$70 vs $2,300 Welder? Let's Settle This! Weld Strength, Duty Cycle, Current Output, Build Quality

Let’s see if a $70 welder can outperform the more expensive rivals. It does indeed claim to deliver 200 amps of current, which is more than the $2,300 Lincoln welder. A big thanks to Joe for helping me test the welders for weld quality, penetration, current output and accuracy, ability to weld on rusty metal, and duty cycle.
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[@ethermelt4780]

Thank you, Joe! It's great to have an expert supporting what's already the best tool-testing channel there is!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@rickjames2327]

@@ProjectFarm looked on your channel but couldn’t find one. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but a Video on silicone spray? Want to spray some on my suspension parts to stop squeaks. I see many brands but don’t know which is the best and last longest for the job. Thank you!!

[@infiniti37G]

​@@ProjectFarm I welled like a pro for years. I used a 220V gas Lincoln( and others) and its much better then the 120V HB Flux welder. The Lincoln welds smoother, hotter, thicker marerals, stronger welds

[@Kawka1122]

@@ProjectFarm hopefully Joe will never be substituted by Kuka robot run by GPT4

[@fram1111]

@@Kawka1122 🤣

[@marklewus5468]

I am a retired engineer, and I see a lot of people test things on KZbin in dumb ways. Your channel is not one of those. Thanks for all of the effort that you put in to make these comparisons scientifically meaningful.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@teddysurf]

So here’s a question as a retired engineer would a true RMS clamp meter have been a better way to test the amperage?

[@James1095]

@@teddysurf True RMS is absolutely mandatory for testing welder current, especially that of inverter machines. The meter he used is true RMS, albeit a cheap one.

[@teddysurf]

@@James1095 is it a true RMS because most of the trms amp metes have “TRMS” printed on the meter and I don’t see it on this one? The reason I asked, is because I just bought a relatively cheap amazon Chinese welders and was in the market for a clamp meter and came across a video about true RMS vs average.

[@James1095]

@@teddysurf I looked up the model number and the feature comparison chart on Amazon shows TRMS for that model. Is that accurate though? Who knows. Even if it is TRMS it's worth checking the specs because even most of those have limits on frequency and waveform so it still may not read correctly on an inverter welder.

[@82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso]

Other people have praised your scientific method but I’d like to add on the editing. As fast as possible to convey as much information as possible, while never being too fast. No time padding nonsense. Great stuff

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@mikechapman4767]

This is what I love about the channel. All meat, no fluff

[@jsp9247]

Amen

[@txrick4879]

Right some U tubers have a short attention span .

[@novarian_nexus4117]

It's great having a professional welder do the inspection. Makes for an even more thorough review. Thanks Joe we appreciate your input more than you can imagine.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@refactorear]

Thanks Todd! Thanks Joe for making this testing much more precise and yes, we are all interested in a mig welder comparison!

[@kenreynolds1000]

100%. Appreciate bringing a pro who knows in use evaluations are as valuable as specs.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@aaronfield7899]

Ummm..... Why did Todd let Joe sponsor this video?

[@JacquesDerderian]

I got myself a weldpro for around $300 the thing is a champ for mig I'd love to see how it matches up in a mig comparison!

[@The_Establishment_Is_Satanic]

@@tuker384 🤷‍♂

[@blueballs8]

Thanks Joe! Always good to have a pro's skills and opinions to help with specialized testing! Thanks Todd for having him help!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@joeboxter3635]

​@@ProjectFarm Yes, it's good to have a professionals opinion on weld quality. The specs on how well the welds held is useful also. Nicely done.

[@johnbouldin9033]

Thank you Joe!

[@jamieem37]

I don't usually comment on any videos, but I have to say I've been watching you for ages and I can't even put into perspective the amount of appreciation I have for your tests that are done as scientifically and fairly as possible. It doesn't even stop at just fair comparisons, the actual qualitative information you measure and document and condense and present it's just honestly, the pinnacle of content creation in my opinion. So much work goes into all of your videos and I know there's slim chance you'll see this but I love watching every single one when I get a chance. I've learnt a hell of a lot, so huge thank you 🫶 keep up the amazing work.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much, will do!

