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[@thedavidpakmanshow]

Demand the Supreme Court say NO to full immunity for Trump: atadvocacy.com/no-immunity-trump-5724?ref=dp

[@danielmiller7346]

QUESTION FOR FOX GUY: Because between David, the guy from Fox, and ALL your viewers, we must know MILLIONS of dementia patients! If such a miracle lucent-for-an-hour drug existed, then why is NOBODY ELSE using it in order to have a much desired hour with our effected loved ones?

[@ThomasNiemann-qe5fo]

Watching the debate for the first time and I'm only a third of the way through. Will is trying to play gotcha by claiming said/imagined that he was vice president during the pandemic. He was vice president during the swine flu pandemic. Is that perhaps what Biden was referring to?

[@wes53m]

Shouldn't be up for debate, best way for SCOTUS to protect Trump from Bidens' possible blood thirsty plots. Protect Trump, I guess? lol -- Terrible statement. I'm sorry, I mean no harm. You had a really good show. Although they agreed sometimes, you spared me from future Will Cain show. That religious authoritarianism for our country just really puts me off. Thanks for the chance to hear him express that. Great work David.

[@percyjunor5099]

17:20 17:23 I y​@@wes53m

[@abbienormull]

I did this, and I hope many others do as well. Thank you!

[@gtnelson2004]

Will Cain says that Biden is 180 degress different than years ago, but overlooks Trumps "transformations"

[@jayess8714]

Very good point!

[@renaissanceman9168]

No, he doesn’t. He acknowledged that Trump has changed his position on issues but said “So what?” Did you not watch the entire video, were you not paying attention or do you just have poor comprehension skills?

[@dlbedette1234]

Who isn't different than years ago? I've aged and matured through life experience. I've educated myself. Wish more people would.

[@gulfmarine8857]

@@renaissanceman9168 "So what " IS overlooking tfgs transformation

[@renaissanceman9168]

@@gulfmarine8857 Go watch the video again. Cain is not faulting Biden, Trump or any other politician for changing their position over the years and trying to appeal to voters. He’s saying “so what” if they’ve changed their position. It’s David who’s the one giving Biden a pass for changing his opinion, while accusing Trump of demagoguery. The Left cries about “muh democracy”, but what’s more democratic than Trump, who according to David is pro-choice, making a promise to pro-life voters to overturn Roe V. Wade… and ACTUALLY delivering on it? Isn’t that the very definition of Democracy? Making the 51 percent happy at the expense of the 49 percent? Isn’t that why Democrats are undemocratically and unceremoniously importing future voters from the third world and giving them food and housing - to tip the scale in their favor?

[@marinachurch5102]

Thank you David Pakman for being a responsible , clear-headed intelligent voice!

[@NomadSoul76]

I can't get over the part where he acts like he's interested in the names of the mental health professionals who have said that Trump show signs of a serious decline but as soon as he's offered them he doesn't care and dismisses the opinions of all intellectuals as being automatically wrong. That's a pretty good example of arguing in bad faith.

[@user-yf4fi6mf9u]

I would agree. Furthermore, if an individual refers to the ‘establishment’ with obvious disdain, though I admit it is a pejorative term these days, then the suggestion that the individual is open to references on a medical topic is fallacious. He asks for references then only to respond with a ‘I couldn’t care less…it’s an establishment’ attitude. Cain demeans the notion of being too wedded to establishments. I understand being cautious and inquisitive about medical professionals and policies but to suggest the it is an ‘establishment’ that should not be trusted is absolutely irresponsible. The notion of a ‘villainous’ entity has its roots in an administration the was wholly unprepared and unqualified to handle a medical crisis. They tried to lie and deny their way through it and then blame career medical professionals for basically using crayons and talking over their heads. I wonder if Mr Cain felt otherwise. He suggests that relying on establishments is antithetical to the this great country while, at the same time, following a populist leader under felony indictments is being more ‘in touch’ with the voters. Denialism if not cultism. List of vilified establishments under DJT: DOJ/FBI/CIA DOD NIH IRS Pretty much every Sec of State in every state that didn’t vote for him. Please help me understand what other candidate has done this and has been taken seriously. This wasn’t a policy discussion but I thought it ridiculous that Mr Crain would endorse (justify) personal behavior as a means to justify the ends, not to mention the ‘whataboutism’ overtones.

[@user-yf4fi6mf9u]

I would agree. Furthermore, if and individual refers to the ‘establishment’ with obvious disdain, though I admit it is a pejorative term these days, then the suggestion that the individual is open to references on a medical topic is fallacious. He asks for references then label only responds with a ‘I couldn’t care less…it’s an establishment’ attitude. Cain demeans the notion of being too wedded to establishments. I understand being cautious and inquisitive about medical professionals and policies but to suggest the it is an ‘establishment’ that should not be trusted is absolutely irresponsible. The notion of a ‘villainous’ entity has its roots in an administration the was wholly unprepared and unqualified to handle a medical crisis. They tried to lie and deny their way through it and then blame career medical professionals for basically using crayons and talking over their heads. I wonder if Mr Cain felt otherwise. He suggests that relying on establishments is antithetical to the this great country while, at the same time, following a populist leader under felony indictments is being more ‘in touch’ with the voters. Denialism if not cultism. List of vilified establishments under DJT: DOJ/FBI/CIA DOD NIH IRS Pretty much every Sec of State in every state that didn’t vote for him. This wasn’t a policy discussion but I thought it ridiculous that Mr Crain would endorse (justify) personal behavior as a means to justify the ends, not to mention the ‘whataboutism’ overtones.

[@FionaKelleghan111]

@@user-yf4fi6mf9u What a fantastic post, thank you!

[@c.rivers5129]

I'm amazed at anyone who defends a Pathological Liar, Racist, Insurrectionist, Draft Dodger, Civil Liable Rapist, 34-Count Convicted Felon, 40 more Charges, Anti -American, Business Fraudster, 6-Time Filed Bankruptcy, Sued for Housing Discrimination & Charity Fraud, Fake Trump University, Cheated Contractors, Stolen Classified Documents, Misappropriation of Donated Funds, Federally Indicted 91 Times, Loves Uneducated, Calls his Supporters Basement Dwellers, 2016 Broken Campaign Promises, Left $7.8 Trillion National Debt, Unemployment Highest 14.9% Rate, Non-Christian, 2-Time Impeached, Call for Constitution to be Suspended, Overturn Roe v Wade, Caged Children, Mishandled COVID w/Lies, Fake Elector Scheme, Central Park Five, Desires Daughter and Project 2025!

[@John-ht3tc]

This aged well for Pakman. LOL.

[@777Awsomeness]

was thinking the same thing

[@joeldeleon6107]

Are you being sarcastic? Biden is out because of the Biden trump debate. Will Cain was right about cognitive decline.

[@big-smoke-rc]

@@joeldeleon6107Parkman acknowledged Bidens decline. Everyone did. Now the oldest person ever to run is Trump. And he's completely senile.

[@onichan924]

@@joeldeleon6107are you still denying it????

