#56 Building a Wooden Frame in our sketchy Portuguese Ruin

[@joeeuston]

The term 'House of Cards' keeps coming to mind watching you try to fix this building.

[@stschubs]

I know a lot of people are anti keeping it all together, but I totally get it, as someone who has spent a lot of time keeping a barn that is somewhat rickety together and preserving what is already made. Doing unconventional actions will always be criticized, and you're doing what is most likely, also a great challenge. Sometimes the most sustainable action takes much longer and more effort than just...knocking down and building new. I really think it's cool that you're giving it a good shot!

[@christobar]

yeah this isn't sustainable, it's foolish. The upper part of the building is total junk, it's not worth saving. It has no redeeming value whatsoever.

[@martin_mue]

The original builder of this "organic" piece of construction was clearly an artist. Great job interpreting this piece of art. ;-)

[@DaDunge]

My gues sis it was done quickly for some reason, maybe when the orginal buiding was destroyed by a wildfire, i'm guessing the bulding needed replacing quickly so that the permit for it would not go away.

[@lawrencejlittle]

This was truly an exercise in futility!

[@SoIsYourFaceMate]

In my opinion take the L and write off the few days already worked on this upper section and deconstruct the top saving as many bricks as possible. Square/flatten/reinforce the bottom section and build a solid structure on top with the bricks more of a decoration instead of load bearing. Then again I'm just some internet guy engineering student.

[@DaDunge]

Those bricks are not of quality and condition to be used for buildings, they may find use of them for bulding other stuff but I would not use them for load bearing walls.

[@louise9973]

I agree, the end result would be beautiful and not have wood where you don't need to. Plus it takes up room. All this mucking about is crazy. It you're going to do a job like this do it right.

[@victorgoncalves2442]

This house was never meant for habitation purposes , was made for animal and storage purposes , that's why was badly done . I would knock down the top floor and re-use the bricks to make the walls more straight and sturdy , therefore safer . Not a negative criticism, just my opinion . I enjoyed watching the video ,waiting for the next one .

[@DaDunge]

They did mention one of their neighbours was born in this building. But I'm guessing they were born in the building that preceeded this one. The granite foundation seems to be the remains of an older much better built building. This building is much more recent I would guess 50-70s and seems to have been put up very quickly. My guess is that it was rebuild quickly so that a new building permoit would not be required for building.

[@JortsoftheJungle]

That was such a cool transition from the jumping in the water to the drone shot of yall on the beach

[@ryanmcewen415]

I think I would probably have just dismantled the entire upper floor and rebuilt it as a stick frame structure.

[@BloodSweatandGears]

I love the juxtaposition of the music and the reality of what we are seeing. Also, the term you can use for the afternoon nap due to the heat is a "Siesta".

[@jccastle3452]

Awesome video. I love the music selections. Thanks for sharing.

[@martinwyke]

The upper floor is still far too sketchy, especially above that partial concrete lintel. Cut out the cement with a Stihl to reclaim the blocks, then relay them with rebar ties around the corners. You really need a (volunteer) experienced bricklayer/builder who could sort this very quickly.

[@NezumiWorks]

As someone pointed out in an earlier video, a lot of that brick probably isn't viable for structure any more due to heat damage in the fires. But it would be excellent *decorative* brick in various places around the Kamp, or broken up as pathways or for drainage where needed.

[@DaDunge]

@@NezumiWorks It could aso be used for paving material, and for non load bearing purposes such as a birck oven or as walls for raised garden beds.

[@NezumiWorks]

@@DaDunge Walls for raised beds would look great, and I'm sure there are a lot of non-structural uses they could find all over the place.

[@sorij3560]

I will be keeping my eye on this one, good luck!

[@gorillax1374]

Makes me queasy to see you build on top of a masonry wall with so many cracks in it. Bracing it on top and bottom just doesn't cut it. If you're bent on leaving it up, have you considered reinforcing the interior surface with some kind of steel mesh attached at many locations with bolts, epoxy, or mortar?

[@cherylbonhomme9595]

Great video editing. Well done!