[@christopherrobin462]

Same your my number 1 channel I watch and recommend keep up the great work

[@JA-zf8bg]

couldn't say it better. thanks

[@triktrak_1451]

Darn tootin'

[@chrisjudge31]

Wonder about a cheaper Lincoln like FC90

[@hughbrown1531]

I'm a hobbyist welder at the moment and this explains the issues I'm having with my cheap SMAW welder. I'm actually surprised how much of a difference there is. Thank you! Also, thank you to Joe for the expert POV!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@charlesdalton985]

Thank you Joe for assisting in the testing. All of us out here greatly appreciate Project Farm and all the hard work that goes into this channel. ~ Chuck

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@TheGifted333]

@@ProjectFarm You do know that you have the best educational channel on KZbin right? Before I purchase anything for my shop, I always search for it on your channel to see if you've done a test comparison on that particular tool. You have literally helped out 10s of thousand of us men or more make the right decisions on what not to buy for our next project. Every guy I know watches your channel. Keep up the hard work Project Farm and thank you for all you do. P.S. THANKS JOE!!

[@markloney427]

Thanks Joe

[@OneWhoWas]

I think the channel can benefit greatly from some subject matter experts like Joe. Having the raw test data is a really good thing, however, having the thoughts and input from the experts can provide Insight that may not be measurable. Well done guys!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@doom0d1]

Yeah I second this as welders in particular are a bit of a difficult area to do unless a proper welder checks them out on the practical end. It was nice to see the testing show what is better for small projects and short welds.

[@simonbainbridge3507]

Thank you, Joe!!! You've hitched your wagon to the best YT DIY channel on the planet and it is much appreciated by the viewers. Trustworthy and unbiased contributions from professionals and master craftsman such as yourself see to it that everyday DIY folks can tackle projects safely without breaking the bank or wasting money in inferior and inefficient tools. MUCH appreciated.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@thecat6062]

Thanks to Joe for helping out. It's nice to see professionals working together to obtain accurate assessments of various products.

[@DullPoints]

Joe's assessment was the vote of confidence these products needed. Exceptionally well done work on this video.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@sheikreal]

As a 20 years full-time professional welder who has always worked with big expensive machines like 5-10K$ Fronius/Lincoln/Miller, I didn't know that great "cheap" welders like the Harbor Freight Titanium were a thing. Another awesome video, and thanks to Joe! Subjective input from a professional on how the welders behave is invaluable.

[@andrewarmstrong9194]

I got a titanium mig welder for just over 500 bucks, this thing is the ticket for someone who does projects or small welding jobs

[@_AndromedaGalaxy_]

yes i have the same Titanium as in the video. not bad for a cheap stick welder. 480v machines will always be far superior.

[@omisan771]

Same here. I'm surprised such cheap machines can deliver that much.

[@DZADangerous]

​@@andrewarmstrong9194 I want to make my own smoker, would the titanium be good to use for that?

[@Redneckemtb]

100000😅

[@RLamb-gu2yh]

Thank you Joe! Project Farm is exceptional at giving solid real world results with the highest level of integrity. Thanks for bringing Joe on board.

[@robromej]

I am definitely interested in seeing mig welders tested against one another. Miller, Lincoln, Everlast, and titanium as well as whatever other brands you see fit. Thank you for a great video!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@jskjsk3986]

Thanks Joe and Todd for bringing in experience when it was needed. Duty cycle kills cheap tools.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@jimboreaddabible777]

What I love about your videos is that there is no long intro and fancy junk. You get right into what we're here for. The facts and the results.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@ObservationofLimits]

I know right? His videos are concise and to the point. No 10 minutes of rambling every other test and lots of useful charts

[@gerhardlesch3615]

I appreciate your honesty about your lack of welding prowess & getting in Joe for cool, expert analyses of welding results. Many thanks to Joe!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@davida1hiwaaynet]

Thanks for the comparison! I have always used Lincoln welders and have a 20 years old SP135 which still works amazingly for me. I laughed at the "plasma event" on the cheap non-protected Ssimder welder when it failed during the endurance test. Thanks to Joe for his welding assistance for this test!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

[@MrGiXxEr]

As a life long Miller welder user, the Titanium line is fantastic for the price. Their duty cycles are usually better than the more expensive Vulcan welders too. Been running the Titanium multi process off 240V for close to 4 years now with almost daily welding and it just runs and runs never hitting the duty cycle or losing arc integrity at all. HIGHLY recommend!

