Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! DeWalt Cordless Drill: amzn.to/3MI51IK DeWalt Corded Drill: amzn.to/3xDGT5N DeWalt Cordless Angle Grinder: amzn.to/3xCL2XS Dewalt Corded Angle Grinder: amzn.to/3xE0uml Milwaukee Cordless Reciprocating Saw: amzn.to/3Qflbwj Milwaukee Corded Reciprocating Saw: amzn.to/3QdzYYo Makita Cordless Circular Saw: amzn.to/3O3XHZa Makita Corded Circular Saw: amzn.to/3QcoioJ Ridgid Cordless Oscillating Multitool: Available at Home Depot Ridgid Corded Oscillating Multitool: amzn.to/39msvFU
@trumanhw2 ай бұрын
This was absolutely shocking. Great great great episode!! And ... thank you!
@Spaniard472 жыл бұрын
This cannot be said enough: Your test rigs are absolutely incredible! They must take a ton of time and creativity, yet they always come out perfectly, and it's what makes this channel so uniquely useful. Well, that and about 500 other things :).
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Bluesman572 жыл бұрын
@Evan Mayer Couldn't agree more, Todd's testing is the best, He's the Wile E Coyote of the testing world LOL.
@jaythatguyyouknow51352 жыл бұрын
@@jasonodell608 he did catch his roadrunner but it’s name just happened to be TTI…. Lol
@map1172 жыл бұрын
Can only agree. I kind-of hope that he's doing at some point a behind-the-scenes video, like how he comes up with a new test rig, the testing he does, but also how his place looks with all these test rigs being around and how the process is going on putting together a full review video. Love the content :)
@paulredding19552 жыл бұрын
Yep. Always impressed with PF's attention to detail. Excellent channel!
@mandc200222 жыл бұрын
Idk if people realise how much preparation and how long it took you to record this and get all the information you gathered but I am very impressed! Keep up the good work
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@misterchill2 жыл бұрын
As they say, Very Impressive!
@matthewmiller60682 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm That could actually be a cool video of a different type, behind the scenes what goes into these test videos. You do an absolutely AMAZING job of them, and I'm quite sure I don't have a good appreciation for how hard you work to come up with these amazing test rigs that provide real-world-relatable data in a hands-on environment similar to how they would be used on an actual job site. RPMs and amps are whiz-bang easy to market stuff but your test tells me how frustrating or easy it will be to actually get the job done.
@Abbadon20012 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmiller6068 this would be a video to bring to the top of the list!
@Abbadon20012 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm See Matthew Miller suggestion below ref a behind the scenes tour/video :D
@LuisC72 жыл бұрын
Best tool boxes? Maybe you can do a video ranking every single tool type from your testing. Like all in one video, a list ranking drills, saws, sanders. Everything so a new person can just get a nice recommendation
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@rogerheuckeroth74562 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I like the idea too, however, maybe split it into categories. Like best hand tools and best cordless tools... Its hard though because if somebody invests in a particular brand of tools, they are likely to stick with that brand due to battery compatibility. Maybe give each brand of tools a combined rating and see which is the overall best brand. 😂 Or maybe that will make too many people upset
@jpoplin12 жыл бұрын
That’s gonna get expensive 😂
@rayryngaert37692 жыл бұрын
I think a Milwaukee pack out test would be cool
@robs18732 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm you aren’t comparing the convenient accessibility of NO EXTENSION CORD! Thats priceless
@johndeerekid1672 жыл бұрын
It's also important to acknowledge that tool companies have a financial incentive to improve battery powered tools and make them more feature rich than corded. They make a lot more money on batteries than the actual tools.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@JoshuaSaundersAtLarge2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, batteries are the printer ink of the tool world.
@matthewmiller60682 жыл бұрын
I think it makes sense for the end users too though - let's face it, most people who are going to be buying LOTS of tools and batteries are probably using them all the time on job sites with possibly inconsistent power accessibility and still demand high performance or they'll shop elsewhere. For people using them all day every day the convenience also saves them time and money making the higher price worth it for corded power without lugging extension cables or generators. As a DIY person, I might use a circular saw a couple times a year...I have a tough time stomaching $200 for a cordless one that I will probably use in my garage or back deck next to a plug anyway, and I'm also willing to accept slightly lower performance in a lot of things if its 1/3 the price and is sufficient for the job. If I really need to use it farther out in my yard, I can drag out the 12 gauge extension cord for that rare time.
@TristanJCumpole2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaSaundersAtLarge They certainly are an ecosystem. Big companies like TTi produce battery tools for several brands such as Ryobi, AEG, etc. yet they're all incompatible with each others battery series.
@sleblanc2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Markup on both tools and batteries is very high (think of all those "buy a set, choose one for free" types of deals). Batteries don't account for nearly as much revenue, as the typical homeowner can buy the whole lineup of tools and still get by with two 2Ah batteries and one 4Ah. No need to get tens of batteries if you can only use one tool at a time. Yes, contractors buy a lot of tools and batteries, but 1) I feel like they go through tools faster than they go through batteries; 2) homeowners buy a lot more tools than contractors -- the construction company does not have a circular saw for every employee for instance.
@chris2007a2 жыл бұрын
I personally feel like corded power tools don’t get the same love when it comes to R&D anymore.
@boomerangfreak2 жыл бұрын
No which is 1 of the reasons they're usually starting to fall behind. Just look at the corded tools and they just look cheap! Like why are so many corded tools still made with brushed motors??? There are some exceptions tho, I have a dewalt DWE4357, which actually IS a premium corded angle grinder. Has all the bells and whistles and it has 1700 Watts of brushless power for it's 125mm discs. I bought that one mostly for wire brushes as it has variable speed and I can tell you it certainly isn't a slouch!
@andrewk86362 жыл бұрын
Yep, if they put brushless motors on corded saws they'd rip but tbh there is very few uses for cordless saws now outside of stationary tool or super high drain tools
@rockspoon65282 жыл бұрын
Companies get a heck of a lot more money from cordless because, once you buy one tool with their battery, you're much more likely to buy the next one from them so you can use the same battery.
@rc-daily2 жыл бұрын
Yep its all about getting you hooked onto one battery since the battery is what costs so much generally. After you get a few tools of one brand you'll continue buying that brand for the battery.
@mikehall56572 жыл бұрын
@@andrewk8636 AC motors are already brushless. A DC brushless motor works in a very similar way to an AC motor which is inherently way better.
@rondj19652 жыл бұрын
Being in new construction as an electrician, battery powered hand tools are a must. Everyone has an opinion on what brand and type of tools are the best. I’m always glad to know that someone is putting these opinions to the test in a fair, accurate and unbiased manner. This has got to be one of the best channels on YT for tradesmen. Great job as usual.
@1pcfred2 жыл бұрын
Electricians are team red and carpenters are team yellow. That is what is best.
@lolatmyage2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense if you're often going from room to room and there are no outlets available _because you are installing the outlets_
@markp82952 жыл бұрын
This and tool box buzz are the channels I use before making a purchase.
@1987FX162 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah for cutting conduit and screwing screws then battery is okay. But if your cutting 2-4 inch cores all day or cutting 250+ 4x4s a day than that's not the case unless you have like $10,000 worth of batteries. A $500 generator and $100 worth of 10g exstenton cord is WAY less than even 2 sets of batteries to run a sds max hammer drill or skill saw/sawall. They both have their application. I like battery, it's more portable. But for a skill saw or sawall or grinder especially a 7in grinder then plug in is what I reach for.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@mtadams20092 жыл бұрын
I own both corded and cordless tools and enjoy both. The big plus of the corded tools is twenty years from now they still work fine and I don’t have to worry about battery issues. That said I often use my cordless tools for ease of use, no cord.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@sleblanc2 жыл бұрын
That is true. I bought a Hitachi corded hammer drill about 15 years ago. I abused it a lot. I still have it, and it works just as fine, while a cordless Dewalt drill I bought two years ago has issues with the speed control.
@Senkino5o2 жыл бұрын
True enough, but if you run a company you can go through 4 grinders or drills in a couple hours in the wrong hands or environment.