[@Helmutandmoshe]

When I was in college, my physics, math and EE colleagues HATED pricks like Pakman. Insufferable arrogant idiots who pontificated incessantly and thought their freshman "critical thinking" class made them a thinker. Not only did they not understand how the world worked, they had such a small pool of genuine analytical talent that they could not self-correct. The smug ignorant arrogance does indeed last a lifetime. That's why he's making a living doing partisan commentary. Useless.

[@IntelligentAj1]

My man said "you're using specifics" and made it sound like a negative😂

[@gloriouslumi]

Specifics don't sell narratives.

[@irishva2314]

🎯

[@DRY-C0WB0Y]

I loved David’s big smile and nod *Yes I am!* reaction to that statement.

[@seanp7dc]

That moment was classic!

[@AB-nk5wv]

Every time David cites something, Will Cain says “no” “I haven’t seen it” “the professionals are wrong”

[@robertr798]

Getting awfully bored of people who defend Trump, and the right in general, lecturing others on "morals". Save it.

[@rikachiu]

They just need a power hungry puppet to push thru their bat shit crazy agenda. That's all it really is.

[@Sadbuttrue-ThatSwedishGirl]

Me too!! I just say “Go to sleep “ to them nowadays 😅

[@45HatesOurVets]

I was thinking the same. They're the ones that are always judging someone and meanwhile their "moral compass" is all out of whack. You will never hear them call him out on it. I guess they are totally fine with his arrogance and ignorance.

[@jays1079]

"you're using specifics" 😂 Stop making sense David! Stop stating facts! 😂

[@MPR2]

💯

[@krisap1635]

I am an average independent voter and I do not have any concerns about Joe Bidens health other than physically slowing down. I have 1 million concerns about Trumps mental,moral,and physical decline.

[@Baddestchik911]

But Joe Biden walks and rides his bike daily lol 😂 so he is in better health than Trump even though he is four years older and an octoganerian

[@MrDoctorproctor]

That’s an interesting point of view. Personally I think Biden’s decline I actually sad now. How a commander and chief is perceived is extremely important and plays a huge role in how people vote. Do I think Trump is vile. Yes I do and I don’t want him as our President. Which is exactly the reason why it would be braver to demand change and get a new option. Preferably someone who knows whether they have had their dinner or not. If this guy was straight he’d admit it’s a colossal issue and stop trying to play the “Trumps even worse.” Game. California is not in good shape but Newsom would shred Trump. What we have now is the grandad at the diner table that gets special dispensation because he’s had two strokes. None of the above

[@andysmith1996]

@@MrDoctorproctor For better or worse, though, there are only two choices in this election: Biden or Trump. So, pointing out that Trump's mental faculties are worse than Biden's is a legitimate observation. That said, I do think the left (not just in the US) can feel obligated to give their long-term politicians a go at the top job just because they've been there forever, instead of going for someone younger and more charismatic.

[@MrDoctorproctor]

@@andysmith1996 It’s for worse and if Biden had half the dignity a true leader should possess he would step aside

[@Zheshi14]

You don’t care that Biden is a serial liar?

[@BenjaminJones-y4h]

He clearly showed he is unable to argue in good faith. He totally failed on that point.

[@SmartRob]

As an independent voter- I’m voting for Joe Biden. I’ve view him as a man who is aging, however, he displays integrity, wisdom and surrounds himself with competent staff! I’m voting for democracy and a future for our country. Why don’t we hold reverence for our elders in this country? Thanks David! Interesting conversation.

[@karenwhaley8635]

💯 agree!! Other countries treat their elderly population so much better than the richest country in the world!! Sadly right now the elderly in this society were many of the most moral, ethical, hardest working, patriotic, democracy loving this nation has ever known!! Sadly here corporate America only serves the youth.When I was young we always respected our elders. Vote 💙🇺🇲💙 America

[@siswohlslagel8919]

Blue 💙💙💙💙

[@DJDocSurge]

Beautifully said

[@tytechguy]

Well put. I feel the same way. Biden may have his shortcomings but he is a decent guy that actually cares about others and their well-being instead of just himself. Biden may not be the perfect president but he has done a stellar job with what he's had and he's did it with dignity and respect for others and it's been almost 4 years of normalcy and no scandals aside from a cult of personality we used to call the republican party.

[@sinapper1]

Thank you SmartRob.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

He’s doing the Tucker Carlson thing. “I’m not saying that, I’m just asking questions that other people are asking.”

[@xiaoka]

and if you can't disprove this thing that i'm not defending, it therefore must be true.

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@tarbosh917]

Will is acting in such bad faith it's obnoxious. He's playing hard on the 'just asking questions' vibe that Tucker Carlson is famous for. "Don't you think Biden must be on something?" into "Well the burden on proof is on you, David, to eliminate 100% of all drugs". You have more patience than I do.

[@everythingends555]

Lol it's very possible Biden took a nap and was well rested then drank some caffeine to be ready for a planned important state of the union speech as opposed to being exhausted and doing normal questions with reporters. I actually am more tired in the morning and around 2pm then I am at night time and if I have something important I need to be awake and alert like. Meeting I will drink caffeine and be prepared for it

[@everythingends555]

@sandrastone4997 I truly believe it's terrible logical and critical thinking skills. The fact that they have flawed skills/wqys of thinking is what leaves them open to fall for Tucker Carlson like arguments. Logic class should be taught in all high-school not just a college level class. So many people don't understand validity and soundness when it comes to deductive arguments.

[@machiajenni]

@@everythingends555 Yes, exactly. Me too.

[@nanoflower1]

@@everythingends555 The problem is that I don't believe Will falls into that group of people with flawed skills or lack of logic. He knows very well what he is doing, much like Tucker Carlson, and is using his own skills and logic to defend his chosen position. Even if it isn't a good faith argument.

[@everythingends555]

@@nanoflower1 agreed

[@annejentoft5305]

There is NO drug in the world that would make a demented person sound less demented. That is a fact.

[@danman1789]

Correct. and it's hilarious that Will doesn't understand that if you're gonna make a claim, YOU have to back it up. Otherwise just drop the claim

[@jamesritchie992]

THAT WE NO OF

[@Peter-up9yw]

@@jamesritchie992 "..... know of ....."

[@jamesritchie992]

@Peter-up9yw says the guy who's username has all types of grammar errors 🙄 smh

[@louiedawg5]

Joe Biden here

[@Notfiveo0]

Trump used to be a Democrat, he changed only because he knew he could hoodwink the party of stupid.

[@wgooetrik]

Grifters gotta grift.

[@carolcarson7749]

He has changed party's 5 times.

[@MPR2]

💯💯💯

[@GaryRine]

@@carolcarson7749 LOL...LOL.. is this a defense of... or an indictment of.... the idiotic, evangelical, poorly educated, low IQ MAGAt base???? asking for a friend...LOL

[@natepatrick5994]

He ran on the gop ticket bc the dnc primaries are rigged and controlled. All came out in the leaked emails and why the dnc chair resigned in 2016. Used to have unpledged superdelegates up until that point. Still gotta be a dem establishment insider to run in that party

[@MicheleHell]

This is a great display of Pakman’s ability to debate in a sane, intelligent way. He did an excellent job of staying on message and I am thankful for his appearance on the alternative facts network.

