Project AE86: Killer Suspension Upgrades!

[@ItsJustCams]

"If you want a backseat, that kinda sucks, but who cares about the back seat?" As much as I chuckled? He's absolutely right if you're this far into a AE86 build.

[@AlfaElaborazioni]

This is a great video for anyone that is working on any rear live axle RWD car. Been developing my 1960s Alfa Romeo with homemade mods and fitted a watts linkage on the rear axle and am now looking into anti squat and anti dive. Your explanations are awesome! Great to hear other people talking about these subjects to broaden our personal understanding. Thank you!

[@scuderia_team]

Same here! I'm updating my rear watts link on my 87 alfa romeo milano. Interesting to see similarities with the 86. Funny enough I actually think like the milano looks a a lot like an 86 (the Levin) in the way that it looks from the front. Funny parallel

[@CarRacerGVR4]

Adjustable ackermann is super cool

[@rekik66]

The only thing I would change for my needs. The majority of the time on the street with my kids. Would be poly ends. At least poly ends on the body side. Also, yes I am enjoying this content!!! Can’t wait to watch how you decide to reinforce the chassis! I’m taking notes over here!

[@stevenoe6395]

Cool ass setup but kinda takes some of the fab fun out lol but I will definitely have to remember this video!!!!!! Not sure if that power assist is the same company that was making them around 15 20 years ago but me and a buddy put one in a old Camero or firebird can't remember he had took the old power out to put a track steering set up in but realized it wasn't good for street use in slow driving I found a setup like that on line and it worked great dint have the adjustment but made it so much easier to drive when you have to go slow lol

[@motoiq]

Sort of needs some difficult fab to put those upper mounts in correctly.

[@barthockerman7103]

I miss my 86, thank you Mike for giving me my fix.

[@mrbookends]

I don't even have an 86 but it's Mike so, you know, class is in session.......

[@peted5217]

Hard-core mod for the serious racer.

[@rubenduran86]

Great selection of parts. Taking notes for my build. Thank you and keep the videos coming

[@JenGM24]

Man that's pretty sweet.

[@jasonDudeGuy]

I'm really curious to see how the electric power steering turns out. Those extended rear trailing arms seem like a massive improvement, but damn I really like the look of my full interior. Mike's really about to make me gut the rear of my car just so I can pull off one long drift out of turn 9 at laguna. Either way, loving the build, this is a lot of good insight about the 86 suspension kinematics, keep it up!

[@xavru4142]

I love this build! Thanks for sharing this information

[@lucasblanchard47]

An AE86 is an absolute dream car of mine. Simple and fun. Hopefully I’ll get one someday.

[@BLoudermilk]

This build is going to be a beast. Loving this series, Mike!

[@cboo4337]

I just got an ae86 , definitely might have to try all this parts since my mine is fully stocked

[@GP-fc7jv]

Love the build

[@greghankins6669]

love this video, love listening to this guy. thanks.

[@cnknguyen]

Hi Mike.

[@Gripen047]

Looking forward to the reinforced front swaybar mounts for my own project.

[@joshuaperrone326]

Gonna be a good day when Mike uploads.

[@DavidVidaurri]

Excellent

[@kimochi3842]

love the 86 content

[@davidgutierrez2490]

Hey Mike, I love your build engine series on how to build the ultimate engines and why you use each part. I was just wondering if you will ever do a 2.5l duratec build since they're becoming a common swaps for mazda speeds and miatas

[@motoiq]

We haven't had any calls for them yet.

[@anydaynow01]

Alright another project upgrade video, time to grab a snack and enjoy the show and info! 😃🍿

[@ae86fiend]

Feeling a bit nostalgic 😊

[@Backyard_Racing]

Jesus the amount of adjustability is unfathomable.

[@donttrusttheape]

I would love to se Mike explaining how to calculate size of spherical bearings, he keeps saying they oversized, but how the hell calculate what is a correct size for given loads/weight? As always great video and great little car to have.

[@motoiq]

It is not easy but you can estimate the given load by adding all the force vectors on it, multiplying it by the lever arm on it, and adding a 2x factor of safety in case your math sucks. I don't recommend you even try unless you are good at math and physics. If you are not, look at other successful proven designs and copy them. I don't want to sound disrespectful but if you have to ask, you shouldn't try.

[@rideepicdriveepic]

Mike, what are the chances you guys do a walkaround of the projects in the garage? The jade R35 is obviously interesting, but we want to see the RX7, 240z and everything else you guys have hiding in the background.

