Problems for Peugeot 307 WRC Rally cars in World Rally Championship 2004.

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Oscar Sundén

Oscar Sundén

Күн бұрын

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@saile5044
@saile5044 Жыл бұрын
"You can tell Corrado that three is enough" Next rally: *Only 3rd gear works*
@mhh7544
@mhh7544 24 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@mhh7544
@mhh7544 24 күн бұрын
Eventualy Marcus was summoned to Peugeot HQ to explain his comments lol
@phrodendekia
@phrodendekia 3 жыл бұрын
With all that many incredible amount of problems and bad luck he actually pulled off really good results.
@ficmm
@ficmm 3 жыл бұрын
That's just our Flying Finns luck.😝
@andyw440
@andyw440 2 жыл бұрын
Marcus was fast, car was shite
@salvatoreturco3623
@salvatoreturco3623 2 жыл бұрын
That's a testament of how good Gronholm was.
@kena658
@kena658 4 ай бұрын
​@@salvatoreturco36237 wins in Finland speaks (also) for itself
@fredrikalmqvist6700
@fredrikalmqvist6700 Ай бұрын
Frustration creates that.
@robertmacua3690
@robertmacua3690 Жыл бұрын
The unreliability of the 307 helped Loeb win. Remember what Gronholm achieved with the 206. He remains my all time fave driver.
@Snarl616
@Snarl616 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't only the 307. Go check out how often the Focus broke down and left McRae stranded when he was doing good. Sure he crashed a lot, but he was let down many times. Then one day in 2001 protested to Malcolm Wilson saying that either he had a good car o he's out, and miraculously he won 3 consective rallies. I agree with you that Gronholm was better. Loeb only had the way better car, and most other WRC of those years were sub par.
@chibiy2j775
@chibiy2j775 9 ай бұрын
​@@Snarl616McRae protested to Wilson in 2000, and then he won Catalunya and Acropolis.
@installshieldwizard3017
@installshieldwizard3017 9 ай бұрын
@@Snarl616 Props to Citroen. They chose a good strategy to start developing the car in F2 category first, and ended up with a good base for a WRC car, which was reliable. Ford failed to do that.
@Snarl616
@Snarl616 9 ай бұрын
@@installshieldwizard3017 I think Citroen brought much more money in the game than ever before. I saw Loeb crashing sometimes, and I was amazed by how the car carried on regardless. And this furthers my point that Loeb had forever the right car. Not saying that he's talentless, ofc.
@installshieldwizard3017
@installshieldwizard3017 9 ай бұрын
@@Snarl616 Citroen brought just as much money as Peugeot, both being part of PSA. Ford is anything but short of money
@nickknee3515
@nickknee3515 Жыл бұрын
I remember I was 11 years old watching WRC highlights on Speed Channel in the US, and my first memories of rallying and my first sight of a rally car was this bright red Peugeot 307 tearing it up through Mexico.
@jorgebadajoz4485
@jorgebadajoz4485 Жыл бұрын
Happened something similar to me! But I was older than you. In 2006 I was 20 years old when I knew about the rally in Guanajuato, México (I’m from Irapuato, Guanajuato, Mx) and I used to see this amazing car in the big banners by the highways. It was in 2007 when my uncle took me to the mountains to watch them! 🚗 💨
@lio_saiflm104
@lio_saiflm104 Жыл бұрын
DD sports😂
@mushter17
@mushter17 6 ай бұрын
This car epitomised the shambolic quality of the "modern era" Peugeot build quality. You can tell from the moment Marcus excalims "I'm fed up with this car" that he's mentally checked out from then on in. Just a beaten man getting furtherly kicked. Thank God he switched to Ford and we got to see 2 more seasons of peak Gronholm magic!
@rafaelcid8510
@rafaelcid8510 6 ай бұрын
Reliability has nothing to do with build quality
@silverbulletgamer8903
@silverbulletgamer8903 2 жыл бұрын
12:37 "You can tell Corrado now three is enough"
@masonsparkle
@masonsparkle 3 жыл бұрын
I have never forgiven this car in 15 years. A coupe-convertible with a 4-speed gearbox!? And every rally it kept getting stuck in 3rd gear! At least they got rid of it in 2005, but it wasn’t competitive enough against Citroën. And then I watched Michael Park die in Wales *while standing on the same stage!* Then Peugeot decided to put the old 2004 gearbox back in the car for Corsica. And guess what!? Like every gearbox problem in 2004, it got stuck in 3rd gear! That was my last straw for that 307. At least Manfred Stohl gave it some redemption in 2006 by finishing 4th in the driver’s championship.