[@RatedArggg]

When did the term "conservative" come to mean "making excuses for Trump no matter what crazy thing he does?"

[@pams6763]

Exactly! They have turned their back on everything they've claimed to believe in before.

[@dilsadmeraler]

He openly says that he doesn’t want to go back to normalcy and doesn’t see what trump is No way to get rid of them until they lose congress and presidency That’s the only way out I can see

[@aandyherr817]

@ktbn22when did Biden send a mob to riot and murder in the Capitol? When did Biden rape 8 kids and admit himself on public TV he raped a women? When did Biden get convicted of rape in a court? When did Biden literally touch a 16 year old sexually on the vagina and say “ I like em young “ about Jeffery epstine? Everything trump did… so there’s that disgusting fact

[@RockChick63174]

No, sit down and let the critical thinkers speak. ​@ktbn22

[@siobhan4243]

​​@ktbn22 Those who support Biden are not cultists. Those who support trump seem to be in a cult. The regalia, extreme behavior, rabid fealty, circus atmosphere, acceptance of bad behavior, etc. All reek of religious cultism.

[@stevedunlap2430]

Great work David! Thank you for always defending the truth.

[@scottthompson9388]

😂😂😂

[@KDProudAmerican]

What truth? For years this retard Pussman told all of the user idiots that Biden was as sharp as a tack, while also saying that Trump was losing his marbles. And all y'all useful idiots ate it up.

[@havocdogg]

Imagine thinking your winning a debate when your opening line for a rebuttal is " Once again David you are using specifics"

[@kc8901-u6n]

Haha, I thought the same thing. Specifics are scary to them, that's why they only speak in hypotheticals.

[@ianharrison3464]

Exactly! They always revert to hypotheticals

[@AbsalonWhiteJr.]

That caught me off guard as well. How can you be mad at someone giving you specifics as opposed to someone giving you ass pulls?

[@danielaustin2766]

Like their famous line "what, specifically, is a woman?" Bro, it's anything and nothing at the same time. It's the sun, the moon, and neither. Feminism is defending men now. There are no women. Like, right?

[@JohnHondo11997]

I loved David’s response to that.

[@JohnHilaryMartin]

David Pakman won that debate by a country mile.

[@HoofHearted6]

Bingo!!!

[@antimediaman9354]

Davids saying Trump’s only in it for himself? Newsflash, David: politicians are out for themselves. Biden isn’t some altruistic saint doing student loan forgiveness out of the goodness of his heart. He’s buying votes, plain and simple. The only difference is Trump doesn’t pretend otherwise. At least he’s upfront about it. Biden, on the other hand, has flip-flopped more times than a fish out of water.

[@antimediaman9354]

He wants to say Trump’s got cognitive issues because he paused for 35 seconds? Come on, man. If we started diagnosing every politician based on awkward silences, half of Congress would be in a home by now

[@sieraclayton1503]

@@antimediaman9354 ?! David Pakman, and the entire planet, also noted that Trump confused Nicky Haley with Nancy Pelosi multiple times in one speech. Trump erroneously stated multiple times that he alleged "beat" President Obama in an election - something obviously that Never happened nor ever Would. And on and on. Trump's the scarier one where mental decline is concerned.

[@anybodycanart]

It was an unfair debate. 😁

[@tonydorsett33]

This was a MASTERCLASS in how to debate the Trump cult. Pakman refuted every tactic and showed that when you bring in SPECIFICS, they have no answer.

[@auntiewewe972]

Sorry Will. We can debate Left vs Right politics all day. But stop the gas lighting . Facts 1. Trump was one of the most inefficient, ineffective presidents in history. Added the most debt to the deficit and is the only president in history to leave office with less jobs then when he came in 2 He has zero respect , from our allies and other world leaders not authoritarian 3. He is ignorant of everything from foreign policy, to the constitution, the laws, and ways our country work. 4. Like every other Republican in the last 60 yrs, he came into office riding high on the previous administration economy, and left with it in total collapse or recession. 5. Oh and most important. . . He's an insurrectionist, traitor, criminal who sold our the US to line his pockets. He's a rapist and sexual offender. I don't care if Trump could cure cancer. He's an , evil, vile, disgusting, seditious a**wipe His policies don't matter. Its not even political. If you support Trump and this party you are a pathetic turd

[@Labearski44]

Lol keep telling your self that, it'll save you the embarrassment of admitting you were hood winked.

[@furusaogoge]

I am literally scared of Pakman now! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 13:19 was what did it.

[@beanabovethefrank1499]

Worse than that, they whine about it. Like you're being mean to them. These are the same people who argue that there are both sides, and have no side to support. And they came up with the term "snowflake." Ironic.

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@curtbressler3127]

I almost did a standing ovation when David said, "You want to talk about Adderall and Provigil!? Okay, let's talk about Adderall and Provigil!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chrisii1867]

weak minded and dumby head david

[@frunyan1265]

Accusation of drug use without evidence is a dick move. Typical with these people.

[@irwinshung809]

It goes beyond that. Dude accused Biden of specific drugs, then asserted that the burden of proof was on David to prove there were no drugs. Stupid.

[@robtay1963]

I think it is getting a good nap and drinking a strong cup of coffee. But beyond that anyone who knows drug users knows there is no drug that will give someone advanced cognitive abilities. Legal "Drugs" keeping one alert are legal, caffeine, ginseng and others are not technically drugs on any realistic scale, and trump obviously needed to drink more coffee before court each day.

[@machiajenni]

I'm not Joe Biden's age, but I know if I had to give an important speech, I'd just naturally get all hyped up beforehand. Then a Red Bull or a cup of strong coffee would do the trick to get me even more energized.

[@bonniejosavland3227]

@@robtay1963well we’ve seen white chunks fly out of -45 nose 👃 & Drs do not provide snorting meds to patients. We know that -45 has a Adderall addiction!

[@nanoflower1]

My immediate thought was we could suggest that Will Caine is going out and raping people at night. I have no evidence of it but I also have no proof that he isn't doing it. It's the sort of accusation that's designed to damn the accused no matter what they say or do. It is very much a dick move, especially when David brought up why it shouldn't be done and countered with evidence as to why it shouldn't apply to Biden and yet Will stuck to the accusation because there's no 100% proof Biden isn't doing it.

[@xavirik4828]

Couldn't think of anything more pointless than speaking to Will Cain about politics. He's a disingenuous hack

[@Dragonslairminis]

He came across as one as well. Except all his supporters think David was mean to him, not letting him talk and making stuff up.