@supermr22 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the same. Still have some of my dads corded and air tools from 60 years ago. My cordless stuff be in the trash in 10 years because of battery issues guaranteed. Not because of anything nefarious its just the tech is in the batteries keep getting better. Backwards compatibility would be great but the tool company has no financial incentive to do so when then can sell you brand new tools.
@GazMatic2 жыл бұрын
Same here. One thing they have thought about is getting people stuck in their ecosystem. I buy the same brand just because I already have the batteries
@kd4pba2 жыл бұрын
You will always go far with honest scientific testing. This channel is pure gold for the consumer.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@AJ-ln4sm2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the manufacturers have put more effort into improving the cordless tools than the old technology corded ones. Good video!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@ConstantlyDamaged2 жыл бұрын
There's also the restriction that for a mains tool to use brushless motors, they'd have to first convert the power to DC and bring down the voltage. That kind of circuitry is both expensive and bulky. They use cheaper AC motors in the tools (that don't have the same features as high power DC ones) instead. With cordless tools, your mains step-down hardware is all handled in the charger, a central device that you only need one of.
@ethansprojects73992 жыл бұрын
@@ConstantlyDamaged why must they bring down the voltage? If anything rectifying the ac should raise the voltage because the capacitor used in rectification.
@Sevalecan2 жыл бұрын
@Damaged I do not believe your assertion is correct. A brushless DC motor in a given tool will be wound with the given supply voltage in mind. In the case for battery powered tools, typically anywhere from 18 to 60V being your bridge voltage depending on what you've got. There are some brushless corded tools being released by manufacturers such as DeWalt's DWE43240VS , though mine has been on backorder for 2 months because I don't want to be extorted by Grainger to get it sooner. I'd like to verify some of the design elements in it, but I don't have it. Having said that, a BLDC motor can be wound with a higher DC bridge voltage in mind, making it possible to drive such a motor from a rectified AC->DC converter with no DC to DC voltage conversion being involved. The inverter(Part of any BLDC system) will then simply change its PWM duty cycle as it drives the motor phases to control current, which will control torque, which will control speed with the assistance of some feedback (motor position preferably for speed, but depends on implementation... and current sensing for the other primary feedback signal). The manufacturers have just been pushing this battery crap on us as hard as they can, so it's more a function of R&D not being directed toward corded tools. Corded impacts tend to have pitiful torque ratings compared to their battery powered counterparts, for instance.
@YDCFF_2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the corded saws were categorized by HP. Then they went to amps. It sounds crazy, but one of those old school HP rated circular saws will run circles around this new stuff. I had to make an 18' long stringer for an old victorian home I was remodeling. No One had a piece of oak 16" wide and 20' feet long. Finally my customer found one at an old redneck saw mill in the middle of nowhere. It was rough cut. Literally a slab cut off of a massive oak tree. It was about 2 1/2" thick and uneven widths. I had to make a straight piece out of it. My customer had a big table saw. (mine was at home in the shop). We tried to run it through it and it bogged the motor down. I got out my old school circular saw. He looked at me like I was nuts. He said you can't use that if it bogged down my table saw. We struck two lines (one on each side.) That old saw cut through that oak like butter. He was tripping. I then had to plane it, sand it, stain it and varnish it. It came out beautiful. My customer gave me a $500 tip when I finished that stair case.
@deletdis61732 жыл бұрын
Every Sunday morning before Todd posts a new video, I find myself watching his old ones to pass the time.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!!
@MyWasteOfTime2 жыл бұрын
Each tool has its place. I select Corded tools when I have a lot of cutting/work to do so I don't have to keep changing batteries. Also, Corded drills always cut the same unlike battery tools when the battery gets low. Thank you!
@CommodoreFan642 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%, and another advantage of corded tools is if you only use your tools on occasion you don't have to wait for the batteries charge up, or worry about if they have gone bad on you having set around, just get an extension cord, and get to work, plus overall corded tools are cheaper to buy if you are putting a garage/workshop together on a budget.
@tonysheerness24272 жыл бұрын
Also if you only do something now and then not often corded tools are better always on hand and always work. Battery tools tools are good if you use them a lot and have more than one battery.
@busaj3832 жыл бұрын
Buy extra batteries and you'll be good. Yes, they are expensive but I have a job and my convenience of not moving a cord around things is well worth any amount I need to pay 😉 Good luck to U out there! 👍
@chubbyjohnson54802 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Like that taco kid said, why can't we have both?
@jaynelson41752 жыл бұрын
I like cordless because when you release the trigger it stops very quickly. I've broken a few drill bits with a corded drill (tried to break my wrist).
@AdamPlacek2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see different wire connector tests (wago 221’s, traditional wire nuts, etc.) Thank you for such thorough reviews! Keep up the great work.
@porterfielddynamics2 жыл бұрын
Definitely second this.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@NiHaoMike642 жыл бұрын
Great Scott already did it.
@Wowzersdude-k5c2 жыл бұрын
Several people on KZbin have already done comprehensive tests (Great Scott did it and another guy did as well). Both tests were exactly the same. Wire nuts give less wire resistance than any of the other connectors (the wire heats up less and less power is lost as heat). However, all three types of connectors are legal under the NEC, so it will be up to your local codes or who you're working for.
@peterboyne68712 жыл бұрын
What about a showdown between the battery chainsaws, string trimmers, and lawnmowers vs the gas ones? That would be interesting.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!! Thank you
@Jorian11072 жыл бұрын
Yes, great idea! Replying to get behind this idea and have it go to the top! ;-)
@Doc__Vegapunk2 жыл бұрын
Been hoping for a string trimmer video. I need to buy one soon, and I don't like to purchase tools without consulting this channel first 😂
@lewiemcneely91432 жыл бұрын
@@Doc__Vegapunk He just did one on string trimmers.
@HariSeldon9132 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I'm surprised you didn't compare the maximum run times between the cordless and corded tools. 😺
@peterallen46052 жыл бұрын
The big test for me on most of these tools is how they will compare in 10 years. The cordless will be near useless unless I get a replacement battery, and that assumes that they haven't moved on to a different style of battery by then. The corded one will still work.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@dwayne73562 жыл бұрын
I have corded tools that are 30 years old. I have gone through 4 cordless drill, mostly because of needing battery replacements. I prefer corded for this reason since I am a DYIer and not a professional using these daily.
@bigdanwess2 жыл бұрын
@Peter Allen : Exactly my thought !
@neoasura2 жыл бұрын
This right here, when I got on my own back in 2009 I bought cordless power tools, but they were still Ni-Cad, of course a year later Lithium Ion came out, I couldn't afford to replace my tools, eventually all my NiCad tools crapped out. My dad on the other hand still chugging away with his power tools that all have to be plugged in..tools that are 40 years old. I went all corded since. Aside from my Impact Driver since I use that solely for portable jobs.
@BL-yj2wp2 жыл бұрын
@@neoasura In 2009 lithium ion power tools were around, but even those weren't close to what they are today. And they were expensive compared to today.
@tiredoldmechanic17912 жыл бұрын
Todd has figured out the perfect way to acquire all of the tools without having to justify it to his wife.
@deadringer23492 жыл бұрын
Yep. Just pull out the "for educational purposes" card.
@TheTheRandomShow12342 жыл бұрын
I don't think his wife's complaining considering the revenue this guy makes is close to a million a year
@deadringer23492 жыл бұрын
I think the joke went over your head.
@simon-pierrelussier27752 жыл бұрын
It's for science!
@meikgeik2 жыл бұрын
Or learn to respect your wife. If it feels like a constant battle over funds, you're probably doing something wrong. Split bank accounts + a joint bank account for bills works wonders.
@dingledingle689610 ай бұрын
I base all of my tool buying decisions off of your videos. Seriously the most useful channel on KZbin.
@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@thegrimmperspective2 жыл бұрын
An expensive round of testing!! Kudos to Project Farm for their dedicated research.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@keithwilliams23532 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Are there any examples where a corded device exists in the same price bracket as the cost of a cordless device + battery? I would like to see that comparison and I feel it would be more fair than comparing the devices at a set price point and treating the battery cost as a separate thing. Part of the price of the cordless device is the manufacturers assumption that you will be buying their battery, and its pretty obvious there is a lot of margin baked into the cost of these battery packs.
