans but not obvious to noobies. He is the pro tour historian. You must not have watched very many pro tours and heard him ramble off dead accurate placings, decks, players, game results and quotes. Basically data that no one but he has memorized. He has massive insight to the pro community and at this point, his experience in working at protours is irreplaceable since people of his level of experience just don't exist.

[@Sarpro72]

The most satisfying moment in these games is at 35:55 when Joel picks up his fucking graveyard finally.

[@IvoBarreiro1992]

Evolve is a trigger with an intervening if clause meaning it checks the power of the creature that entered the battlefield twice, once to trigger the ability, another to check if the power is actually higher. Since tragic slip is -13/-13 the reckoner is a -10/-10 the last moment it is on the field before it dies to state-based effects. So when the trigger resolves, it checks if the reckoner has higher power/tougness. since it is a -10/-10 last time it was on the field, the trigger does nothing.

[@awowadas]

the innistrad block will rotate out late next year when the expansion sets come out. then it'll be the return to ravnica block, the 2014 core set, and whatever block comes out late 2014.

[@Cmeebs11]

More people need to do this. Thank you ElMoss64

[@jihadsquad07]

the guy has the ability to make a living with a game most people consider a fun hobby. that's cool as hell in my opinion.

[@kylebchandler]

I personally believe that a person shuffles your cards like that to get you steamed and take you off your game. So many ways to psych out your opponents

[@fkylw]

And a sweet ring. A lot of subtle personality. I like his style.

[@GravyBoatable]

You're correct in that the evolve trigger wouldn't happen, but not because of those reasons. Basically what happens is the evolve trigger goes on the stack. Martell slips the Reckoner in response, and it gets -13/-13. Since the creature dies, evolve will check last known information as Boros Reckoner as a -10/-10. I believe if you were to terror the Recokner in response, the trigger would still happen since last known information is 3/3 on the creature.

[@DrPhr0]

He's doing it with the evolve trigger on the stack, and because tragic slip reduces power and toughness instead of destroying it, the boros reckoner becomes a -10/-10 before dying. You might have also heard them say that the evolve trigger checks the last known value.

[@Fvvaba]

Yes it is a shock land. shock lands are considered both collors they represent, sacred foundry is a mountain and also a plain

[@ElMoss64]

A lot of decks in this Pro Tour run Boros Reckoner, Azorius Charm and Boros Charm. On a turn where Boros Reckoner is taking damage, you can use Azorius Charm to give all your creatures lifelink, and Boros Charm to give make all your creatures indestructible. Due to how Boros Reckoner is worded, you can then have it target itself with its damage effect over and over again, each time gaining X life from lifelink, effectively gaining infinite life.

[@baazarafa]

yeah, and he is also the best public speaker of them, so is good at filling the silence.

[@ElMoss64]

Eric Froehlich vs Tom Martell Round 1 0:49 Ben Stark vs Joel Larsson Round 2 13:11 Round 3 23:48 Eric Froehlich vs Tom Martell Round 4 39:28 Round 5 58:30 Ben Stark vs Joel Larsson Round 5 1:14:43

[@Colby_Draws]

It's to keep your opponent from memorizing which card is where in your hand. That way if your opponent plays something that lets them discard a card from your hand, they may not hit one of your better cards.

[@TumbleDwyer1226]

The evolve trigger happens. in response, tragic slip brings the 2nd reckoner to -13/-13 As the evolve trigger resolves it checks the power and toughness of the new creature and find that it isn't bigger than the gyre sage. So the evolve fizzles. :)

[@its_JJ_1]

people like you make youtube so easy! :D

[@DragonReaver]

no because think about it as a species a legendary creature is one who used to be part of a species but either evolved, mutated, or in the lore did something to make him/her recognizable

[@Snewman48]

I want to make a Aristocrat deck...they look so badass, and play well.

[@jayyylmao]

He unsummoned the Hellkite in response to Azorius Charm to make sure that Ben Stark could not use Nephalia Drownyard to mill Thundermaw Hellkite from the top of Joel Larsson's library.

[@RealShaun]

LSV on the Commentary is just nice :)

[@thesaintofelsewhere]

It's actually really common in advertising and in fiction to pair an expert with a noob. The expert has an excuse to explain, which allows less sophisticated people in the audience to go on a sort of journey in knowledge. Also, the experts in the audience get to enjoy feeling superior.

[@thenoobdestroyer100]

best 2 matches of magic i have ever seen

[@786Demigod]

If a card says 'Tap: add (mana) to your mana pool, could you get that land from your deck if not your hand?

