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@niyr419
@niyr419 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Khan , u the only math mentor that makes sense to me . U get through to many kids , you're a blessing .
@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152 7 жыл бұрын
It took me a while to understand why he took the number of combination and not permutation. While in the video he goes very fast over it, it is not necessary very instinctive. And especially for people trying to learn statistics I feel it's important to understand clearly why choice of formulas are made.
@Mo0m0oSaZn
@Mo0m0oSaZn 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, seriously that was such a great explanation of how to use the concept of combination in probability. I don't think I've ever seen anyone breakdown the intuition of the factorials. So awesome, thanks Khan!
@eatbreakfasts7993
@eatbreakfasts7993 3 жыл бұрын
If someone has to say "hopefully I didn't confuse you" THREE times within a nine minute explanation, it probably wasn't that great of an explanation.
@chopper84a
@chopper84a 11 жыл бұрын
so adding the 'multiply by K!' to the bottom is what turns the permutation formula into a combination formula?
@Slender00000-o
@Slender00000-o 22 күн бұрын
yes❤
@MrPlausibleDenial
@MrPlausibleDenial 10 жыл бұрын
Using the binomial distribution to solve. P(n,x) = nCx * P^n (assuming fair coin), P(8,3) = 8C3 *(1/2)^8 = .21875
@Asmor
@Asmor 13 жыл бұрын
@aew782 Subtract the same number from the exponents on both the top and bottom. Just to keep things clean, let's say it's just 2^3/2^8 = 2^(3-3)/2^(8-3) = 2^0/2^5 = 1 / 2^5. Another way to understand is to expand them out. 2^3/2^8 = (2x2x2)/(2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2). Then you just cancel top and bottom and you're left with 1/2x2x2x2x2 = 1/2^5 Hope that helps!
@vineetdeepika
@vineetdeepika 11 жыл бұрын
@Su Won Lee , Multiplication by 1/2 is done only to find the probabilty of events in a ROW. or one after the other but here the combination method is used to find the probabilty of events happening in any order like i toss a coin 5 times and get heads the 1st,2nd and 3rd time or get heads 1st 3rd and 5th time ; it doesnt matter how i get heads but it matters that i get it exactly 3 times out of the five. and that is what the combination method is used for!
@warpiwarpi3533
@warpiwarpi3533 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another great video! However, at 8:32, Sal writes and says equal to, where it shall be approximately to.
@zeusushh
@zeusushh 2 жыл бұрын
14 years later and I'm here watching this for my exams
@bobby123greenhalgh
@bobby123greenhalgh 15 жыл бұрын
Also just a quick tip for all those out there that don't want to simplify factiorials 8!/3!= 8C3 which is a shortcut on many scientific calculators.
@safwankhan199
@safwankhan199 7 жыл бұрын
Sal Khan can explain like a mathematician, I can imagine him explaining things to classmates. It makes sense why he is the god of probability.
@sachinpednekar6929
@sachinpednekar6929 2 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome teacher! Take it from one of the worst math student! 😊
@chenadam6339
@chenadam6339 6 жыл бұрын
the question that Sal mentioned at 9:02 : 2 out of 100 head. P(2/100H)=(100!/2!*98!)/(2^100) the answer is roughly 3.9*10-27. it's almost impossible to occur! is my calculation correct???
@ZHAOFEIXIANG
@ZHAOFEIXIANG 15 жыл бұрын
tnnx for the tutorial mate, helped alot
@colinwelch5749
@colinwelch5749 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I have a prob test tomorrow and this cleared every ting up for me!!!
@nightmare4eVerr1
@nightmare4eVerr1 14 жыл бұрын
the question would have said then "probability of getting 3 consecutive heads" "exactly 3 heads" means the combination can be of any order (as sal has done) but it should not exceed or be lower than 3
@natymartinez3601
@natymartinez3601 8 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful, I was lost when my teacher taught it but I get it now. Thanks.
@zsomborczoma
@zsomborczoma 4 жыл бұрын
7:58 - Who else said "Yes" when he asked, is that right?
@swfsql
@swfsql Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This wasn't intuitive to me before I saw your explanation! So in terms of chairs.. For the # of 3 heads, the way to think of this is that each coin toss is a person (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H) and you're gonna select 3 persons to sit on the "3 heads chairs", and since you only care about their selection and not their arrangement, you do 8P3/3P3. Also this should be the same as selecting 5 persons to sit on the "5 tails chairs", in which case you'd do 8P5/5P5, which is the same result.
@SubZero90Gaming
@SubZero90Gaming 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very helpful!
@tharunishadi3980
@tharunishadi3980 12 жыл бұрын
probability is easy for me now.. thanks to you...thank you sir!
