Prof. Jason Stanley in Wake of Kavanaugh’s Confirmation: Fascism Cannot Operate Without Patriarchy

[@misterdemocracy3335]

This guy is a machine. I’ve recently discovered him and it’s actually incredible just binging his talks.

[@rickbishop5987]

Calling them, the present democratic party as center is misleading. It is right of Eisenhower's Republican party. Both parties represent the corporate/elites with different social rhetorical focus.

[@dave161256]

I think that that would have been true a few years ago but there do seem to be some Democratic politicians that are promoting social democratic principles such as Ocasio-Cortez.

[@niccolea2086]

Rick Bishop and to think the democrats don’t know what trump is up to. Right

[@contactkeithstack]

Name a policy center democrats are further to the right on than 50s Republicans?

[@Stevros999]

The Two Party Duopoly wins everytime.

[@christopherdunne4048]

@@contactkeithstack One example is the minimum wage. For some others, here's a link. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/oct/28/facebook-posts/viral-meme-says-1956-republican-platform-was-prett/

[@flavio4923]

I'm brazilian and totally agree with you. The situation is really concerning. You are lucky the fascist supporters haven't found out your channel yet. At the sight of criticism they'll mass downvote and insult everyone in the comments.

[@lucianonunesdossantosjunio5324]

Flávio sou brasileiro também, e as coisas só vem piorando em nosso país dos últimos tempos pra ca

[@donnaclement3228]

Stanley is right. It starts with rhetoric.

[@ellenrosegaynor8063]

We need Democracy Now to highlight the stark difference between the political interpretation of "liberal" in America compared to "liberalism" in European nations. Please??

[@RyanJohnson]

I second that!

[@user-rb7ns9yj5y]

Chris Hedges does all the time

[@bryanjhill]

Just finished his book, excellent and spot on

[@bryanjhill]

@Bryzz Lull Not really, you should try reading, you might like it. #longshot

[@bryanjhill]

@Colin Kniles Like the insurrection? 🤡

[@irockluculent961]

This is a very important interview, and the subsequent year and 4 months only vindicate Prof. Stanley's warnings. One key point he makes about fighting back is that trade unions are a major protection against fascism.

[@lindsayhobbs6536]

I read this book; excellent and very informative work, Dr. Stanley. I'm struggling with my parent's rabid support of Donald Trump. Their "Christian" church is very cult-like I'm my mind, and they are very much about telling their congregation who they should vote for. My father is a retired scientist, and also studied history at the graduate level. I'm trying to get him to read this book, to realize the cognitive dissonance he's fallen into. It's very difficult to watch my parents fall prey to this sort of horror.

[@CaptusVitumMirum]

I think Prof. Stanley updating my college transcripts with an "A" and 3 credit hours is modest and fair.

[@backpackmatt]

Incredibly insightful!

[@apelger8360]

The ONE mistake HRC made?!? Where do I begin?! Bernie understood and empathized with the working class. He demonstrated that DT was trying to pit one group against another. But he showed the way to unite them against the 1% , the corporations, etc. He never would have stooped to denigrating a group of (desperate) people, as HRC did with her "deplorables" comment, among others.

[@shirleykurtz]

Bernie sold out and will never have respect again.

[@boowonder888]

'Shirley, your purist attitude is what made Trump your President, And now he is stuffing his own particular brand of fascism down your throat. Obama warned you what would happen, Bernie wared you what would happen, Hillary warned you what would happen. Now you got Kavanaugh for the next 30 years. You did it to yourself, Handmaiden.

[@Budzilla24]

Thank you for the callout OP! I really dislike this guy, because he takes the centrist democrat party line, that this Trumpism/Fascism is all about racism and sexism. Of course it's about those things, but it's mainly fueled by the oligarchs stifling democracy, resulting in a disillusionment with democracy itself. What is the 'democracy' that this guy wants us to return to? One where the Clintons ship millions of black men into prisons, and millions of jobs overseas, and gut regulations on finance, when they were elected precisely to NOT do those things? The Fascists are ill-informed, because they think that this is what democracy looks like, and they don't want it; instead of realizing that democracy needs to be reinvigorated and wrested from the 0.1%

[@contactkeithstack]

@@Budzilla24 all those things you are referring to as "Clinton" - 1) your conflating Hillary with Bill. 2) you aren't acknowledging that those policies are pushed when Bill Clinton was working with a Republican Congress. The Republicans have controlled congressional and state politics for 30 years. They controlled the house for a majority of Obama's presidency and they controlled majority of state govts throughout. The 2 years centrists controlled federal govt you got the ACA, the stimulus, and Wall St regulation. That doesn't fit your narrative on centrists. You may think centrists are too moderate but they are on your side, they are moving in your direction. I think many centrists are pragmatic progressives. You may think they aren't adequately ambitious or idealistic, but again, they are on your team.