[@blaccpanther8715]

Y’all have very high standards. I thought Cain conducted himself very well

[@littlejerryseinfeld4168]

Go back to his ESPN days, he made skip bay less seem way less worse than he usually is

[@littlejerryseinfeld4168]

@@blaccpanther8715he “conducted” himself fine, he spoke clearly - but hes being disingenuous and making wild assertions like “trumps going 60 in a 55 but Bidens driving into a ditch” - and then when in good faith David tried to get into specifics based on experts who have appeared and spoken very clearly on his show to David (and many others) , all the sudden that was out of bounds for Will Cain. He doesn’t come across as a bongino or a kilmeade or a Maria bartiromo , but that’s intentional. No one is saying will Cain is a total moron, he’s obviously educated, and has the capacity to talk about these things and come across as normal. The problem with his style is that he will not concede any points whatsoever , and basically turns David’s arguments into the whataboutism that fox has perfected

[@wddilly8488]

Yup. This.

[@Siris35]

Pakman show is having an impact. Keep up the great work.

[@Ghee_Buttersnaps]

_IMPACTMAN!_ 💪💪💪

[@FionaKelleghan111]

@@Ghee_Buttersnaps Lovely!!

[@jazallen-gm9ot]

Will Cain thought he was a mental match for David Pakman . 😂

[@finkiusmaximus]

I don't think he did a particularly bad job. I think he's a reasonably intelligent guy, and he was far more respectful to Pakman than I probably would have expected. But he wasn't ever about to "win" this conversation.

[@Jac407-ld5tf]

Pakman is in a total different league!!!

[@robertlanglois7860]

He makes an accusation and then puts the burden of proof on the accused 😐

[@mba321]

Typical fascist MO

[@nudgie9]

Yep! Absolute projection. Guilty from accusation.

[@madhippy3]

And he is supposed to have a degree in law???? He knows where the burden of proof is in our culture. He is just ignoring it.

[@lyfsabych]

Being an attorney doesn't make you intelligent, or ethical.

[@davidwrong3628]

I thought you were innocent until proven guilty. Cain is speaking the opposite, which is what is wrong with the Republicans today.

[@EcoCentrist]

Will Cain gives me used car salesmen vibes

[@user-cp9lz9pt8b]

I get power bottom vibes from Will but you are also correct, he does give off used car salesman vibes

[@Tech4Lyfe]

He gave me Tucker b4 Tucker became "the Tucker" vibes. If u follow me. 😆

[@Israel-nb7ip]

Ambulance chaser lawyer is more accurate IMO.

[@scottkemmerer9294]

You are right. I think he sold me a car years ago?????

[@lindaquap4730]

I don’t like this Will Cain. He’s rude toward David Pakman.

[@wileyput]

Great job David. It's really difficult to debate those who intentionally suspend logic, common sense, and rational thinking. He's obviously acting in bad faith. You did an amazing job.

[@Keepitkind7]

Apparently you missed that Will respects Pakman

[@deborahpitcher7723]

And I can hardly wait for Trump to take the stand in all the cases against him. I think that would be great under oath.

[@seanp7dc]

David: You are AMAZING. Triple the IQ of this guy (who is he?), patient, factual, and incredibly intellectual (and funny!) We love you! Keep up the good fight.

[@randilowery9669]

💯% agree!!! 👏👍

[@melanieestes8428]

Will is stuck on stupid 😂

[@michaelnieves9688]

David, your preparation for the debate was outstanding, and you clearly emerged as the argument winner.

[@diegopina8782]

Lmaooo bro so what? Republicans literally brag that Trump is not a politician, yet you give him a pass for moving like a politician? Please.

[@checksandbalances6714]

What Trump is, is a liar and he lies to help himself or get vengeance - who wants such a person with that much power ?!

[@JOwinsallday]

GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER… not a politician… nice argument 😮😅 next time you need surgery go out and find the BEST used car salesmen and tell me how that goes. Or better yet, have your family tell me because you probably won’t survive

[@easymoneysniper9013]

​@@JOwinsalldaywhat?

[@Adeus1]

This is true. A leftist has always been a beacon of peace and truth. A critic of authority. This is why i became a leftist. 'authority, unless justified, is inherently illegitimate and that the burden of proof is on those in authority." - Chomsky

[@carmelaguanciale6620]

Plus, is trump going to take a drug test? Cause a lot of us want trump to take one too.

[@LorraineHammond-b8u]

YES !

[@Sate12]

Trump only wants Biden to take the test. Trump and his cult followers think it's ludicrous to suggest Von Shitzinpants even consider taking a drug test

[@CarolEdmonds-pk7hr]

carmelaguanciale6620,if tRump is insisting that Biden be drug-tested before the debates, then he’d BEST submit to a drug screening!!!

[@bonniejosavland3227]

First, Rumpy needs to take drug tests first!😮😂

[@WackadoodleMalarkey]

Here's aspirin, ok Here's nicotine, ok Here's alcohol, ok Here's Ozempic,ok Here's...

[@benjaminhorwitz593]

“I’m not saying he’s on drugs. I’m just saying that he’s on drugs.” They can’t even stand by their points they’re trying to make. I’s pathetic. Total chickenshit.

[@tommydevine9993]

"I'm not saying he's on drugs, but a lot of people think that he probably is, and I can't refute it. Could be accurate..." That's some lame-ass Tucker Carlson "just asking questions" bullshit...

[@siswohlslagel8919]

🙄

[@seanp7dc]

David: Which drugs? Clown: I didn't say he was on drugs! David: Your network does. Clown: The burden that he ISN'T is on you! David: WHAT?!?!?! 🤣

[@jamesh.850]

I really want to know what drug can temporarily reverse dementia. How have I not heard of this incredible medical breakthrough? /s Seriously, wish Pakman was more aggressive on this. "You're telling me there's a drug on the market that reverses dementia? Must be a billion dollar drug, what's its name?"

[@lyfsabych]

​@@seanp7dcTHAT WAS WILD! 😂 💀

[@SpencerfromEarth]

"Some people say Biden is on drugs" "Thats absurd" "Prove that he isnt!" "Well no you have to prove he is" "Thats moving the burden of proof!!"

[@davidgray867]

That one plus the “he actual is on trial, he’s the key witness” got me

[@thatguyineverycommentssection]

LOL yes! What a sad example of The University of Texas School of Law

[@werdofgod]

I was wondering if anyone in the comments caught this as well, and I'm concerned that this is the new form of 'argument' that is coming in the near future (or perhaps is already more prevalent). It's a really gross way to argue in bad faith.

[@patsox2004]

​@@werdofgodyea and it frustrated me that David didn't turn it back on him with trump.

[@Ixnatifual]

@@werdofgod I watch a lot of religious debates and it's pretty much standard for theists debaters to try to shift the burden of proof. It's quite revealing, even if tiresome.

[@tamaraspringer2511]

A debate is VERY different than a speech. Debating an opponent that lies every time he speaks is hard to respond to in such a short time period as a minute or two. I think Biden was rattled at the sheer volume of inaccuracies and had difficulty recalling all the right statistics to rebut Trump.

[@matthewcoyle3315]

Dismissing medical professionals. Does he prefer that the guy working in the gas station carry out his next surgery?

[@ezpzlemonsqueezy90]

If there's a medical professional who politically aligns with him you better believe he'd haul him on the show to share his opinion.

[@laurendaryani4893]

Or Tinfoil Frank at the local watering hole.