[@campbellpaul]

I'll have to check out that welder.. I wonder who they copied it from for it to be that good.

[@MrGiXxEr]

@@campbellpaul Not sure. I know the comparable Miller is over $3k and only comes with the MIG leads, they make you buy the stick and TIG leads separate!

[@hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476]

WOW!!: Experienced Pro's words are priceless!!.💪🥇

[@Gary-tc7zx]

I have the titanium 120 mig welder. Absolutely love it.

[@campbellpaul]

@@Gary-tc7zx I hear the Titanium MIG 140 is good for 1/4" steel and doesn't trip 20a breakers.

[@stevenpope]

Your objective take and analysis makes you subjectively the absolute king and my go to source before buying anything. Don’t ever stop what you’re doing!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!

[@hankpoth9681]

Cpuldn't have said it better!

[@bluebook6312]

Thank you for giving us honest reviews and advice! You have definitely influenced my decisions. Also big thanks to Joe for coming out to give a hand. :D

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@sebastianmeans5954]

Thank you Joe! I'm glad to see a professional help us understand the welds. Thank you Project Farm for showing everything without bias and linking the welders!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@urbancornbread5500]

Joe’s thorough, concise, and down to earth way of analyzing the welds is right on target. I’m about 5 years into Aerospace fabrication and design and I can tell you I wish I worked with Joe.

[@Elaba_]

I am afraid of flying...

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@mbrang00]

Joe, I just wanted to let you know how much i appreciated your help with this production. I myself dabble in the arts of metalwork and know well enough how difficult it can be to put yourself away to assist with an endeavor like this. your aid and assistance has proven to me and all of man kind that there is still a chance that humanity as we know it has not yet been lost. I love you joe.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@daveblane6442]

WTF are you??

[@jonny555ive]

Joe's Mom ? 😅

[@berrieds]

Joe was super cool, thanks for helping out! It means a lot to see trusted source contribute to the channel.

[@EddieNanakase]

Wow, fantastic channel ! These are the tests that we want ! These videos are full of technical specs. The tests done, test more things than I would have imagined. The videos get to the point and don't waste time with filler content. I love your work, keep up the fantastic work !

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@dannywoods3928]

Yes, no filler content is the best part. And so is the content. And so is the speed at which you are capable of coherently!

[@timtimtimmay4654]

The Titanium surprised me all around when I picked it up last year. I’ve been nothing but impressed with their line of welders lately.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@ericmackison9517]

I bought the multi-process Titanium a few months ago and have been satisfied. It's very easy to get set up and arc welds great even on 120.

[@Lesardah]

I keep hearing that. I have an old ESAB I use for stick welding, and it's getting long in the tooth. Gonna check Titanium out!

[@joeno215]

Thank you Joe, having you testing the welders definitely adds confidence to the testing. It's much appreciated.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@jesseespinoza3282]

Thank you both 🙏

[@jeffjohnson3695]

Love the expert support structure and I love the channel. I've used this in research for at least 10 things including the motor oil series and fuel inject/carbon cleanup chemicals.

[@masonsmith7018]

As someone who has been welding for 8 years I think this was some quality information being put out. I’d love to see a battery powered 4 1/2 inch grinder test. I’m pretty sure you did a corded test some years ago but with the technology in batteries I think they are gaining popularity as an option

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@Blakehx]

I keep looking at the Ryobi brushless angle grinder and die grinder but haven’t pulled the trigger yet!🤔

[@masonsmith7018]

@@Blakehx I’ve been thinking about the Milwaukee cordless die grinder set because I have tons of those little batteries already. That price tag hurts to look at 😂

[@Qthefun]

I just got a Ryobi and love it

[@joel89039]

Agreed! Torque test channel has a couple but a big roundup would be great

[@lmfinato]

Definitely want to see the wire feed welders. It's a skill I am considering trying to learn. And a big thanks to Joe

[@larrynason8716]

Wire feed welding is not at all difficult to learn. In the past couple of years I had to learn wire feed aluminum welding for my job in auto body. At 65 it's a bit of an old dog new trick thing. If you can stick or gas weld you will find wire feed a piece of cake.