@AndrewHague142 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately its just not like for like as per the purpose of the video. Most tool brands now have a dedicated range that is corded tool power in a cordless version - in this video dual 18V Makita ,however in the angle grinder test for example a 800w cordless vs a 1342watt machine or 1.8 horsepower makes it an irrelevant test and as such the results showed. If the flex volt cordless grinder was used it would be far more comparable at circa 1500w. Same in the multitool test, the brushless rigid model would perform more comparable to the corded one in this test. He does do a great job overall but some of these inconsistencies can be a tad misleading, just something to consider before drawing any conclusions.
@MarksTech2 жыл бұрын
the amount of work this guy goes through is mind-blowing. to be honest, I dont even care about power tools but I still stayed and watched the entire video lmao. its always interesting. thanks!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@timswanson91522 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer corded angle grinders for zip cutting metal with the power that they have. I also like the capability of cordless when working on site
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@blackwidowsm2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree grinders need accorded power for peak cutting and grinding amps he. Cordless simply don’t last in real work environment uses. I have both. My favorite in a 1966 model that’s now illegal on most job sites it’s it’s so industrialized strong made of heavy duty metals no plastics in this than again takes a lot of strength to use it. But for heavy duty jobs nothing can keep up with it. The cordless one I love the dewalt and it’s light enough my daughter uses it. Hint she can’t carry the 1966 model 😂 I admire her effort to be like dad. Lol dewalt an outstanding cordless jyst no cordless is equivalent to a corded tool for stamina. Batteries die electricity is consistent.
@minastzannetos56192 жыл бұрын
@@blackwidowsm pop
@DavidStapley09822 жыл бұрын
I own both an old school 15 amp metabo and a Milwaukee cordless one. Plenty of torque with the Milwaukee the only thing is the battery does eventually run out.
@helloman36762 жыл бұрын
@@DavidStapley0982 Thats why you have multiple batteries....
@InCountry69702 жыл бұрын
I have watched many of your in depth reviews of products over the years and they are great. I am only disappointed that you don't have your own review channel on TV, they are that entertaining.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Thanks for the feedback.
@stevekovacs40932 жыл бұрын
I have a 3/8 variable speed reversing drill by Milwaukee. It's corded, and it was purchased in 1978. I have replaced the trigger and power cord. It still works just fine for driving screws. I can't tell you how many cordless vsr drills I've bought and thrown away over the years, the main reason being battery obsolescence and tool quality. I still use my Dewalt cordless tools all the time, but I doubt they'll be around in another 40 years, but I bet the old Milwaukee will be.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@ericharris8932 жыл бұрын
Correct
@BitSmythe2 жыл бұрын
Steve, try the Ridgid. Fabulous power, and you can’t beat the Lifetime Guarantee - batteries included. Oh, and it has a 1/2” chuck. You’ll never appreciate driving screws more, especially NOT having to drag an extension cord up a ladder.
@patcb8292 жыл бұрын
I would just like to add that corded tools can be found at garage sales, marketplace, craigslist, etc for pennies on the dollar in good shape. Keep up the great work.
@feedbackzaloop2 жыл бұрын
Cordless from 10 years ago are not expensive too. And there are inexpensive off-brand batteries for them as well
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@ronblack78702 жыл бұрын
@@feedbackzaloop those are not lithium ion but nicad. those really suck.
@feedbackzaloop2 жыл бұрын
@@ronblack7870 NiCd are good for those under 10 bucks they are sold for. But still, there were li-ion already. Still have a couple of 12v Bosch from 2009 (compatible with recent batteries, of course)
@patcb8292 жыл бұрын
@@feedbackzaloop Very true and cross platform battery adaptors are available online as well.
@Dansk552 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this. I personally prefer corded for demanding tools like air blowers, sanders, etc cause batteries are expensive in the long term. But impact wrench and drill definitely battery. Edit : the 10amp or more on corded was useful info too
@redlinegme5932 жыл бұрын
For home, battery. I'm lazy as hell, I take out a battery powered tool much sooner. No cable, extender, outlet searching... Click, do, forget. In work however, we need punch, we usually already have a power source nearby, so mostly corded.
@annihilator40002 жыл бұрын
@@redlinegme593 absolutely. I've procrastinated small home jobs because I didn't want to go get a cord and deal with it.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@ronblack78702 жыл бұрын
impact wrench for serious torque i always go air.
@Dansk552 жыл бұрын
@@ronblack7870 Yeah no doubt. Air is king for max torque. Especially Astro Onyx THOR in 3/8 or larger line
@mike-drums-maine2 жыл бұрын
I have a new appreciation for your channel due to the [NO SPONSOR] production. Most all channels are choosing to give their own infomercial for 2 to 5 min. during the video post. Bad enough that KZbin runs additional adds. A+
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lonewanderer36032 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting test and shows how far the tech has come in the last 20 years. Even if the corded tools had won every test though, it wouldn't really matter because many of the job sites I go to don't have any power or there's only one spider box for everybody to share. I remember the old days of running 100's of feet of extension cords or air hoses. What a nightmare. Now we even have cordless compressors if a guy wants to run air tools, but I switched to airless nailers long ago and will never go back.
@iwinrar52072 жыл бұрын
I don't want a box full of spiders.... Just set it on fire.
@jonathanb19872 жыл бұрын
@@iwinrar5207 🤣
@D-B-Cooper2 жыл бұрын
You still need to charge.
@HobbyOrganist2 жыл бұрын
@@D-B-Cooper You can do that with a small portable generator or even solar panel
@ClarkeSLR2 жыл бұрын
exactly.....when I first started, I was debating corded or cordless. Both have their merit. However, cordless tools are a must for me for the same exact reason you mentioned. I would have lost many job opportunities and generator noise and fumes in enclosed areas is a no for me
@jackmacphail53242 жыл бұрын
You are a legend Todd… another great video, with meticulous research and effort put into the end result. I truly believe you are the most accurate and entertaining tool review channel out there. Keep up the good work. Watching from Prince Edward Island, Canada.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@CrippledEagle2 жыл бұрын
Cordless tools are so much more handy than corded in so many cases. Anyone who has climbed a ladder with a corded tool knows the frustration of having the cord come apart as one gets in position to utilize it. With battery technology advances the ability to use battery powered tools a real plus. When I started building housing with Habitat for Humanity I bought my first battery powered drill, a DeWalt 14 volt which one needed multiple batteries. Nowadays I keep a couple of 20 volt batteries for my 1/2” impact and my 1/4” impacts. I still use corded for building things on my sawhorses where I don’t have to carry up a ladder. Great video!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Great feedback! Thank you
@1pcfred2 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to tie the extension cord to the tool. You don't count on the plug holding things together. What's the matter with you! You tie cords off.
@lanedexter63032 жыл бұрын
Wow, thought provoking comparisons! Thanks. My cordless 7-1/4” saw can’t match the power of the worm drive I bought in 1977, but it’s easier to carry and very handy when there’s no power nearby. Both types of drill motors have their uses. “Obsolete” older corded drill motors are cheap, and very handy for wire wheels, flap wheels, etc. The cordless spends more time driving screws and even mixing paint than it does drilling holes. I have corded tools from the 60’s, the 70’s and the 80’s. I wonder if any of my cordless tools will last 50 years.🙄
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@phoxpharms2 жыл бұрын
I can't get my cordless tools to last 5-10years let alone 50. Nothing is made to last forever anymore. Now that we let China make everything, 1 year is a win.
@Max_Arjona2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see how the corded adapter for dewalt’s cordless tools compares to a true corded tool and a cordless with a battery.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@mobilePCreviews2 жыл бұрын
check out torque test channel, they tested this already
@deuswulf61932 жыл бұрын
I been wondering why they never had those, and with your comment I realize they did finally add such an attachment. Seems like a logical choice over the old corded options.
