Professional Chinese Gold Farmer tells all - Exclusive Interview with Jared Psigoda

[@user-tb3ih9lt4f]

Since its been over 10 years now I would love to see an updated version of this to see what all has changed. I know you haven't made any videos like this for quite sometime now but seeing it on your channel where a lot of these types of interviews originated from would be extremally cool

[@4x_AE]

Jared is doing cryptocurrency and internet security stuff now. He's not in the RMT anymore.

[@TheOnlyWaterPoloGod]

I don't know about you guys but i really enjoyed this interview. The guy is very articulate

[@Galexlol]

the guy is a huge pathetic p##sy who will be forgotten to time and only remembered slightly by you people for being a scammer sick life you had

[@sammokthegrey4992]

God, this kid is shady. He's like the mmo version of a mob boss.

[@frantisekzverina473]

Samuel Morrison mmomob

[@dragansprem6265]

mmomobboss

[@infamousjax]

Gold godfather

[@buckovens6706]

chinese connection

[@AussieNord]

It's the eyebrows

[@roflmows]

i'm a proud owner of a level 90 kangaroo in World of Wombats.

[@meselthan]

Lmfao!

[@ZiggyDGaming]

He does now, with a video game firm I believe but back then he was essentially self-employed as a broker. I see that as smart.

[@robsdeviceunknown]

I know this video is quite old. I would love to see a new interview with this guy. So much has changed. I found this interview fascinating.

[@424-i7r]

"we are not gold farmers. That is a common misconception" Title "Professional Chinese Gold Farmer tells all"

[@danfontaine8179]

424 lmfao

[@RapidMinimumBeaver]

As a former employee of blizzard, I can say that the farming and selling of gold isn't the problem that we had with RMT companies. The problem is that a lot of those 'farmers' have become almost entirely predatory, and they not longer farm gold, as much as compromise legit player's accounts and steal the gold they sell. In making the change, the RMT market has caused a huge influx in the amount of work we have to do to keep players online, which costs us money directly.

[@Sigrafix]

I don't play any of these games nor do I have any idea how they work but I find these videos fascinating... There's something compelling about listening to how other people scheme (good or bad) to profit from certain circumstances legitimate or otherwise, it's almost like watching the creative process for an artist except it's monetary in nature and not so much self expression. It spurs a sort of entrepreneurial desire and perhaps even spark a few ideas which may be totally unrelated to the subject matter but the same principals can be applied and you hear the pitfalls of doing things the wrong way and the right way as neither is guaranteed to protect you, there's risk in any sort of business venture and just listening to the amounts of risk successful people take is some what inspiring if not terrifying. Lol.

[@Anudorini-Talah]

You are confused. The most entertaining thing is watching other people doing their hobby.

[@michaelfaber9198]

"Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king." - Tywin Lannister

[@Ecliptor.]

"I am also a man from a fictional world"

[@tnuc748]

The logic still applies fictional or not. The fact he is a self-proclaimed king means he is not a king at all...

[@RichardGAG]

The hate and jealously in this comment section is epic, dude realized how to make money without breaking any rules himself. Good for him. Then remember, its players that decide to buy gold not the sellers!

[@ledzeppelin4892000]

If there's demand, there's a market.

[@RUdigitized]

The shadiness of that kid is astonishing.

[@NickqtGaming]

Well he has to protect himself, he's involved in something that is greatly frowned upon and against most MMO's TOS'

[@googleplusrapedme9227]

A cancer to the community

[@AussieNord]

it's the eyebrows

[@TheBucketSkill]

@@googleplusrapedme9227 Literally stacking real currency. Giving no fucks.

[@MrNoSleepOSRS]

Wonder if he sells runescape gold

[@landonprice7316]

MrNoSleep OSRS there is no doubt in that

[@TeamMuchers]

the fact that i see you commenting on this is funny.

[@hdrotciv]

Doesnt everybody do that?

[@Matbart]

Lmao go back to making your 24 hour rune dragon video.