[@felipecafe1800]

I love this song of Sandy & Junior in the last cut

[@arjanvogel6444]

Thanks for your vid 😇💟💟💟 Love you all.

[@soilihenriksson3696]

I have never built a house, but I believe that trees inside keep up holding.

[@its_marc]

Love your reuse adapt and overcome ethos, full respect to you all. Stunning cinematography again aswell.

[@leticiadentz]

I miss Felix and his beautiful nature and doggy shots

[@TheSpiralnotizblock]

I like this weird angle. It’s more like a art house. That’s really cool

[@racebanning6390]

GREAT PROGRESS!!1... TAKE A BARREL OF WATER TO THE SITE IN SHADE TO COOL OFF, WEAR A SOMBRERO TOO.. HELPS TO WATER YURSELF DOWN.

[@joelmendes4506]

nice video. Keep in mind that if that ruin hadn't planning permission when was build it, you are rebuilding something that is illegal, meaning, the municipality can come and ask you guys to legalize it or demolish it. Btw, i would demolish those brick walls and rebuild as woodframe structure.

[@lukedarby6815]

Love this, well done for carrying on in the heat, early morning starts are the only answer. The 'lobster' is strong 🤩 😍

Hi guys, I am sorry to say this but you are making a mistake. I am a portuguese architect and I have worked at the urban department of project approvals at a city council and that project is in no way legal. That structure is all kinds of wrong. I currently have my own architecture and engineering studio and I see this all the time. I have clients coming from all over the world to settle in Portugal who are being sold properties where they cannot legally build or people who had dreams of building off grid settlements but that to do so requires a lot of adjustment and planning and they were not prepared for it. Also, Portugal has well documented fire safety regulations and fire zoning that exist for the safety of the public. But unfortunately I see a lot of expats coming here and building a lot illegally without any regard for safety codes, engineering stability projects and so on. We have a very complex building code (cumbersome I admit, but an excellent guide). We regulated everything, from thermal, to acoustics, to stability, water, etc. To get a building approved it's required about 10 different specialty engineering projects on top of the architecture project. Be very careful of what you build and how. You might end up being forced to demolish it to make it comply with our regulations and it would be a shame and a waste of your resources and time

[@PimpleJThomas]

off grid, off rules

[@brokkoliomg6103]

It doesn't really seem like the wood beams support the somewhat lousy brick wall. You have put the frame only inside of it with some minor connections to the wall at the top (and bottom?). If someone were to smash into that wall from inside, chances are still pretty high I would say that it breaks. Could be a breeding ground for a future accident. I agree with some other commenters that it may have been better to opt for total reconstruction of this upper building. Then again, that's up to you. There's just no sense for any possible building regulation on the countryside, eh? I kinda like that but it may get dangerous.

[@NezumiWorks]

I definitely wouldn't feel safe in about a 3m perimeter around that building, if we're being honest. The granite cellar is wonderful and they would do some really cool things in there like oldschool preserves, but the upper structure was probably never solid, even when it was first built.

[@LoyalTreeFriend]

Love watching you guys. But your wooden frame should be attached to the floorplate + supported from underneath on ground floor. Having a point load on the floor without support underneath is no good. But don't give up anyway!

[@RoseSolane]

This was a very good video, lots of great shots, good commentary, and even some puppies😁 Not sure about the validity of a wooden frame in this sketchy ruin, house of cards was coming to mind. But I am not an expert in building and it sure was fun to watch.

[@michellezevenaar]

Extended the roof out as far as possible. Extra shade will keep it cooler in summer

[@DaDunge]

Also keep the rain from runnign down unto the wall in the rainy period. It's why eas asian roofs are so big to keep the monsoon rain from the walls.

[@tayred81]

Portugal 🇵🇹 nice done, muito obrigado.

[@aaaaaa2206]

Idea: 1. Tear down the walls above the foundation. 2. Build cob walls on the foundation.

[@MobileGames-Shorts]

Great video as always. Stay cool and hydrated guys! Keep up the good work.