[@qbclay2]

duh, all them patriots know how to doctor better than doctors know how to law better than lawyers teach better than teachers etc

[@machiajenni]

Yeah, or a Trump-endorsed quack like Ronnie Jackson or the guy who wrote his bone spurs letter.

[@TaborTalk]

Exactly

[@DanCrawl]

David is honest and prepared. Will is dishonest and unprepared. Well done David!

[@chenzen1578]

David also leads the conversation masterly

[@HH-jg4ju]

Will please shut up your so cringing

[@MadKingLordeus]

I believe Will and his listeners are stupid enough to believe he is being honest and prepared. Crazy to think that anyone thinks this conversation went well for Will Cain.

[@ianharrison3464]

He took over the show. Cain was so outta gas by the Final 10 mins.

[@dylanmeyer6614]

OMG David. You destroyed him! He was squirming so hard when you challenged him on Biden mental decline and alleged drug use.

[@lyfsabych]

It was like watching a philosophy professor debate a 6th grader.

[@JMBvideo]

I guess the jury saw it differently than Will Cain

[@DJchestr]

"So what?" As an answer to Trump only looking out for himself is deeply concerning and completely nullifies all of him appeals against authority.

[@buddyflood6761]

He thinks trump is just out for himself to get votes then will be for the people,which it's easy to see trumps last concern is for the people except for their vote

[@beanabovethefrank1499]

He's not a war hawk...my ass. Just because shit didn't go down on his term doesn't mean he's opposed to it. He's the guy who wanted to compare dicks with Kim Jong Un for no apparent reason. And getting on your knees to Putin is not how one goes around claiming to not have gone into any wars. The Earth hasn't been hit by an asteroid since Biden was elected. Way to go, Biden!

[@wine-living]

This guy is such a bad-faith broker. He claims to be here in good faith, but he starts all of his debate points off on a false premise and then precedes to argue as if it's truth. It's the Donald Trump and FOX News playbook; start with a lie, and then back into it.

[@EcoCentrist]

bad-faith broker, gonna write that one down mhmm

[@dylansparrow6169]

I am beyond sick of these folks. I don't see the value in talking to them anymore. Every moment for them is just an opportunity to propagandize for their white power overlord.

[@godislove544]

He avoids the real topic of the current trial is election manipulation, tRump knew that another sex scandal story would end his chances, the public had a right to know, but he paid money to keep it from us.

[@visnuexe]

For the faithful that their Christian belief is the under pinning of the moral constraints of the country had better remember founding fathers built into the Constitutjon a separation of church from State knowing full well no one religious sect should dominate law and governance. That by doing so divides the country, and will fail the majority. It also removes freedom of religion.

[@paulchavez3039]

Yah they constantly beg the question and use it as a bunker. It's infuriating cuz it's like digging out a tick you found too late. Best move they have and it's super effective but hopefully not for long.

[@WunHungLo99]

Trump can't put together a single incoherent sentence of any depth and meaning. He can only repeat the same BS he said 1000 times b4.

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@pre4122]

Coherent. I think you meant to say Trump can't put together a single coherent sentence. He can speak incoherent sentences like it's his native tongue.

[@antimediaman9354]

@@pre4122 Well if not than he's too stupid and weak to take overr the country and become dictator than right? You DEMS have to pick a position and stay on it without flip flopping.

[@Chunlintan-yl7tu]

And his only big word is tremendous. Everything is tremendous. So pathetic.

[@Dwightaroundyolips]

You mean Coherent lol. Insert foot in mouth little one

[@trebm3]

Will Cain was an idiot on ESPN and was embarrassed almost daily. He got worse on Fox and continues to be an absolute clown.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

Max Kellerman routinely ran circles around him. He's simply a bad joke of a supposedly intelligent person.

[@imjustmeTBD]

Funny thing about idiots like Will Cain, they actually don't stop being idiots just because you have them moved to a different channel, project, or something.

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@JonStark117]

*God these Fox News personalities are absolutely pathetic.*

[@user-cp9lz9pt8b]

Democrats evolve with the country, Republicans stay stuck in the 1950's. Not the same reason why Biden has shifted with the country and Trump has shifted on whatever is best for Trump. I would say Pakman destroyed Cain but Cain destroyed himself.

[@birdiegirl1622]

He’s right in this case, Pakman is pushing a false equivalency narrative, showing Trump’s decline while ignoring Biden’s, thats pathetic

[@Chereese0808]

Excuses for trump always. FOX is propaganda channel and there should be a warning / disclaimer on the screen. Most believe what's said on FOX is true when most all of it are lies. They won't like it the day trump cancels them in the blink of an eye. He will do if he were to win. Fortunately he won't win. Cognitively he's unfit. It can't be more obvious. Over 300 doctors have spoken out about what they've witnessed.

[@PaperRaines]

Why be any different? When the left leaning side of the media ecosystem is filled with dorks like David who can't wait to come in their shows and fanboy all over them while getting lied to for an hour?

[@vickilawrence7207]

Jonstark, you’re absolutely spot on! That’s what is so scary about

[@1107FlexBlvd]

Bernie Sanders is 82 and would talk circles around ANYONE in U.S. politics.

[@EasyWinking]

id vote for bernie at 100 because his policies simply are the best things for the USA

[@jaefrmbk2k]

💯

[@credman]

#Bernie2028

[@AustinPowerz817]

Facts

[@gustavolasanta1482]

Nothing but facts

[@jtg2323]

34 counts - GUILTY. Felon 45 is a convict.

[@Zod741]

You like Pac-Man sound like a CNN commentator

[@christinajohnson2105]

Trump is a true OG!

[@alexasilvestri1380]

@@Zod741 doesn't matter what you say, Trump is still a convicted felon

[@Peter-up9yw]

@@christinajohnson2105 What does OG mean? OG, short for “original gangster” or “original gangsta,” is a slang term for someone who's incredibly exceptional, authentic, or “old-school.” OG was originally used in gang culture, but it is now used as a general term to praise someone who is an expert at something.

[@louiedawg5]

I’m voting for the convict.

[@serchme54]

It’s called fascist ideology Will. Our parents and Grandparents fought to defeat people like Trump. Um unions are not for Trump.

[@deborahdunn7844]

Bingo.

[@serchme54]

@ktbn22 That was only one Union but good try.

[@UlassG]

​@ktbn22Under Trump, max wage for working class was around 30 to 40k max. You were all poor dude. He slashed wages all over the board by around 30 percent. Not to mention, he killed thousands of Americans by a virus he unleashed, he locked you all to your houses for 1 year straight, and you all hoarded toilet papers. Not to mention daily riots that he cannot do anything about since he is not competent. Trumps is evil, and he is not American. He only praises foreign autocrats, not Americans. How anyone, who supports Trump, claim they are patriots is beyond me!

[@TheCRBTree]

THIS!

[@TheCRBTree]

Workers winning the ability to collective bargain is not a 'disaster'. Over the last decades union membership has plummeted while wealth inequality has skyrocketed, it's not a coincidence. And Trump literally paid SCABS to show up for him at that 'union rally'. It's been proven. The UGA has ENDORSED Biden and fpotus' only legislative achievement was a huge tax break for the wealthy. Open your damn eyes.