@Musicjuice12345
@Musicjuice12345 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir😮
@Roleplayer40K
@Roleplayer40K 10 жыл бұрын
Assuming this is true, then 5 heads out of 8 flips is also 21.875% chance of occurring. Another problem also happens when you flip a coin 4 times and want head 3 out of those 4 flips. Using the tree method the result is 31.25% but using this method the answer is 25%
@understandingmaths1033
@understandingmaths1033 9 жыл бұрын
You are correct that the probability of 5 heads is also 21.875%. It's not so surprising if you visualise the distribution curve, which has a classic symmetry. The tree method for 4 coin tosses should identify four pathways: THHH, HHTH, HHHT or HTHH. Each of these has a 1/16 probability, so adding these together equals 4/16 = 0.25 (25%). Hope that helps!
@TasyaAdzkiya
@TasyaAdzkiya Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I THINK the reason why the formula of finding the probability of (in this case) 3 heads out of 8 coin flips = (the total number of groups of 3 heads of 8 coin flips, which fits our constraint because we want to know the probability of getting 3 heads out of 8 coin flips)/(the total number of possible outcomes) is because it's just the same as other probability formula. Plain ol' probability formula. The numerator, which is the number of POSSIBLE events that fits our constraints (which, in this case is the number of groups of 3 heads out of 8 coin flips) is divided by the denominator, which is the total number of possible outcomes. To find the number of events (or in this case, the number of groups of 3 heads out of 8 coin flips), we use combination because we don't care about the orders. We only care about specific combination of 3 heads from which coin flips (is it the 1st coin flip that result in head, and so on) is in a group. And those groups of 3 heads are just the possible event that we may get, which means that if we were to win 3 heads out of 8 coin flips, we will get one of the combinations of groups of 3 heads (which, in this case, there are 56 of them). (It's just my assumption, correct me if I'm wrong) It's similar to the probability of getting 1 green ball out of 3 green balls and 2 yellow balls. It would be 3 (the total possible events that fit our constraints, which are the green balls)/5 (the total of all possible events/balls that we may choose).
@saithiha525
@saithiha525 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Khan! it helps me a lot
@atomikrobot300099
@atomikrobot300099 14 жыл бұрын
You can your binomPDF( function on your "average" graphing calculator to do this @8:51...
@LazLoGirL
@LazLoGirL 13 жыл бұрын
..this actually helped.. thank you :)
@burnsyy9119
@burnsyy9119 12 жыл бұрын
The probability of getting a head is 1/2.Where does that fit into this formula?
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a different way to approach this that's more intuitive? I know there are at least 2 ways. Adding a second method woudl double the approaches
@VijfMiljard
@VijfMiljard 5 жыл бұрын
In a previous vid Sal talked about putting n people on k chairs. I think he should gave followed that logic here. Placing 8 people in 3 chairs is similar to distributing 8 flips over 3 heads. That is, if you don't care about order.
@davidmartin123
@davidmartin123 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you confused me. Too many extraneous analogies e.g choosing people in a car. Confine your narrative to the specific problem statement domain (coin flips).
@trevorhawke8183
@trevorhawke8183 9 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS
@sharastar8806
@sharastar8806 7 жыл бұрын
Trevor Hawke my son
@majidsheraz8098
@majidsheraz8098 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Khan Academy
@bobby123greenhalgh
@bobby123greenhalgh 15 жыл бұрын
ask your teacher at school how to do probability trees, You can solve this problem using probability trees as your method.
@dhanushronaldo5378
@dhanushronaldo5378 Жыл бұрын
For ESC512 exam you have a list of 10 problems and you may solve 6 of them. However, for the exam I am going to use at random only 5 problems from the list I provided. What is the probability that you may solve all 5 problems from the exam?
@srinalla6328
@srinalla6328 14 күн бұрын
thanks
@PriyanshuKumar-wc4vh
@PriyanshuKumar-wc4vh 5 жыл бұрын
Boy Permutations and communication is making probability tough.
@m3tm4n
@m3tm4n 13 жыл бұрын
Can you calculate the total outcome with the combination formula??
@deepkushagra
@deepkushagra 7 жыл бұрын
How do I decide which is n and which is k where am I going wrong when I say - there are 8 slots and 3 Heads have to fit in those. So, n=3 and k=8
@khadijahflowers5566
@khadijahflowers5566 7 жыл бұрын
This is sort of late, but when we look at which numbers to assign to 'n' and 'k' we look at what we are choosing out of. In this example we wanted 3 Heads but we have 8 possible points in our experiment where we could get Heads, but we only want 3, so since we are choosing 3 things from 8 n = 8 and k = 3. I try to think of it as "I have n items, but I only want k of them. So out of these n items, I'm choosing k."
@GabrielFrosty
@GabrielFrosty 11 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know if mtshibingu is right in his factorial calculation?
@thedisguisedmaster
@thedisguisedmaster 15 жыл бұрын
Ok, now I got combinations. During the combinations video I was totally confused.
@raborarmatthewghie959
@raborarmatthewghie959 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much😁i think i could pass my exam tomorrow*😁*
@maxspringfield
@maxspringfield 8 жыл бұрын
there are 'factorials' now?
