Professor Avi Wigderson on the "P vs. NP" problem

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ETH Zürich

ETH Zürich

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@StreamlineCarry
@StreamlineCarry 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this. It is an awesome lecture!
@GregShubert
@GregShubert Жыл бұрын
Between 25:30 and 27:00, the product 193707721 * 761838257287 is 147573952589676412927, with 9 in the billions place, not 8. Does not affect his argument.
@josephfatur1747
@josephfatur1747 7 жыл бұрын
AW's is the only good explanation I've come across. Nice !
@medadrufus
@medadrufus 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent series of lectures
@jjames1977
@jjames1977 10 жыл бұрын
But there's still the question. What if there's a halting tester which works on all but a small class of problems, on which it says, correctly, "Aha, that would lead to a paradox."
@ESEJERITO
@ESEJERITO 11 жыл бұрын
pudiera medirse con matemáticas vectoriales como la de los poliedros en otra di mención multiplicado por el numero de posibles cara frac-tales dividido por el posible tiempo elevado a la masa del objeto. ¿?
@joen.8668
@joen.8668 8 жыл бұрын
P = NP P - NP = 0 P(1 - N) = 0 P = 0, N = 1 NP = N × P = 1 × 0 = 0 Thus, P = NP Q.E.D.
@patarnababan6440
@patarnababan6440 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulation. Go hurry for your 1 million dollar dude.
@markcarey67
@markcarey67 12 жыл бұрын
whether NP = P may well depend on our definition of computation we already know that quantum computers can in principle factor large numbers in very little time (Shor algorithm)
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse 4 жыл бұрын
It poses a similar problem, whether a universal quantum computer can efficiently simulate an arbitrary physical system.
@frankvega5473
@frankvega5473 7 жыл бұрын
P versus NP is considered one of the great open problems of science. This consists in knowing the answer of the following question: Is P equal to NP? This incognita was first mentioned in a letter written by John Nash to the National Security Agency in 1955. Since that date, all efforts to find a proof for this huge problem have failed. I show a solution to that problem as follows: Given a number x and a set S of n positive integers, MINIMUM is the problem of deciding whether x is the minimum of S. We can easily obtain an upper bound of n comparisons: find the minimum in the set and check whether the result is equal to x. Is this the best we can do? Yes, since we can obtain a lower bound of (n - 1) comparisons for the problem of determining the minimum and another obligatory comparison for checking whether that minimum is equal to x. A representation of a set S with n positive integers is a Boolean circuit C, such that C accepts the binary representation of a bit integer i if and only if i is in S. Given a positive integer x and a Boolean circuit C, we define SUCCINCT-MINIMUM as the problem of deciding whether x is the minimum bit integer which accepts C as input. For certain kind of SUCCINCT-MINIMUM instances, the input (x, C) is exponentially more succinct than the cardinality of the set S that represents C. Since we prove that SUCCINCT-MINIMUM is at least as hard as MINIMUM in order to the cardinality of S, then we could not decide every instance of SUCCINCT-MINIMUM in polynomial time. If some instance (x, C) is not in SUCCINCT-MINIMUM, then it would exist a positive integer y such that y < x and C accepts the bit integer y. Since we can evaluate whether C accepts the bit integer y in polynomial time and we have that y is polynomially bounded by x, then we can confirm SUCCINCT-MINIMUM is in coNP. If any single coNP problem cannot be solved in polynomial time, then P is not equal to coNP. Certainly, P = NP implies P = coNP because P is closed under complement, and therefore, we can conclude P is not equal to NP. You could read the details in the link below… hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01509423/document
@GenericInternetter
@GenericInternetter 10 жыл бұрын
ANYONE WHO USES COMIC SANS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN KIDS BIRTHDAY INVITATIONS IS QUESTIONABLE gave up at 0:55
@javiergilvidal1558
@javiergilvidal1558 7 жыл бұрын