[@boowonder888]

@@contactkeithstack The purists will never admit that they had a hand in Trump. And that your argument is right. Noone would have talked about Medicare for all if there hadn't been an ACA.

[@JemLeavitt]

Crucially important.

[@timmanion2197]

While I agree with the many comments pointing out that it might be amiss to speak of HRC’s “one mistake” given her many, the nature of this “one” is the most telling with regard to our one-party national politics. Her mistake was essentially to reveal the utter truth about her (and the DNC ‘s) attitude toward the folks most often represented by the Democratic Party of the New Deal. To the New Democrats, such folks are, indeed, deplorable, as they are to ALL the smartest guys - and gals - in the room. They are uneducated, poor (or soon to be), and their kids are, frankly, best indoctrinated with ‘Murica! and served up as cannon fodder. What they are not is slick, quick, schooled in all the right Ivy League economic and political shibboleths, handy with a spreadsheet and a pc, nicely SUV’d, and most important of all, DONORS! So who needs ‘em? Watch out, Hillary, and Bill, and Barak, and Nancy and Chuck, and Don, and Paul and Mitch and....... well, you know who you are. With signs made with love in the basement, or down at Kinkos, in hand , we’re comin’ for ya. UP THE UNION!!!!

[@s4njuro462]

"The one mistake Hillary made on the campaign trail" .... really bro, which election were you watching.. I can think of a dozen off of the top of my head....

[@genghisdon1]

he is a fucking moron

[@babycakes2077]

REAL work unites us! ✊🏾

[@johnmiranda2307]

Too late, Amy. You missed the coup in 2016. “Germany was the dress rehearsal for the United States.” Sid Haddad, NYC. 1970

[@starcrib]

..really. well now. Your an ongoing Opera tragedy. Get up and do something. fuck sake.

[@leealexander3507]

Signs not made in basements with loving hands = the left usually knows how to spell.

[@LarryAllenTonar]

If this is Part 2, where is Part 1 available? On KZbin? the DN website?

[@genghisdon1]

Hey DN! bring Noam Chomsky back on so he can refresh your memory on the function of the intellectual class & that it's given the 99% every reason to be "anti-intellectual". Professor Stanley is mostly correct on the history (which I knew well already), but as one of those rotten defenders of the status quo & justifier of the elites position, he is oh so conveniently missing how it's his ilk's fault for paving the road to fascism & throwing blame places it doesn't belong as cover. Why the hell are you playing along when you damned well know better?

[@herahagstoz6934]

Has anyone been able to isolate and understand the strange background chatter that breaks through starting at 11:38 or so and sporadically thereafter? It sounds suspicious.

[@ritamariekelley4077]

We're as propagandized as much as the USSR ever was...

[@mastermooky]

12:59, how ironic, trump sounds like he is describing himself

[@diogenes999]

The link to part 1?!

[@griveros25]

1:18 2:18 4:51 8:00 8:27 9:35 10:38 12:35 18:02 28:25 30:21

[@nolove-qb3fu]

How we fall so quick...we meaning the US

[@achbanilacran2061]

Jesus....2018 and we are talking about America going fascist.... this species is just doomed.

[@willardchi2571]

Where's part 1?

[@patrickmccormack4318]

Armistice of 11 November 1918: WWI opened the opportunity for the German fascist state. Take special care with comparing and contrasting. Cause and effect is unique to nearly every historic event.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

What happened to American Pragmatism?

[@Stevros999]

Reminds of WWF everytime I see him at the podium

[@dvg87]

I love Stanley’s assessment but it’s quite analytical and not keen about the historical interpretation that each generation undergoes within its relation to the understanding of autocratic systems and fascism. Then the question is not only what the concept of fascism entails but how it remains in its principles active even within functioning democratic societies as for these elements themselves to be able to engender a crisis that leads to the development of such autocratic systems.