@MirceaBv
@MirceaBv 3 жыл бұрын
From the 206 which was a world winner to this piece of garbage.... When I see it through the stages my stomach turns upside down.
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 3 жыл бұрын
I don't now what possessed Peugeot to use the CC model of the 307 instead of the hatchback and fit it with a 4 speed gearbox
@jt-hb8lh
@jt-hb8lh 2 жыл бұрын
It was purely for marketing reasons
@AsherSkylark
@AsherSkylark Жыл бұрын
geez, I cant fathom how cursed that car is, especially since a man died while driving it.
@WRCSeb
@WRCSeb Жыл бұрын
My dad was at wales that year a few corners down from the accident
@AmanAli-dc1sy
@AmanAli-dc1sy 3 жыл бұрын
What's weird is that I'm sure that Gronholm said in Monte Carlo that in testing they never had really any issues with the car but it plagued them throughout 2004 especially the gearbox. It was a very quick car when it all came together. What's worse is that I saw on dirt fish an interview with Panizzi and they abandoned development of the 206 early and went the wrong way with the suspension which is why it wasn't to comeptetive to focus on the 307. If they hadn't stopped devlopment or changed the suspension they would have won in 2003 with the 2002 car in his opinion.
@JurekBogdanowicz
@JurekBogdanowicz 2 жыл бұрын
he didnt tell because as peugeots employe he isnt allowed so say a bad word about the car. so maybe they had enough issues but hoped they will find a way to solve it durig the season
@potatogirlcultist19
@potatogirlcultist19 Жыл бұрын
The only car with more problems than my marrige
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 4 ай бұрын
11:45 not only gronholm had 3 gears in Finland But harri rovanpera and Sebastian lindholm both had a huge crashes In that years rally Germany Marcus gronholm went off the road after the start line and it broke the right rear suspension and that ended his rally And some rally’s before that in New Zealand gronholm rolled just before the end of the stage he managed to recover to second place And in the rally Australia gronholm went off twice first he hit the tree whilst leading the rally and then went off again when he reenter the super rally rules and it was a big impact And Cedric Robert who was hired to drive the 307 went off the road in Corsica after hitting the puddle
@gabox01
@gabox01 3 жыл бұрын
What a clusterfuck this car was.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 9 ай бұрын
I remember that when I was 7 years old at the time
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 9 ай бұрын
Same, dude. And even when i was first 4 years old then 5 years old in September of 23rd at the time.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 9 ай бұрын
@@oscarsunden3764yeah indeed
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 3 жыл бұрын
6:34 The Suzuki's coming up behind.
@JerCough5668
@JerCough5668 Жыл бұрын
I thought the sx4 wasn't in wrc till 2008 not 2004
@Spyker8921
@Spyker8921 Жыл бұрын
@@JerCough5668 2007* But in 2004 it was the Ignis S1600 running in J-WRC category
@nickprehna9404
@nickprehna9404 3 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell how many problems did this car have? My god they made a massive fuss with it.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 4 ай бұрын
1:15 Marcus said that he was fed up with his car 4:25 yeah you can see the rocks on the left side of the screen and there’s the hit the left rear suspension is broken on his car and then he continued on until his gearbox once again gave up on him but rovanpera went even better by finishing third losing second place to loeb 15:15 carlsson made a reappearance in the wrc but he got into trouble by the rozzers for the tyre problem on his car
@michaelhorgan9525
@michaelhorgan9525 4 жыл бұрын
Jean-Pierre Nicolas wished the 307 CC WRC could have given Gronholm more WRC titles.
@garinakbar1907
@garinakbar1907 4 ай бұрын
The reason why Loeb were so dominant in 2005 therefore? Solberg couldnt hold him off, and Marcus was in 307, had marcus drove for say Ford earlier than 2006 he might've closely challenge Loeb in 2005
@adfggffffffddffd
@adfggffffffddffd 9 ай бұрын
And to think I was about to buy a peugeot 😏
@moye41
@moye41 Жыл бұрын
Marcus hated that car so much. Should’ve just rolled the 206 back out
@jhersonvera6134
@jhersonvera6134 2 жыл бұрын
16:13 🤣🤣👌🏻
@marchelkindangen5906
@marchelkindangen5906 2 ай бұрын
I know it should not be funny, but this Peugeot 307 making Gronholm like a comedian.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 4 ай бұрын
3:21 this is the rally that he and his teammate were disqualified due to their cars being fitted with standard water pumps which is against the rules
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 3 жыл бұрын
20:31 This one's makes me laugh sometimes.