[@Grateful.knits99]

A puppy dream, then a drum cadence… I’m liking the new editor

[@clivewright5437]

Well done, Your taken Custom Made to a whole new level :) Love and Rainbows

[@mrMacGoover]

Center cross division walls add support against sideways movement.

[@Notion8]

very nice video guys, maybe the best yet! you can see you guys experimenting with styles and technics, music and video connect well. keep up the goodwork

[@jacquelinesilvabravolatam9952]

you are wonderfull!!!

[@bobbydelcavallo7181]

As always... Absolutely Awesome 🥳🥳🥳

[@al3jandr0g]

Hammer time! 🔨

[@AlhamdulilahSoldier]

As a building investor from Serbia i recommend you to keep up with the work, at the end everything is sold...

[@rhyswilliams695]

Nice work. I like this structure. A few more tie ins to the timber and it will be strong.

[@toddincabo]

Good work. The video was really edited well also.

[@michi2966]

It’s always bad to make Restauration on such bad foundations. The best would be to break it down and build a new one from scratch

[@NezumiWorks]

Frankly I'm amazed that at least part of it hasn't collapsed already just from them messing with it, like removing the roof that nominally held it together, or even just the vibration of building that interior frame. Even taking it apart brick by brick, building a proper frame and putting the bricks back as a decorative facade would be much better, safer, and more sustainable. They should *not* be used as structure at this point, since others have pointed out that they were weakened in the fire.

[@jimbenge9649]

I never realised how beautiful this building was til you pointed out it's perfect imperfections. How I envy you working on this.

[@Ida-fz3ir]

its a challenging thing to build without normed mesures!.(I did it)..more time and money... In my opinion it would have been much more easier to take down all walls and rebuild them! Now You have the problem until flooring!

[@kannmanlassen5638]

really enjoyed this video

[@not2be4gotten02]

I guess you could say the ruin's shape is... organic 😎

[@mariesalway91]

the drum corps music was great :D

[@sirflamingo1885]

17:56 "not straight, just tight"

[@ninasch6400]

7:40 the sound of the drill matching the music is so satisfying 😃

[@francisbarnett]

Keep perlins parallel, always consider how your roof will be built.

[@interficiam]

Is it just me or is the music very loud compared to the speech in this video?

[@zemiguelgrilo3634]

I am from portugal, and see8ng your bideos in a marathon , really liking your work, but that is shady ruin..0

[@robertlemoine3500]

Thankyou, peace fellow babies

[@nickmail7604]

Fire damaged masonry should always be demolished, when (not if) one of those loose walls collapses and kills or injures someone your public liability insurance people will tell you that you are not covered and under current EU legislation you will be in deep shit. Your roof not being square should be fun when you fit the roof tiles because the roof tile shape is square and rigid.

[@LKeet6]

Why would they need public liability insurance?

[@nickmail7604]

@@LKeet6 Because they have members of the public stay there as volunteers, plus its an EU requirement that they have it in case anything should happen to a third party such as a postman or delivery driver or a neighbour and so on. If they don't have it they should, and it would be in their best interest to sort it out immediately, and as they run a business in Holland would have no excuse for not knowing they need it.

[@LKeet6]

@@nickmail7604 I don't think this is a business. In fact I'm sure it's not. Not sure volunteers count in what you're talking about. But you could say the same thing about guests, and the postman for literally anybody. Anyone can sue anyone for an accident on private property. Doesn't make it likely, or realistic, for most people.

[@nickmail7604]

@@LKeet6 it doesn't have to be a business,so but as they make money from both PayPal and Patreon accounts, plus KZbin advertising I can assure you in the EU its a business, same as in any western country.

[@LKeet6]

@@nickmail7604 I find it doubtful patreon and KZbin income is what's considered for public liability insurance. It has to be the property, surely, which is not run as a business. I'm not even convinced having a KZbin channel and a patreon counts you as a business. As you said anyway, someone can sue you for being on your private property and getting an injury, so. But this is about all the effort and interest I can muster on this subject. I just get aggravated when people spend their time criticising KZbin creators for stuff. I'm sure you'll now insist you're right, so carry on:)

[@artofcode]

Hammer Time! \o/

[@louise9973]

You'd be better to take down the walls, start again in square. For all the wood and mucking about to get strength it seems crazy. You'd have a beautiful brick place that was strong and correct in terms of a structure. Rip it down and rebuild.