[@Matbart]

MrNoSleep OSRS Shoot! I'm a week late haha

[@kewlnes987]

I still don't understand how Markee had 2022 level video quality in 2010 lol

[@duluxdoggy]

this is why back in the day when i played wow i bought the authenticator, a small amount of mojney for something so simple yet so secure

[@starczarar]

Absolutely fascinating. Thank you both for this interview!

[@hjula87]

Wow, he already talks like a lobbyist...

[@Kasejeb]

+Hjula flandman His company is worth over $50 million, lol..?

[@terro740]

+killall217 wow makes more then that in 1 month off subs so it wudnt suprise me with the way he monitized off of chinesse labor

[@hjula87]

killall217 What does money have to do with lobbyist? lol...

[@Kasejeb]

Hjula flandman When did I say or infer money having anything to do with logic?

[@gtamonkey3061]

Alex Arocho ok and....

[@allthesevids]

Regardless of how you feel about secondary markets this is a really cool interview. The gold hustler and the interviewer are both on point and have good questions and answers. Only 12 min in but gonna keep watching.

[@LFTDLorax02]

Now that WoW tokens are out...I'd love to see another interview...

[@dedalliance1]

LFTDLorax02 A Creative way to sell Gold. He probably got Hired at Blizzard to ban bots lol.

[@kickfly222]

+dedalliance1 Nope he founded a company worth 50 million dollars.

[@EricCris10sen]

+LFTDLorax02 Lol tokens are shit. Gold sellers still have a TON of business.

[@encorv]

for 1 token you get almost 300k. For that price on goldsites you get not even 200k. So yeah they have no customers.

[@encorv]

Lordeverfall100 proof? A token is 300k for 20eur. For 20eur you get about 200k from several goldsites.

[@MutantSoupp]

The professional Chinese gold farmer is not even Chinese

[@vilonasculpture3698]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[@B0Sajwah]

the middleman. usually the one that eats the biggest part of the cake.

[@ggEmolicious]

Slaves typically aren’t owned by their own race, right? >.

[@Anudorini-Talah]

@@ggEmolicious good one

[@HuskyAim]

@@ggEmolicious Except they are in a lot of places xD

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

This guy's smile is so sly his portrait must be in the dictionary for that word.

[@kodamaqq6143]

this guy is great. that's obviously the best thing you can ever do.

[@Vapendragaren93]

I got hacked back in TBC... And they used my account to farm gold.. So when i got the account back, I was 10 times richer with A LOT of mats

[@LS-wy4bk]

Worth xD

[@Electr1cWaffles]

Same happened to me in Wotlk

[@IceGeck0]

so you cheated...

[@sheepinwolvesclothing1135]

They let you keep it?

[@TheGilmer]

This kid is co-founder and CEO of R2Games now, that is fucking cool man lol So glad you got this early interview of him!

[@airchandler4820]

I wonder if he's apart of what's happening on the nostalrius/Elysium servers currently.

[@ryanmontaperto2378]

He owns R2Games now. They release free to play games that specialize in micro transactions. Lol

[@Ravidist]

My first instinct was to dislike, but ended up liking. Dude is smart

[@DrCokePepsiPwnage]

this kid's a damn genius, ive got respect for him

[@GlennTheSadMarinersFan]

Jared Psigoda is the co-founder and CEO of Reality Squared Games, or R2Games, a Web and mobile game publisher specializing in free-to-play games. The company currently has more than 200 employees, and offices in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Guangzhou whose business includes bringing Chinese games to Western players. from forbes.. I think he survived the wow tokens.

[@MeTaLLiCa997]

+Glenn Hackworth Yeah, nothing but ignorant foreign countries.

[@MeTaLLiCa997]

Yeah, I can feel the Jihad within.*****

[@CV-ly6ct]

MeTaLLiCa997 those are Chinese cities

[@metropolismonke]

So he's responsible for Kronos .. I'll find him.

