Professor Niall Ferguson: A second Holocaust Is possible and we must do everything to prevent it

On this episode of 'The Western Spirit', we spoke with renowned Historian professor Niall Ferguson on a wide range of critical issues.
Amongst the topics discussed were Ferguson's views on Jews and their contributions to western culture, the current rise of antisemitism, the connection between the elite universities and intellectuals in Germany and the Holocaust, and his fear we are headed in a similar direction today.
We also delved into why he believes faith is important to the well being of any society, and took a dive into Nial's views on 'wokeness' and its dangers, as well his hopes for the future.

[@bearowen5480]

When I listen to Niall here and on other venues, I realize that the Scottish Enlightenment is not dead!

[@niallohea9635]

He should be mandatory listening to for all. Yes you can disagree with him but his arguments are very very well constructed. And by seeing his point of view you realize that you’ve been educated - it’s as simple as that.

[@PrincipledUncertainty]

I live in Ireland and on the morning of Oct 7th, I came home after working night duty. I was upset over the videos I had watched on X on my commute and after bumping into a friend, who I had regarded as an intelligent and decent person, I expressed as much. Immediately after conveying my horror at what had happened I was met with a dark look and then chastised for supporting "colonialism". This was not weeks later after the reprisals had begun, but that morning. I will never forget that.

[@normbale2757]

Push back. Don't be scared into silence.

[@PrincipledUncertainty]

@normbale2757 I did, and I won't.

[@PrincipledUncertainty]

@bensanderson7144 I envy you your naivety. It must be wonderful to see things on an entirely surface level. No complexity, just endless spoonfuls of that sweet, sweet propaganda.

[@cliomuse1206]

I was always fascinated by the anti-semitism of the Irish. For some reason, they identify with the Palestinians, which is bizarre. I understand their troubled relationship with England is the root of all that, but their take on Israel/Palestine is just ignorant. Colonialism? How about the colonialism of the Arab Islamism that took over the Levant and slaughtered the indigenous Christians, Druze, Phoenicians, etc. rendering them into minorities in their own land? It’s just insane.

[@PrincipledUncertainty]

@cliomuse1206 Indeed. Who do people think created the state of Israel? Jerusalem was not constructed by the Arabs. I am struggling to think of a population who have a longer claim to their territory. The Assyrians and Carthaginians are long gone. No Elaine's or Hittites still survive, only the Jews held on, despite the world's best efforts. Even the English are mostly German or viking "colonisers." The Islamic empire is the last man standing and one that has erased countless wonderful cultures that will never return. The Pelestinians are engaging in bottom-up asymmetrical warfare, an almost impossible strategy to overcome in the era of mass media. Unless the more powerful party is almost universally despised and no longer has anything to lose. I take no joy in it, but Hamas just learnt that throwing all your chips in can have terrible consequences.

[@Gorbyrev]

So grateful for this conversation. As a Christian Zionist within the Church of Scotland I greatly appreciate Prof Ferguson's expression of philosemitism. We need more of that in these days in the West and particularly in the church.

[@antbrown9066]

“…if you can’t tell the difference between aggression and retaliation, if you don’t understand that fundamental distinction, then you shouldn’t really be trying to comment on historical events of any sort.” Excellently put.

[@thesilkpainter]

Yep. And it works both ways.

[@antbrown9066]

@@thesilkpainter explain

[@antbrown9066]

@@thesilkpainter explain what you meant?

[@majozishow]

Excellent interview! I'm from South Africa, and will be visiting Israel this April. I'm looking forward.

[@atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891]

ברוך הבא

[@bazlur-Vancouver]

Pandor said all Jews would be arrested and will back to South Africa

[@shmachable]

I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And I'm also philo-Semitic. As a native English speaker who has dabbled in learning about half a dozen languages, I've never been bowled over by the sense that I was learning about long-lost cousins like I did studying Hebrew. For the 5 semesters I studied it, I felt like I was learning about my family. I can't explain it. As far as I've looked, I don't have any recent Jewish ancestors (going back to roughly about the 1700s), and I don't have any known family living in Israel, but I can't help loving a people, a religion, a culture, a country that give me such a sense of family connection.

[@hadror13]

If you know Hebrew it will be easier if you chose to come into the faith

[@user-vc7sn6oy3j]

"About" half a dozen languages?! Don't you know the exact number? LOL

[@sharonreichter2537]

It's not just students that are afraid to say what they think - most of us are now.

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade.

[@stevensica5918]

Yeah, many are afraid to criticize Israel openly, after the reign of terror unleashed by Bill Ackman and his like-minded partners in ideological crime.

