Problematic Morphs With Health Issues

[@JessicasAnimalFriends]

What a great video, and such an important topic! Silkback beardies make me incredibly sad, too. And I was more than glad to help with the leopard gecko morphs!

[@reptiliangarden]

Jessica’s Animal Friends You are the best!!! 😘😘😘

[@lbeard7661]

You two are two of my favorites, and I'm so glad y'all are friends.

[@Fayleafowl]

That's the clip lip I remember watching your video it make me sad to that people just want to breed more beautiful color and there fan base gets mad for being called out.

[@therealgenevieve]

Idk if you’d categorize them as a “morph” but scaleless ball pythons have always rubbed me the wrong way. Breeding out a part of a snakes physiology (heat pits) just to get an animal that feels or looks cool just doesn’t seem totally ethical to me. Breeders gotta start doing more research on the effects morphs have on the snakes before they start breeding.

[@reptiliangarden]

Genevieve Dietz I completely agree. I don’t understand the appeal at all

[@Fayleafowl]

Don't want to name names but they breed scaleless corn snakes and say there so beautiful and am like I like this person but no there scales are there for a reason.

[@codygoins8832]

If they are in the wild that’s one thing but in captivity. Scales corn snakes aren’t a problem. I have two of them and they are never stressed or anything however I do not put them under a basking bulb. I have them on heat mat with a thermostat at 84 degrees just in case. I’ve never seen a problem occur with either of them. I get it but I believe most of this is speculation I’ve had normal ball pythons with serious wobble. Took him to vet multiple times trying to figure it out. Btw I also have two regular okeetee corns. The scaless corns I have have been better with shedding than the normals. Same bedding also I do put in a humid hide for all my snakes when they go into shed. Here is the problem here.. she said multiple times there has been studies... well where and who did them bc if it’s just going by problems that pet owners have had. They attribute automatically to the specifc morph and I’m here to tell you when you own a lot of snakes. Crap happens with the wild type as well. Snakes are born in the wild with genetic deficiencies. Now the spider gene does tend to be a bad python morph all around and also stay away from silkie bearded dragons as well. That’s because they have to have a heat lamp. Those are proven of course but others she had mentioned is just speculation over a few instances that just so happened to be a specific morph. Just breed wild type corns. You’ll see what I mean. Btw also both my corns are completely unrelated to one another. I’m not a fan of line breeding either

[@FraustoKennels]

Dummy they already know the effects

[@eyelovelamp1]

I don't have a problem with scaleless head gene bp's though

[@skylyra413]

I think that there is a problem with sunkissed corn snakes. They have similiar neurological problems as spider ball pythons. It's called stargazing. I don't know very much about it though

[@reptiliangarden]

Skylyra I think I read something about that morph as well. Thank you for adding it

[@queersnakelady9590]

Thankfully stargazer works kinda like amelanism and can be tested out. Also stargazer has been seen in almost all morphs of cornsnakes, because breeders used to be careless. At least in Finland they test sunkisseds before using them in breeding.

[@codygoins8832]

That’s also depends on who the parents of the snakes were I read the same. I think the problem is with line breeding not the actual morph itself. It’s how people want to make them.

[@lucasdelaere2634]

Silky bearded dragons are so awful ! Breeding them is just cruelty.

[@mondsoldat7106]

Thank you for mentioning morphs other than spider with wobble!! I really just want to encourage people to do their research when purchasing bps, especially to look into the morph they're interested in. There are so many names of morph combinations that have issues, such as soul sucker, calider, spinner inferno, mimosa, etc. All of those and more have a wobble-gene in it!

[@reptiliangarden]

Pterodactyl Tea Thank you for adding them to the list! I didn’t find those ones online. I wish these were mentioned more 😭

[@whxndigo]

I’ve heard that lily white cresties have neurological problems on their own, but I haven’t done enough research to confirm that.

[@quotingstardust7504]

There is less than a 5% chance that a lilywhite Crestie will have very slight neurological issues, the people producing them are being really careful about it and if they see anything severe they will stop breeding the morph

[@thereptigade7507]

Wow so much valuable info! Not really a morph guy, tho admittedly some are truly stunning. But one on my list was actually a champagne ball simply coz they are so different. Not gonna happen now so cudos to you for preventing unnecessary suffering in my reptile fam 👍🏽 also I'm glad that you might have found some closure on Vendetta's untimely passing, thinking of him every time when I look at my girls stache 💚 Rip lil V...