[@rodikbg]

+Rui Pinha hahaahahah

[@KingRastaj]

Give him a big pat on the back for me :)

[@KingRastaj]

Whoever created Kronos is a hero.

[@ragnorian257]

lmaoooo

[@SegaSat]

This guy is smart af. Gj in recognizing open market areas.

[@themaintenancespot3254]

This kid is smart, I'll give him that. And I respect that. Obtaining a Masters by 22 is not an easy thing to do. However, from a gamer's point of view...even though you are on a Broker Level, you still have a hand in making the game less enjoyable for others. Every day I log into one f my games, I have to ignore the spam, and I choose to do the work for my gold, gil or otherwise, myself, because its HONEST. Its not your knowledge that I despise kid, it's what you are choosing to do with it...

[@lekad.9021]

Levi Klein

[@Zephury]

Even better than required password resets is secondary passwords. No memory issues. Mabinogi implements this and I've never had issues remembering/never cared about the user experience. Two passwords required to login. For mabinogi, the second password utilizes an on screen keyboard, also circumventing keyloggers if those are even still a thing, lol.

[@Generic12312]

This kid should get into a more stable market, he's got a brilliant mind and although there are many hating on him, thats just jealousy, give him some credit its nice to see people rising from poverty and making jobs for themselves and others. He could adapt this knowledge to any sector because he has the basics of business down and thats all one needs. Well done buddy!

[@AKhellbindeR]

I remember my buddy stopped playing WoW sometime during WotlK, and decided to get into gold farming. He bought Glider or some other bot, and just had his main character fly around in Icecrown mining, 24/7. He would sell the ores on the auction house, and then sell the gold to these websites. He actually made enough each month to pay his rent. Not bad for spending 15-20 min a day on the auction house.

[@KramNoobsauce]

I want to see an interview with Jared now that the WoW token is a thing.

[@malcolmreynolds4099]

interview with him from this year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaKQoKefqdp9qZo

[@Sartaglo]

You completely missed the point. The point was that even with the video settings at 360p, it looks amazing, which can't be said for many videos. His post has nothing to do with computing power or any other setting.

[@goaliedude32]

He's admitting to enabling the exploitation of people living in poverty and he's profiting from it.

[@Price245]

Welcome to capitalism.

[@misterJ420]

Good for him

[@Galexlol]

@@misterJ420 too bad for your mom who had to birth such a pathetic unethical shitstain such as yourself

[@SimilakChild]

I met a malaysian woman named Sue and she was pro at RMT, she made sure none of her customers get banned because she had access to the GM's accounts too. really incredible work.

[@RightHandedMan25]

ok nerdo

[@mackinboss5429]

WoW, lol. People are fuckin' haters. He found a service to provide, I think you all are just mad because he's banking on this.

[@Cleavatr0n]

Can't believe this video is seven years old... holy shit.

[@Craig-ib7gk]

If I was holding a glass of water and this guy was on fire, I'd drink the water and just watch him burn.

[@anthony12156]

i hope everyone stayed for the whole video and payed attention to the bit about passwords at the end

[@DecayedPony]

Don't waste your anger on this kid playing with game economies and making some bank, hate on the higher ups that are fucking up real economies and making millions if not billions.

[@ElvenMans]

+Lawlhero Can't do shit about them either sadly, no good money without shady businesses it seems, which is sad.

[@TheLazyMuffin]

+Lawlhero why would you hate on somebody for making millions? they create jobs? What would a country be without millionaires? Are you jealous of them because they work hard or something?

[@DecayedPony]

***** I'm not talking about business creators, I'm talking about people who make money based off of fraud, warfare, or abusing tax laws.

[@seektruth2388]

If not trillions.

[@pureskillz15]

Not responsible for any of the bad stuff that happens is what every criminal says when they get caught.

[@ZiggyDGaming]

Smart enough to not have a job...

[@NapoleonDeBombarde]

KZbin should add a timer to the comments. To see who actually watches the full 40 minutes!