[@paulrollinson1305]

That type of brick is meant for internal walls. The whole "building" is a wreck.

[@Duda286]

"but its only for people in the states right?" Me secretly watching from Brazil in silence

[@georgejohn9893]

Good wooden frame and cement work aroune top. What holds the rest of the brick wall together?

[@ericlomas5467]

This is like treating a multiple fracture with a band aid. While I admire what you are trying to do, the approach is not doing your credibility any favours. Stay safe.

[@frankhanna6745]

Is there a particular reason you put your beams parallel to the ridge (top line of the roof)? Usually rafters run down from the ridge towards the eaves. Not sure if its going to be a problem but it´s a very unconventional way of roof construction. Also I´m not sure if your support structure is strong enough to hold the roof. This, of course depends on the type of roof covering and insulation, but traditional roof tiles are super heavy.

[@ProjectKamp]

Mainly to connect both walls to eachother with a few big beams. This is also how it was done originally, local style:) should be enough the hold the rooftiles, thick beams!

[@georgiafloydsod9644]

@@ProjectKamp I'm sure you guys already had this planned long before my comment on the last video but its amazing how similar our ideas were for building a strong roof. Keep up the good work guys

[@susanritchie4921]

@@ProjectKamp I hate to admit this but I would probably build something with walls this off if someone didn't politely correct me.

[@MarkDemarest]

#RecycledPlastic 👈🏼 💪🏼 🙌🏼

[@yodaz101]

Knock it down and rebuild correctly while at this stage, make modifications, now.

[@lisamo128]

Hoe droef het ook is, de video's die je zelf maakt, zoals deze denk ik, zijn veel leuker dan die van de ingehuurde video maker... Ik hoop dat de volgende beter is!

[@targaryenking8877]

I like for the lobster, the red lobster ;)

[@simonbirch78]

Soak the bricks in water before you lay them so they dont dry out the cement before it goes off

[@bumblewyn]

beach episode! :D

[@dedeesky5]

What had happened to the once mighty Portugal of long time ago in contest with the Mighty Spanish Conquitadores, battling and conquering the East. That now neglect its land and people who need their assistance in some grant task that can be solved by the government if they want to.

[@Henroin42]

would have been easier and more long lasting to just use the foundation and build a new house. You need experienced people that have build stuff before. This looks like some people from the city trying to live a dream PS: The pro/con list must be a joke

[@ric_dk-9520]

Perhaps a 3D scan of the building would help making a better model to work with?

[@DonAntoniodetucum]

Amazing Amazon lady

[@oliversmigues]

Voces gringos precisam aprender os métodos de construção brasileira em alvenaria. Construções antigas como esta de alvenaria em que voces estão trabalhando precisam de cuidados especiais por conta da umidade, o maior inimigo do tijolo a longo prazo é a agua. Se esses tijolos usados na construção forem estruturais, voces poderiam simplesmente apoiar o telhado por cima, se não for estrutural e nesse caso acredito que não pois não vejo colunas nas paredes voces devem adaptar uma nova fundação com colunas de sustentação, se voces usarem o drywall que é comum para voces sem vedar a parte de fora vão ter enormes problemas com mofo e posteriormente rachaduras nas paredes.

[@boebrow]

puppiiieeess!!!

[@buddysmits4824]

De gordingen ondersteunen via de muur is geen slecht idee.. ik weet niet wat de draagkracht van de vloer nog is waar de balken op rusten. misschien is er door de groef die je hebt gemaakt voor de condens ook een vermindering van de draagkracht...

[@momoosSVK]

How is your plastic roof doing after the heatwave ?

[@simonhi99]

Obviously different country different rules, there's no way you'd be allowed to do that in UK. Demolish and rebuild would be the only choice, and to be honest should have been the choice here. Much stronger, safer and straighter walls could have been built very quickly.