[@reptiliangarden]

Oliver The Reptigade I’m not into morphs much either but champagne was one of my dream ball pythons. But I don’t want to promote breeding snakes with issues, so I won’t be getting one. And it definitely gave me some closure, but now I’m nervous to ever get any boa morph in the future. 😭 Thank you for your support!

[@Fayleafowl]

I wanted an Admiral ball but to much is going on and I love the non morphs because I love there beautiful patterns.

[@Gabby4538]

I really appreciate this video shining a light on other reptiles than just snakes with morphs that are very problematic. Spreading this knowledge and awareness is very important especially in the pet community because this isn’t really spoken of alot❤️

[@ahabby5513]

I know most palmeto corn snakes get bug eyes. Which doesn't affect their quality of life, just makes them look silly. Similar to the ball pythons with bug eyes

[@reptiliangarden]

Abby's Animals Thank you for adding it! 💕

[@codygoins8832]

True. I am a breeder of corns, hogs, and pythons. My point on this stuff is that breeders need to pay for unrelated Hets instead of inbreeding to get certain morphs. That’s where the problems lie. It’s not in the morph itself.. it’s what some breeders are doing to achieve those morphs. I’m firmly against it. My scaless corns are unrelated and have had wonderful problem free babies. I never ever have anyone complain about my scaless babies or my Tesseras or any others I produce bc I always make sure that the breeding pair are unrelated.

[@benjaminbrandon8197]

As a Boa Constrictor breeder, I just wanted to help you a little bit with your research. You are right about the Super Motley having issues, but it's more commonly related to the Colombian strain. There are multiple strains of Motley, and the Central American strain has shown to not have the issues of the Colombian(there are also a few other strains of Motley like the Argentine). Also, the Jungle issue you referenced at the beginning of the Boa conversation, I just wanted to clear up that it's not the single copy of the Jungle gene that has issues, but only the Super Jungle(the result of breeding Jungle x Jungle and the offspring receiving the trait from both parents). And as far as the eye issues you mentioned with breeding Albino to Albino: this is slightly outdated. This issue did exist about 10-15 years ago, but so much outcrossing has been done, that you can pretty safely breed Albino to Albino in Boa Constrictors nowadays. Also, there's the issue mixing the Motley and Keltic genes. It's an allelic relationship that essentially creates a super form when mixing, and this particular pairing has proven to mostly be fatal(though there has been recent discovery of a possible strain of Motley that is compatible with Keltic). Also, the Scoria Boa has been known to have some neurological issues such as wobble and star-gazing, but there has been a lot of outcrossing in recent years, and this issue is proving to be more few and far between. There are a few other minor ones I'm spacing at the moment, but these more directly relate to this conversation. Hope this helps.

[@reptiliangarden]

Benjamin Brandon You are seriously a gift from heaven. Thank you so, so much for all of your knowledge on this. You have been extremely helpful. I really appreciate it!

[@benjaminbrandon8197]

@@reptiliangarden NO problem at all! Happy to help.

[@nathanw.2398]

Blood red corn snakes are also known to sometimes have neurological issues

[@lana-rm1vi]

Time stamps: (Click on the text for more, I don’t know what it’s all not showing up) 2:58 Ball Pythons 8:06 Bearded Dragons 11:00 Leopard Geckos 14:45 Boa constrictors 18:01 Milk Snakes 18:23: Corn Snakes 18:46 Carpet Pythons

[@IrieRogue]

So glad you covered beardies, too! Great video Trisha 👏👏👏 I didn't know there was an issue with the jungle gene in boas, this was so educational and full of important info!

[@reptiliangarden]

Irie Rogue I wasn’t aware of a lot of these! It was surprising since we mainly only hear about the spider ball python

[@autumnbehon942]

I've seen so many KZbinrs show off the silkies, but never address the health issues! I'm so glad you mentioned it, I always thought that the lack of scales could cause problem and to have it confirmed is very reassuring. I don't want to have a morph that can have serious issues, it's not fair to the dragon and people should stop making them. Thank you for this information!