[@1pcfred]

Wire welding is a lot easier to pick up than stick welding is. The welder feeds the wire for you. You still have to do a bit of testing before you weld what you want to to get your settings good.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@bigredwagonman]

I would love to see a MIG welder comparison! As affordable as stick is, it's no match for how user friendly MIG is for the uninitiated. Plus it's the bread and butter of every major home improvement retailer, including Amazon in this space. I love seeing these videos, and always look forward to seeing what creative ways you've concocted to get results and draw comparisons for the end user. Keep up the great work and thank you for the library of amazing and informative content you've created.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@fingeraid7995]

Thank you both. I have been wanting to see the results of different welding machines. I can’t afford the Lincoln so the you both have been a great help. Again, thank you Joe for your professional help.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@vinnys7514]

King of KZbin right here in my book. True dedication to the scientific method. No bs, no favor, just testing and brief synopsis. True craft.

[@andrewstombaugh9318]

100% agree with this! "Consumer Reports" could take more than a few lessons from this channel.

[@salutations5749]

@@andrewstombaugh9318 Preach !!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@jmshssk2]

Thanks Joe. As a self teaching amateur welder, its always a pleasure to watch a pro.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@macklyn]

The opinion of a professional welder is very valuable. Thanks Joe!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@JaredJanhsen]

Joe did great. Only a skilled welder can accurately do test pieces for a welder review. Many thanks to Joe for yet another great batch of product reviews.

[@drumtwo4seven]

LIES WASNT AN APPLES TO APPLE'S COMPARISON

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@chethaynes5802]

40 plus years as a professional Welder. You get what you pay for . Joe's high skill and experience was obvious. Great Report. Thank You. Valuable and Useful Information.

[@erik_dk842]

Correction: You rarely get more than what you pay for, but you often get less

[@fs3994]

It's also smart to buy what you need.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@alligatorguy101]

Joe. You are the savior this channel needs. We need full welder testing please my good sir!

[@paulstewart9224]

Hey guys, Thanks to both of you! Joe it is clear you have expertise, which is both helpful, and, just nice to witness someone good at what they do!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@jxtq27]

Thanks Joe! This is an amazing channel by itself, and with your expert assistance you've allowed it to extend into a tool I've wanted to see for a long time. It's clear that your skilled hands gave each of these machines its best chance, and it's enlightening to see how they stacked up. I hope you'll make another appearance :)

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@ClinttheGreat]

I’m definitely interested in seeing a multiprocess welder comparison.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@joemehere1151]

Thanks for helping out Joe and NICE WELDS!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@timwagster9458]

Thank you PF and a special Thank You to Joe! I hope Joe returns and helps with the other welder reviews. O yeah, more welder reviews please!😄👍

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@SeanCMonahan]

Thanks to Joe for providing his input on these welding tests! And even though I am not a welder at all, I'd love to see some comparisons of different types of welders, too! This channel is a fantastic resource. Whenever I need to purchase anything - hand tools, power tools, adhesives, pretty much anything - one of my first steps is checking whether Project Farm has a relevant video. TL;DR: thanks, and maybe someday I'll find a topic you haven't covered that I can suggest you test haha

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@ognap]

I'm glad I am not the only one who does this lol

[@ljprep6250]

@@ognap Oh, you're not, by far. ProjectFarm is the most concise, most well tested channel online, period. Todd does a fantastic job of it, and it shows. Thousands of folks swear by his findings and buy accordingly.

