Kyler Murray & the 2019 NFL Draft QB Class | PFF

[@rafsimmz]

Kylers height doesn’t really bother me as much as his 1 year of experience . Trubisky is a good example because even though he was good his second year, he’s still making “rookie” mistakes and it’s just because the lack of experience . And it’s scarier because Kyler played in the Big12 so he didn’t need to make a lot of NFL reads, throws, and post snap processing . I believe he can learn those things ,but the wrong team picks him and he can fail MISERABLY .

[@seanrocktaylor8967]

Trubisky is taller lol

[@anthonyarena487]

wouldn't be surprised if he busts not only because of the system he played in but physically. I think he is too small and won't last physically. They try to compare to brees, Wilson, and baker. Those guys are like 5'11-6'0 and around 215 they are much bigger. Baker and brees are thicker than kyler and russel is well built. Forget what he is listed at, Kyler is probably 5'8-5'9 and around 180. I don't think he will hold up to the hits. Those others guys are called short, Kyler is just straight up small.

[@tannergray5402]

@@anthonyarena487 At the rate QBs get hit, he isnt going to be taking hits consistently like WRs do at that size. Just because you are small doesnt correlate to getting hurt more or less

[@krizzlybaer5506]

Finally some constructive criticism thank you I agree partly. He doesnt has to be the elite franchise qb for years, he is for sure not a bust. There is a way to succeed for him, he needs the right team right system

[@12jswilson]

He was making NFL throws on a fairly regular basis to all areas of the field. I also saw a handful of full field reads in his tape, so he can do them. He lingers on his first read a little longer than I'd prefer, but it got much better as the season progressed. Blitz recognition was a problem, but that's always going to be a problem for young NFL QBs. His learning curve will be even steeper and that's a concern. Honestly, your concerns are more the ones I have about Haskins. Haskins had roughly 90% of his completions on slants, drags, swing, and screens. He seemed to struggle greatly on throws that weren't those. He has some full field reads, but most were simple, single defender reads. Along with Haskins' big problems with pressure, zone blitz will probably chew him up. That's not too damning a critique as zone blitz crushes almost all young QBs.

[@laeldestan1536]

I think that the best thing for Murray is to get drafted by a team that can sit him for a year(at least) much like Kansas City did with Mahommes. Maybe the Denver Broncos should be his best landing spot since they have Keenum for another year. Or maybe even the Giants? I'm hoping that Haskins lands in Miami because they need to start over.

[@X7Maverick]

1) Haskins 2) Murray 3) Will Grier 4) Drew Lock 5) Brett Rypien 6) Ryan Finley 7) Daniel Jones

[@MNZGamin]

Why do people refer to Cousins as just an average starting QB? He’s a top 10 QB. There’s guys like Rodgers, Brees, and Brady, then there’s Ryan, Wilson, Rivers, and then Cousins and some others right below that. Dude has the highest (or second brightest) completion % in the NFL since becoming a starter, a top 5 TD:INT ratio and QBR, and has never thrown for less than 4k. He threw for 4k and 30 begins the damn vikings o-line. If that’s an average starting QB to y’all, then that’s incredibelb

[@alexlong5614]

Agreed but they want more wins than stats I'm at redskins fan

[@gaston7414]

Cousins supporters crack me up. He’s the definition of average

[@9oh7Hockey]

Most of his stats come at the end of games when the game is already lost

[@Blaftuned]

Matt Pattsford racks up stack cant win

[@jcoope77]

Should've went MLB...will be a bust in the NFL...

[@dyhrdraider05]

Is there legitimate concern that he doesn't like the team he's drafted by and goes back to baseball?

[@bigtimersr4901]

Yes

[@Snakeye808]

Definitely not a concern at all. Most players couldn't care less who they get drafted by. Obviously if he wanted to play baseball over football, he wouldn't be in the NFL draft. However, there is also virtually zero chance he is top 10. Late 1st would be optimistic, but I see him as more of a mid-2nd round pick.

[@thefinswillwin9938]

DWAYNE HASKINS IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK COMING FROM THE 2019 DRAFT!! .... END OF STORY.

[@krizzlybaer5506]

End of story? Thanks for the scouting bro. The caps really elevate your opinion

[@ryankennedy6883]

Lol your comment will not age well

[@claymac7895]

Ryan Kennedy - No it won’t. That comment is going to age about as well as all the shit talk about Baker Mayfield last year at this time has.