[@thegreatmajora13]

Though i like that they show the cards in hand, i think i would like it if they showed the cards as they resolve on the stack their hand camera's don't have the glare on the cards that the ones on the field do.

[@michelgm1]

Por favor, existe algum con legendas em portugues? e3les falam muito rapido e não consigo acompanhar!!

[@tameretewatch]

If there are 1 boros reckoner for each player and both player are lower than 13, witch trigger start first if a player cast blasphemous act?

[@SelilaLee]

at 26:40 whyJoel Larsson unsummon his Thundermaw Hellkite?i dont understand.

[@Emperorerror]

Yeah. And it would make sense, anyway, how common are minotaur wizards lol?

[@bentonmadsen4168]

Stark: Spear it LSV (Very quietly): That's the spear-it

[@fahmiinabdullah]

card advantage, if u got snapcaster and u mill urself an instant or sorcery card, its like drawing 2 cards except one's in ur hand and one's in ur graveyard

[@shaloine]

can someone explain me why joel larsson target himself to put a card from library to grave with jace?, it's for snapcaster?

[@Jose-wq4zr]

Just seeing aurelia is awesome she's favorite card ever she's so cool and what got me onto mtg angels my favorite creature type not the most powerful but super cool

[@devon11ist]

It deals 13 damage to Boros Reckoner which can then do that much damage to target player or creature.

[@walterppk1989]

LSV, you are the god of puns.

[@ThisNameIsJustTooLon]

Blasphemous Act deals 13 damage to each creature, and protection from red prevents that damage. It's not quite wrath.

[@DemKookies]

how does the combo work exactly? how is the act dealing 13 dmg to the player

[@jamesdunstan2279]

Im seriously like so confused, how are they bringing these cards out so fast and theres like no lands out, please explain w/out the obvious shots I'm opening myself up to :)

[@IzzySpint]

Burning tree-emissary also adds mana to your mana pool when it comes into play. Also people at a professional level won't play lots of incredibly high cmc creatures like a lot of casual players do. Of course there are exceptions to this. Hope the last one wasn't too obvious.

[@17Rekiem]

Someone can explain why Gyre Sage doesn't evolve with the 2nd reckoner ? 46:15

[@jackgillespie4642]

I think it would have been great if jace and tamio were used together, you can mill yourself and if you altimate tamio you can get all of the cards that you milled when you milled yourself. Then add ons like snapcaster and other cards. No maximum hand size. Keep getting cards then you can counter every thing that the opponent has. Your safe. What do you think? Good combo or what?

[@arbitermaster]

hoodi hd innistrad rotates out of standard when the next block comes out after ravnica if your talking type 2 then no innistrad but no one knows when ravnica cyles because we have no official release date of the next block

[@fahmiinabdullah]

he was asking the judge if he gets a penalty after not killing his augurs

[@thegreatmajora13]

I saw rootbound crag, sacred foundry, a normal mountain, and clifftop, so four. He had enough to play both hellriders. The post swing board state is what I would be most interested in, and whether eric expects the blasphemous act. I'm still not sure why he didn't go for the double rider over his own play, it presents a much more aggresive board state.

[@hzero11]

the reckoner is not broken, is just very good in this format, but is not broken, try it in modern maybe just to see how is exiled with a path, or helixed in the right moment, the true broken card is the boros charm

[@LAZERPEOPLZ]

Good point. Also, didn't mean to offend any noobs out there by saying their questions are dumb. My bad.

[@ichaelma6otheracount]

I may be wrong, but in froelichs position I would have played hellrider mountain, and evolved the gyre sage to play the second hellrider then attacked with both of them. at worst all the reckoners would have been destroyed and it deals 4 off the bat anyway. plus, the next turn with aurelia in play it is insane. That may just be the influence of seeing the other players hand though.

[@twogirlzonemike]

I don't understand where the infinite life thing comes into play

[@ManicTheManic]

what was that guy using to mill joel so much?

[@HanDaimond]

So are mono decks crap now? Or are they playing multicolored decks because of the current block? Or both?

[@ppnickmincucci4185]

No, Tom sacs a doomed traveler to cartel aristocrat, makes a spirit and then blocks aurelia on attack step 2.

[@zhengjing1]

how much red mana did he have?

[@Misterbiggs1]

I would punch Ben Stark if he shuffled my deck like that >_>

[@ApotheosisCM]

Whenever Boros Reckoner is dealt damage, it deals that much damage to target creature or player.