[@stevensica5918]

Yeah, be careful what you say about war-mongering Likudists when creatures like Bill Ackman are around and listening. Unless you want to get doxed and blacklisted.

[@user-nt5vv2jw9i]

So many interesting ideas discussed… You should publish excerpts from the interview as separate videos!

[@lesleylambourn9113]

Fantastic interview. I so admire professor Ferguson's balanced views and his historical knowledge. Funny how so many of us feel "at home" when visiting Israel.

[@bc9137]

Brilliant guest!

[@Unmoved12345]

As an Israeli, I'd like to thank Niall Ferguson. We don't have too many true friends in the world.

[@sharonreichter2537]

I believe you have far more than is apparent. People are afraid, sadly.

[@veracruz3669]

​@@sharonreichter2537 We also are law Abiding citizens not thugs...

[@davidschneide5422]

As a Jewish American, I'm ashamed to watch my brethren welcome hate.

[@a5r2g9j4]

And surely the friends of that fail state of state terrorism will decrease more and more and israel and the US will be completely isolated soon1

[@antbrown9066]

You have the greatest of True friends. This period of darkness will be for a moment. Light will shine soon!

[@tomburroughes9834]

Excellent interview, one of my intellectual heroes. I remember his books from over a decade ago, and thought that this chap was the real deal. Like the Professor, I am a philo-Semite; I have tremendous respect for this religion and associated culture and what it has wrought in the world. My best wishes and hopes go to Israelis and followers of the great Jewish faith.

[@elyashiv11]

Oh what a guest.. Thanks fascinating

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Nial is good honest,intelligent man whos moral compas isnt broken..whats wrong is wrong,whats lies is lies,facts are facts..PERIOD

[@megantaylor4189]

It's not new and weird if you look at the exact same alliances that were formed in Iran,the Mullahs and the left. It worked, got rid of the Shah, then the left was massacred by the Mullahs. A well used playbook.

[@Zensci18]

“Go the distance Niall!” ..on behalf of your friend in heaven, Rabbi Dr. Jonathan Sacks of blessed memory.

[@jacklondon295]

The late Italian journalist and war correspondent Oriana Fallaci described the Left-Islamist alliance very extensively and in shocking detail and how its influence swept through Western European institutions over the course of 50 years. Her books and lectures are deeply disturbing. She put out the clarion call a generation ago and paid quite a price.

[@andersschmich8600]

Maybe they can help us fight off the never ending Bantoid hordes.

[@grannyannie2948]

I have heard the left Islam alliance described as the who're of Babylon rides on the beasts back, a biblical quote.

[@margarita8416]

had to look her up - wow. she was truly bright and courageous lady. thank you for sharing your thoughts

[@erichwalrath970]

Haven't heard that name in a very long time. Oriana Fallaci was a treasure. Thanks for bringing her back to mind.

[@metgirl5429]

Looking her up ….🕊

[@user-nt5vv2jw9i]

What an amazing interview…

[@geoffreydebrito7934]

Evil must be confronted and met with whatever it may respond. Hate is NOT open to reason, logic or facts. You fight fire with fire.

[@gmw3083]

You foresee zionzend...

[@hadror13]

@gmw3083 lol still not learnt your lessons

[@geoffreybritain8878]

still unable to articulate a meaningful response@@hadror13

[@geoffreybritain8878]

only if evil is not confronted effectively@@gmw3083

[@gmw3083]

@@geoffreybritain8878 Meaningful responses aren't easy these daze. I'm surprised when I manage to get them posted...

[@rickipacaci1338]

Wonderful conversation. Common sense and intelligent. Thank goodness for his sanity. There’s a glimmer of hope. 🙏🏻

[@roberthumphreys7977]

An excellent interview. Thanks.

[@dannycaplan6614]

A second holocaust? Was the holocaust the first holocaust really?

[@stevensica5918]

It was the first mass killing to have that descriptor attached to it.

[@garryrichardson4572]

It’s been years since I have heard and seen Niall. We used to see him a lot here in Australia but he must have been elsewhere.

[@grannyannie2948]

I'm also Australian. He's everywhere on KZbin. I recommend his conversations with John Anderson, previously deputy Prime Minister of Australia.

[@evelynmccabe3855]

Very interesting and informative discussion.

[@metallicbeast]

Nice interview

[@mariamichael1669]

“There can never be a two state solution in my lifetime “……. No truer word spoken hence why N Furgerson is so well respected.