[@kloschuessel773]

Interesting

[@ledevingreen7920]

Haskins will be a bus because is outside of structure play. Meaning like is qbr it's 53 under pressure. The NFL's all about pressuring you. So he's great in the pocket but you don't always get great protection. Bust

[@militiaentityrecords9236]

Kyler Murray will be a mix between Troy Smith & Tyrod Taylor.

[@kloschuessel773]

Lock and jones turned out better than haskins so far

[@iraAlbucher]

Thanks for the video --- Looking forward to the next mock

[@MikeWoot65]

Once again Ryan Finley gets overlooked..

[@thefinswillwin9938]

Michael Wooten, .... THAT IS BECAUSE HE SUCKS. ...

[@mvkenz9000]

Most pro ready in this class

[@12jswilson]

@@mvkenz9000 most pro ready to ride the pine and be a career backup. I watched him and thought a solid "meh."

[@TwinLash]

Link the Dark why do you say everything in all caps

[@mcsuchnsuch]

Kyler will get drafted in the 1st because every year there’s always that team that gets pressured into drafting these questionable QBs. Guys like Lamar Jackson, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow and Ryan Tannehill.

[@Sleepingcoffee979]

Lamar isn't even bad

[@claymac7895]

Murray not going #1 overall would be absolutely crazy. He has Mayfield level passing talent and is a better/faster runner than Lamar Jackson. There has never been another QB like this in the history of the NFL. Every team that passes on him will be forever haunted by what could have been.

[@stingzen82]

What Steve Soco said

[@claymac7895]

Steven Soco - Look at the passing numbers and accuracy. RG3 wasn’t in the same universe as Murray as a thrower.

[@stingzen82]

@@claymac7895 I think they are comparable in terms of stats for the Heisman season. Rg3 was more accurate and better arm. Go back and look Rg3 made more wow throws. Murray is better in the pocket. Even though he's small I think it'll be hard to tackle him. I like him as a prospect better than Haskins. He can change the way the game is played if he reaches his full potential.

[@claymac7895]

stingzen82 - I’ve got to admit, I didn’t realize RG3 was as accurate of a passer as he was in college. Jesus looking at video from 2012 looks like it was shot in the 1960’s, it’s amazing how far camera tech has come. But yeah, I think Murray would be the best QB in this class even if he couldn’t run at all. I don’t think the height will make any difference, it may even help him be more elusive. and frankly it’s kind of shocking so many “experts” still think it will. Russell Wilson is 5’10. The reason there aren’t more short QB’s is because all the short kids were told it’s impossible, play another position. It’s not like there has been tons of short QB’s who just fall of a cliff when they hit a certain level. There just haven’t been many that even tried.

[@chrislair6832]

I would be so happy for 2 o u quarterbacks in a row winning the Heisman and being successful in the NFL. I didn't even know he wasn't playing baseball until yesterday when did all this happen

[@theBLADE101]

Dwayne Haskins is better than Kyler Murray. And should be drafted higher.

[@kloschuessel773]

Better at doings drugs and off the field issues

[@kloschuessel773]

And sucking on the field

[@JLewis95]

Will Grier is underrated. He is the 3rd best qb in the draft in my opinion. Maybe the best Day 2 QB.

[@WelziFC7]

There are no franchise QBs in this years draft

[@jeremyjackson8196]

He'll make a great special teams player and possibly a good WR.

[@retrohero8770]

As long as Kyler isn't "square peg, round holed" by an offensive coordinator that doesn't build an offense around his strengths and try and make him something he's not, (traditional pocket passer) I think Kyler can succeed in the NFL. Get him in a Shanahan type of play-action bootleg offense and he can tear it up. Don't care about his height, the kid can play.

[@jeremyjackson8196]

So take 2 to 3 years to build the entire offense around him and he'll be successful. The NFL doesn't work like that.

[@tobenkirbo2096]

Jeremy Jackson he didn’t say build the team just build around Kyler’s strengths. Like the bootleg play actions so if height even matters to him he can see and use his legs to his advantage as well. And wouldn’t be that hard to add some receiving talent by offseasons end.