[@gordonhall9943]

Sir, with tears in my eyes, please do more of these. Mr. Cain is no match in terms of fact and intellect.

[@bhuevo6960]

I love the aggressive nature David pushes‼️ Make the right play defense more often

[@georgrust1462]

As a European, I am Swiss, I was very pleased to see that there are still people in the US who can have a polite, respectful tone and a fair exchange of opinions in a good atmosphere, even if they disagree, and that even on Fox News. My compliments.

[@svenhaight477]

Will needs to stick to having right wing partisan hacks as guests, David just made him look like an idiot.

[@autumnleaves8553]

How on earth is Biden too old and incompetent but not Trump?

[@lastjob2011]

Because Trump has cult members, and Biden doesn't!

[@gnomechomsky2524]

Because that’s how cultists think

[@brandong298]

It’s not his age. Bernie is older and fine but honestly both he and Trump are senile.

[@aegisrunestone5573]

His fake tan, his fake hair, and his loud mouth makes all the difference to the cultists

[@HannibalOrJustRex]

Because Trump proves he's still young and virile by dancing like a toddler who just messed his pants. By the way they proudly show up to his rallies wearing diapers it seems like his cult is really into that kind of stuff.

[@bethflynn4278]

I'm 61 and have always been against abortion and voted republican.. I have learned and changed my stance and have switched to democrat and support a woman right to choose and to have good health care. I have no problem with Biden changing his view over the years. I am happy he is hearing Americans and giving us what we want and need.

[@socal2020]

Thank you!

[@winonaho]

Something I wish more Republicans would accept is that it's totally okay to accept that one might have been wrong about Trump.

[@Chase0522]

You are awesome Beth

[@dilsadmeraler]

This is such a refreshing thing to read. Why we all wouldn’t think and change our minds about everything? Life is changing , ideas are evolving and there is no shame for changing our ideas. I promise you if I ever hear anything from republicans that will make more sense than democrats I would change my mind. Unfortunately I do not have anything so far 😂😂

[@freeindeed8416]

Why are you for abortion now

[@Yuallsomad]

Great job David! The fact you are sensible enough to account for things you don't agree with on 'our side'. They can NEVER admit they have anything wrong with them...They are so blind!

[@lisawallace1750]

The fact that the guy thinks he does not have a burden of proof is as ridiculous as him accusing David of being too specific in his rebuttal. Unbelievable.

[@Dragonslairminis]

That was the most telling. Except you know fox viewers will just ignore that bit.

[@lyfsabych]

​@@Dragonslairministhey'll ignore it because they're too stupid to catch it.

[@Verodeslilas]

This guy knows he lies and covers lies . No wonder he’s working for Fox News

[@ErnstKuhn]

He couldn't work there otherwise. Fox News is the worst thing to happen in journalism since the third Reich.

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@dianarising7703]

You did well, but I could only listen to that person for a short time. Joe is so much sharper than trump and much sharper than many politicians

[@laurendaryani4893]

The frustrating thing is how often these right-wingers judge everything through this already-skewed framework that rejects reality for their own delusions and then impose that nonsense on everyone else. I shouldn't have to convince Will that Biden _wasn't_ hopped up on drugs during the SOTU simply because Will has subscribed to the poorly supported notion that Biden has only ever been up to that point a cognitive vegetable. He and his ilk need to first convince me/us that Biden is a cognitive vegetable in the first place.

[@brianmi40]

Hold Cain to it: the BURDEN OF PROOF is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS on the CLAIMANT. He claims DRUGS, which drugs Will????

[@paisleycover]

Wow. I don't watch Fox. This is insane. Talking to this guy is like talking to a 3 year old.

[@uhspagettspookedya]

It’s like talking to a 9 year old who watched a youtube video called “How to Debate and Win (And Dodge THESE Traps)” and is trying to structure a conversation like he’s not in bad faith Maybe the irony is that he really doesn’t realize what bad faith is. Because he got SO triggered at just the word faith thrown out there at the very beginning, he almost missed David’s point in saying what he said

[@TheDesertwalker]

FOX's whole business model is to prey on the uneducated and under-educated.

[@w0ody16]

Will Cain admitting he's a Trump cultist. Well done David.

[@socraytes]

No he specifically said he rejects Pakman's premise of "agree with me or you're a cult member". That's me saying tell you, either vote Republican or you're a pedo.

[@James-ll3jb]

Are you deaf? Or just mentally ill? Nothing of the sort😊

[@Bigfacts1117]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@BlackIce3190]

He literally did no such thing. Stop lying.

[@w0ody16]

@@BlackIce3190 But he did though, just in more/other words.

[@Devinoch]

Man, you ran so many rings around this guy that it threatened to destabilize the rotation of the planet. Well done, David.

[@reneekelly3012]

😂 LMAO

[@Goofybear253]

​@@reneekelly3012lmao 😂😂😂 what no matter what you say your gonna look like a joke

[@kellier021285]

Pakman is a weasel imo

[@carked5707]

If there was a drug that made folks with dementia or cognitive decline wouldn't they be using it for older folks with these conditions.

[@chrisdoyle5646]

I think Trump was pausing for applause and it took him 35 seconds to realize he wasn't going to get it.

[@ososkic8673]

Where was it. How can i find the video

[@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965]

this guest shrieks about logical fallacies like a 13 year old debate-lord edge-lord LOL

[@willpenn2797]

Trump has been booed so much lately he is trying to hear which way the audience is going

[@DennepeerRelaxation]

It looked a lot like an absence. A light epileptic 'attack'. This includes the shaking his head.

[@edparry4640]

@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965you’re shrieking

[@nikkivicki4359]

When he said "So What?" to Trump's motivations, that's so infuriating.

[@JJ-zo1do]

I had the same reaction. “We had 1/6…so what?”

[@cable7152]

This guy if the shoe was on the other foot. "Biden only wants what's best for himself, he doesn't care about America, he's selfish, he is terrible, a president should only want what's best for the people of his country, he's just trying to stay out of jail."

[@daaaaaave]

He also fundamentally misunderstands the fact that Biden has just been a party man his whole career. His position is always smack dab in the center of the Democratic party. His position on an issue changes when the party moves on the issue, because what he believes in most is governing through compromise, i.e. democracy.

[@danbelard]

😂😂

[@robrawwilliams]

Usually the "so what" in a debate would counter with something more dynamic but he fell flat and offered nothing, not even a simplified rebuttal.

[@ericgranberg8893]

The sour look on Will Cain's face as David Pakman dismantled him and Trump, piece by piece, was hilarious.

[@michaelmartinez3674]

"You set the terms of defining me." Always playing the martyr.

[@jmw611]

David is easily 6 times smarter than this Tucker wanna be.

[@MrDoctorproctor]

He may be smarter however Biden is clearly in trouble cognitively. Pretending it’s okay because they gave him the Kennedy injection for the state of the union is a bad move. I find it disingenuous of Peckham to try and sell that Trump is in worse shape than him. It’s actually sad and gross.