[@tehpanda64]

I love the segment with Joe. It's great to get a second opinion from such a skilled guy.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@GaryForgingOn]

Thank you Joe for helping out. I own a Lincoln 210mp and love it. Also just bought a Primeweld 325 tig. Have not used it much though. Thanks for the comparison of all these. I didn't realize there were welders under 100 dollars out there. Wild.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@scotthoover6689]

Thanks joe! I used to be a welder and its interesting to see these. Like always your reviews are second to none in my opinion. Thanks for taking the time to do this, and all the others! Thanks for being honest, and unbiased in all your videos, and for always testing the products in comparable and scientific ways. Take care

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@K0Kaz]

Wow, Joe's welds using these cheap stick welders look a LOT better than a lot of people's TIG welds. Very Impressive!

[@drumtwo4seven]

LIES

[@xxtimo_titanxx7189]

​@@drumtwo4seven lies

[@enderblazex2718]

@@drumtwo4seven Found the "pro" TIG welder.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@rickylee2477]

Lol. You are crazy as hell. I’m not bashing on the man but none of those beads were anything to write home to mom and brag about.

[@dooshlerd]

Joe helped this test really shine. It's so odd seeing the results actually reflect almost perfectly "You get what yoy pay for" because usually the only real standouts are the cheapest for being mediocre and the most expensive for being overkill for most people.

[@1pcfred]

I was surprised some of them lunch box welders did as good as they did. For what I do they'd be fine.

[@Zanthorr]

@@1pcfred I have the Titanium flux core 125 and it's surprisingly good. If you have a small project that doesn't need 220amps they're perfect.

[@1pcfred]

@@Zanthorr I only tackle small projects. I'm not building bridges over here. I never need more than about 90 amps or so to do the welding I do. The last weld job I did I saved my garden cart rims. They were all rust rotted out. It came out OK. Was pretty thin metal I was working with. Replacing them would have been very expensive. I even patched up the steel tubes on it some. It'll be good for a while to come. I think I was running about 30 amps or so. I used really skinny electrodes too.

[@integrativeholistic]

Thank you both Joe and Todd for testing these welders!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@JustinTopp]

I have a small HONE 120 volt welder and have been super impressed with it. Claims 120 amps and I believe it. It feels accurate, 85 feels like 85 amps. Built a truck flatbed and burned 12 pounds of 3/32 7018 and never had any problems. Super smooth arc

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@MotorCityMetalArt]

Great video thanks Joe! Its cool to see harbor freight performing well in these tests almost like they're actually paying attention to what their custimers want.

[@chrisg1043]

And the Titanium isn’t even top end.

[@chadhowell1328]

The HF welders have been pretty good for a while. You’re right that they have been paying attn to what the customers want because they have been getting better and better.

[@MotorCityMetalArt]

@@chadhowell1328 yep. I picked up the titanium 125 for repairs around the property and im really impressed with how it welds. Especially compared to the old AC Chicago electric 90 amp flux core welder.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

[@joemad4110]

Thanks Joe!! As a welding engineer, this was an excellent video comparing cheap welders to each other. Another test I would recommend doing for the MIG video would be welding for at least 4hrs with the welder at the highest settings. Some of those cheap welders give up after 2hrs of use with high current because their electronics are not meant to sustain high current for more than a few minutes at a time. Please do not waste the money on tool truck welders. They are rebranded Lincoln or Miller welders, with less features and less knowledgeable people to help troubleshoot them.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

With that said, if you are a simple hobby user, like you would only use it for a few mins at a time here and there, then its DEF worth it to save the money. You could buy several before you spend the amount on a higher end one.

[@tjoenh4054]

@@OnceShy_TwiceBitten Been beating the heck out of my titanium 200 for a year now no issues

[@Lesardah]

Duty cycle would be a GREAT test! Good idea!

[@DownloaderVideo]

Thank you for your service Mr. Joe!!!!! Please keep helping my go to review/testing KZbin channel.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@jsstuff1431]

I definitely want to see a stand-off between the multi-process machines!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@MattLitkeRacing]

Nice to see the mid range Harbor Freight welder doing well. They have stepped up their quality

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@oxylepy2]

Great welds and great feedback, Joe! Couldn't have had such a quality video without you

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@grimJEEPer0420]