[@retrohero8770]

@@tobenkirbo2096 Yeah man, don't listen to him. He clearly doesn't understand the difference between scheme and talent.

[@jeremyjackson8196]

@@retrohero8770 a scheme is trying to convince people into thinking a 5'9" 180lb quarterback is going to survive for more then 2 years running bootlegs in the NFL. Maybe that's a scam and not a scheme?

[@tobenkirbo2096]

Jeremy Jackson personally I think he’s got an alright chance. I think he’s the second QB in the class to me though. Haskins really impressed me in his 1 year at Ohio State. Grier third for me by a bit. And Kyler Murray is used to playing behind a big line at OU. Right team grabs anyone of those guys I think they could turn out nice. Daniels Jones I think at best is a solid back up. Drew Lock is the one I’m most unsure about. Higher potential than Jones though I think.

[@thefinswillwin9938]

.... DWAYNE HASKINS IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK COMING FROM THIS NEXT DRAFT!!! END OF STORY. ....

[@ivankullaya8894]

Tf are you smoking? Ever heard of Jake Fromm?

[@retrohero8770]

@@ivankullaya8894 Fromm's not in this draft class...

[@ivankullaya8894]

@@retrohero8770 I thought he was talking about Dwayne Haskins would be the best QB in the *next years draft*

[@retrohero8770]

@@ivankullaya8894 Gotcha. Yeah, his comment is worded awkwardly.

[@kloschuessel773]

Interesting

[@brandonweaver8176]

2020 (Tua) & 2021 (Trevor Lawrence) will have a much better QB class. Dwayne Haskins has the best chance of this crop to have a successful NFL career.

[@kloschuessel773]

Tua looks shit, haskins utter trash, murray top ten already and herbert the best from 2020 followed by burrow, whos class it was.

[@vijayswearingenutube]

A QB draft class filled with quality career NFL backups! Woo hoo! There's not a franchise guy in the bunch.

[@vijayswearingenutube]

@CaptainPullNoHoes I'm guessing his hearts not 100% into football. He just looks like a rock solid 2nd baseman prospect to me. He's too short and too thin for the NFL but you never know, it could work.

[@Sleepingcoffee979]

O stfu

[@richardbailey9932]

what the hell is that dude on the left talking about? Haskins on Cousins level? wtf Haskins is a star flat out future top 5 QB in the league

[@12jswilson]

I'll bet otherwise. I see a ton of Alex Smith/ Derek Carr in him. Maybe a capable QB, but unlikely to be a consistently top tier player. He's too cautious and struggles way too much with pressure.

[@treproduction7936]

Am i the only one who believe that once he get drafted and get that money he going back to baseball

[@krizzlybaer5506]

You know what a contract is?

[@neonwhitea.1548]

Awhile ago, I came up with the strategy, to draft a qb in the first round, give him 4 years to prove himself and if he’s not a top 5 guy, at the end of his contract you trade him away and draft a new guy and try again, meanwhile all the money you save goes into getting good pieces around you new qb rinse and repeat , hopefully eventually you find the next Rodgers/ Brady/ manning and then you pay the guy and sit back and watch the success

[@neonwhitea.1548]

Steven Soco explain that logic

[@neonwhitea.1548]

Steven Soco but how many teams who stick it out with an average qb more than 4 years are ever good? If you draft Andy dalton and in 4 years he plays like Andy dalton you cut or trade him and try again. Get it?

[@AlphaDwg]

Y’all really sleeping on Hawkins 😂

[@kloschuessel773]

Haskins?

[@Seddysaid]

He already said he's 100% committed to football

[@kristian9014]

Bust written all of over him

[@krizzlybaer5506]

Wow! We've got a true talent evaluation expert over here. Don't make yourself look ridiculous, what are you even doing on this video commenting if you dont even have any points or clue..

[@JayDay3K]

Do you ever have any positive opinions?

[@rudystraight9558]

k p you’re right

[@MNZGamin]

krizzly baer he’s not wrong

[@anthonyarena487]

I wouldn't be surprised if is. I think he is too small and won't last physically. They try to compare to brees, Wilson, and baker. Those guys are like 5'11-6'0 and around 215 they are much bigger. Baker and brees are thicker than kyler and russel is jacked. Forget what he is listed at, Kyler is probably 5'8-5'9 and around 180. I don't think he will hold up to the hits.