[@goldennuggets75]

War is as natural to humans as peace. Technology may have evolved, but the same fears, anxieties, hatreds are still with us ready to be kindled by those who want to and know how. Those people will always try to gain power and sometimes succeed. Many of the people shouting the loudest for love, peace, justice, equality are the most consumed by hate, anger, resentment, intolerance and are easily manipulated. Once movements gain enough momentum they become unstoppable and will play out to their inevitable conclusion. Unless we remember these the consequences will be tragic.

[@victorswenson5026]

"Everything I thought I knew at the age of 17 was wrong" Ha HA H You go Niall, Tell it like it is. "When I think of all the crap I learned in high school, its a wonder I can think at all"

[@dianamarahenry1020]

What is the date of this interview?

[@VytisMaleckasBrunius76]

Just excellent!

[@Isabel-oq3vf]

Niall is a true intellectual, a rare breed these days…

[@siamcharm7904]

he's a light weight . very shoddy scholarship.

[@rsr789]

@@siamcharm7904 And your peer-reviewed published papers can be found where, exactly?

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

​@siamcharm7904 please let me know which of his books you have read. I have only read 3 or 4, but they were all great. Maybe the rest are shit though.

[@leslieelizabeth219]

I love listening to him.He educates me. I discovered him a few years back with his series about the history of money.

[@vigourboost8316]

@@siamcharm7904Prove it, I dare you!

[@mikeryan2802]

Brilliant! Some very incisive questions.

[@motiosterman6225]

Thank you, Niall.

[@michellegoldman1716]

Aah, the sweet sound of logic and fact-based analysis. My heart and mind are happy when listening to the wonderful Niall Ferguson. Thank you, sir!

[@Sewandsew58]

Brilliant ! I so enjoyed this stimulating conversation. To know great minds, like Niall, his wife, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Douglas Murray and others are at work in a world where so many institutions like MSM, academia etc seem to have succumbed to a type of lunacy, is very reassuring. 🙏 Thank you.

[@SpringwaterParkcc]

You are certainly consistent in the qualiity of scholarshop.

[@mathewwelsh9129]

I am a huge fan of Niall Ferguson's. He's insightful and extremely articulate and wise. And he's obviously very patient and kind . The interviewer is an intellectual Lightweight by several orders of magnitude below Niall's experience. But Niall is happy to have a discussion. He seems like a very generous person.

[@Lxx-tc4xc]

I was assigned Meineke's "The German Catastrophe" in 1970, as required reading in a freshman course on European ideologies from the French Revolution to the end of fascism. But that course did not mention Carl Schmitt, whom I discovered only this century.

[@vivalavita4574]

Thank you

[@NarcArtTherapy]

Niall should partner with Mises institute and bring in some of their fabulous economists for lectures. It's so fundamental to freedom to understand how economies do and don't function according to the best interests of ordinary people.

[@susansilverman3957]

Brilliant interview

[@tmay1545]

Very interesting to see recent history as a history of decolonization.

[@user-cy1fv6up1o]

Thank you for a fascinating and interesting post.

[@user-ed3yi2nv9g]

At the age of 70 one is still learning!

[@BertWald-wp9pz]

Strange how safe space is not a place where it is safe to try out risky ideas. The idea that speech is violence is also curious because in a sense silence is violence because when views cannot be expressed it does not stop them being held amongst like minded groups who will reinforce their own views in opposition to other groups which becomes tribal. Hopefully the new Austin University will promote homeostasis which is how things evolve. Society inevitably generates changes which create imbalance. Naturally there will be a reaction that will find a new balance. Authoritarian controls actually stop the balance naturally resetting which holds forces in unresolved opposition until things collapse when negative consequences become overwhelming.

[@hadror13]

DEI ideals can be weaponized into the next destructive ideal humanity has produced. Since it speaks in vague terms and absolutes at the same time it's incoherent and also propagates division racism through "identity". Very dangerous rabbit hole to go down

[@shrimpie202]

Brilliant 🎉

[@gerrytyrrell1507]

Brilliant..guys....Ireland

[@mariamichael1669]

Spelt his name wrong…. Apologies.

[@ztkspace5885]

I don't think anyone truly has the right to claim full scope of understanding regarding theatres of conflict unless on the ground and even then, in theatre there is always conflict of opinion regarding scale and accuracy of events. Only one professor I know can truly give valid accuracy on warfare and that is Professor Bentine whom has vast knowledge for his capability to record events from a hidden dimension. This has he able to witness events to the full and because of his knowledge of THz Frequencies has even been able to rescue victims and witness of warfare whom have been able to purvey better account of events through battle re-enactments, on a table top sandpit. There has been some consternation on retrieving the rescued combatants from the other frequency but together with BBC Video and Audio Technology and the capability to follow footprints and explosions on the tabletop sandpit we are now able to experience the full horrors of conflict. Together with the dismissal of the BBC TV License fee a new TGHz frequency will enable us to id those rescued. We can only pray!