@dougc.39982 жыл бұрын
Great show, I don't use a cordless tool often enough to justify a large difference in the price of my tools. What you showed me is some of the cordless tools are worth buying over the corded models. What is also an expense that was not discussed, was the price of extra batteries and how often they need to be replaced when they have reached the end of their service life, for that reason I usually go for the corded tools. I got burned when the Milwaukie 18-volt tools went to a new style of lithium battery and would not work on the older models. I also like the older corded models because you can find them at yard/garage sales, and they work as well as the newer tools for pennies on the dollar.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@ryankorte86012 жыл бұрын
I'd bet by this stage in the game, you have accrued a collection of power tools that is second-to-none, and many would consider "very impressive!!" 😄
@BitSmythe2 жыл бұрын
True, sir…. But many of them have been destroyed by the others. And a great pile of material for recycling LOL. I think next he might review storage sheds.
@leukemia32462 жыл бұрын
probably returns them the next day
@surveyingfleaproductions2 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite channels! Raw tests and Data, presented in a way any layman can understand. You sir, are awesome. Thank you for taking the time to create these videos. Hope you thrive
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@rcl35142 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed is that when you were comparing sawzalls, the battery operated one, the shoe was coming off the 4x4. That could account for longer cutting times also, as the throw length would be reduced, since the saw is now vibrating, (instead of being steady on the 4x4) along with the throw. It also almost seemed like the blade was catching or having a hard time on the nails, which is when I noticed the shoe come off the wood, and the downward movement slowed, until the nail was cut. The corded saw, looked very smooth and steady by comparison.
@dzydvl762 жыл бұрын
I saw the same thing, the other thing I noticed is the angle changed when the show bounce happens.
@colbywood81132 жыл бұрын
He also compared a regular Sawzall to a Super Sawzall so not exactly the same too
@wildwildwilly912 жыл бұрын
Really think he could keep the shoe 1 32nd of an inch off the 4x4 like that if he tried. The shoe was being pushed off. The corded super has a ton more torque, that will keep that thing steady. Not a corded guy either just saying.
@xXRacer9000Xx2 жыл бұрын
this is completely true, you have to push "in" with a sawzall to get a good cut. if that shoe is not firm against whatever you are cutting, than it doesn't work too well. the downward force isn't as important as keeping that shoe against the material.
@MapleMan19842 жыл бұрын
@@colbywood8113 the price
@gernhartreinholzen39922 жыл бұрын
An important fact, that is often missed is at these tests, always new and fully charged batteries are used, but they don't stay that way when using them. And if you forgot to charge them, you can't use the tool at all for hours. When using corded tools, you always have 100% power.
@MattTrevett2 жыл бұрын
This is really an excellent point. The speed and torque of battery tools is highly dependent on voltage, which drops in a linear fashion until near the end of battery life.
@Naeromusic2 жыл бұрын
But at the cost of portability though
@aaronwalker25882 жыл бұрын
By hours you mean half an hour right?
@jamie-ck6js2 жыл бұрын
Surely if you are planning some DIY or are a professional having a charged battery is just part of the preparation? I mainly have corded tools, but I specifically purchased by cordless Hitachi driver where the battery has very low self discharge so can sit in the cupboard for literally years and is ready to go when I need it.
@hakont.49602 жыл бұрын
Several hour charging time dates back to before lithium batteries were common, more than a decade ago. A lithium battery can reliably be charged in much less than an hour, certainly won't take several hours. Battery powered tools aren't always ideal though, I'll agree to that. For driving screws and light cutting my battery drill and battery circular saw are ideal. For heavier cutting or just cutting a lot in general I prefer my corded saws. For metal drilling you can't beat a good old corded drill press.
@harleyjones52002 жыл бұрын
Its been my theory for a while that many manufacturers have shifted almost all of their R&D and innovation to their cordless lines while basically just rebadging their older corded gear with the new years shapes and decals etc. Its incredible how far cordless tools have come over the last 5-6 years.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@bekanav2 жыл бұрын
Corded tools are finished products. I have several from 1960's: Metabo circular saw, high torque drills (AEG, B&D, Metabo), B&D sheet metal cutter etc. Metabo saw was first used by my grandfather, then my father (both professionally) and now I use it. The quality of that time German tools is unsurpassable: full aluminium body, second plastic cover inside that (for full electric insulation), protection against over heating, oil filled gearbox (yes, you can change gearbox oil), big ball bearings for durability, very finely balanced for minimal vibration, fully epoxy coated wiring inside the motor, thick rubber cable etc
@sunn_bass2 жыл бұрын
It's not just a theory. I read an article a couple years ago saying most R&D is going into cordless because that's where the market is going.
@actionjksn2 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing R&D has completely quit on most corded tools and it started years ago. If you had corded and battery operated with equal engineering those battery tools would get smoked by the corded ones.
@ZE0XE02 жыл бұрын
thats almost certainly what's happening. Theres no reason with as many amps and volts as a wall outlet can provide that a corded tool should be weaker than a battery powered tool. Any difference in power in the corded tool is clearly due to lazyness on the manufacturers part.
@gora8762 жыл бұрын
This generation and perhaps the next couple generations owes you a lot. You are a beacon. You are what Dept. of Consumer Affairs should have been in the first place.Take a bow. 🙏🙏🙏
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Bensam1232 жыл бұрын
Definitely looks like manufacturers are focusing more on cordless tools instead of corded ones. The margins are much higher when you're selling $100-200 battery packs which can be just as expensive as the tools, in addition to the tool, so they put more effort into them. One thing that wasn't covered in the video is endurance. I'm sure this is a no brainer for a lot of people, but if you're working on a construction site, tools will be used for prolonged periods of time which means battery endurance really matters. Lithium is pretty good at delivering full performance right until it runs out of juice, however if there is a loss in performance over time with the battery, or if the batteries overheat during extended cuts/grinds/usage, it will really detract from it's value.
@LC-hd5dc2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly why i never buy batteries from the manufacturer, far more cost effective to "roll my own"
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@LordSaliss2 жыл бұрын
Not just endurance of use, but also longevity of the equipment. I still have quite a few corded tools because I really hate buying a new battery or two every 2 years because the cells are wearing out and only last 10 minutes of use by that point. It really adds to the cost when replacing batteries instead of just getting a corded tool out down the line and not having to worry about a thing The only battery tools I keep around are a ratchet and a drill, because those tend to be things I care enough about the quick ease of use to justify.
@AFriedChicken2 жыл бұрын
Client I just did a job for bought a battery operated lawnmower (green and black but I don't think it was Ryobi). $350 for one of those batteries. He said he got around 2 hrs out of it, called, complained, they sent him another and said to throw the initial one away.
@jaklumen2 жыл бұрын
@@AFriedChicken Greenworks, maybe?
@mrallan80632 жыл бұрын
Yup. Your closing statement says it all... if you are close to an outlet, corded is ok... but if away from an outlet, battery is best. Just like a desktop computer vs a notebook... corded is generally better, but cordless wins on mobility. If I could can buy only one tool, cordless is my first choice.
@feraldog55902 жыл бұрын
Also depends how long I'll be using the tool. The longer you use it, the weaker the battery gets, corded is better even when not close to an outlet if you plan to use it all day or even a lot of cuts/holes/grinding
@bonedaddy332 жыл бұрын
Id much rather use a desktop computer
@svenjorgensenn84182 жыл бұрын
Batteries are expensive
@FieryWACO2 жыл бұрын
@@svenjorgensenn8418 And toxic
@altokers2 жыл бұрын
eh completely depends on what you're doing. If it's a big job with access to power i'd never bother with battery tools (drills being the exception) You're not going to see battery powered miter and table saws at construction sites.
@jaywest41022 жыл бұрын
Can you please test gasket makers and Different gasket materials?
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@BattlestarCanada2 жыл бұрын
Yes. This would be helpful for sure!
@liamwinter45122 жыл бұрын
Leather gaskets and cork would be interesting
@danky-_-stanky45002 жыл бұрын
I’d like this as well! 😁
@billynomates9202 жыл бұрын
yes. great idea! 👍👍👍 sealing / gasketing is one of those horrible, messy and usually fairly urgent diy tasks that if you get wrong, the consequences are even worse and you have to start over with what little gunk you have left from before. i'm gonna stop now because there are too many double-entendres but a good video suggestion. 😉😲
@buidelrat1322 жыл бұрын
If you ever have a garage sale for your old equipment I'd definitely be there 😉 Your tool collection must be massive by now! Thanks for all the tests! 💚
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Actually what I don't save for future episodes I donate in my community. You are welcome!