@F1Kamel_1992
@F1Kamel_1992 3 жыл бұрын
0:52 Aj aj aj, mina nävar 1:08 Men gissa, ingen styrservo. Jag har två långa sträckor kvar och jag har fått nog av den här bilen! 7:18 Måste stanna för det kom upp en sten eller nånting genom Timos stol 12:29 Tre växlar, hela sträckan. Berätta för Corrado att tre räcker Jaha, typiskt Grönholm-humor i rallyvärlden
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 3 жыл бұрын
13:45 Vi har avklarat sträckan, Men vi har tappat 4:an's och 5:an's växel! (Timo Rautiainen) 13:58 Marcus. Din tid var ju katastrof. ...Jag har 1 växel. Vadå 1? 3!
@yucelguven4816
@yucelguven4816 3 жыл бұрын
what a damn car :D
@juhaollila5579
@juhaollila5579 2 жыл бұрын
15:32 Moor piippel, moor piippel!!
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. But Daniel said More People.
@Helstar74
@Helstar74 2 жыл бұрын
16.30 he almost sounds like Borat, "Woo Wee Woo Waa" ! :D
@andriusmev
@andriusmev 3 жыл бұрын
307 road version hdi is very reliable
@ArZer
@ArZer 3 жыл бұрын
307cc is failed car. Problems here problems there problems everywhere, but normal 307 was beast
@Franko384
@Franko384 Жыл бұрын
Why does it sound like a 1960s UFO all the time?
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
If you want a reliable car, anything is better option than a Peugeot.
@dexluther7
@dexluther7 11 ай бұрын
Old Peugeots are rock solid though
@lukasmagnusson6579
@lukasmagnusson6579 Жыл бұрын
The 307 was a very fast car.. but it was unbearably unreliable
@damiann4734
@damiann4734 Жыл бұрын
He seems to be hitting tail a lot. Peugeot 307 engine is reliable and fast but the choice of transmission, clutch and steering components are completely shite. Why a convertible???!???!?! A hatch would have been a lot more easier to control
@xeniakennedy
@xeniakennedy 2 жыл бұрын
where is the vid about Marcus' boots and him saying they are uncomfortable or what was the issue...?
@yucelguven4816
@yucelguven4816 2 жыл бұрын
4:12 xDDDD
@petrironkko8395
@petrironkko8395 2 жыл бұрын
Huikea kuski , näkee että anto kaikkensa
@xeniakennedy
@xeniakennedy 2 жыл бұрын
does marlboro still sponsor peugeot? neither product are any good but LOVE Marcus G and Timo R
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 2 жыл бұрын
No, cause Marlboro's not sponsor Peugeot anymore. And Marlboro sponsor Peugeot from 2003 to 2005, even World Rally Championship has banned all of cigarette & cigar signs forever.
@xeniakennedy
@xeniakennedy 2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarsunden3764 thank you
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 2 жыл бұрын
@@xeniakennedy Lol, No problemo.
@leandroarielpavon
@leandroarielpavon Жыл бұрын
This car was cursed
@user-ph5xl3wv8z
@user-ph5xl3wv8z 3 жыл бұрын
Good compilation man, worst WRC car for sure
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man. I with ya BUT I think the Peugeot 307 is a nice WRC Rally Car and I understand, the car's got so many bad lucks and technical problems. Too bad.
@adriankasprzyk5364
@adriankasprzyk5364 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you are Right.....you have to admit that the 307 CC wrc whale looks very good and sound great like a lion from the Peugeot family
@user-ph5xl3wv8z
@user-ph5xl3wv8z 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriankasprzyk5364 i dont know why but I like it more without the livery. Even tho Marlboro livery is legendary, I saw a test video with compeletely red car with white rims, that one looked sick! Very good sound yes, and lots of torque. Still, 206 did so much better that it's just sad
@jamesbrown145
@jamesbrown145 3 жыл бұрын
The car was actually very fast. Just horrendously unreliable. The next year it was quite good but the good drivers had already left
@Vamppas
@Vamppas 3 жыл бұрын
No, that goes to Suzuki sx4 wrc.
@ArZer
@ArZer 3 жыл бұрын
Should have gone with normal 307 not with this...
@RandomDuude
@RandomDuude 3 жыл бұрын
The civilian 307 is a pretty good car but the WRC one, holy shit it's garbage 😂
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the road going one is riddled with faults too. It’s not until 208 and 308 that Peugeot upped their manufacturing game.
@67Colint
@67Colint Жыл бұрын
They were absolutely crap!