[@TeddieYoutube]

I have an even better solution... GET A FREE FUCKING AUTHENTICATOR :D I was hacked once... never again have I been hacked.

[@TeddieYoutube]

I wouldn't say dumb.. just not careful.

[@Swisheals]

So I guess you dont use curse client because its certificate doesn't match up aka untrusted or are you one of them so called dumb people

[@ZeranZeran]

Great video, and what a smart guy. Thanks for the interview guys.

[@afriend2976]

he found a good way to make money, good for him. it's funny how all you nerds think he is the anti christ.

[@VenuSux]

Haha what's up dude, nice vids :p

[@fbcvxbnfgdgh]

***** Not the same person.

[@ElvenMans]

+A Friend You must be too young, if you don't understand whats the problem with gold farming and selling.

[@330Lawson]

im sure he does understand as hes a famous youtuber lol

[@seektruth2388]

that was a shitty statement, fdend.

[@yuinoji3353]

Gold selling, gold trading, is the future for us. Hate it or love it, we can't stop it.

[@Sourman1545]

Hope this guy goes out of business asap cant stand gold farmers. They are a cancer to the game, virtual currency should stay 100% virtual 100% of the time.

[@saitouhajime3]

By the way, as of Cata, it is illegal to buy gold from any source. I'm sorry, but its true. Doing so undermines the players that work for their gold. Dispute if you like, but its true.

[@Rangstaa]

he basicly said the same thing over and over making it sound smart and big which is simple.

[@zero98ify]

Well then you're a pretty shitty listener. He did repeat himself several times, but that's because the questions were fairly repetitive. And anyways, I dare you to try pull off the same thing he did. Try controlling like 30% of all the gold in a wow server.

[@loiloiloi6]

I thought it was pretty annoying when he kept going "It's basic economics" to make himself seem like a CFO lol

[@audreynimise]

Actually in France you can get a doctorate after 5 years of studies and if you know how to organize your schedule you can also get 2 or 3 at once but that requires a huge amount of work.

[@Kalvjaevel]

This guy is in the hacking industry as well, no doubt.

[@ilovegold69]

+Kalvjaevel no he probably isn't

[@fightomo]

+Kalvjaevel hes a broker so no

[@yafhaioaeiohtoia4445]

+fightomo Is it impossible to be a broker by day and a hacker by night? I would assume not.

[@holyhelga]

+Kalvjaevel i agree with you.

[@hughman1456]

+Kalvjaevel said he flunked CSCI and Calc so no

[@dominic2014]

In response to your point on the revenue generated by the actual farmers subscriptions; the influx of gold also generates a game economy that can bring high prices in the auction house, and this keeps the game alluring (at least, for me,) resulting in more renewed subs.

[@Tiigerr]

I understand the hate towards this guy for what he's involved in, but I also find it really funny that because of that hate, most of the commentators on this video are blind and can't analyze the video objectively. The guy may be doing something unethical but he actually seems quite smart and knows what he's talking about. You should probably also Google his name, it might give you a little insight about him: www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=jared%20psigoda

[@erwins4362]

+Tiiger Oh okay because he ''seems quite smart and knows what he's talking about'' it's okay for him to be a parasite...? Dumbass.

[@Tiigerr]

+erwin s That's not what I said. If you bothered to try and understand what I was saying, I was commenting on all the people calling him stupid for what he was doing. Like I said you can absolutely argue the ethics of what he's doing and I wholeheartedly agree that it's wrong. But he's not stupid, he's actually pretty smart and he's pretty successful at what he does. When you separate what you personally think about a person with what they've accomplished and how they accomplished it, it's easy to see my point. This is completely independent from whether something is right or wrong. But instead you'd rather ignorantly insult me and completely miss my point.

[@ElvenMans]

+Tiiger I don't care how smart you think he is, he is doing illegal stuff.

[@Tiigerr]

ElvenMr And I never said otherwise.

[@Krisilke]

P.S. I saw you updated your blog because you read these comments!