[@djtw34k85]

37:51 - HBO's flagship fantasy show would appreciate this matchup.

[@isaacsmith-walker3331]

Stark vs Martell hah

[@mcainsmaul]

Eric's face when he lost.. lol

[@topshelfstanley2891]

At 33:10, why didn't Ben just dissipate the Maw???

[@TopdeckNuII]

because by just taking a largely irrelevant hit and supreme verdicting next turn he can get a 3-for-1 instead of a 3-for-2. latest reply ever, you're welcome

[@modernminded5466]

You answered 3 months late, here I come 7 months later and reply to you. Guess I hold the record then.

[@topshelfstanley2891]

Well, I don't even remember watching this game lmfao!

[@Tracker947]

ModernMinded 8 months after your comment, I have arrived. Your move.

[@karmajarrule]

Im hoping this comment thread continues :D

[@sango323]

Not how it works basically the word "if" on evolve is what changes this the evolve trigger goes on the stack then it checks the creature when the trigger to evolve resolves when checking the creature it was dead so there was no creature thus no evolve trigger

[@2oblivion21]

WatchingTom Martell is painful ! *Pins in eyes!*

[@SelilaLee]

I got it ,thank you.

[@RealShaun]

Ben Stark... Any `A song of Ice and Fire´ fans here, thinking of Benjen Stark?

[@bwrpwr]

Why do they flip through their hands over and over like that?

[@ItzTheFury]

Thragtusk should've been a legendary creature

[@XxCrankyMoosexX]

Use a comma every once in a while. Please?

[@willlindell8904]

Tom could make a Spirit token off of Doomed Traveler and still have six creature and be on 14 life

[@jasonelric]

On ESPN 8, "The Ocho"

[@Cadian9t]

around 20 minutes, LSV explains it.

[@SpencerBelanger]

shielded passage on theirs. SOO CLUTCH!

[@spedmonger]

It looks like Froehlich and Martell made it to the semifinals by eating their opponents.

[@thegreatmajora13]

your not wrong, though you might wanna be a little more ambitious, if from that position he swung out he would have dealt 8 direct and present lethal. from there martell would setup blocks, I can't read what martell would do from there perfectly, but he would HAVE to get those hellriders off the field. He would lose at least one reckoner, more likely two, and have the gyre sage or reckoner plus aurelia the following turn. Martell's drop from there would rely on a top deck and even then it's slim

[@redeyeskev]

these are pro guys. They don't give a shit about what happen to the cards being shuffled that way lol

[@mellopez6894]

I honestly don't get why tom didnt use the 3 damage to kill the gyre sage and tragic slip the loxodon. could have saved him more time. would have wiped out everything on the board.

[@devon11ist]

It will trigger on the opponents Reckoner first.

[@EdgarMTG]

i'd reckon you're right

[@TheCobraPliskin]

you do realize he´s the pro tour champion...

[@G0DSEND]

It's more because multicolor decks are so easy to play because of the lands available. RDW is stil a very real deck.

[@LLLAAAPPP]

Not to mention that 40 grand that he won no big deal or anything

[@Alex-sn8bm]

'Semfifinals'?

[@HenryScheffer]

Oh thanks, it seemed a little weird.

[@misterhalo2007]

Yes but if your opponent has a reckoner too then you die b4 he does.

[@spencerbilyeu676]

Why didn't he verdict an the resto..... he would have his life and have blocker for any haste, an then he could sphinx the next turn

[@GeorgewhoGen]

Ben i feel sorry for him when he show the first 3 cards of him lib, and then draw the 4th and 5th, he could had sent thunder on top upkeep draw Sphinx.s Rev for 6, go to 4 and then just take game over one last miss play, i think he lost hes optimism at that point, where a player as his calibre should had being calm and even risk all. Augur some times can be a powerful creature to block and sometimes can just solve all your prob's.

[@schmitty1260]

In game 4, when Martell casts Tragic Slip to stop evolve, evolve would still happen because evolve triggers when the creature enters the battlefield, Martell casts Tragic Slip AFTER the Reckoner enters the battlefield, evolve goes on the stack and happens regardless of what happens to the creature after it enters the battlefield.

[@JaxxCrash]

Why? Just because you dont like playing against it?

[@IXPrometheusXI]

Exactly.

[@jbshaver829]

that scarf....why....?

[@piresgtr1]

xD this is from the time when the harlem shake was still a thing

[@jackgillespie4642]

Yep