@aaryeshg.6526
@aaryeshg.6526 Жыл бұрын
I found the Renault Megane CC to be a bit better, ofcourse even that was meh. You're better off with a CLK or Audi A4 cabrio. Or a Toyota Camry Solara V6 lmaooo
@YaoteChannelWithBPart2
@YaoteChannelWithBPart2 3 жыл бұрын
0:52 I heard this weak voice for the first time
@olli5976
@olli5976 3 жыл бұрын
Marcus complained about how the power steering didn’t work, and that heavy steering wheel hit his hands.
@YaoteChannelWithBPart2
@YaoteChannelWithBPart2 3 жыл бұрын
@@olli5976 I think so to He usually looks Strong That's why he was so tired of making such a fuss
@Snarfie
@Snarfie 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this, back then I was like 12 and still learning to listen in English so I'd just base myself off the footage, I kept thinking either the car was overheating or the steering wheel was too hot and he burned his hands off it but now that I remember, I don't know why it didn't go through my head that he's wearing flame-resistant gloves. Oh boy, I was a big fan of Marcus and Peugeot and was surprised why they decided to race with a car that was way longer than the mighty 206
@YaoteChannelWithBPart2
@YaoteChannelWithBPart2 3 жыл бұрын
@@Snarfie 307 Was a strong machine but often admire the fact that I was caught
@Spyker8921
@Spyker8921 Жыл бұрын
@@Snarfie Marketing and need for room to put tech inside
@WRCSeb
@WRCSeb Жыл бұрын
That 307 had nothing other than problems
@JerCough5668
@JerCough5668 Жыл бұрын
They did that in the btcc and that got even worse results than this
@麦倉陽介
@麦倉陽介 2 жыл бұрын
マーカスティモコメディ
@hanswind724
@hanswind724 2 жыл бұрын
Every french car ever made, i'll say.
@gathel8574
@gathel8574 Жыл бұрын
Renault and Citroen was fine. Only Peugeot. Except 905 that was better
@charlienash1050
@charlienash1050 Жыл бұрын
Only those who know nothing of French cars and their racing pedagory would apply it to "every" French car
@JerCough5668
@JerCough5668 Жыл бұрын
The 206 won wrc twice though
@Spyker8921
@Spyker8921 Жыл бұрын
Remind me which car nationality won all the drivers' titles from 2004 to 2012
@Spyker8921
@Spyker8921 Жыл бұрын
All that sweet karma going to Provera for treating Delecour so badly
@TheUntitled100
@TheUntitled100 Жыл бұрын
A car so temperamental and unreliable that even the doors can stop working.
@Bogdankhromov
@Bogdankhromov Жыл бұрын
manual Gearbox is better, power steering simpler...
@j-r3207
@j-r3207 2 жыл бұрын
Why use the car if it fell apart on him so much 🤣 I’m buying the 307cc
@Hellhammer1980
@Hellhammer1980 12 күн бұрын
I dont see the problem, its a Peugeot, what do you want...
@67Colint
@67Colint Жыл бұрын
Them 307's were absolutely rubbish!
@zurnaka33
@zurnaka33 3 жыл бұрын
Manfred Stohl dislikes this video
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@zurnaka33
@zurnaka33 3 жыл бұрын
@@oscarsunden3764 just kidding. he says it's the best car he has ever driven
@oscarsunden3764
@oscarsunden3764 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Okay then.😏😁😏
@dimitrisqwerty
@dimitrisqwerty 3 жыл бұрын
@@zurnaka33 how did that man get 4th in 2006 it still baffles me
@superkazuya3328
@superkazuya3328 11 ай бұрын
Reliability problems aside, it's possibly the worst looking rally car ever made. It looks like it came out of a Barbie playset.
@d-d-i
@d-d-i 10 ай бұрын
Citroën BX 4TC has entered the chat, that was also a total moose. And the '04-'05 season Lancer WRC with that weird rear spoiler, god it looked awful.
@mallarally145
@mallarally145 2 жыл бұрын
The worse rally car ever manufactured 307!! When drivers spoke the truth. Miss them characters
@JerCough5668
@JerCough5668 Жыл бұрын
The 00-03 accent was worse
@Spyker8921
@Spyker8921 Жыл бұрын
@@JerCough5668 What about the Cordoba ?
@JerCough5668
@JerCough5668 Жыл бұрын
@Spyker8921 it wasn't great but there are worst things but that's another example of something worse than the 307
@JerCough5668
@JerCough5668 Жыл бұрын
@@Spyker8921 the octavia is worse
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