[@tvismyonlyfriend]

15:46 here for it Neil I watched your videos when I took big risks in college

[@ceciliawedgwood4321]

Do historians give a ‘ declaration of interests ‘ like medics do ? And , what about part 2 of Balfour Declaration regarding indigenous population?

[@mountainrambler7926]

57:31 Niall’s argument is incredibly optimistic. Nothing to do with Christianity or the English system of political liberty?

[@gmw3083]

Israel has become lalaland, and that's why Niall fits in...

[@hadror13]

@gmw3083 such an ignorant troll

[@stevensica5918]

Xtians can neither help nor hurt his USA career in any meaningful manner. The Israel Firsters can and will, so make of that what you will.

[@beth3535]

October 7th being minimized is appalling.

[@EastoftheDanube]

Its being minimised because the response to it is so horrifying and way out of proportion. 30,000 dead Palestinians for 1200 dead Israelis? If that’s proportional then logic suggests that one Jewish life is worth 25+ Palestinian lives.

[@beth3535]

@@EastoftheDanube Disagree. Payback is a bitch.

[@EastoftheDanube]

@@beth3535 it certainly is. “Vengeance is mine, I will repay.”Deuteronomy 32:35. We shall see whose interpretation of that verse is correct in the days and weeks to come. Yours or mine.

[@beth3535]

@@EastoftheDanube Since when did proportionality become the guiding principle of military engagements? In board games maybe.

[@EastoftheDanube]

@@beth3535 since after WW2, the first war where unarmed civilians were directly attacked by both the allies and the axis. Prior to that war, civilian deaths were limited in wars because the technology for the means of killing us was absent, eg aerial bombing, mass labour camps, fast mass transportation, etc. It is a war crime for an armed military to attack unarmed civilians, according to international law. It’s also a war crime according to Catholic just war doctrine. Advances in military technology meant new laws of war needed to be introduced. But these laws are now no longer worth the paper they were written on. For most people that is terrifying given the advances in military technology.

[@hadror13]

The interviewer is talking more than the guest 🤦‍♂️

[@stevensica5918]

The interviewer has an agenda, to steer NF in the direction of supporting Israel and condemning the Pallys. His intentions are transparent.

[@thewkovacs316]

it is truly amazing how an academic fraud like edward said has been so influential

[@hadror13]

Shouldn't be in an age where "protocols of the elders of zion " and"mein kampf" are best sellers in certain countries around the globe

[@stevensica5918]

I'll take Said over you any day. Write a book refuting ANY of his published works. Any one. Are you up to the challenge?

[@AuditorInvestor]

Niall is my kin in spirit.

[@marilinemariline9556]

The concept of the veil of ignorance where the legislator, not knowing what role he would assume in society, would make equitable laws. This abstraction was replaced by oppressor(rich) X oppressed (poor)

[@talmoskowitz5221]

In the 70s at Duke and in the 80s at Stanford Rawls and his Veil formed a touchstone of the aggreived Left.

[@stevensica5918]

36:55, the interviewer gives it all away. He wants to get to how this affects USA policy, Want to guess how he prefers those effects to play out?

[@mountainrambler7926]

21:48 Dear host, Your portrayal of intellectuals in a positive light as curious and open needs rethinking. Consider reading Friedrich Hayek, “The Intellectuals and Socialism” where he described them as “professional secondhand dealers in ideas.” Ferguson makes this pretty clear, as well. So does Thomas Sowell throughout his writings - he gave them the mock title, “the anointed.” Conclusion: The intellectuals are frequently biased, collectivist, even shameless actors.

[@gmw3083]

Niall is one of them..

[@hadror13]

@gmw3083 you're obsessed innit

[@simondaukes9329]

Lesson 1. This conflict did not begin Oct 7th. You don’t need to go all that way to learn that. I strongly suspect you’re not too open minded about what you hope to learn.

[@user-vc7sn6oy3j]

Israel left Gaza in 2005 & Hamas spent the billions in aid on tunnels & weapons in their continued obsession for killing unarmed Israelis.

[@user-lt2tu9wr7y]

You are right. It started in1948 when Jordan and Egypt invaded the territory that should be Palestine.

[@ef2718]

@@user-lt2tu9wr7y The Arab Israeli conflict had started when Mohamad failed to convince Jews to adopt him as a leader.

[@Kitzandbitz]

Britain was the author of its own demise when they opposed the return of the jews after the end of WW2

[@sanych5295]

I am a Jewish (by ancestry) atheist (by lack of ANY belief). I do stick to the Jewish principle - don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you. However, now I am leaning more toward - do to others before they do it to you. As for Jewish survival over millenniums - that was the natural (or not so) selection (not a good word) of the most stubborn.