You may have a point, the choice of lettering is childish and unfortunate, but in this case you are wrong. Widgerson may have bad taste designing his Power Points, but his contributions to scientific computing are impressive. Just check these nine papers: Saks & Wigderson 1986 Probabilistic Boolean Decision Trees and the Complexity of Evaluating Game Trees. In Proceedings of the 27th Annual IEEE Symposium on Foundations of Computer Science, pages 29-38, Toronto, Ontario, 1986. Karchmer & Wigderson, Monotone Circuits for Connectivity Require Superlogarithmic Depth, Proceedings of the 20th Annual Acm Symposium on Theoy of Computing, 539-550, 1988. Raz & Wigderson, Monotone Circuits for Matching Require Linear Depth, Proceedings of the 22nd Annual a Cm Symposium on Theory of Computing, 287-292, 1990. Histad, Wigderson, Composition of the Universal Relation, Manuscript, 1991. Karchmer, Raz, Wigderson. On Proving Super-Logarithmic Depth Lower Bounds Via the Direct Sum in Communication Complexity, Proceedings of the Sixth Annual Conference on Structure in Complexity Theory, 1991. Wigderson 2006. P, NP & Mathematics: a Computational Complexity Perspective. School of Mathematics, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton. Luby & Wigderson 2006. Pairwise Independence and Derandomization. Foundations and Trends in Theoretical Computer Science, Vol. 1, No 4 (2006) pp. 237-301 (sic). Håstad & Wigderson 2007. The Randomized Communication Complexity of Set Disjointness. Theory of Computing, 3(11):211-219. Chen, Kayal & Wigderson 2011. Partial Derivatives in Arithmetic Complexity and Beyond. Foundations and Trends in Theoretical Computer Science, Vol. 6, Nos 1-2 (2011) pp. 1-138. This guy certainly knows what he's talking about!
@readyplayersid
@readyplayersid 7 жыл бұрын
If you decide things based on Comic Sans, then you'll skip a lot of Computer Science presentations. CERN researchers love to use Comic Sans - www.theverge.com/2012/7/4/3136652/cern-scientists-comic-sans-higgs-boson
@trdi
@trdi 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder what could be said about someone using caps.
@TheFepe20
@TheFepe20 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, so check out the prize he got today...
@Kalumbatsch
@Kalumbatsch 3 жыл бұрын
@@trdi LOL burn
@ThinkTank255
@ThinkTank255 12 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with the presenter assertion that P =/= NP is a good thing. Cryptography and security are VERY bad for humanity because if we do discover that P = NP then our economy will come to a halt. And, contrary to what the presenter asserts, I strongly believe (based on studying and work I have done) that P = NP, and biology (especially the human brain) is evidence of this. He simply dismissed this idea with his silly joke about putting biology into our laptop.
@keremayoz
@keremayoz 6 жыл бұрын
Did you achieve anything new about the problem P vs NP ?
@MrGodzylla
@MrGodzylla 12 жыл бұрын
it look like the Plank wall. it is easier to understand. if i can, he is too much looking for on the way to use P=PN and forget the only philosophy of it.
@sb.sb.sb.
@sb.sb.sb. 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@uga5535
@uga5535 12 жыл бұрын
This is not true. P is defined as the class of languages that can be decided by a deterministic polynomial-time Turing machine. So the computational model is an inherent part of that definition and cannot simply be changed. Of course, you may define quantum analogues of these classes, for example BQP, which may (and, as you rightly claim, is suspected to) be more powerful than P.
@jakejanuzelli1874
@jakejanuzelli1874 7 жыл бұрын
Technically, but basically everyone assumes the Church Turing Thesis (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church-Turing_thesis), of which quantum computers are the only suspected counterexamples. Other than that any "reasonable" computational model you assume will be equivalent to Turing Machines.
@Eagle-jo8cx
@Eagle-jo8cx 5 жыл бұрын
I study Computer Science and I have noticed that the more advance the topic is, the worse the design of the website/presentation gets 😂😂 yellow text with comic sans font on a blue background come on 😂
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It tells us how to get good at compsci and maths. Simply make work messy and handwriting unintelligible and abstract away all the design.
@bthdimension
@bthdimension 12 жыл бұрын
The guy may know a lot about maths and IT but absolutly nothing about design ^^
@Serfuzz
@Serfuzz 12 жыл бұрын
Anyone else click this away after a minute because of the slides design
@AshishKumar-jj7yw
@AshishKumar-jj7yw 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. We don’t care about these things.
@slimshadow777
@slimshadow777 9 жыл бұрын
mathmatically easy practicaly impossible
@mbengiepeter965
@mbengiepeter965 6 жыл бұрын
slimshadow777 if P was equal to NP then we will use that same algorithm to solve all the other 6 questions. The P versus NP question is the most important of the 7 problems
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