[@fayeb.5855]

Cain presents himself as an educated intellectual….while supporting Trump. 🤣

[@evertvdb000]

tucker is worse tucker is nuts

[@MPR2]

More like 10x!

[@VinceG18]

😂😂😂😂. will didn’t take the jab davey did. right there it shows who is smarter.

[@davidhaut3778]

I love how these two can ferociously debate while being civil.

[@marks6292]

Except if you read the comments, that is not a value that the Left shares with you.

[@davidhaut3778]

@@marks6292 unfortunately I see nasty name calling coming from both sides, especially with the anonymity of being behind a keyboard.

[@reggiedixon2]

Frightening how the cult thinks.

[@robertmiller2720]

These Fox wackos are so disingenuous, it's sickening.

[@brucesmith8486]

The IQ level difference was on full display. David is so far above Will in intelligence and education and that was made clear. Will judges everything on how he feels with nothing to prove it. David goes off data, experts, and evidence. The right intelligence level is so low it’s scary.

[@jmw611]

It really is LOL

[@normzehms3548]

...and ignorant. They've adopted an attitude of certainty. "Always right-ism" is another example of projection on the right...constantly harping on the idea that the intellectuals always think THEY are right. Who has evidence? Science? Doctors? Experts? ....NO! "I" do!

[@Syclone0044]

Disingenuousness and rank hypocrisy are prerequisites for the Republican Party.

[@cece3802]

He has never silenced himself during a speech for 35 seconds. NEVER!

[@kaoko111]

He NEVER shuts the fuck up For 2 seconds.

[@ceasaragye1594]

I said the same thing too. Another time I have seen him silent like this was when, Trump had a meeting with Nancy Pelosi.

[@ianharrison3464]

The gaffes are piling up now.

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@elizabethsmailliw3276]

Trump was not in a dramatic moment. He forgot where he was!

[@joburke10]

David smoked Will Cain on the dementia debate, Cain came with generalizations, and david provided specifically and asked Will to counter he couldn't so topic change.

[@JOMAFUA]

So Bottom line, what does this mean in regards to Trump and Biden?

[@bruce8676]

Dude was a 🤡 on ESPN, still a 🤡

[@TracyGarner-mf2uf]

By the way Will, thanks for leaving Texas, you did us Texans a favor.🎉

[@beanabovethefrank1499]

Like watching washed up Kennedy. I remember when she was a VJ for MTV. I also remember she was voted the worst VJ on the show. She was a whole lot humbler back then. I had such a good laugh when she stood outside the premier of the rebooted first "Mission: Impossible" movie, at whatever theater, and along came Martin Landau. She actually asked, "What are you doing here?" And she still doesn't research anything she talks about.

[@jander1535]

Will Cains face when David destroys his arguments😅

[@karleenfoley4405]

Mr Pakman, your self-control is incredible and I learn so much from watching you. Thank you.

[@rejinc]

This righty is clueless, talks out of the side of his mouth, sounds like a used car salesman

[@scotthelwig9640]

Sure - you have “expert doctors” saying no drugs could help Biden in that way, but because I heard some dude at a BBQ say that “Biden must be on drugs” is something that can’t be ignored. #TrumpCult

[@ceasaragye1594]

I also said then how come, so many rich folks have parents with dementia and they can’t be help with the same drugs President Joe Biden is using.

[@threetreasures7698]

😂😂. Sad, but true. No mention of the sleeping and farting wanna be king in the court room, though. Talking about drugs!

[@ianharrison3464]

He dishonestly acted as if he wasn't the one making the wild claims with zero evidence

[@davidthompson184]

Bro there is a video of Biden where his pupils are heavily dilated and he doesn’t blink for over 40 seconds. That is not normal. A clear sign that he was being pumped with some drug cocktail. Who tf are you kidding lmao.

[@jennifer4bz953]

I'd rather have Grandpa (who may be showing cognitive decline and getting slow) look after my well being than a demented, revenge seeking authoritarian. Oh, I forgot morally corrupt.

[@marcnigro146]

So super high inflation, compete open borders, lawlessness and crime everywhere, transgenders and cocaine at the white house, wars all over the world now , everything we buy to live it at all time high prices....thats taking care of us???

[@TrewlPatrol]

Lol…narcissistic tendencies

[@Hipnip1son]

I’m on board with you @jennifer4bz953. I’d vote for a dead dog before Trump.

[@myhelina123]

Bravo David! You are an excellent debater. Proud to have you on our side.

[@OconByrd519]

Will Cain was on espn, then he showed his ugly, right-wing side.

[@brucesmith8486]

I have no clue who Will Cain is but he is so far gone and it’s to the point that he is rejecting scientists and mental health experts. He even went out of his way to point out he thinks health professionals are wrong. I’ll take the experts word for anything over some KZbinr.

[@sethmann6397]

Will Qaeda showed his political side early on ESPN.

[@irishva2314]

Oh, so he saw power of the grift! More lucrative not to see the truth of what trump is or that Dems are war monger when the whole Ukraine attack by Russia is putin and trump working together59 promote authoritarianism! Will, say something negative and find yourself out on your behind if he wins! You won't be on the air without being his state run tv! Where the hell have you been!

[@Israel-nb7ip]

@@sethmann6397 yup...this is a guy who routinely and consistently defended the Confederate Flag being in UNITED STATES public premises and in sporting events when on ESPN. Anyone who does that is making it clear where they stand. Plus, he's completely disengenious and bad faith in his argument. 100% political hack/tool.

[@mrwilson7617]

@@brucesmith8486 He sites people sitting around the backyard talking. His ''proof'' is ''People are saying''

[@Audiomainia2310]

David, you absolutely shredded this guy - he is not in your league whatsoever.

[@taypendik]

Thank you guys, Nice to have two people debating admitting certain things, spending time to understand each other, THANK GOOOOOOOOOOD

[@fleurybreedin3682]

It is absurd. You don’t give an 81 year old man uppers or stimulants unless you want him to have a heart attack!

[@marydungan6748]

I saw Joe speak a few months ago, and he had no problem speaking, other than that what would be expected for a man he's age. He's still sharp. I've seen it for myself.

[@michelejennings7645]

That's how dumb they are. 1 says it and the rest follow, no questions asked.

[@philipstanco6011]

I don't think Trump has stopped whining for 35 seconds in his entire life.

[@user-cp9lz9pt8b]

Popped out of a golden poosey at birth, inherited millions for doing nothing and then fell bass ackwards into the Presidency after losing the popular vote. The unluckiest most unfairly treated man on the planet, he has ever reason to whine. No bigger victim than this guy.

[@DietyOfWind]

The only time I noticed that Tump was silent for a little bit was right after Epstein died.

[@philipstanco6011]

@@DietyOfWind I forgot about that one.

[@Chereese0808]

And LYING, STEALING, HARRASING, BULLYING and more. #TrumpIsKaren

[@kathyheckman9530]

And neither has he stopped LYING for 35 seconds in his life!

[@Kapoonas]

Gotta love a guy getting taken to school on his own show by his guest. Very well spoken David.