@RentonFree2 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Wow, this guy is amazing!
@MAGAMAN2 жыл бұрын
For the Drill test it would have been nice to see a test using the drill as a drill, with something like a 1 inch auger bit. Corded drills are designed to be drills, not screwdrivers or impact wrenches, so seeing it doing what it was designed to do would have been nice.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@McBlazington2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. The corded doesn't have a clutch. I'd also be interested in comparing the hammer action of a corded vs cordless. I have a feeling the hammer action on the corded drill is much larger than the cordless.
@chrismader36892 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Something that makes a cordless drill better is the brake, even without anti-kickback they are more manageable if a bit binds up. I’ve got a corded Milwaukee that will put you into a death roll like an angry crocodile.
@giggiddy2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Me too with the Milwaukie. Enough torque to twist my arm right out of its socket if I'm not careful.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@1pcfred2 жыл бұрын
I have a big pipe on my triple reduction Milwaukee D handle HD drill. Because she's got a bit of torque to her.
@davidstreling36902 жыл бұрын
but that corded drill will go all day not the battery ones and not as strong
@EricLS2 жыл бұрын
My Milwaukee corded fuel about does the same thing, seems to be the nature of gear reduced high power drills.
@robohippy2 жыл бұрын
Never considered time to come to a stop. Of course the battery tools will stop more quickly. Makes me think of bandsaws with cast iron wheels that spin for a long time after turning the tool off. The good ones have brakes on them. For sure this would be a safety factor. Thanks!
@timrankin87372 жыл бұрын
I swear my 16 inch band saw takes 5 minutes to stop.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@rsbreeze2 жыл бұрын
@@timrankin8737 but its very satisfying to listen to that hum continue on and on.
@edewaal972 жыл бұрын
Not only safety, but less chance of damaging something. The angle grinder we have at home takes a long time for the blade to stop spinning. We have damaged our outside table and garage floor by putting the angle grinder down before the wheel stopped spinning.
@jmanbball2 жыл бұрын
Makita does make corded saws with an electric brake. This isn't exatly an apples to apples test.
@poulos341 Жыл бұрын
Love your work. Your summary at the end was perfect. Go with the corded tools if price is a factor, you will get similar output. If you need mobility and can pay a little extra get a cordless tool. And always use the right tool for the job, as per the geared vs single speed drill result. As a DIY/home user I buy corded for most tools to avoid having to buy and manage batteries.
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@marcogeraldis71172 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy answer in my opinion...corded last longer and stay consistent powerwise but cordless are more convenient but only for a shorter period
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Great point! Thank you
@WetDoggo2 жыл бұрын
Cordless is always more convenient, but cords exists for a reason. Headphones for example 😅
@dcmirk2 жыл бұрын
Did we watch the same video? Cordless have so many more improvements over corded. All the innovations are put into cordless, while corded have been made the same for 20 years.
@marcogeraldis71172 жыл бұрын
@@WetDoggo thats kinda what I was saying haha
@kylzepolaczkowaty21972 жыл бұрын
@@WetDoggo Bluetooth headphones and speakers
@TristanJCumpole2 жыл бұрын
I've always said that there's nothing really to settle in this debate. You choose the tool that is appropriate for the job and accept that differences are there, and that they actually represent advantages instead of "this is better than that". Corded wood routers are more stable than their battery equivalents, battery tools are safer if there is a chance of the tool getting wet. Pick your battle.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@kenfuciusfpv28002 жыл бұрын
I might have missed something, but I don't think routers were covered. Might be a good suggestion if they weren't.
@TristanJCumpole2 жыл бұрын
@@kenfuciusfpv2800 Illustrative examples, nothing more. The principle applies.
@kenfuciusfpv28002 жыл бұрын
@@TristanJCumpole well it seems that from Todd's tests things are decidedly better or worse than other things. It seems to be specific to which tools are being tested. Routers were not tested.
@TristanJCumpole2 жыл бұрын
@@kenfuciusfpv2800 Unwind a bit! This is about corded vs cordless.
@BobBlarneystone2 жыл бұрын
A cordless drill is one of greatest inventions of the 20th century, and my 9.6 DeWalt from '94 is still in use for my daughter. Other than that, I'd probably go with corded for many tools if line power is available, because cutting speed is not an important feature for me. And I speculate that the corded tools have not had many design upgrades that would make them comparable to cordless tools for some features. Also, except for the Ridgid brand (free battery replacement is included), all of the cordless tools will need batteries replaced at some point which can be a price factor too.
@TimberTrainer2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the tool tests are great, but I really appreciate the test tracks. Your attention to detail and pursuit of consistency is impressive.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kevinthompson23082 жыл бұрын
Since the cost of energy is the topic of the day, I was actually thinking just a few hours ago about the efficiency and cost to run between corded and cordless. I bought a hedge trimmer this morning at Home Repot. I opted for the 120 Volt AC model rather than a cordless. Saved a hundred bucks and I don't mind dragging a cord around since it will be used only once a year. A hundred bucks saved can go to gasoline rather than a little convenience.
@lewiemcneely91432 жыл бұрын
Yes! A gallon and a half in the hand..................
@1pcfred2 жыл бұрын
Hedge trimmers are the nemesis of extension cords. They're practically made to cut them.
@kevinthompson23082 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred good point! I hadn't thought about that.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@lewiemcneely91432 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I had one for the Echo convertible that the son-in-law now has. It worked FINE as long as we had a hedge. Took it out for a geezer ramp. Progress?
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty amazing just how good battery stuff has gotten in the last 10 years. Thanks for the great work.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@drew53342 жыл бұрын
One benefit of corded tools is they're a bit of a pain to move around the jobsite, which actually encourages you to work more efficiently by setting up your work space efficiently, and working systematically by making all your cuts in one location before moving onto the next With the ease of moving around with cordless tools, I've found that sometimes it actually leads to a lot of wasted movement because you can move from task to task without finishing up one. The freedom is obviously super handy in many cases though, just an interesting thing I noticed. Also, the durability, cost, and the ease of repair of corded tools is UNMATCHED. So for workhorse tools, like skilsaws, sawalls, nailguns (pneumatic), vacuums, etc, I prefer corded. For impact drivers, drills, osc multitool, etc I prefer cordless.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@johnsmith-by3yg2 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
@Onlychillpodcast2 жыл бұрын
Maneuverability should’ve also been a key factor for tools like the sawzall, jigsaw, and angle grinder, not to mention workplace environment is a whole ton better then having plenty of cords all over the place
@WHSHAFT2 жыл бұрын
You have always done a good job testing tools, but I feel on these test you took it to a whole new level of professionalism. A++ Always love your content...
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Meatwad.Baggins2 жыл бұрын
I have used about every angle grinder out there and I have to say I still get more work done with the corded grinder when paired with a hard wheel, flap wheel, paint remover, and wire wheel. However as far as cutoff wheels go, which account for 90 percent of my shops injuries, I have not had a single injury with my battery powered grinders. That 11,000 rpm dewalt grinder you used is banned from my shop because I find it to be too fast for cutoff wheels. I have seen it explode a new cutoff wheel by simply turning it on.
@MAGAMAN2 жыл бұрын
Stop buying your cutoff wheels at harbor freight?
@Meatwad.Baggins2 жыл бұрын
@@MAGAMAN Lol. I dont buy them from harbor freight. I buy them from a welding supply store. The point is that after tens of thousands of cutoff wheels the only one to explode without ever touching materials exploded on the highest rpm grinder that I have ever owned. I dont think it was a pure coincidence. This is the only time I tossed an angle grinder injury to error in manufacturing of an abrasive. And i probably wouldnt have arrived at that conclusion if i dodnt see it for myself. I think that after you consider error in manufacturing and error in tool operation the margin of allowable error is reduced as rpm increases.
@Original_Old_Farmer2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the tool industry has changed over the years with what is being offered. Maybe compare corded plastic tools with the corded metal body tools of the 50s. I have a Sunbeam hand drill that will rip your hand off with all the torq it provides. It's a standard size, a typical DIY tool. That's why, when I can find them at garage sales I will pick up the metal body power tools for use in the shop. It isn't hard to replace the brushes in motors.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@robertliskey4202 жыл бұрын
A little note they still make pro grade you just have to go to a pro tool store I have one where I live the first thing you notice is where they are made. Example a Bosch jig saw big box China mine Switzerland.