Maaaaaaan! After all these years it's awesome to see that this channel hasn't changed their thorough and overly helpful analysis's. I have been watching since 60,000 subs and for whatever reason (the reasons are actually pretty clear) I root for Todd more than any other KZbinr I watch! You deserve every bit of what you have gained from helping us consumers (including yourself) make educated decisions on items we purchase. Also, a big thank you to Joe for supplying the beautiful beads!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@RoamGaming]

As a community college welding instructor working i get asked all the time about what inexpensive welder i would recommend. I've generally suggested the Harbor Freight Titanium and Vulcan but it's nice to know that there are some even more inexpensive welders that are reasonable options. considering I own the lincoln 210mp it was nice to get a little bit of verification that my money wasn't completely misspent. :)

[@andrewfowler1940]

I also teach welding at a community College. I have a student who brought in a prime weld, it has CK accessories and I was rather impressed with how it welded for the price. If I had the money though, I would definitely buy the ESAB 205i, very impressed with that.

[@Momoka7]

I just got a question, if I buy a welder and run it at 110 volt like from a normal garage outlet, a Welder will not melt the cables in the walls/trip the circuit breaker?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing!

[@frenchonion4595]

​@@Momoka7Not if the breaker is properly sized for gauge of wire. It will trip before it melts. 14 gauge wire needs a 15 amp breaker, 12 gauge wire a 20 amp breaker. You want bare minimum 20 amp circuit for a 110 welder. I got a titanium flux core welder that runs on 110 outlet and it works great

[@nicholasmigliaccio9107]

The breaker is there to prevent the wires from melting/killing someone. If the breaker matches or exceds the amps that said welder will pull then it wont trip it. Assuming it was wired properly the wires should be fine for the amp draw.

[@bigclivedotcom]

Good thorough test. It's worth mentioning that the clamp meter has to be capable of measuring DC current with the clamp as many only measure AC current. Thankfully the DC clamp meters are much more common now.

[@volvo09]

Yeah, the cheapest clamp meters you can find only do AC... I learned that by impulse buying my first cheap little clamp meter.

[@jcclark2060]

Not too mention that positive and negative have different functions between AC and DC.

[@zendell37]

Good to see ya, Clive! He's right! My RadioShack meter would do DC, but I found it hard to find others to do it at the time. Definitely something to keep in mind.

[@Juppie902]

clive please make a house fire video from the components of the 70¥ welder

[@smarts53]

I'd like to see you dissect the blown welder.....or any of them for that matter.

[@3dsmackdown]

Joe was very concise and to the point, exactly what a reviewer should be on welding. Good job.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@dannyherrera2163]

I'm originally a stick welder (SMAW). Was hesitant but i purchaced the titanium 225 stick welder from harbor freight. Its amazing if you have access to a 240v 50 amp breaker.

[@JasonBoydston]

I bought the Titanium over a year ago for fixing stuff around the house, tacking up metal fence and light repairs. So far it works great.

[@onetwothree2617]

I got one of the titanium wire feeds cheep. Harbor freight is great for all the home gamers.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@collinsmith9941]

This is the best channel ever. There is so few, true honest reviews on real equipment available. Thanks Joe.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@donnorris1954]

Thanks to Joe for his assistance and expertise! I hope that he will be able to help in a multi-process welder review.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@darinwilson8663]

I bought the deko for my son a few years ago and he uses it to hardface with 5/32" rods and assist on equipment repair jobs using multiple different types of electrodes. So far it has burned through over 1,000 pounds of electrodes with absolutely no issues other than the leads, they are absolute crap, replace the leads with quality copper and it's a reliable machine. He has ran that little unit for multiple days 8 hours continuous with no breaks other than adding a new eletrode in temperatures over 90 degrees. I have multiple large machines and have been a welder for over 35 years and I am shocked how well that little deko has performed. It was bought for a kid who wanted to learn how to weld and i never expected it to work and last as long as it has. It doesn't do well with 6010, but other than that, it's a handy little welder.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@ObliviousCrow]

I would love to see multi process welders tested, especially more budget options.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@drpoomanchu]

I 2nd this…!

[@davebenedict7986]

Same here! I am also curious to see how MIG machines would compare welding aluminum...