[@TC-cd5fh]

More 'helpful' context from YT. I want free speech. I want to hear NF. He's clever. He got some 'stuff' right on the issues he engages with.

[@user-oi9iz9jr8y]

I could listen to Niall all day long

[@kevinscottbjornson]

There is a problem with atheism, it is simply negative and doesn't provide anything positive to believe in. The problem with theism is not its specific conclusions, but the method employed as a means. The bad aspects of religion are the use of the means of faith as a method used in relation to others, to the world extern to the self. One can have self-confidence based on faith, but to use faith as a means of knowing external reality, or as a guide for when to use force against others, externalizes the harm. Humanism doesn't necessarily negate religion, instead proposes a range of things appropriate to human nature. To say that morality must be faith-based, invites disaster such as can be seen in Afghanistan and the Soviet Union, both based on faith applied socially. Morality was certainly practiced before religion evolved to the point where it is today. Stoicism certainly provides a guide to morality, without the necessity of faith. While faith can be used to justify immorality.

[@russelldavis2456]

Is Ra El?

[@uchiigtana]

Oh NO!!!!!

[@amycohen1960]

Thank you Mr. Fergusson

[@philostreet781]

The level of education of a person or a country won’t automatically grant them capability of self-reflection. Doctors cannot diagnoses themselves. Ferguson is a good example!

[@doggod07]

The BSASS (Brown Shirt Academy of Social Science).

[@tonymurphy9795]

A 'second' Holocaust?

[@kristine8338]

Antisemitism isn’t only restricted to the Palestinians. Show it to us in our own actions and behaviour and start teaching everyone what is deeply embedded in our day to day Lives. After several generations this might help. Talk about all the Jewish artists, scientists, humanitarians through the ages that made our world a better place in order to counter these images of war. Explain the flag of Israel 🇮🇱. As above so below.

[@stevensica5918]

NONE of those things takes Israel of the hook for aggression, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and all-around treachery. Einstein is cool. Bibi is not. Very simple.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Christ divine nature central authority unity with substantive human rights choice for international law

[@candidbowyer4625]

This video is mostly nothing to do with "another Shoah". It's a mixed bag of typical rightwing grievances presented in a much more interesting & superficially persuasive way than usual, but that's all it is. Focus on 1 thing.....for example, how was Edward Said wrong if you say so ? ~Or maybe, how exactly were the Israeli &/or Jewish students allegedly harassed ?

[@stevensica5918]

None of that is an ingredient in the immense word salad they prepare for the unwashed gentile masses. And expect us to consume with gratitude

[@micheldumonceau9776]

In two words: narcissistic nonsense.

[@AlubaFenix]

“Ludicrous to characterise Israel as the oppressor and the Palestinians as the oppressed.” Tells you all you need to know about Ferguson’s perspective. Why is it so hard for the state of Israel to look at itself and see what it has become? There was immense pain caused on Oct 7th AND there is immense pain occurring day by day in Gaza. The only way to a lasting peace is for both sides to open their hearts to really feel the pain of the other. And in that process realise the common humanity that unites all the people of this land. Domination and Apartheid is not a long term solution to this crisis.

[@ef2718]

The old community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white. *In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs. 1929 is 19 years before the reinstitution of Israel, 38 years before Israel took Gaza strip from Egypt, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs has even started.

[@ruskoruskov3086]

Lad's it's not possible to debate & discuss & intellectulise mass killing regardless who's doing the killing or dying... Niall would be worth listening to when he becomes independent & goes to Moscow & Gaza to add to his learning....among his peer group....

[@corpsmankind]

Gaza and Palestine is facing a holocaust presently. "Never again" apparently doesn't apply? Pray for the children of Gaza

[@hadror13]

Israelis are helping Palestinians and everyone in the region get rid of Hamas. War is always horrific and the conclusion is to not Intitiate a war unless ready to deal with the consequences of waging war. The comparison of the Hamas was to the holocaust is ignorant at best and vile at worst

[@corpsmankind]

@hadror13 I never mentioned "Hamas", you just conflate palestine with hamas. Israel has killed over 20 thousand children in Gaza, are you insane or ignorant?

[@jeffreywise4807]

All wars are tragic. Mass casualties are always horrifying. But all mass casualties during war do not constitute a “holocaust”or a genocide and Gaza is no exception. Words have meaning and distinctions matter. Go read something and become better informed before you next express your opinion and launch ignorant, dangerous, inflammatory and slanderous accusations.