@FJ80Coop2 жыл бұрын
I've got an ancient Craftsman power drill that'll break a mans wrist in a flash if he isn't careful..
@toddac612 жыл бұрын
If you want a drill I am going through my fathers estate and he had a sears metal drill with a strap on drill press adapter and probably a few more old tools also if I can ever dig them out.
@Original_Old_Farmer2 жыл бұрын
@@toddac61 Thanks for the offer. I think my wife will do a bit more than a frown if I actually bought another drill, I've got about 6. Thanks again for the offer. Be safe.
@pev_2 жыл бұрын
You must have a BIG warehouse to store all the tools that you have got for these videos over many years :) Anyhow, these test videos or yours are very well thought out and a joy to watch, thank you!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Actually what I don't save for future episodes I donate in my community.
@paulsparrow5276 Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarme
@brettjohnson7912 жыл бұрын
Looking at that Makita corded saw; it looks like R&D (and design updates) on it ended 20 year ago. The cordless model looks contemporary. I wonder if the corded saw would have done better if some of the new tech developed for the cordless saw had been applied to it too.
@tachometer742 жыл бұрын
It seems the cordless ones, generally speaking, had more modern designs + bells & whistles.
@BigMeechie3042 жыл бұрын
Good point, cordless had brushless motor, corded had brushed... That is a big difference. Not sure if they make corded brushless saws.
@yung_sirloin2 жыл бұрын
yeah most of the corded ones were just straight up missing features the cordless ones had.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for he feedback.
@chris7465684622 жыл бұрын
There are some AC tools that have brushless motors. But any tool manufacturer is going to R&D the shit out of cordless purely for the fact that the customer can come back and buy more tools that use the same battery.
@MrSteak2 жыл бұрын
Always finding tests I didn't know I NEEDED to see!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MrSteak2 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Had another video idea... Shoe or Boot insoles. Watching "FP Insoles" and various other gel, foam, leather, and custom insoles being reviewed. But nobody comes close to your rigorous tests.
@frankievassallo5522 жыл бұрын
corded power tools typically have higher torque than cordless ones. While that may not matter for some projects, it can make a difference when you get into cutting applications. Unlimited operation: Electric power tools can run forever, so long as there's a working outlet or generator.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@joshuamaserow2 жыл бұрын
Not forever. Lots of brushed power tools get very hot (and many people say theirs have fried) if you run them too long and they get too hot. Corded tools are almost always brushed motors which are inefficient and produce a lot of heat. I've experienced it with all sorts of tools, rotary tools (dremel (gets extremely hot), ryobi) vacuum cleaner, bent sander, hammer drill, jig saw etc etc. Literally every type of corded tool will suffer from this due to the technology unless the manufacturer really optimizes the internal cooling fan and thermal design to expel heat as fast as its generated. But that seems hard for manufacturers to do. Either that or they only engineer them for intermittent duty. Either way you simply can't say that corded tools can run forever. Its a dramatic over generalization and false for probably most corded tools that exist. Its such a problem that I actually own more than one of a certain type of corded tool (and try different brands) so that when one is too hot and needs a break to cool down, I can use the other one. Aiming a powerful fan at the tool definitely helps. Either way heat is the huge corded tool problem that you have overlooked. Not only power. Brushless cordless tools (assuming same quality) will likely outlast corded tools. You're really worried about batteries... But only some brands charge ripoff prices for batteries. There are lots of brands to choose from. There are also battery adapters to run tools with batteries from other brands. (Which can give all the safety, battery longevity and convenience with the right combinations vs battery brand x with tool brand x) Ryobi has also upgraded their battery tech, so now they offer lithium batteries for their tools that were designed to run on NiCd. And when new future battery tech emerges, it will be possible to run it on some present day tools. Also there are corded power adapters for cordless tools. So you can have the best in thermal/energy efficiency, comfort (vibration heat and noise), torque, run time, portability. I see comments like yours as closed minded just wanting to justify your fears of trying new tech. I've got lots of corded and cordless power tools. I like the cordless ones more. Even the brushed variety. Ultimately its not so simple to say the one is better than the other. Everyone has different needs and budget and goals etc. But if one were forced to generalize, then absolutely cordless is better than corded. Blade stopping time just popped into my head. All the latest and greatest engineering goes into cordless. Why try to swim against the current? You're only tiring yourself out for nothing. Open your mind and you will suffer less.
@frankievassallo5522 жыл бұрын
@@joshuamaserow My friend you misunderstood the The Project Farm or my comment. The Topic is Corded power tools. Not brush or brushless power tools. Thanks for your feedback.
@wooddoug12 жыл бұрын
@@joshuamaserow I disagree. I operated Makita skill saws on high production framing jobs for many years, sometimes cutting rafters virtually nonstop for hours. Not once have I ever had a circular saw shut down or smoke
@IMPACT-NATION2 жыл бұрын
Best Tool Tester in the WORLD!!! Amazing how far technology has advanced into the power tool industry. I love the comparisons and all the valuable information your content provides. You take informed buying decisions to a whole different level Todd. Thank you for your heartfelt response. It was tough to read through the whole thing without taking a moment. It meant a lot. Thank you Todd Brandon S
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@johnswartley71042 жыл бұрын
Love the content. If I were to add my own two cents as a full time carpenter it would be that at this point any power differences between corded and cordless are irrelevant for me. Dewalt flexvolt and other brands bigger batteries are completely sufficient for almost all purposes. The amount of time saved by having all cordless is what the real benefit for me is. Yeah batteries are expensive but they save time and hassle, and time is money. Not to mention cords can be pretty expensive too. I’m not sure how this could be realistically measured but I’d love to see the time comparison between corded and cordless setup.
@Apollyon672 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the safety aspect of not having extension cords laying across the workspace.
@bolasblancas4202 жыл бұрын
You’re right… time is money.
@danharold30872 жыл бұрын
I totally agree for the guy that uses his tools on the job. But for the occasional user the story is different. Why pay 2 or 3x for a tool that is going to be dead in 10 years.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter2 жыл бұрын
I guess you could just figure some averages into the equation. Cordless tools going directly into a toolbox are done right then and there. Unwrapping cords in the morning can take 15+ minutes. Later, wrapping up 3-5 50'-100' cords and then wrapping up the cords on the tools themselves can easily turn into 20 minutes. Cordless is a no brainer in a lot of ways. Also, with options like the Makita or metabo rear handle coming in ~$200, you're not spending much more than the $180 it costs for a Mag77 if you already have those battery platforms. They're also much lighter before you even include the cord snagging. Table saws kind of demand a cord, but even then, I do most of my trim work with the cordless DeWalt these days. I also run the cordless 8 1/2" Bosch miter saw and it performs better than my corded in terms of accuracy. Cordless finish guns are solid but cordless framers haven't quite taken over considering their weight. Just rambling.
@tomrogers94672 жыл бұрын
@@danharold3087 Buy Ridgid. They have a lifetime warranty on the tool and batteries. I’m on my third set of batteries in 15 years, all replaced free! Great company to deal with!
@fmike152 жыл бұрын
I lived in Europe where the normal household current is 220v 50hz. I remember the power tools there seemed a lot better than 120v tools. That would be an interesting comparison.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video idea.
@yogibarista28182 жыл бұрын
Yes - 110-120v is very much a North-American and Japan thing, and elsewhere 220-240v is the most common supply voltage.
@JustinShaedo2 жыл бұрын
Ditto for Australia's 240v
@LC-hd5dc2 жыл бұрын
slight misconception, there are 230v variants even in the us and you can have compliant 230v receptacles in your home too
@DiscoFang2 жыл бұрын
Here in New Zealand my larger hand-held Makita corded circular saw is 2300watts running on 240volts.