[@GMHitsu]

And so we now have someone to blame for all the spam in your mmo about gold selling.

[@PetersonIItLovepeople]

I checked this video recording because I eventually got truly concerned about the economy and had no clue how to cope. Hard cash does not always mean anything any longer. Thus I decided to do some investigation and found Goldiverse. I am so fortuitous, I can easily change my personal savings from cash to various currencies, to any precious metal when ever I like. The federal government can go and take a jump for all I care. Just Yahoo it Goldiverse.

[@Zolizzo]

I love how he talks as if he's a victim when he abuses and exploits other people and companies' honest work for a living.

[@politikz8128]

Watching this in 2021 after Burning crusade classic has been announced and it’s still relevant as ever

[@MrBonglove]

wow this kid is mad smart.

[@MrPeterref]

Why do you think so?

[@OriginalPai]

Peter Refsgaard I think he believes that attaining a masters degree in a foreign language at the age of 22 is impressive. I think the cut off for being impressed about a masters degree in a foreign language would be about 12-13 years old.

[@tehnubster69]

OriginalPai You seem to be very jealous of this Jared dude for some reason seeing how you keep on randomly hating on him. Are you insecure?

[@OriginalPai]

tehnubster69 Keep hating on him? I elaborated on one comment and made one general observation on his arrogance. Thanks for playing though.

[@nunyab8972]

OriginalPai so jealous

[@astraygod4811]

Very interesting to hear their point of view on gold selling and F2P games.

[@disabledvet420]

overall a pretty good video though. lot of good info.

[@adrianpatricio5369]

I love how he is proud to break the first rule of every game "no real world trades"

[@andrechen7372]

Don't hate the playa

[@geolan31]

The guys knows his shit, enjoyed the insight into this whole business.

[@Jaymzi]

"Really cheap like 10k gold is $19.99" Man 2010 sucked, 10k gold is like $2 now ahahaha

[@PwnUrBadCock]

Its easier to farm now

[@kevinsephiroth]

Jaymz Keane what you could buy with 10k gold in 2010 is worth about 100k gold nowadays... Everything's value got inflated hardcore

[@Kennypauls]

Good tip on passwords. Other than that...I feel like I violated all my EULAs for simply watching this video.

[@natasharossouw1075]

Wolf of wowstreet! Lol!

[@HelloVoltage]

I recommend you to watch the whole thing, as he addresses this himself.

[@Ockiegames]

24 and still cant grow a mustache XD

[@Lihborg]

***** you know what you call a person with no mustache/beard? a woman :)

[@onenineninelily]

if your dad doesn't have a beard then you have to mums

[@devon752]

When the best thing you have over a kid that's earned millions is his lack of mustache then you know you're jealous.

[@StanwoodSpartans]

devon752 As comedian Bill burr said, if anybody attacks your character or looks, you've won the debate.

[@Suiceyed]

i smell jealously

[@correafx]

Thank you for the tip

[@StickEmpiresStrats]

Wow tokens

[@SimilakChild]

never heard of this dude, but i know a malaysian girl named maggie that runs a whole large linked network of farming websites, she also responsible for taking out the competition which she is very good at doing

[@elesh_norn]

Dem pubic mustache.

[@saitouhajime3]

Yes, it is against the terms to buy gold. In fact, someone could use this as evidence against the company he works for.

[@syiunshi]

He sells gode

[@hermitgamer]

super interesting interview, thanks mate!

[@andresvaldevit3692]

One comment...ehem...WoW game time tokens...business' over

[@andresvaldevit3692]

William One comment..Ehem.. you didn't get it! I know what date it was, that's why I wrote that, because things have changed in time... "idiot" wasn't necessary

[@cederhillcantata8230]

Andres Valdevit Actually gold sellers now are making more than before from the wow game token system. They can offer the gold cheaper and thus people now can pay for subs with tokens cheaper than wow's controlled gold to token equivalent rate.

[@d33846]

Anyone else love Jared's voice?