[@msamour]

Is there not a building code in Portugal?

[@Grateful.knits99]

They call me the lobster

[@satchelsieniewicz5824]

ahhhhhh sanding against the grain

[@AUTdude]

Earth bag would have been my choice in case of fire. Only a matter of time unfortunately

[@merindahthornton5080]

Or something similar... mud bricks, hay bale & cob...

[@marinervalley1588]

Maybe it would be better to take Down the bricks and rebuild it on the still standing foundation

[@Sockieknowshockey]

Please stop the build and do it properly and safely. In the long run it will save time, energy and money.

[@lecoeurdivin7040]

Faut vraiment poser des barres de fer traversantes comme sur les maisons en pierre, sinon ça va s'ébouler. Faites attention à vous.🙏

[@Diogenes_43]

I’d have spaced the studs evenly on each wall rather than trying to frame something that isn’t square square. Once your building isn’t square you just have to build to what you have rather than to a blueprint.

[@sierratango11]

You have a cb radio antenna on your van, do you still use one? If so what type and which frequencies? 26ST11

[@justdoingstuffrsa751]

It would have been cheaper and easier to demolish and start from scratch.

[@alexquinn4792]

Can you not save the brick? I feel like “tearing it down” and re-using the scavenged materials would be a lot less of a burden time and resource-wise

[@alex46215]

sighs, i know its trying to save the ruin or whatever...why wasnt it just broken down and redone, its....bogussss lol

[@Guilhermehol]

ahahahhahaha the dream moment

[@W4iteFlame]

This house have a character...and it is drunk

[@aidanscapeing]

Originally the building was probably built by farmers, do you plan on plastering the outside walls?.

[@FLbk3010]

Why don’t you listen to anyone? Even in these temperatures you refused to wet the bricks before laying them. Thereby the cement is drying too fast on the outer sides and major instability can be caused by this…

[@GD-mw1kd]

🤦🏼 What a screw up... You could have distributed the beam distances equally.

[@KarolisJukna]

bend bent bent

[@greallyqt]

I think you need a body of water at camp

[@AnyoneCanSee]

If legal I'd have knocked it down and started again on the same foundations. That much brickwork could be done in a few days and I honestly feel like starting from scratch with a good design would have created something better in both summer and winter and wouldn't have warped walls that look like they already need plates on them to stop them from falling down. You could also then make the windows and door the correct sizes for easily available double-glazed and environmentally sound products. Even the roof could have been modular solar panelled. Not a criticism just an observation. The swimming area looked amazing. Climate change is definitely upon us with the heat. I live in Edinburgh and there were even days here that I felt overheated outside. That has never ever happened. Sorry waffled - Great video!

[@raila952]

If they wanted to absolutely reuse the bricks they could of made it like a fachwerkhaus as they already made most of the needed timber frame. Also the maybe fire damaged bricks wouldn't have any load on them then.

[@AnyoneCanSee]

@@raila952 - Agree. They would have stronger better-insulated walls and the entire build would be easier if they rebuild those walls. Considering all the work they will need to do on the building, starting on such poor brickwork seems counterintuitive. I'm actually a little afraid that those walls aren't even safe. Also, everything would be easier on a rectangular design, even tiling the roof will take so much longer with such an odd shape.

[@markschattefor6997]

@@AnyoneCanSee Yepp, I agree, and I even doubt if they can carry on this way if an inspector shows up and checks the building for safety. This (re)building reminds me of my favourite German saying "wenn schon denn schon". What they are doing now is a waste of time and money, it was crap, it is crap and it will stay crap. Just accept that it isn't allways a wise decision to keep all the old stuff in place, and this crappy building doesn't even have the looks to be saved for the future.

[@7nesss]

They would be down € 1.240 euros if they bought 3 pallets of bricks and those should be enough. My advice now you still can just tear it down and re-build it. Like the main comment it's like starting from scratch but it will make it easier for roofing, and dividing the rooms etc.. Keep up the good work 👏

[@MrDecop]

Agree and it will cost less then what they gonna have to pay to straighten the walls.