[@saveriopanaccione996]

Guess I’m taking scale less bearded dragons off my list

[@birder5914]

Thank’s so much for making this video!! A lot of people just buy animals that they think are pretty, but the animals quality of life is just not good. Thank you so much

[@igl00.227]

when you cross two lily white crested geckos, you get unviable luecistics that form in the egg and are unable to hatch

[@matthewellis2585]

Yes! Finally! People need to be talking more about this! I’ve never liked morphs for many reasons, largely for how unnatural they look. I fell in love with snakes back in the mid-80’s not the pretty wardrobe accessories that it seems the hobby has devolved into! We need to be understanding the individual species and their natural environment and ecosystems, not creating hundreds of sickly but colorful ball pythons, beardies and boas. Our concern should be about wild conservation, education and the health and well being of the animals we love. In the 90’s when breeders all started this stuff I remember thinking “they are breeding out all of the unique ways that these amazing creatures have developed to survive in the wild”! Imagine a white snake in nature! That’s literally just ringing the dinner bell for predators. That is why albinism is so rare. They get culled naturally before they pass on the genes. I also feel like sadly diversity has left the hobby. Instead of a person learning about the unique care requirements for an Asian rat snake, a bull snake and a Burmese python, they just learn a “one size fits all” care sheet for a hundred different colored boas. It’s really a step backwards in herp keeping.

[@cryptic_cuties5875]

thank you for making this video! I have been contemplating a silkie bearded dragon but I had no idea about all the issues. Now I know I will never get one and support the breeding of them!

[@amandacruz-fraticelli7007]

Your little dogs ears are adorable! 🐕❤️

[@reptiliangarden]

Amanda Cruz-Fraticelli Thank you 😭💕

[@lkynum13]

On morphmarket, one of the bearded dragon breeders always adds the following disclaimer to their zero morphs "All of my Zeros are products of het x het pairing. This ensures strong healthy babies." This seems to imply that non-het pairing are not strong/healthy. This could just be a sales gimmick or it could be indicative of a common issue with that morph.

[@lindsayschmidt2177]

“Het” is not a morph.

[@AuroraExotics]

Great video, important stuff. I can offer a little more boa info. It's very frowned upon in the boa community to breed motley to motley, though there are two versions of motley (Colombian and Central American), and the CA super motleys tend to do better than the Colombian, but still have severe enough problems where they shouldn't be reproduced. Then there are the Scoria boas, which are beautiful, but often exhibit a wobble issue similar to the one seen in Spider and Champagne ball pythons. Aztec is a beautiful morph but like Jungle and Motley, the super form also has problems. It is possible that with selective breeding over time, some of these issues could be bred out (some of the first corn snake morphs were very weak, but are very strong now). Definitely an ethics game. If you ever wanna chat boas, hit me up! They've been my passion for 10+ years. :D

[@Fayleafowl]

Yes thank you I was trying to remember the champagne along with any pythons that have any of these genes present are a no for me.

[@GogeeReptileCuddles]

Ok I get that these animals are unique but people ever sat and looked at the beauty of a python or boa or Fer de Lance? All reptiles are stunning in their own skins. I welcome healthy unstressed animals in trade who live rich full lives.

[@drikonrokon852]

this isn't a reptile but the Scottish Fold which is a cat bred to have cartilage issues that in the beginning only effects their ears then eventually their entire joints suffer to the point they have to be put down

[@Katie-c1s]

Super Aztecs in Boa Constrictors are thought to be nonviable and suffer from wobble syndrome. Scaleless in ball pythons (and any other sort of snake, really) may also be consider defective. Like silkies, they are a lot more susceptible to being burned from UVB, their skin is a lot more sensitive as they don't have that protective layer, they have trouble shedding particularly as babies (which Kevin McCurley from NERD who produces these animals has gone on record saying in his own videos!!), their skin is hypersensitive, etc. Many large herpetologists such as Tom Crutchfield have gone on record condemning the intentional production of these animals. He made a post about it when an image of a large, obese, gravid scaleless burmese python went viral on his facebook.

[@basicbaroque]

Such an important topic. Love your channel! ❤️

[@reptiliangarden]

Stephanie Putnam Thank you!!!