[@corpsmankind]

@jeffreywise4807 I'm very well informed. I have fought in wars in the middle east. War is hell. What's happening in Gaza in not a a war, its a slaughter of most children. Israel has had gaza imprisoned behind walls for years, and controls their water and food, that's not a war, that's starving and bombing your prison after a prison break (oct7).

[@EastoftheDanube]

@@jeffreywise4807the definition of “war” is two relatively equal militaries - with soldiers - fighting out their political differences. That is not happening in Gaza. Hamas and Hezbollah are no match for the Israeli military. For starters, they don’t have nuclear weapons. Israel is dropping powerful bombs on unarmed civilians. They have also cut off the electricity and water supplies.

[@anettesandgren3338]

Trump, remarkably successful, how surprising….. ❤

[@user-ed3yi2nv9g]

The voice of reason and honesty.moral.

[@MSNewton-sd4hw]

I have read several books by Niall Ferguson and am therefore unsurprised by his arguments here. He is an extremely useful idiot for the cause he supports. I do think however that there are two issues here. What he has to say about the state of affairs on anglophone campuses is supported by everything I read and a cause for despair. Denying however that settlers in the West Bank are not settlers and not colonialist is not something i would expect of an enlightened Scot.

[@victormeidan1062]

How can Jews be colonialists in Judea ? NOTE: The "d" was dropped in Modern English but it still exists in Dutch, German, Latin, Hebrew and Arabic.

[@dogbert52]

Its ok. You are also a "settler" and will be treated in the same way by the cult of peace when they march upon your country.

[@davidcoard1978]

Hmmm, he tends to use the word "purported". In so doing he casts doubts on the veracity of his target group 7:54 (s), without providing evidence. Sadly he is these days regarded as a propagandist not a hustorian.

[@gmw3083]

Niall is a paid propwasher

[@hadror13]

Lol by whom?

[@gmw3083]

@@hadror13 The forces of zion have many ways to compensate their defenders. They own the mainstream media. They own DC. Netanyahu jokes about it...

[@gmw3083]

@@hadror13 The forces of zion have many ways to compensate their defenders.

[@gmw3083]

@@hadror13 Netanyahu jokes about his control over DC. Niall is minor in comparison..

[@muradtalukdar4401]

He's right it's possible. It's happening right now in Gaza.

[@thewkovacs316]

how dare you

[@Waterhorse1]

​@@thewkovacs316 easy - it's true

[@hadror13]

Ridiculous at best. Vile comparison at worst

[@thewkovacs316]

@@Waterhorse1 ok, whatever you say be brave....be like bushnell

[@johnohare69]

Is Zionism a religion or a political ideology? Is it possible that the legitimate world wide anti Zionist demonstrations are actually more about universal human rights and empathy for the massacred 30,000 Palestinian civilians, 5000 of whom are children and not about the Jewish faith or the people who practice the faith?

[@ef2718]

*Some samples of LAST 20 years:* Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead Syria's civil war 500,000 dead South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead No protests for all these dead.

[@victormeidan1062]

Zionism is the reaction to the dangerous ideology of palestinianism.

[@stevensica5918]

It's a political ideology held with the fervor of religious belief.

[@victormeidan1062]

@@ef2718 Just proves that the hatred of J people is the driving force.

[@victormeidan1062]

@@stevensica5918 Amas is exactly that.

[@miketomlin6040]

Sure is. Trump, Putin, Orban.......very similar to Hitler!

[@tanyakoch7418]

Not Trump

[@miketomlin6040]

@@tanyakoch7418 Trump is in the top 2 rows on the compass/spectrum, so classified as an Authoritarian Nationalist.

[@bayviewholding]

Simple - Israel needs to become a superpower

[@garryrichardson4572]

I think they will. If the jihadiys increase their hold on the west the 10 northern tribes may come back to occupy from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates 😂. GOG and Magog come to mind.

[@adelmomarietta3964]

Baruch HaShem. May Israel grow from strength to strength.❤🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱❤

[@stevensica5918]

They'll still leech off of the USA even if they do.

[@WD-41469]

Would love a discussion on false flags, and the emotional capital produced by creating a victimhood narrative.

[@gmw3083]

Niall can't do that discussion

[@hadror13]

You mean Hamas committing satanic horrors then crying victim?

[@WD-41469]

@@hadror13 you know exactly what I mean

[@user-vc7sn6oy3j]

Yeah...everything's a conspiracy. The internet was made for you.

[@RobertGuzauskas]

1) Why is there no discussion of the causes of antisemitism? 2) Corollary: Why are other people not subjected to similar persecution? 3) Jews could change to end the persecution, ...but most choose not to change. What's the payoff for the Jew? NOTE: The vast majority of modern Jews are converts and not Semites.