@nongthongbamkishan54
@nongthongbamkishan54 10 жыл бұрын
thank u sir!!!
@polaroidfair
@polaroidfair 14 жыл бұрын
who noticed that this Sal guy teaches everythg..maths, physics? i noe i did
@Fall7timestandup8
@Fall7timestandup8 6 жыл бұрын
Sir ..plzz use a light background...
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 5 жыл бұрын
Nooo, dark is much easier on the eyes, especially for those who study after class, after work, etc.
@gohanwanabe
@gohanwanabe 8 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't all possible outcomes be 16?
@mtshibingu
@mtshibingu 11 жыл бұрын
is it not 112 (8*7*2), if you divided the 3! with the 6 of the 8! thus the rest of the question is 112/256= 43.75?
@jobanpreetmasko
@jobanpreetmasko 4 жыл бұрын
Watching after 12 years
@BlazeMrdr
@BlazeMrdr 12 жыл бұрын
couldnt one of those 3 flips be tails? like i understand the formula but doesnt that just give u the number of ways can arrange 3 flips out of a total of 8? doesnt that 56 include any tails?
@HDSQ
@HDSQ 6 жыл бұрын
But its 240p
@sunilupadhyay6225
@sunilupadhyay6225 6 жыл бұрын
But it is shot in 2008
@zsomborczoma
@zsomborczoma 4 жыл бұрын
The seven dwarfs became the eight flips! If you don't get the joke, you didn't watch the video, or you didn't pay attention!
@bigboy321321321
@bigboy321321321 11 жыл бұрын
wat grade level is this for?
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 5 жыл бұрын
Anywhere after 5th/6th I"d imagine. But you might do this even at a community college or intro to statistics.
@dbapple
@dbapple 3 ай бұрын
Please someone can explain it to me? i cannot understand
@bogdandospinescu12
@bogdandospinescu12 13 жыл бұрын
There is sth wrong to the demonstration. If we the same formula to find out for example the probability of getting 4 heads in 8 flips, than we have 27%, and is clearly that the probability should be 50%
@gohanwanabe
@gohanwanabe 8 жыл бұрын
Why did he do 2^8 instead of 2*8?
@zoolander0700
@zoolander0700 8 жыл бұрын
With general notation, 2^8 is 2 to the power of 8 where 2*8 is 2 multiplied by 8
@gohanwanabe
@gohanwanabe 8 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you flip a coin 8 times you going to get heads or tails, correct? So that means 2*8 not 2^8
@zoolander0700
@zoolander0700 8 жыл бұрын
gohan wanabe yes but we are interested in the possible combinations not just one set. An example you can do yourself is writing the possible combinations of 3 tosses, it isn't 2x3 (6) but 2^3 (8)
@shazaduh
@shazaduh 15 жыл бұрын
"I am the god of probability" hahaha...
@squidyplays859
@squidyplays859 4 жыл бұрын
This comment was 10 years ago, mine will be too one day
@sameenaz2006
@sameenaz2006 14 жыл бұрын
I like turtles !
@wolfnorth7075
@wolfnorth7075 22 күн бұрын
His numeric calculation is wrong. he presented 8 flips, then he did a 8C3=56, that is wrong, his definition of numerator is 3 Heads out of the 8 flips. But the 8C3 is just pick the 3 flip results (Head or Tail) from the 8 flips.
@bhz10
@bhz10 14 жыл бұрын
this... confused.... the FUCK.... out of me.
@spiderjump
@spiderjump 7 жыл бұрын
there are 56 combinations in which you get 3 H out of 8 flips. HHHTTTTT THHHTTTT TTHHHTTT and so on... therefore the prob of getting exactly 3 heads out of 8 = (0.5)^8×56
@tricky92x
@tricky92x 7 жыл бұрын
I think I understand it this way better.
@Serenityindailylife
@Serenityindailylife 5 ай бұрын
How many cars flipped after being high on special K? After the people died, you were found picking their seats... gross
@kramerknipe4332
@kramerknipe4332 6 жыл бұрын
I dont know why you didn't just use the nCr function that you would use on a calculator in school.
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 5 жыл бұрын
Because you need to understand how a concept works before you just go punching keys, especially when you later have to combine expressions. You have to know what they really mean and how they affect each other.
@Foamy_Bubbles
@Foamy_Bubbles 5 ай бұрын
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@tdinh08
@tdinh08 11 жыл бұрын
no bud, pay attention lol , exactly 4 head is 27%, it would be 50% if u add 4 head or less, meaning 4 heads, 3 heads, 2 heads, 1 head.
@christineren109
@christineren109 7 жыл бұрын
any armys here?!????????XD
@Bot-tm7hs
@Bot-tm7hs 6 жыл бұрын
It took so long to find that one combination. Just use a calculator for that part irl
@ifechukwujohnpaulumeh3740
@ifechukwujohnpaulumeh3740 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t understand a thing
@NiftyFingers
@NiftyFingers 12 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good channel. Keep it up man!
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