[@simonsimon5694]

any sources for the thing about jungle boas would be much appreciated i was really struggling to find anything other than forums of people mentioning super jungles. i just bought a jungle boa in February around 1 1/2 years old so i definitely wanna read anything i can regarding potential issues

[@LoveBittenVamp]

Thank you for making this video! Years ago I had a blizzard gecko I'd gotten from a reptile show and she was so skittish and so aggressive. Just getting her out to clean her tank was very difficult.

[@v.caveda]

This is a wonderful compilation of information! I'm interested in buying a BP and when I found out that many commonly bred morphs have KNOWN issues I was absolutely floored. Can I get a clarification at 6:29 though? Is it that kinking is known to happen when breeding Super Black Pastels with Super Cinnamons TOGETHER, or that these individual morphs are predisposed to being born with kinking on their own?

[@nataliesreptiles]

I was super suprised to hear about blizzard leopard geckos having behavioral issues. I've had my blizzard leopard gecko for 7 years. Obviously when I first got her she was nervous, but now she's a normal leopard gecko. Guess I must have lucked out there.

[@HoundofOdin]

I really hope we can get more research done on these morphs. The more accurate information we have the better decisions we will be able to make. We need facts, not strongly held opinions.

[@incineroar9933]

I rescued my spider ball python, and giving her a larger enclosure with more room and things to climb seems to have helped her significantly. I wasn't planning on getting her, so it took a while to get her a large enclosure, even with her stunted size. She has plenty of cover, hides, substrate, and climbing opportunities. I'd love to let her swim, but I'm worried about her getting disoriented. She's entirely stopped corkscrewing, and her wobble has gotten a lot better. I think being able to use her muscles and exercise helps. She went from a 4 1/2 foot snake in a 3x2x2 foot enclosure to a 5 foot snake in a 7x4x4 foot snake. She's pretty old, too, we were originally debating euthanizing her due to her poor condition, but I worked with her and started taking her out and encouraging her to climb on me, and she's improved so much that she managed to escape her top opening enclosure all on her own. We found her real fast and fixed the mesh. I'd have her in a front opening one, but they're not easy to find. Still looking for something to upgrade her.

[@3_up_moon]

I'm so glad someone is bringing this up. All I see in the trade now are these inbred, line-bred morphs. Not a "normal" to be seen unless it's WC! It's insane.

[@alanahbrown590]

The duckbill is so cute🥹🐍

[@brookeelle6879]

I noticed she mentioned albino x albino being an issue with one of the snakes. Does anyone know if that’s an issue with albino x albino carpet pythons? Thanks! 💕

[@probablyobvious1286]

I have an enigma morph myself and she is a sweetheart. She really only shows symptoms when she is stressed and is SUPER food aggressive.

[@beandrag9019]

Hi! I know of a crested gecko morph that’s fatal when you mix two Lilly whites together, they create pure white babies that don’t hatch and if they do live very shortly

[@WhiskeyQuests]

Great video. Thanks so much since I’m considering a leopard gecko. Sharing this with others. I had no clue a lot of these morphs had issues. 😯😟

[@user-pj6py3ok8o]

I heard from a pretty reliable source that the spider ball python gene comes from and is found in the wild in africa.

[@syrazaanzerthon1148]

Yes, the first spider was found in the wild, but they are rare anomalies because of how difficult it is for them to survive and thrive on their own. Anomalies happen all the time in nature, but breeding them deliberatively is a whole different story.

[@raye0826]

There are also albino and leucistic animals of various kinds out in the wild, but it's the same thing -- there are only a few because they're rarely able to survive.

[@danielb8177]

HI! thanks x the info... I've joined the hobby and actually thinking on getting a beautiful bearded dragon and omg why would people try to come with this in the first place, aren't they beautiful enough already, anyways I'm glad to have such useful information! you do a great job love from Europe Gardener!

[@negronjr7853]

Thanks! You're appreciated

[@Ms3queen]

Some people compare the spider wobble and enigma syndrome to autism, but as an autistic person myself with several autistic friends and relatives, I must point out that there are a few big differences between the neuro issues of these morphs and human autism. Yes, outwardly, in some ways, they can look similar, but...we know up from down. These animals don’t seem to know up from down. We spin to deal with the world and to express ourselves. Enigma syndrome geckos spin because they don’t know they’re spinning. Generally speaking, our motor skill issues don’t affect our ability to eat (unless, of course, we are discussing certain food packages clearly not built for clumsy hands 😜), but these guys can’t even get their heads near the food. (Outside of annoying packages, yes, many autistic people, including myself, have trouble with certain foods being a sensory issue, but that is very different from LITERALLY NOT KNOWING HOW TO EAT.) And the more severe the enigma syndrome or spider wobble, the less it looks like how autism presents in a human.