@Nevir2022 жыл бұрын
Imagine being this guy's neighbor: "Hey, can I borrow a drill?" "Sure, you can keep it too, I own 20+ of them and have several more on the way for my next test. Take an angle grinder and circular saw while you're at it I don't have the space!" LOL
@Colorado_Native2 жыл бұрын
"Yes, you can. Would you like a corded drill or a battery-powered one? Do you want a Makita, a DeWalt, a Ryobi, a Porter-Cable, a Hitachi, a Kobalt, a Milwaukee, a Craftsman, a Bosch, a Black + Decker, or a Makita? Did you want a 6 volt, a 7.2 volt, a 9.6 volt, a 12 volt, a 14.4 volt or an 18 volt? Do you want one made in China, Viet Nam, Germany, the United States .... Hey, come back, I said you could borrow a drill."
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@Nevir2022 жыл бұрын
@@Colorado_Native LMAO!
@thomasstrickland02 жыл бұрын
Personally I like having a corded backup. Especially when drilling. The battery just can’t keep up with what I’m trying to do.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@matthewmiller60682 жыл бұрын
I agree - it really depends what you need to do. Cordless drill will do small holes and screws all day long but put a hole saw or big spade bit and you chew thru batteries like they're going out of style. Also if you don't want to spend a small fortune, a corded $70 saw will outperform a cordless $70 brushed motor battery saw with ease.
@thomasstrickland02 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmiller6068 I agree. A hole saw is the drills worse nightmare. I use a 3 inch saw a lot it might get through one time, but you’ve gotta get it done seven more times well. It ain’t gonna happen.
@Subsonic-cd2en2 жыл бұрын
It would be even more interesting to see a test like this if tool manufacturers put the same time and money into engineering corded tools as they do cordless. I feel like corded tool design has remained unchanged for the last 20 years.
@erlendse2 жыл бұрын
Totally, doing a mains capable inverter would make them bigger (isolation required), while dealing with less voltage from a battery is easier(isolation optional). Especially if you want to include complex stuff (microcontroller, LEDs e.t.c.).
@ShotgunRocket2 жыл бұрын
It's probably pointless in the eyes of the manufacturer. There's more demand for cordless tools, even when they perform worse.
@ducewags2 жыл бұрын
@Subsonic1050 Corded tools have remained the same for well over 20 years. Unless you think corded tools were a new thing back in 2000?
@kentonmar66392 жыл бұрын
I've been in the metalwork trade for over 40 years. Have corded tools that are over 25 to 30 years old. Not much has changed for them. I have switched almost completely to cordless. Because many job sites have no or limited access to power. Not having to run a mile of extension cord sure save time. Cordless tool will never be as durable but way more portable.
@A6Legit2 жыл бұрын
What kind of engineering do you mean? Seems like the corded stuff is already dialed in and built to use the power available. I would love to see more engineering on the functionality/convenience side. I feel like the only engineering going on with cordless tools is the battery packs, and the performance improvements are simply due to higher output batteries. Eventually they may have to beef up their internals, but I get the feeling the last few generations of a lot of tools were probably the same components, just marketed with higher output batteries. Idk if I would say its pointless to tool companies, but im sure they would rather be raking in profits than spending money on R&D. Its kind of a shame though because it seems like many improvements could be made, and it wouldn't take a rocket scientist.
@Derrmo2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos and the test gear is fantastic, great job. With over 35 years experience using tools, I can honestly say that for a DIY home user the corded power tools are much better value. I have used all types over the years and I now buy corded tools because of simple economics - A battery for a power tool is almost as expensive as a whole new tool including battery. The only battery powered tools I now have are a 18v drill and a 20v torque wrench, all other power tools I have now are corded.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Uryendel2 жыл бұрын
If you work on your home next to electical cable, you can't use safely corded tool. And for battery, you can have one battery for multiple tools, the only issue is if the battery system become obsolete (would be great to get some legislation to standardize battery connector)
@ryanfluck4441 Жыл бұрын
The more you engage, comment/share/like the better a channel does. I've watched for 3+ years, I check this channel before I buy.
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chevalierdeloccident59492 жыл бұрын
I was afraid manufacturers would purposely under develop corded tools to sell us more batteries.
@SquintyGears Жыл бұрын
I mean the tests do show that. Not dramatically in cutting performance in most of these examples but all the quality of life and niceties are stripped out. Noise, vibration, breaks... But I'm not sure if I would blame them for trying to hit a price point. It's very likely that very very few people would buy a 250$ corded tool over a 300$ cordless one.
@danmar007 Жыл бұрын
They probably would if they owned battery companies.
@MrPicklesAndTea Жыл бұрын
@@SquintyGears I prefer corded tools for some applications, but things like, drills and leaf blowers are better off cordless. But I hate batteries with a passion so the fact that I prefer cordless in some cases is impressive.
@SquintyGears Жыл бұрын
@@MrPicklesAndTea yeah i never got the point of having a cordless circular saw for myself. contractors would probably benefit from it on a job site. but if you only use it at home or in your workshop space, how would you ever benefit from having to charge batteries.
@leanderhobb Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@zwing3002 жыл бұрын
After 28+ years as a Tradesman, the only cordless tools I buy now are 12v pocket Drills, and impacts. The corded tools just last longer, and are much cheaper.
@kw6713a2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention you can mix and match brands however works to save a few bucks or maximize quality. I suspect most who buy cordless hardly ever work more than a few feet from a working outlet.
@bertgrau39342 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a battery powered welder, does anyone build one of those?
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@nfocus2c2 жыл бұрын
MAN!!!....i think you hit it out the ball park with this one sir.....this was OUTSTANDING as a test subject......
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@randy52111 ай бұрын
Thank you PF for doing the things guys always wonder about
@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@CharlieRunnalls2 жыл бұрын
I love your no s#!+ straight to the point videos.. every second is always worth watching! Always fair tests and well made test rigs.. the effort you put in is much appreciated! They must take a long time to make and edit. Don't change a thing bud! 😁 Thank you 👌
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@thomasvlaskampiii68502 жыл бұрын
Once again, an impressive amount of top quality testing! Ya know, I wish quality control labs would do testing at this level. Instead of just "squeeze trigger, thing go brr, it pass"
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@luemn76912 жыл бұрын
The price aligns with the tools. Put the money and effort to refine the corded and it will outpace the cordless with omly the exception that it has a cord to power it. Still prefer the cordless unless you need to mix tile mud. Great video!!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Lee-lb9qh2 жыл бұрын
Lol they make a cordless mud mixer
@luemn76912 жыл бұрын
@@Lee-lb9qh there is but buying one to use it about 4 times is quite the peeve.
@brianedwards7802 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point, it’s obvious this guy knows what he’s doing. Thank you sir
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@3UZFE2 жыл бұрын
Cordless is for convenience with some performance loss, corded is clearly better and will work all day, and the tools likely have a decades long life span. Replacement batteries costs are the issue with cordless, Ive got a Bosch cordless grinder and the two batteries are already getting week after 3 years of occasional DIY use.
@thedyingtitan12472 жыл бұрын
Not always on very heavy tools in NA batteries can actually out perform wall plugs because they can deliver more power admittedly for a very short period of time. The best example of this is 3/4” and 1” impacts The batteries can on the large tools provide more power than a normal 15 amp wall socket can. That said you need to go yo the larger 40/60 volt tools to get this performance benefits
@gorkyd79122 жыл бұрын
Life span can be great for corded tools but there are quite a few that will definitely fail if you use them regularly. It's the same for battery tools but if you're a contractor or someone who uses tools every week chances are the thing will wear out within 5-10 years no matter what it is.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@samcooke27422 жыл бұрын
Tool longevity is an important factor for me. I don't wear out most of my tools - I still have the 6365 Milwaukee circ saw I bought new in 1976. It still works fine when you plug it in. No battery powered tool will last even ten years. I've had to toss my old 14.4v DeWalts - it was kinda sad. I don't think they'll be selling M18 batteries in 2050.
@kstofkos2 жыл бұрын
Fact! I completely agree with you. I prefer the corded tools. I got sick of replacing batteries that cost as much or more than the tool itself.
@1pcfred2 жыл бұрын
@@kstofkos corded is good if you have power. But battery power is convenient and portable.
@martinsvensson68842 жыл бұрын
Its good to have a corded in store. That will always work. But for everyday use I get one with a battery. Only for convenience.