[@beth3535]

Change what, exactly?

[@YechielLevin]

Considering that "reasons for antisemitism" have historically included everything and its opposite, it's almost antisemitic to suggest that the Jews could stop it somehow by changing something. A brief summary: * they're too rich. * they're too poor. * they're evil capitalists. * they're bloody Communists. * they're globalist. * they're nationalist. * they're too religious. * they're too atheist. Getting the picture?

[@YechielLevin]

The charge that most modern Jews are converts is likewise completely detached from reality. Judaism has never been a proselytizing religion, and actively discourages people wishing to convert. Mainly because according to Judaism, a heavenly reward is NOT limited to Jews only. Any non-Jew can go to heaven, and the bar for doing so is A LOT LOWER than for Jews. Basically if you're a decent human being and a monotheist of any kind, you're in.

[@ef2718]

Why do Shiites kill Sunnis? Why do Sunnis kill Shiites? Why are Alawites fighting Salafists? Why are Coptic churches being bombed? Why are the Rohingya persecuted? Why is there genocide in Darfur? Why are Druze keeping secluded and secretive about their religion? Why did Shia need taqiyya? Why were Catholics slaughtering protestants and vice versa? Why were Albigenses, Anabaptists, Mennonites, Calvinists, Puritans, Mormons, Huguenots, Bogomils, Amish, Mormons all persecuted? And that's just a partial list. Which makes one appreciate Jews, who endured ~3300 years.

[@user-ks2zg9rf2v]

Ok, no, 2 state solution, do 1 state for all with equal rights. If Scotland is not independent , Scottish people are still equal to others.

[@evelynmccabe3855]

There was a Referendum held in Scotland on 18th Sept.2014 for Scottish Independence. Result was - 45% voted YES for Independence and 55% voted NO to Independence. So Scotland remains in the United Kingdom

[@guylevy3048]

Yet the scots are still ruled over by England....palestinians would need to completely give up their ideology for israel to allow a palestinian state....they have one of two choices....holding on to their destructive ideology or choosing peace and respect for Israel amd jews ......they can't have both 😊

[@paulamarsh1]

There already are two states : Jordan and Israel..we don't need a third 🙄

[@user-ks2zg9rf2v]

Your comments are out of the frame. No wonder one-eye ideology. Sooner tgan later, there will be one free state on the land of Palestine, with equal rights for all its inhabitants.

[@advocate1563]

No they're not. They're superior to others thanks to the Barrett formula. Many of us would like Scoland gone, leaving the.upgrade behind it. Wishing the Scottish Independence movement every success so the Englsih can move on.

[@59Gretsch]

When I listen to this conversation I actually get a little bit angry at Jews. The Palestinian marches irritate the hell out of me but Jews have overwhelmingly supported the immigration of these people into the country, how dare they now complain. Individually to support mass immigration in every large Jewish group supports it and even advocates for it. And I’m not really sympathetic about the Jewish students, where were the Jews with their perches of influence When whole university courses Focusing on erasing whiteness in solely focused on vilifying white people. How many wealthy donors withdrew funding then? While I certainly don’t wish any harm to jews, i’m having problems being sympathetic to their pain because too many of them in positions of influence have created these problems and then naïvely thought that they were in a special category of white. Now they know.

[@tb8865]

The story of the Golem of Prague comes to mind.

[@moxiechacha1146]

You sound like an antisemite. Please just stop your nonsense.

[@beth3535]

They’re complaining just as others are about people who are immigrating and then demanding accommodation without respect for the host’s culture, social system, values, and economy.

[@YechielLevin]

The problem wasn't immigration per se. It was the combination of immigration and the lack of forced assimilation (i. e. multiculturalism).

[@59Gretsch]

@@YechielLevinWhat types of immigration should Israel do? 2. I think your assumption that forced assimilation is guaranteed to work in the way you want it when we have no evidence that bringing such different people together will not forever be a tinderbox.

[@castelodeossos3947]

Takes only little reading about Hitler's Nazi regime and its attempted extermination of the Jews to understand that to claim a second Holocaust is possible is nothing less than utterly ridiculous. Anyone who makes such a ridiculous claim deserves no one's attention.

[@resolecca]

how so? do you mean it can never will happen? or do you mean it is inevitable?

[@seanspaulding]

You can discuss “De-Colonialization of Palestine by Britain” and the simultaneous transition to “Colonialization of Palestine by European Zionists” at the same time, sir! To postulate that the classroom cannot have both discussions is ridiculous.