[@danpt2000]

WoW is a shitty game.

[@locsaretheshit]

I, and 7 million people, disagree.

[@Haeruna]

Adam Hamilton How about the other 3 million that left within like 2 years?

[@danpt2000]

Adam Hamilton I played WoW for couple hours, each day for 5 days. Its just like this other game that I downloaded for free. Who the hell wants to sit around farming creatures for hours and hours.

[@alhslm]

danpt2000 Him, me, and 7 million other people...

[@locsaretheshit]

danpt2000 That's your summary of Warcraft ? "Farming creatures for hours and hours" ? No wonder you don't like the game buddy.

[@Pwntanq907]

I love videos that have Live Action Backrounds like this video, you can just tell where he edited the video for like, half a second or a second, to save time. Ha! I love it!

[@Lundvalnaden]

professional chinese gold farmer ?? he does nothing lol. he's not farming, he's not selling, he's not hacking. he's just a kid who knows chinese so he googled their ebay, found out they have low prices, and called american sites to buy from chinese but to give him a profit. LOL he sucks

[@Eddprzz]

lol how does he suck he does nothing but makes a little bit off every transaction done between the Americans and Chinese

[@Lundvalnaden]

Eduardo Perez he sucks because he's not a "profesional chinese gold farmer". he's just using chinese ebay and connects people.

[@pwenkojammy2894]

"Smart" is not a unit of currency

[@pwenkojammy2894]

That would make it a resourse. And using it to whatever capacity one wishes is entirely the freedom of the individual.

[@freezxng_moon]

2016 what is a clickbait title?

[@colourblind3213]

Smart guy, grats on your accomplishments, whatever they may be

[@thurguud]

awesome interview, thanks

[@KFC-Warrior]

As much as you may hate gold farming/this guy, he definitely knows what he's talking about, or at least it seems that way O.o

[@tucansam111]

The part about replacing people and support staff with a line of code.... as a classic wow player this hits me hahah

[@gscgold]

damn this video just showed up on my recommended watch list but it's 7 years old lol

[@colbicolbiWTF]

"Is there a future in this? Big gaming companies: yes but we're going to ban all this and provide the services ourselves!

[@theonlyconstantischange123]

Crypto: not if I have something to say about it

[@Asim2846]

A lot of very interesting points!

[@JuicyFruitSC]

The guy mentioned he have a blog, can i find this blog somewhere?

[@bondenjostein]

It's not illegal. There are no laws concerning virtual currency as a 3rd party. It is, however, against most game companies' Terms of Service, which you agree to when you start using their services (Play their games). If you break them the terms (Buy gold, pay for account services etc.) they won't allow you to use their service any further. (A ban). You are in no way a criminal.

[@tohopes]

Game companies didn't require players to change their password each month because that would be inconvenient for players, not because they couldn't be bothered to write the code for the new policy. It's a tradeoff between convenience and risk.

[@TonyMon16]

i can see why you aid that. the 360p here certainly is very good quality.

[@brutal-noodle]

very interesting interview. great watch.

[@MrJRhacks]

Please more of these :p,

[@TheCaffeinatedDM]

We can all say "wow, he's smart!" but is clearly not putting that to morally good use. No, gold farming isn't 'illegal,' as far as the law is concerned; but it ruins the game for others. I was literally JUST out trying to farm felcloth to get my Robe of the Void in classic and had to content with 3 seperate gold farming bots at every single camp. I wound up fearing the mobs away and got lucky enough to mess up the pathfinding on the bots so, that was a small win; but the people who are doing this aren't being paid fair wage, and may not even be doing this willingly. It's morally dubious at best, and quite honestly, I wish this guy would've just put his time into program development or the medical field. It would have done the world a lot more favors.

[@MyronMGains]

if anyone's ever played a small MMO without farmers, then they know just how much fun you can have at earning your gear, and at how attainable everything is. The worst thing was seeing items in Diablo 3 inflate in cost at a faster rate than I could legitimately farm gold.