[@TheKidFromYTown]

Thank you Joe for participating in this testing and thank you Project Farm for all the testing you do.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@patrickpowers806]

Thanks Joe! Awesome work. It is always great to get a professional opinion on things when needed. Hope to see you on here again

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@melveyr]

I bought the Hone stick welder and it's working great so far

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@calebcrossley8254]

Thanks Joe for your professional help with this test. Todd, thank you for just solidifying yet again the validity of your channel. Your skills as a fabricator and designer are “very impressive” with all of your test jigs you fashion. But even with that, it is also very impressive to see you know when your limitations might hinder results. So instead of being to prideful and doing it yourself you call in an expert. Thanks for keeping this channel true and factual!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@markthomas4083]

Todd and Joe gave a professional test for us to learn from, great job guys!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@sciguy2000]

Great to hear from an experienced welder on these kinds of tests, really increases confidence in the results. Thanks, Joe :)

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@Bodhi1satva]

Thank you both! I want to know more about your setup for testing the welds themselves. That looks like just what I need to test my practice pieces as I’m learning to weld. Very impressive as always!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@Bodhi1satva]

@@ProjectFarm Suggestion? Did I make a suggestion? I apologize, I try hard not to do that to people!

[@ace0918]

Joe, thank you for stepping up and providing your expert POV, also delivered in a factual, precise, and no BS manner. Todd thank you for being honest and not ashamed to call in the big guns when you know you do not have the expertise to provide us with the most honest and accurate information possible!! Other than, for example, a shop rag or toothpicks and 'Q' tips, if it is in my shop, rest assured, I have scoured your videos, Todd, for an evaluation of what my next purchase should be. If you have not evaluated it, it's a flip of a coin as to what I should buy.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@drakecardin8567]

This is hands down the best channel on KZbin. Thank you Todd and Joe for another excellent product test!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@suckithardnfast]

Another high quality Project Farm upload. Unbiased, pro reviews. Your channel is a service to everyone, and I can't express how much everyone with their own projects at home appreciate your testing. Thank you for your hard work!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@cmdrclassified]

Big thanks to Joe for helping out! I hope to see him again on future welder reviews! Great work as always, Todd! Have a great day! o7

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@sugamedic188]

I own the titanium and a Lincoln and find myself using the titanium more often than the Lincoln after a few upgrades. I upgraded the stick lead welding clamp, the ground and the gas regulator. All relatively inexpensive to upgrade which made the titanium more comfortable to weld with than the Lincoln. My titanium also does tig welding. Ac or dc. I upgraded the foot pedal and this machine for the price even including the upgrades is a go to and by far the most comfortable and consistent welder I own. I’m not disappointed in it one bit.

[@ironmidg]

Bought the yeswelder based on this video. (been looking for a cheap welder for a while) I can say for the price, portability, 120 or 220v and simplicity anyone can weld with it. perfect for garage or field repairs. runs off my generator if needed. welded 3/8 steel with their recommended rods on 120v no problem. would recommend!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@alseidel5622]

A thank you to Joe for his great effort to help PF. I look forward to a new test on MiG and TIG welders. Thank you PF for your great channel. The tests and methods are a real benefit for a home gamer like myself.

[@brianhendricks5326]

We are looking forward to seeing a multiprocess welder comparison also. Love to get Joe's input on that test as well. Thanks Brian.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@tuukka518]

Really good idea to have an outside pro so that there isn’t that much user error in the testing! You could maybe test different welding sticks.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@SethMethCS]

Test different brands of electrodes. I don’t know if the quality is standardized.

[@TehButterflyEffect]

@@SethMethCS It's not. The cheap electrodes have slightly different flux coatings and aren't nearly as consistent. Washington Alloy, for example, is much more difficult to run than the same Hobart electrode.