[@GogeeReptileCuddles]

A very timely and informing dialog. I’m sure you have seen discussions on Clint’s Reptiles

[@reptiliangarden]

P H Thank you! I have not! I’ll have to check it out

[@vertigo_virgo6380]

Thank goodness the ball python morphs I loved are safe for the snake! My favorite morphs are piebald and Banana.

[@kolesaurusdickinsoni364]

Great video! I learned a lot and it really sucks that a lot of these morphs are still bred. Just one thing to add would be the white and yellow leopard geckos. To my knowledge, they have many of the same problems as enigmas. Definitely fact check me though as I could be wrong

[@reptiliangarden]

Kolesaurus dickinsoni I think you are right! I forgot to mention it, so thank you for adding it

[@syrazaanzerthon1148]

From my info, unlike Emigma, neurological problems in W&Y leos are not dirrectly tied to the W&Y gene, but rather is a different gene that comes paired with it. Some breeders claim to have outbred the problems from their genetical lines, but most W&Y leopard gecko's for sale most likely are still bred from lines that carry those bad genes associated with the morph. So definitely a morph to be careful about currently.

[@GuilhermeOliveira-vs7uh]

I’ve never heard of super snow being smaller my female super snow is 9,5 inches and has broad shoulders no problems at all. In fact in my country this morph is associated to big females

[@lera7634]

Are the ball pythons born with these things or do they develop them as they grow?

[@Fluidspoon]

Are there any problematic hognose snake morphs?

[@DangernoodleDave]

Does anyone know if cinder/lavender cornsnakes have any issues? I ask because I have a rescue (Witty Pebbles 🐍) and apparently he had issues with breeding and injuring himself. Could this be an issue with the morph?

[@frankrelmar5903]

Great information great video thanks kiddo

[@sheridanrae9854]

I just got a baby veiled chameleon a few days ago, and this morning she started making this high pitched squealing/wheezing noise. I’m not sure if it’s just a stress thing where she’s still acclimating or if it’s a serious problem. I don’t know where to find help

[@avatarno1defender]

Oh I just finished watching, also a lily white x lily white crested gecko will die

[@reptiliangarden]

Charlotte Stickland I meant to mention it and forgot! Thank you for adding it in a comment! 😘😘😘

[@marytwinflamessoulfamunite7102]

Do you know if there are any issues with an Albino African Fat Tail Gecko? And are there any problematic morphs for African Fat Tail Geckos?

[@codygoins8832]

Cody Goins If they are in the wild that’s one thing but in captivity. Scales corn snakes aren’t a problem. I have two of them and they are never stressed or anything however I do not put them under a basking bulb. I have them on heat mat with a thermostat at 84 degrees just in case. I’ve never seen a problem occur with either of them. I get it but I believe most of this is speculation I’ve had normal ball pythons with serious wobble. Took him to vet multiple times trying to figure it out. Btw I also have two regular okeetee corns. The scaless corns I have have been better with shedding than the normals. Same bedding also I do put in a humid hide for all my snakes when they go into shed. Here is the problem here.. she said multiple times there has been studies... well where and who did them bc if it’s just going by problems that pet owners have had. They attribute automatically to the specifc morph and I’m here to tell you when you own a lot of snakes. Crap happens with the wild type as well. Snakes are born in the wild with genetic deficiencies. Now the spider gene does tend to be a bad python morph all around and also stay away from silkie bearded dragons as well. That’s because they have to have a heat lamp. Those are proven of course but others she had mentioned is just speculation over a few instances that just so happened to be a specific morph. Just breed wild type corns. You’ll see what I mean. Btw also both my corns are completely unrelated to one another. I’m not a fan of line breeding eitheR. I think that’s where most of these problems come from. It’s the way breeders are line breeding just to not spend money on unrelated Hets. It’s not a morph problem it’s a long line of incest breeding going on to achieve those morphs that’s the problem

[@carlosarizcun_97]

What about the recent neurological problems discovered in whiteout oreo aft geckos? i don't know if they are common or not, but there are cases, great video by the way!