[@rsr789]

More than half the Jews in Israel are Mizrahi, thanks for proving you know NOTHING about this subject.

[@adii.3665]

The arab muslims first invaded Israel in the 7th century and made it part of their empire. That's colonialism. Not the de-coloniazation of the land by it's indigenous jewish people who reclaimed it.

[@NJIT22]

We don’t care about your formulation of events. Not “colonization” but repatriation of Jews from around the world. Israelis a strong and has a right to defend themselves

[@grannyannie2948]

How about decolonising Europe for Europeans

[@hadror13]

But it didn't happen "At the same time"!!! Also the Jews fought against the Brits you illiterate

[@innernouter]

The only way to avoid such a situation is for the Jewish people to look inwards. I have seen examples of this lately and it gives me hope for these people.

[@anitamurkes9511]

What do you mean ?

[@offroadoffshore153]

I am amazed that Nial thinks that conflating anti Zionism with anti Semeticsm still has traction. Even more disingenuous is to address the claim of settler colonialism as being invalid by ignoring the Arab indigenous population being in the 90% majority 100 years ago and at 1948 reduced to 70% then that majority being forcibly removed by Israel the occupying authority.. Then wind forward to today half of greater Israel's population now lives in apartheid like conditions.Thinking that can be ignored when there is no better example of settler colonialism and that something else is the foundation to Oct 7 borders on bizzare. Thinking bombing Gaza into the stone age has no consequences is lunacy. The greatest threat to Israel is itself.

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

Spell check is your friend, you seem a little bit discombobulated but I get the message that you don't like Jews and you want to criticize it from an academic perspective, but that academic perspective is pointless when you're talking about the longest history indigenous people on the planet that we are aware of

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

Paragraph separations are your friend.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

​@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape lmao I typed and posted my reply to this comment before seeing yours.

[@offroadoffshore153]

@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape No issue with Jews at all. Issues are with reality being ignored or misrepresented to defend Zionism.

[@offroadoffshore153]

@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape Longest living indigenous people on earth are the Australian aboriginal at 60,000 years. That is not in white supremacist history books I guess.

[@thomasshotter9023]

I watched with enjoyment up until almost the end. Then Niall started making PRO ROTHSCHILD statements!! What the actual Fu*k?

[@the_Brainjuice]

He is an expert on on the history of the rotschild family. Makes you wonder.

[@hadror13]

"Pro rotchild" what the hell do you know about that family? Where do you get your info you illiterate

[@stevensica5918]

Keeping his bread buttered?

[@marvinbrando722]

For the Palestinians maybe

[@conniedean3787]

This has nothing to do with Antisemitism this has to do with 15,000 children and babies were killed, and are starving to death, I lost a child it's something you never forgive or forget 😢

[@guylevy3048]

Then hamas shouldn't of started a war they couldn't win

[@conniedean3787]

@@guylevy3048 all 2 million Palestinians are NOT HAMAS, most countries - if the terrorists are hiding behind children, they would never kill 15,000 children and babies to kill the terrorists that is cruel and insane 😢

[@antoniopacelli]

​@@guylevy3048 You're winning a War while you're Losing your Race. Loosing touch with Humanity isn't exactly The Type of Winning Strike that can endure Much in Time.. You might have killed yourselves by Classification as an Antagonist Threat just to Murder people who to you were Considerable Lesser than Humans... Basically you became Lesser Humans by Default Denying Humankind a Humane Treatment... That you made it in an Humble way or not... If you Signalled the world as a Threat you should remember the World can do the same thing back... The world will always be the Majority. Jewish -Hebraic Descendant stand with the Majority... Zionists, Nazists and Fascists as a Cult, a Sect...set themselves apart from Everyone Else in the Wrongest of Ways...

[@rsr789]

@@conniedean3787 You are literally quoting Hamas (i.e. modern Nazi's) numbers... come back to us when you learn how to use critical thinking, reason, and logic.

[@conniedean3787]

@@rsr789 just wondering are you racist against Muslims, I noticed you never said you were sorry for the loss of my child 😥

[@hannekenachbahr2133]

No, they took the spoils home. Read "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe

[@stephensimpson8531]

But don’t read only that book, otherwise your perspective will be reprehensibly jaundiced….

[@emmanuelwood8702]

This is utter stupidity. No one in the world is actively trying murder jewish people . Instead what is happening is that Israel is mass murdering Palestinian people .

[@dogbert52]

What did your cult do on october 7th?

[@OldboyMoy]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@victormeidan1062]

.........................................................from 7th century settler-colonists.

[@christophergeorge38]

No because me as a black man would not! Let! It happen!