[@motoiq]

Those are not our cars so the owners might not want their stuff shown. Or we are only doing part of the build and we don't approve of the rest of the car.

[@rideepicdriveepic]

@@motoiq I understand, makes sense. Thank you!

[@thevtecnician]

Billet aluminum hubs?! This is the first time I've seen an aluminum hub that's crazy

[@DavidViny]

Now would be a great time to build a mumford linkage setup in the rear!

[@motoiq]

I mean a watts linkage does the same thing with less parts, the only advantage is a Mumford linkage has better ground clearance so maybe you could set the roll center lower but why would you want to get it even lower than a watts can? I prefer a panhard rod anyway. Less parts and you can place the roll center about where you would want it. The only disadvantage is a slight migration in lateral location if the pahard geometry is correct.

[@benjifigueroa9737]

I wish you could do this kind of video for a Mk1 MR2 but grip instead of drift mods. Sadly, it's not as acclaimed as the AE86. 😢 However, this is very useful info. Thanks for that.

[@timothyschardt6672]

I'm so stoked for this series! How much was the whole kit and cuboodle?

[@motoiq]

Man I am not sure! Go to the T3 website and add it up.

[@volcom514]

If you end up upgrading your coilovers, I’ll take those greddy coils 🤣🤙🏼

[@motoiq]

Sure, email me at [e-mail]

[@YouBuildItYouBreakIt]

Yup, for sure my stiffness varies depending on what hole it's in. That's why it's important to test drive components before you get married to a particular brand.

[@higormeca]

Great video Mike, learning a lot every video, thanks! I have a 70's car that has unequal length 4link + a panhard bar. Your comments about the rear suspension helped me a lot to understand why I am getting wheel hop. I want to learn more about this, would you recommend something to read/watch about 4link rear suspensions?

[@motoiq]

Chris Alston wrote some good stuff.

[@higormeca]

@@motoiq Thank you! I'll definitely check it out!

[@asyrigos]

Got most of the upgrades in the video with the exception of sway bars, still using the stock ones. Got mid-corner understeer, how would you try to fix that one? Upgrade sway bars?

[@motoiq]

Try to get the most grip out of the front first, like making sure you have enough front negative camber, your front bar isnt binding, you have the right tire pressure, your shocks are adjusted right, if the front is working well, then add more rear roll stiffness.

[@nickpappas4133]

Great video and very informative, did you do data previous on road course and acceleration and skid pad to compare to after suspension mods.

[@motoiq]

Of course not. Want to pay me to do it?

[@filepz629]

❤️‍🔥MOTOIQ❤️‍🔥

[@Accepting_AE86_Donations]

What's a good solution if we wanna keep our back seat? I see the old owners mods previously installed but is there anything better you could recommend? I don't want to cut my car yet...

[@bernardwarr4187]

Greetings from The UK. I don’t have a Nissan, but the information is mainly relevant for RWD applications

[@motoiq]

This is a Toyota

[@danielcasey7862]

Can you do a GR corolla suspension video!

[@motoiq]

If we get a GR Corolla one day.

[@XX-nw1xg]

Hi Mike, generally how do you prefer to balance roll stiffness between springs and anti roll bars? For a rally application would it make sense forego anti roll bars for the extra suspension articulation?

[@motoiq]

In rally you still want bars, just not big ones.

[@XX-nw1xg]

@ generally what spring to bar balance do you target? Do you keep the bars for balance tuning purposes?

[@motoiq]

It depends. Most cars have a greater percentage of roll resistance in the bars, even from the factory.

[@AT-fi9dj]

Does a 2JZ in a AE86 make any sense? Will the weight/power of the 2JZ overwhelm the chassis?

[@motoiq]

No

[@CrazyCat229]

Shame on you moto iq for making me miss my beater AE86 even more than I already have for years. *joking*

[@proto7688]

vat iz dis? Wer iz de wizefab?

[@motoiq]

T3

[@proto7688]

@motoiq iz Google vat iz t3? De Google sayz me. "T3 is a street name for Tylenol with codeine, a prescription drug used to treat pain, diarrhea. " Wery nize

[@motoiq]

Try Techno Toy Tuning

[@tb1048]

What up Mike? I didn't forget about y'all. I'm still going to get y'all to build a k24 motor for me. Just trying to get that money together. If I go all out with that motor with turbo what would be the price range? Also, what would be the best transmission to put behind that?

[@motoiq]

What kind of car? What kind of end use? What kind of power? What kind of fuel?