[@Danimalsfan]

Lily white crested geckos have neuro issues!

[@calvinwon5113]

Leopard gecko morphs confuse me too. Mostly because a majority of them just look all the same to me😇 Also, I think scaleless reptile morphs look super weird. I guess that’s all a preference thing. It’s a shame the jag carpet python morph is connected with issues. It’s a very attractive morph, especially the axanthic jags. But dealing with a carpet python with a neurological disorder would be difficult, since they tend to be more on the reactive side. Confusion can cause them to panic😰 I think at the core of this fascination with morphs, it all has to do with novelty. People become desensitized to things they see regularly. So the novelty of new and exciting color varieties offers a dopamine hit that people can become addicted to. Believe it or not, an addiction to producing and purchasing reptile morphs can stimulate the same reward pathway as cocaine and heroin😂 Think about it.... When you see people spending several thousands of dollars on a single animal because they HAVE to have it, you can see that it clearly provokes similar destructive behaviors that are associated with drug, gambling, and alcohol addictions. It’s a very real thing, and it’s scary! I’m addicted to your channel, btw😉🤙

[@andreheise1170]

My spider has absolutely no wobble. It's right that some exemplars have mild to severe wobble as you said. And one should know of it before buying or breeding. But not all have a wobble. A mild wobble wouldn't affect the snakes live in captivity at all. Frozen thawed rodents don't tend to avoid a ball pythons strike and many spiders are known to be very good eaters. My spider tends to get fat easily and he is a big one. I would never breed scaleless pythons. I don't care if others do, but I personally think snakes without scales are more like big worms. It has a reason that snakes have scales. But one could argue as I did above. As long as the snake thrives in captivity it doesn't matter much.

[@Sixpathsage999]

Hello, so you discussed risky morphs. Do you have any info on what type of morphs are healthier?

[@nightprowess1244]

I am interested in and plan to breed ball pythons in the future and I was planning on buying both a female and male yellow belly albino het pied from someone but he told me that you shouldn't breed an albino to an albino because even though it works out fine most of the time, sometimes the offspring can be "weaker." I asked what he meant by that and if he had a source for it (because I can't find anything on this anywhere!) but he didn't really help clarify or provide a source, he just said experienced breeders know this and new breeders might not. So, is this true? Is it possible breeding an albino to an albino can result in some offspring that maybe are more prone to health issues or have a weaker immune system or something? Any insight on this would be really helpful!

[@nezumidjinn5547]

good info !! this is exactly why i don`t like morphs the lifespan of an animal should not depend on how long the intestines last it`s not fair to the animal and also not to person who bought it.

[@snakemannn1744]

great information ,,,,, thanks

[@markmoore3059]

Is a Silk bearded dragon the same as a leather back?

[@connykersey698]

Mark Moore, no they’re not the same. A leatherbacks has ‘normal’ skin and their back is smooth.

[@rhubiperez2946]

Does anyone know if the banana morph has any issues?

[@samrenn9166]

I looked it up and they do not. I'm not sure tho.

[@harleysosbe272]

what about the bamboo morph?

[@benediktdgjkll7203]

In addition to being really sensitive I think those red albino eyes look kinda creepy and unnatural

[@josephgriesgraber5498]

Are Mack snow leopard geckos risky to buy?

[@x_sweetroses_x6887]

I have a spider ball python he is my first snake I new about the the spider and about the defect and I was against and I never thought I will get one but then I started looking more and mores into it I’m opinion start to change and I was willing to get one I found a Beautiful spider ball python and I new that was the snake I wanted he a little wobble it if u didn’t know what a spider was u would think he was just normal I feel like if u have a spider or and animal with any defect u should always do your best for that snake and be committed to take care of that snake so if my snake have a bad wobble I honestly will still be committed to working with him and helping him if need so you should truly love your animals and reptiles with pure love and be able to support them.

[@weiniebandit]

do banana ball pythons or reg. Albino or the one that looks kinda pink, do they have any health issues?