@mr.g9372 жыл бұрын
No doubt you're paying more and more frequently too. But it's a cost/benefit question - it worth spending 4-5x more when you factor in longevity for the convenience of being able to take your tools anywhere? I and a lot of people would say yes.
@tomrogers94672 жыл бұрын
@@kstofkos Buy Ridgid. Lifetime warranty on batteries, no problem getting a replacement shipped to you. I’m on my third set in 15 years, all free!
@elky4x42 жыл бұрын
Your tests are by far the best and the rigs are pretty genius... just one critique of this video: the hammer drill. It's not a driver, it's a hammer drill. May be better to test hammer drilling though a concrete block or brick rather than lag driving torque
@CapnCrunchESO2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be honest, I’ll probably never buy any of the tools I see on your channel but I love watching to see what cool testing rigs you come up with!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@travisabt68052 жыл бұрын
Corded tools absolutely have their place! High velocity/high power consumption tools like routers and table/miter saws are much better to have corded since they eat batteries. I was always taught to buy corded tools used and cordless new! Great video!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MAGAMAN2 жыл бұрын
I only use cordless hand tools. Anything stationary is a waste of batteries and lacks power. If I am working somewhere that doesn't have power, I'll bring a generator to plug my corded tools into. You are going to need somewhere to charge your batteries anyway, if you are doing any real work. My Dewalt cordless circular saw can only cut through a handful of boards before the battery dies.
@kssarh2 жыл бұрын
I've always heard that one big advantage of cordless tools, is that at the high end, they are not limited by 1500W max draw. Curious if there are cordless tools out there at the contractor level that actually do take advantage of the much higher power ceiling of lithium batteries.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@ortzinator Жыл бұрын
Also AC motors are less efficient. So they may pull 1500W out of the wall but not all of that power is coming out of the other end
@hearohh2 жыл бұрын
PF is one of the few channels I get notifications for! Great work on your videos! I think a video on loppers would be cool
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! This means a lot to me!!
@thedude77262 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm same here. I always share your videos with my guys at the union
@scottbabineaux23442 жыл бұрын
im addicted to your videos man you do a great job
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Xamy-2 жыл бұрын
If it ever ends up being an option I would be interested in seeing some of the other major brands to see if the trend holds true across brands
@0Sirk02 жыл бұрын
Next march madness
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@wiredforstereo2 жыл бұрын
These recip saw tests suffer from not using them like the user does. I don't know about you, but I rock the recip saw up and down for better chip clearing. Same with the oscillating tools.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@cup_and_cone2 жыл бұрын
I think the lesson to learn here is that tool manufacturers are putting all their R&D and best technology into cordless, while corded tools haven't changed much and don't offer much in terms of features.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@franklong62692 жыл бұрын
Great video! A lot will depend on which corded tool that you compare with the cordless tools. I worked my way through college as a framing carpenter and that job puts power tools to the limit. We used Skill 77 worm drive saws, Milwaukee sawzalls and Makita 3/4" hammer drills. The Skill 77 is a beast, but I would burn out a motor every couple of years. Today's cordless tools are very good, but they will not perform under jobsite conditions for framing houses nearly as well as corded tools. The problem is not their power, the problem is their durability. As you use a cordless tool under max load conditions, the batteries drain very quickly. Typically, the motors on the corded tools are faster and more powerful. This aids the durability of these tools during 110 degree days when my saw handle got so hot, I could barely stand to pick it up because it burned my hand. Cordless tools just cannot stand up to this type of abusive use. Their motors burn out more quickly and their batteries fail in very hot or very cold conditions. Construction personnel do use cordless tools on the job, but usually for light work and convenience. Until new designs for more durable and powerful batteries enter the industry, corded tools will rule construction jobsites. For homeowners, cordless tools are fine and more convenient. I have a Fein multi-tool that is corded and it is far more powerful than any cordless multitool I have ever used. Also, it doesn't lose power like cordless multitools. The same is true for corded Skill 77 worm drive saws. There is no cordless replacement for them. Milwaukee just came out with a cordless worm drive saw, but I can almost guarantee that it will not keep up with a corded Skill 77 saw over an eight hour day, weeks and months on end. Even as bulletproof as the Skill 77 is, we could go through several saws a year. As battery technology improves the gap is closing between corded and cordless tools, but there is still a very wide gap in performance and durability. That will change over time and as you state in your video, for homeowner use, cordless tool are sufficient.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@zach.ny292 жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion: for the summer, compare different desk, tower, and box fans to see which is the most effective at cooling you down and moving air while not being super loud, power hungry, or expensive!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@patty1091092 жыл бұрын
Pretty good idea 👍
@conman1395 Жыл бұрын
Mattias already did this experiment
@Shorty_Lickens2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about hand tools but I do know one thing: Corded vacuum cleaners are MUCH more powerful than battery.
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@jwestrik93082 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the cordless ones suck...
@imnottellinudontwannaknow31882 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome comparison! Thank you for making these videos!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@ljwho99212 жыл бұрын
Having a blade break in a saw is great, I sometimes like to tie off my guard with some wire when it’s getting in the way… but then every time you finish a cut you gotta wait for the blade to stop before setting it down, so I’ve been loving the blade break feature as well as the rafter hooks that cordless saws are coming equipped with
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@MichaelLangell2 жыл бұрын
First off great video and I love how much effort you put into your test rigs to make the comparisons fair. Only thing I didn’t get about the video was the dewalt drill comparison. You used one of the weakest corded drills they make. There are several slightly larger ones that match the cordless one you used a lot better, bigger motor and different rpm rating.
@ryawhite14662 жыл бұрын
Loving this channel! Keep it up man!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Leron...2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Todd! If I could make one request, at a few points it was hard to distinguish when the audio said "corded" vs "cordless" since the sound so similar. Maybe next time you do something like this, do what you did in the graphs and say "corded" vs "battery powered" to add more distinction?
@MAsWorld12 жыл бұрын
Great Question! Cordless tools have come so far, it used to be their only advantage was No Cord!! Which is great for sure! Drill test wasn’t fair. Sawzalls: I have both tools, corded is stronger/faster but cordless is usually the one we all grab! Circular saws : corded are always more powerful. And we also use cordless chop saws which are super convenient but again much less powerful than corded. One last point: battery tools are throw-away items! once batteries are gone / obsolete they’re useless ( I’ve thrown away tons of them) if you wear them out first, no big deal, but if you’re a homeowner and don’t use your power tools that much, corded tools will be forever purchases!
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@TheFlick1752 жыл бұрын
A cord can be helpful because it also serves as a rope for lowering the tool and such, as stated by essential craftsman
@mysterious_codm68122 жыл бұрын
Use smaller size rope
@dariog36th2 жыл бұрын
Can you test out over the air TV antennas? Would like to see which one gets more channels, better reception etc.
@doctormdds2 жыл бұрын
Antenna Man does a good job on that.
@thecloneguyz2 жыл бұрын
Most antennas are pointless if you're in a valley or at the bottom of the hill
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@erlendse2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, there are inline amplifiers to have close to the antenna, filters e.t.c. you can use to affect final performance. A long cable can cost you many channels if you don't use a amplifier at the antenna! For shorter cabling the amplifiers are less interesting. Also all cable isn't equal, there are instruments for testing that if you are interested.
@kstofkos2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome, I bought an antenna and it was a waste of 20 bucks. Lol. I would love to see which one offers the best reception. I am still open to buying another and am willing to pay up to $250.00 for one that actually works.
@violinmiata2 жыл бұрын
Battery technology keeps getting better. It’s going to be interesting to see what comes after the lithium batteries. I do wish tool companies would make retro batteries for older tools. I have a Dewalt 9.6 that I’ve had since high school, the replacement batteries are remanufactured and are awful, it is a really nice and delicate tool, shame it’s useless now
@ProjectFarm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@borttorbbq25562 жыл бұрын
I mean a lot of companies will probably make it the very least doctors there is a huge market for adapters
@CarlosN472 жыл бұрын
They make battery adapters that sell on amazon
@corey63932 жыл бұрын
Your closing statement pretty much covers it. Different tools for different needs. Well done on this one. Thanks for doing what you do.