[@stephanberg7335]

Best option regarding the sustainability aspect of that project would probably be: Demolishing the upper floor, rebuilding it properly, having an outside insulation (maybe cork?) and an wooden frame work with waterproofed wood shingles on the outside. Just make sure there's a small gap between these outer two layers to allow air to circulate inside.

[@douglascampbell9809]

Yeah acting abnormal is a sign of heat stress, so is red skin. Super dangerous by the way. Once your body gets into the mid stages it's really hard to stop it from getting worse. Late stage heat stress is difficult for hospitals to treat and is often fatal. I used to work in a furniture factory where in the summer the outside temp when I went in for second shift would be 115F/ 46C. With the humidity the worst I saw with the heat index was 127F/ 52C. It was so dangerous we had yearly training to spot and treat heat stress before it got bad. It was so dangerous Heath and Safety for the plant instructed us supervisors to call an ambulance to get someone with late stage heat stress before we called their office in the plant. That stuff will kill you if you aren't careful. Do some reading on it because I think Coline got lucky you stopped when you did.

[@cruelaz]

also its always important to keep in mind where you at. a heatstrike in the city is different than when youre out in the country. So always good to stop before your limits and look out for each other!

[@RobertDoornbosF1]

Was the part where they used a screw to decide also part of acting abnormal? I mean making a safe structure for the future should be a real decision, not by fate right?

[@ghomerhust]

i had an episode of heat stroke years ago at a semi shop i worked at. temps inside the shop (with doors open and big fans everywhere) was about 121F. i was in leather welding gear running a big torch cutting apart a crashed trailer frame so we could repair it. i ended up passing out from the heat. that was 16 years ago, and i still have a terrible time in heat, tho now it's much worse. anything over about 80F makes me physically ill. it sucks because it's currently 102 without heat index in my town!

[@douglascampbell9809]

@@ghomerhust I hear you man. I've had it twice. I literally had little shooting stars floating in my vision.

[@NezumiWorks]

You lot get stubborn about the strangest things. This being one of the biggest examples, to be honest. I can see trying to preserve a cool old ruin, but this is so clearly just a shoddy piece of workmanship right from the start that it doesn't even *look* solid or well made, but you've gotten the idea in your head that it must be preserved, even if that results in a building that's less solid, has poorer insulation, and remains a safety hazard for those outside. Please get someone local with construction experience involved and have them assess what you're doing. And listen if they tell you that this haphazard pile of fire-weakened bricks isn't worth saving as a building (although you can do other stuff with it).

[@sadjaxx]

I understand that demolishing a building in Portugal can be an extremely difficult endeavor involving a lot of time and effort and paperwork. Although this place constitutes a danger to life and limb!

[@DaDunge]

I mean if it was a cool old ruin, but it's clearly a mid 20th century building that was builkd using materials and methods not suitable to permanent construction.

[@DaDunge]

@@davidf2118 Those bricks were shoddy to begin with. Look at them they are breakign all over the place. They're simply not building material quality.

[@maximinus8725]

It is shoddy AF, but it has a soul and a story.

[@Kullioking]

@@DaDunge The bricks are shoddy because the hole area was in a wildfire. The bricks are done because of it, the hole building is a death trap.

[@NoNo-je6rf]

Guys I know it will be a pain in the ass but please follow the advise in all this comments . we all love you and support you but this is not the way to build. You must demolish the floor and build again from zero.

[@victorsummers2283]

It seems like you will also need to tie the brick wall to the frame at points lower in the wall, not just at the top.

[@sprint955st]

Yep surely the wall should be tied into the frame ideally with some spreader plates on the outside to stop the wall buckling outwards

[@henrycarter7563]

Yeap. that was the first thing I thought of, thinking about how some old houses are held together with lag bolts keep the wall straight

[@ghomerhust]

agreed, run some long rods through the wall with plates on the post side and the outer side, tie it together.

[@sprint955st]

@@henrycarter7563 you see it everywhere here in the U.K. on listed (historic) buildings especially