[@hannahthefallenangel788]

Bananas are found in the while. Albinos are sensitive to light like they shouldnt have uvb.

[@hannahthefallenangel788]

The normal ones are just normal

[@hannahthefallenangel788]

The pink one? Idk which that is

[@genavevesander4088]

And now I'm lowkey freaking out cause I have a male hypo jungle boa who will be a year old next month. If I lost him I'd be very upset. If anyone has any info or maybe a jungle themselves I'd like to talk.

[@reptiliangarden]

Genaveve Sander I am wishing you guys well. The one sign that I was able to notice with mine one day was that one pupil was larger than the other. This can be neurological or a side affect of IBD which I have heard is common for boas to have. It’s frustrating because with these issues boas don’t show a lot of signs. You can have them tested at the vet for ibd though. I just think there needs to be more research on the morphs.

[@genavevesander4088]

@@reptiliangarden Thank you I will keep an eye on him. Just sucks cause they're both my little babies. I've heard about the super jungles and stuff but not just jungles

[@benjaminbrandon8197]

@@genavevesander4088 You're not going to have an issue with your Jungle, unless it's a Super Jungle. I'm almost positive what happened with the poster's Boa, is that it developed IBD, or some other condition that has nothing to do with the morph. I'm a Boa breeder, and I can tell you that any Jungle(single gene Jungle) that is taken care of properly(minus freak medical issues, of course), is going to live a long, full life. I wouldn't worry about it. Jungle is one of the most widespread genes in the Boa market, and it wouldn't be that way if they were all dying.

[@naimkaori]

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[@reptiliangarden]

Naim Kaori We all appreciate the love 😘💕✨

[@naimkaori]

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[@caragelbart8581]

This is not just true for reptiles. There are similar issues in certain dog breeds which exhibit the "Merle" gene, such as Australian shepherds which have the really pretty blueish gray or red, black, and white spotted coats, and often blue eyes. They're very pretty and are highly sought after. Breeders can usually charge more for these animals. BUT if two merles are bred together, it can cause double merle syndrome or "lethal white", which can cause blindness, deafness or both, and other health problems. Irresponsible breeders think they'll have a higher chance of creating pretty Merle patterned animals (and therefore yielding more money) by breeding two merles together, but it is so horrible for their health of the animal. Super unethical because it is completely under human control.

[@reptiliangarden]

Cara Gelbart omg I didn’t know that about Merle dogs. 😭 thank you so much for sharing this info.

[@caragelbart8581]

@@reptiliangarden regular Merles are just fine. It's only when two of them are bred. Genetics are really interesting!

[@GogeeReptileCuddles]

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[@somebarf]

I'm not sure if you've mentioned it elsewhere, but I'm curious to know what credentials you have in reptile care. How long have you owned them? Do you have any relevant formal education or career experience?

[@GogeeReptileCuddles]

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[@moo9874]

Why do people breed scaleless animals in the first place? Idk if this an unpopular opinion or not but I don't think they're that pretty..they just look wrong (couldn't think of a less harsh way of putting it)

[@andreheise1170]

Why are there so many different dog breeds today? As long as the animals don't have guaranteed, severe issues/health issues I wouldn't jugde people for breeding them. Some minor issues/health issues are acceptable, especially if they first appear in old animals (health issues) or don't affect the animal in captivity (other issues like missing scales). You should always think of, that modern dog breeds don't have to survive in the wilderness. They get optimized food, are taken to a vet if they become sick and have a warm, dry place to live in. The same applies to reptiles. Btw: I don't like scaleless snakes either, but I personally think we should allow other people to like and breed them.

[@hannahthefallenangel788]

Well some scaless snakes are found in the wild so they believe its fine

[@267TPGR]

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[@natasyli]

You’re so pretty 🖤

[@avatarno1defender]

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[@reptiliangarden]

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[@scotgorman940]

all that stuff happens with normal reptiles dogs cats every thing !!! this is foolish .some of those animals look like they were not kept warm enough or to hot ! seen regular boas just go belly up for no reason .albino boas to albino not directly related rarely have problems. kinking happens all the time with snake birth .defects happen in all animals even humans .seems to me like nit picking to me !!! most people don't breed motleys together any more .think that is going on old examples of stuff that is self regulated.rats are prone to tumor's maybe the shouldn't be breed .