[@sofiabertolli8389]

Exactly. This debate was brutal for will cain 😂

[@jryecart8017]

the KKK (as do similar racist groups and movements such as Black Lives Matter and La Raza) are supportive of the Democrats. During the 2016 United States presidential election, the KKK supported Hillary Clinton for President,[3] whose mentor, the late Democrat senator Robert Byrd, was a longtime KKK member.[4] This came after the Klan attempted, in possible collusion with the Democrats, to discredit Donald Trump and his campaign by publicly pretending to "support" him (and in so doing, fabricated a false link between the KKK and the Republicans and falsely labeled the GOP as the "racist" party, as the Democrats have done since 1964[5]). This backfired when Trump in particular, and the GOP in general, who have always opposed the KKK and despise what they stand for, rejected the Klan's "endorsement"; thus, the historic Democrat-KKK link, which has long been common knowledge,[6] was brought to light. Thomas Sowell wrote:[7] “ 'Racism' is the trump card in the indictment of Republicans. But the cold fact is that the whole Jim Crow era in the South was dominated by Democrats. ”

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@autumnleaves8553]

David is so good at this. He has the knowledge.....he does his homework.

[@SpencerfromEarth]

"Because the professionals have a sterling track record over the last 5 years" *he states generally, implying all professionals are untrustworthy just "because"* "Well critic the actual specific experts, Dr. John Gartner, etc." "I can't do that." He's willing to imply that all professionals can't be trusted but not willing to commit on specific people. He's a clown and part of the cult. Didn't take long to see the bias.

[@dizzleslaunsen2372]

That and him saying that trumo and Biden doing the exact same thing is somehow lived. Going 90 in a 50 and Trump is going 60 in a 50” like just that comparison alone is crazy considering these are their standards…..you can’t say “oh wow Biden stumbled that means he’s unfit as president, but Trump doing the same thing means nothing!” Wow.

[@jbern2185]

Trump in front of a captive audience and quiet for 35 seconds? - yeah, there is some kind of breakdown.

[@donsachse]

Good job David with the typical arrogant and hypocritical conservative.

[@TO-w6y]

“Why isn’t it showing up on any poll about that Americans are concerned about Bidens age” That aged well for you David, you’re a clown bruh

[@pn3940]

Can’t argue with MAGA minds.

[@mrwilson7617]

They are gone. Straight down the Cult-45 rabbit hole head first. How Jordan Klepper did it for all those years is insane. He deserves a Medal of Freedom.

[@siswohlslagel8919]

It's a total maze in maga brains 😨

[@FionaKelleghan111]

@ktbn22 I agree that that was the tenor and feel of it. But with different opinions, the facts need to be the basis. When I bet on a racehorse, I look at its history, its parents, its wins and defeats. I'm sorry, but you've reminded me of when the uneducated say "it's just a theory." A theory is incredibly important in the real world, it's not merely a hypothesis. Yes, we do all need to be able to disagree - I agree!

[@stella-gx8ne]

Tried. Uh oh. They are a cult.

[@stella-gx8ne]

Let’s start calling it a fox hole and leave the rabbits alone.

[@glennrdbotten8983]

I live in Scandinavia, Norway. What we have is tremendous freedom, and especially freedom from fear. I don’t understand why you would not want a scandinavian model for society? Yes we pay slightly more taxes, but the things we get in return is totally worth it.😊

[@yarnpower]

I totally love how your society and government is structured. I wish we had that all here.

[@ericapoe]

I envy your maximum freedom in your country. The US has a lot to learn about the Scandinavian countries.

[@seanp7dc]

Cain: Scandinavia is a bad homogenous example. David: . I don't want to turn this into a history lesson. Cain: Er.....uhm.... let's move on. 🤣

[@vietnamd0820]

As an American, I would be completely in favor of the Scandinavian model of society …although I haven’t been to Norway, I have been to Finland just last month, and I’m impressed with how safe it is there …I’ve never seen anywhere in America children that look like they’re 10 years old walking around and taking public transportation by themselves

[@bccbaron12]

Hey out of curiosity, how would you describe the right wing politicians in Norway? Are they trying to dismantle the country’s social-democratic policies? Have they basically accepted that Norway is a liberal country? How big is the ideological gap between liberal vs. conservative elected officials?

[@dianne8936]

Never heard of Will Cain, but he was COMPLETELY out of his intellectual league with David!

[@rodo2220]

I thought he seemed pretty reasonable

[@kevinfehr5934]

Same. Seemed like a reasonable guy trying to make a different point.

[@digitalben420]

What’s a “really big audience” ? Asking for a friend.

[@baxtar1963]

Trump doesn’t have any vision just wants to stay out of prison

[@karenwhaley8635]

And if should happen to win will change government as to not block all the things he couldn't do the last time he won an election! 😮

[@dylansparrow6169]

That rhymes and I'm stealing it faster than Trump steals quotes from Mein Kampf

[@chenzen1578]

Also a dick(tator)

[@ryans6186]

Well he wants to make money off of his base as well

[@MaryMerryKingOfTheWoodsIsHe]

And you better believe he’s getting paid by Russia and probably China.

[@haydaytyphoid9005]

fox guy is a joke

[@OfficialDangus]

A really bad joke.

[@khalilismail666]

Will Cain got sick of losing sports debates--so now he's taken to losing political debates.

[@jaybird3651]

On ESPN always thought he was just playing the Contrarian, being the foil that took the losing side of each debate after fox realize he will say anything to grab a check

[@Ryanlexz]

David try so hard to be progressive when in reality he a joe biden supporters. No progressive i know support israel war in gaza. Where a ceasefire video?? 🤔

[@King_of_Godz]

Both of you are standing on FACTS

[@johncrook9519]

He's failed as a business reporter, he failed at ESPN so he's trying politics at Fox. Their bar is so low so maybe he'll stick there.

[@Ryanlexz]

@@johncrook9519 say the guy that support Palestinians genoside🤢🤢

[@michaelesparza4972]

David is at another level. Will should have stayed at ESPN.

[@normajeanrahn9489]

David you are brilliant. Will Cain is foolish. David I give you a lot of credit for going up against such a foolish argument. This guy makes. I’m proud of you. You did a great job. I’m an old lady and I love watching your show.

[@karenwhaley8635]

Ditto 😊

[@MelissaBrazier-vw6zo]

Ditto too 💙🗳🙏

[@antimediaman9354]

Pakman is guilty of misrepresentation: Pakman suggests that Will Cain asserted Biden is on drugs. Deflection: When Will clarifies he never made such claims, Pakman says, "I'm willing to leave it at that." Further Discussion on Substance Use: Misrepresentation: Pakman continues to discuss specific drugs like Adderall and Provigil, implying that Cain's argument is about these specific substances. Deflection: When Cain points out he never mentioned specific drugs, Pakman continues to address the specifics of these drugs rather than the broader accusation of cognitive decline. Pakman is being caught left and right as he tries to pull this crap and then backs away after being called out.

[@antimediaman9354]

"David you are brilliant. Will Cain is foolish." and you are dumb and make incoherent statements. If Will is a fool than David cannot be brilliant for beating a fool. You argument with logic and can't win.