PROOF Lordship Salvation gives NO assurance!

[@tdaniel8909]

After I was saved there was a hunger for God. So as a baby Christian I turned to “Christian” radio. There I encountered John MacArthur and all the others. I lived in horrible fear. I would ask myself how do I know I’ve repented enough or surrendered enough after that I had clearly believed that Jesus died for my sins. I eventually through my hands up and gave up on the Christian life. Years later after being backslidden the Lord led me back. I’m so thankful that I found teaching like this that put me on solid ground. Lordship salvation is from Satan himself!

[@allysonp2254]

@ T Daniel Hallelujah 🙌🏼 Your testimony will certainly help so many people who are "trapped" in the demonic Lordship salvation heresy!

[@josephinemorgan6582]

me too.and came across Mckarthur, had me questioning my salvation and I know I'm saved. God bless in Jesus Name 🙏

[@krisjustin3884]

@@allysonp2254 Spot on! It is a teaching from the depths of hell itself!

[@krisjustin3884]

Appreciate this message! You are one of thousands who went through this. Lordship Salvation is indeed a clever deception! I was even fooled by this while ministering in a reformed church and was often disturbed by the contradictory theology I preached.

[@BibleLine]

That is awesome T Daniel! - Trent

[@Marv_1994]

For a couple of years or so I listened to teaching from John Macarthur, Paul Washer, John Piper in regards to salvation and conversion and it did not lead me down a path of assurance or certainty. But rather down a path of hopelessness, fear, depression and despair. By Gods awesome help and grace I have come out of that. And it’s amazing to see that I’m not the only one who has experienced what I experienced from listening to them but countless others have gone through the same thing as well. I thinks it’s safe to say that what they teach is false given the result of fear and uncertainty it produces in people who listen to them. I have to add as well that the worst of them all in my opinion in regards to lordship salvation is a pastor named Tim Conway from the Let’s be Honest KZbin channel. Listening to that guy really sunk me in a deep depression and hopelessness. Just be careful of who you listen to out there and keep your eyes on the Lord and your mind in the scriptures.

[@theodoreritola7641]

I never liked the way P,W WOULD SEEM LIKE HE WOULD GET VERY ANGRY When he preaches. I hope he stops being P .w

[@foechicken8023]

As the day is long the attacks will continue. I know this person's struggle as I had a similar experience but I plead with God to show me the truth and 2015 I finally understood. I placed my hope in Christ alone to save me. When service was required to be saved it was a burden and I found no joy in it but now that I am saved without effort of my own I want to be obedient. It is amazing how that works. Serving shouldn't be a burden but a joy!

[@MichaelBrown-ip2kj]

They can have John MacArthur, I’ll take John 3:16!

[@allysonp2254]

Amen!!!

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Amen brother

[@krisjustin3884]

You have correctly noticed that John 3:16 is actually above the teachings of John MacArthur! So many haven’t - so tragic!

[@shakenbake7967]

I'd say 9/10 will take that swap anyday.....come as you are, stay as you are as long as you recite john 3:16.....I hope a simple prayer nothing more works for you when your literally on your knees in reverence in front of Jesus.. 🤔

[@gysgtholpp]

you may want to take Matthew 7:22 also

[@kimwestwood8840]

May God continue to bless this ministry helping new believers and old alike who are indoctrinated in false teaching . God bless you Jesse and merry Christmas to all of you awesome young people .

[@BibleLine]

Thank you! Merry Christmas! - Trent

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@@BibleLine the only ones who believe that MacArthur's teachings are above scripture itself.. are those who believe John MacArthur is above scripture itself.. John MacArthur does Not place himself there.. only his followers do.. so what if.. John MacArthur is firm in what he believes?.. I am Not saying he is perfect... even the Bereans searched the scripture for themselves to find out if the things said were so.. I would rather find a person who is firm in their convictions than a wish-washy Christian any day... even if some of that person's convictions are WRONG.. at least they stand for something.. and perhaps if what they believe is wrong.. prayer can change that belief.. a person can trust in some of what MacArthur teaches and STILL Not make him God... I hope you can understand that..

[@Outrider74]

Our Lutheran pastor said it this way: trying to gain God’s favor through obedience to the Law is like trying to use a fork in an electric socket in order to get electricity .

[@KoryGilesMusicGroup]

I say it a similar way: trying to work your way to salvation is like trying to absorb the sun rays with your eyes in order to get vitamin C. It’s ridiculous.