[@connormcguire484]

You’d have your work cut out for you. Lincoln makes about 13 different variations of 7018 alone lol

[@justinnorton8799]

I own the mp210 and like it alot. It's easy to read display and easy to start welding with being it gives general ranges of amps and wire speed and takes size metal into effect. Simple yet powerful but pricey.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@eddieg7426]

I have a lot of experience with hands on welding of all types of welding, And I want to say good testing on welding. And A Big! Big thank you Joe

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@ExcavationNation]

My first welder was buzz box. I learned everything I could. I then moved to 70 dollar klutch. Bought the tig leads for it. Practiced every single day after work running beads up down sideways every direction. I would buy coupons to practice on from this metal supply company. After about 6 months I moved to a 2k dollar Everlast that does everything ac/dc foot pedal multiple settings saves(pulse/fade in/out etc) And id spent the next 6 months only running aluminum). I love welding and I'm 100 percent self taught 😎 you can do anything you put your mind too.

[@daltondenun858]

Are you now a welder as far as profession? I’d like to learn too but wondering if I should take a course, thanks!

[@caodesignworks2407]

Self taught, eh? No youtube videos, instruction manuals, etc...? I mean, kudos on learning, welding is one of the most useful skills to have. I took it in highschool all four years

[@TehButterflyEffect]

Why did you spend $2k on an Everlast? That's a lot of money for an off-brand welder.

[@ExcavationNation]

@@TehButterflyEffect I've never had a single issue with it I purchased it almost 5 years ago and it's fantastic.

[@ExcavationNation]

@@daltondenun858 noooo my friend I dig swimming pools. But I can fix anything if it breaks. If you want to become a welder for a job.. I'd definitely take courses. There's A LOT that self taught misses.

[@davehoward2791]

Thanks Joe for lending your expertise to PF; having an expert run the actual welds and offer feedback on each machine really helps us viewers make informed buying decisions. I have the Titanium Stick 225 and have found it to be an excellent machine for DIY projects and repairing farm equipment. Thanks to PF for yet another excellent and informative video. 👍

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@israelbahena8417]

Thanks Joe 😊 loved all the feedback

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@caseyschrunk9629]

Hey thank you for spending time on our video Joe. I hope you have plenty of wonderful time with your family and friends.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@bubbacomputer]

It's comments from someone like Joe that really helps a person understand the results. Great job Todd and Joe, I hope Joe helps you out on the next welding video!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@KreemieNewgatt]

Props for bringing in Joe. Good welding technique takes quite some time to acquire (I can vouch)

[@communitycollegegenius9684]

Yes, and re-do the A/C filters with an expert too.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@sorendk1]

Thanks for helping out Joe, great job :) And thanks for yet another informative video PF 👌👍

[@6Sally5]

Great review, Joe and thanks to Todd for his expertise. I love my Titanium welder and am very glad to see how well it performs compared to the Lincoln.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@georgeorwell126]

That was a great idea to bring in a professional welder to help with the tests! Joe seems like a great guy!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@Hybris51129]

Welding is one of those skills I have been wanting to just learn for years so this is probably one of the single most important videos you have put out for me personally recently. Here's hoping that Joe can help you help us amateurs in picking out good tools to start off with.

[@onionhead5780]

I took welding in vocational high school for two years. One of the best things I ever did. Made traction bars for my 4x4 and a pipe bumper in high school. Fabricated and installed a trailer hitch for my math teacher and it got me an A in his class. Never had a specific welding job but did it in all my jobs at some point when they found out I could weld. I’ve fabricated stuff for employers and personal projects just from an idea in my head. Bull countless items. It’s a great skill to know so I highly recommend you go for it. Never a bad thing to invest in yourself.

[@1pcfred]

With stick welding a lot of it is down to technique. The angle of the rod, the arc gap and how fast you travel. If you can get all of that right you can get good beads. Joe managed it even with these cheap welders. But that's because Joe knows how to weld. If he could have adjusted the current he'd have done even better.

[@fabian3265]

Ye me2

[@loveforthegame3]

buy a hobart, Dont learn on a garbage machine. You will learn the most with an accurate machine. trying to learn on a cheap welder will only fck things up more

[@1pcfred]

@@loveforthegame3 not everyone learns the same way. I am not sure how accuracy is going to help anyone considering the varied nature of the welding process. It's not all bench welding out in the real world.

[@johnpalmer5131]

Great review and thanks to Joe for adding his SME. Think it is great you are collaborating with others to improve your videos and encourage you to continue this.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@netgnome7996]

Welcome and thanks Joe.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!