[@brent5519]

Thank goodness they are just a loud minority!

[@kh-hp5gi]

gotta guy this book

[@slytown]

I disagree public education is a facilitator of solidarity. James Loewen did his famous study of textbooks that showed how conservative students in secondary and post-secondary school can be. Education merely has the potential to present historical lessons that embolden progress. Also, accurate or true history is a misnomer. Their is only falsifiable evidence that supports a historical assumption. History is not objective, as the word True implies; its intellectually honest at its best.

[@paulmatters2641]

Agree with this analysis.However Duterte is not an autocrat. He does not exercise unrestructed power. Nor is he homophobic. He supports trans and gay rights. He suports birth control against the Catholic Church. He rsisted the confrontation with China pressure from the US in the South China Sea. His government is fighting ful blown Islamic extremist insurgency in the south of the country. The analysis of Duterte amongst the US left is abysmal. The authoritaian and corrupt force in the Philippines is the Catholic Church.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

What about Canada and Australia? Really?

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

@Preet Dhami They are Socialist countries. Watch it again.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

Common experiences shared through language, discourse.

[@kh-hp5gi]

Get,....

[@LethalBubbles]

yes it can. some fascist mythsjhave fatherland, others have motherland. it doesn't make a big difference.

[@affinity3281]

9:29 what a load of crap. There is no question America is in better shape now than it has been in many years. Trump made that possible.

[@miraculixxs]

Wait. You may have that the wrong way around.

[@JemLeavitt]

This.

[@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344]

All good, but I still don’t understand what is wrong about a strong daddy? Patriarchy is not just oppression. It could never exist if it didn’t have also a positive purpose. As much as I would desire it, the Trump movement won’t be ideologically beaten by progressive intellectuals. They tried already too hard fighting windmills, mainly: use of language and even gestures (jazz hands, lol) were seen as the central problem, not really what common folks actually worry about. Now at least 70 percent Americans reject political correctness, and the more we try culture engineering by calling for more speech codes and complicated rules for human expression and interaction between the sexes, the more the word political correctness becomes a joke. The right wing can often turn all the fine speech and all the language mangling into ropes because a big part of it is indeed an assault on common sense. And while the crowd is cheering them on - in social media - the extremists wrap their rocks in all the learned papers to through them back at us. M. Moore has a more promising approach - look for working class people to organise, and don’t worry so much about their wokeness with regards to gender and identity politics. Strong daddies who never beat their wives, and who do protect their kids and family - and that’s most men - believe it or not, must be welcome again.

[@waywardgeologist2520]

Kavanaugh is not a fascist but an originalist. Title is a bit misleading.

[@babycakes2077]

Oh, and “nation” means to neuter in old French n Latin.

[@babycakes2077]

See john cusak in max

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Good stuff!! As we head into the 2022 primaries keep an eye on the language this Trump sycophants use.

[@adamlamparello8701]

The bias of this "professor" is so obvious that it undermines the credibility of his arguments.

[@thomasw.5344]

No, it doesn't. He's not a judge or a news reporter, he's a philosophy professor (no quotation marks). It's basically his job to be biased. Just because you have a different opinion, doesn't mean his facts are wrong. There is for example no doubt that Trump and other right wing figures uses fascist rhetoric and propaganda techniques. If you are interested in these mechanisms, it tells you a lot about how and why they work.

[@adamlamparello8701]

@@thomasw.5344 he is intellectually dishonest and thus not reliable. I really don't respect individuals whose bias outweighs their ability to be honest and balanced.

[@timberrr1126]

Patriarchy is the basis of the family. Women make friends in a Patriarchy-but no affairs. Open Marriage is rejected.

[@dcurmudgeon6564]

So Orangeman bad?

[@shalicgraw5280]

Bad hombre. Sad!

[@manuelpersinger9578]

Madmen and the power Elites : by Liza Featherstone!

[@timberrr1126]

Men understand being accused falsely of rape

[@izzyso3820]

Comparing Hitler to Trump is laughable.

[@staatsfeindlich9939]

It's no laughing matter

[@izzyso3820]

@@staatsfeindlich9939 It very much is. Trump is not using the military to kill his opositors. Get a grip clowns.