[@jimkraft9445]

@@KoryGilesMusicGroup Fork in the socket! Ouch. I won't do that again. LOL.

[@geighsects2519]

New to the channel and glad to be here! My Christian journey had me exclusively listening to Macarthur and Washer and the like until I found the OSAS message on channels like Onorato Diamante and yours. The scriptures are truly clear when they are explained soberly and truly. Thank you for your service!

[@BibleLine]

Wow! Thank you so much. Glad to have you here with us. - Trent

[@Julie-g2w]

Paul Washer is one of the most depressed looking people Ive ever seen.

[@allysonp2254]

Excellent, Jesse!!! John MacArthur teaches damnable heresies! His followers believe what he says instead of what the Bible teaches! 😞 My question for them is, how is that "man worship" working for you?

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

That is right

[@krisjustin3884]

I have to agree with you - yes, he is held in such high esteem that I have wondered myself if his teachings are viewed above scripture itself. It’s absolutely disturbing what one man can do to destroy the simplicity of the Gospel.

[@theodoreritola7641]

And he gets so many views that's VERY SAD He defiantly needs a wakeup call. NO DIFFERNCE BE TWEEN HIM AND TD JAKES BOTH ARE DECIEVERS@@krisjustin3884

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@@krisjustin3884 the only ones who believe that MacArthur's teachings are above scripture itself.. are those who believe John MacArthur is above scripture itself.. John MacArthur does Not place himself there.. only his followers do.. so what if.. John MacArthur is firm in what he believes?.. I am Not saying he is perfect... even the Bereans searched the scripture for themselves to find out if the things said were so.. I would rather find a person who is firm in their convictions than a wish-washy Christian any day... even if some of that person's convictions are WRONG.. at least they stand for something.. and perhaps if what they believe is wrong.. prayer can change that belief.. a person can trust in some of what MacArthur teaches and STILL Not make him God... I hope you can understand that..

[@redeemedsinner8091]

Thank you for exposing Lordship Salvation.

[@otrinity8381]

I grew up with this type of doctrine and it killed my self confidence and had me feeling unworthy until about a month ago. I am 52 and received the GIFT of salvation 4 years ago. I grew up surrounded by believers who didnt understand how to explain salvation to me and answer questions that were challenging. I ran a long dark road for most of my life with an poor attitude towards God and at times Id say I was almost atheist. I can attest to how damaging this kind of talk can be. The answer is to read your Bible! I learned this after having much the same experience as the man who posed the question. I appreciate this video so very much. Thank you sir, and may God bless you and yours.

[@BibleLine]

Thank you so much. Praise the Lord that you found the truth! - Trent

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@@BibleLine why do people assume that belief in Lordship Salvation and Calvinism are intertwined... they are Not... Lordship Salvation simply means that once we trust in the Lord as our Savior.. we also allow Him to be the Lord of our Lives.. many who argue against Lordship Salvation state they do Not believe in Lordship Salvation.. because allowing Jesus to be the Lord of our lives is a "WORK".. "Say What?!" first of all being obedient to God should NEVER be considered some "work ".. that a believer needs to do for the Lord.. secondly.. Our Salvation is Not based on whether we allow Jesus to be Lord of our lives or Not.. but One simple question.. If Jesus is a great enough God to Save us.. why wouldn't any allow Him to also be our Master?.. THAT is what I have a problem with... those who would call themselves Christians.. and will Not allow God to "own", them.. do they Not know that they belong to God and have been bought with a price..?. Perhaps the ones who do Not believe in Lordship Salvation.. are only "pseudo-Christians".. fooling themselves and those around them.. perhaps they do Not really love God at all.. I would DIE for my Jesus..

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@@BibleLine YOU can't even quote this person's note to him properly... the note says "I still have little knowledge"... but when read on this video.. you.. add the letter "a".. here... so Now the message reads "I have A little knowledge" there is a Big difference between someone stating they have "A little knowledge" And someone saying they have "little knowledge" the "A little knowledge".. implies that this person does NOT consider themselves ignorant to the Word.. where as "little knowledge".. implies they think they ARE ignorant to the Word... which one is it?..

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@@BibleLine I agree with you that nobody should place themselves above scripture... but where do YOU get off claiming John MacArthur does this?.. because You do not understand the principle of Lordship Salvation>,, or because you are reading into something that MacArthur is preaching about it?. 1 John 3:9 states.. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. THAT is what MacArthur preaches... that of a person once saved refuses to be obedient to the commands of God.. and continues to willfully sin... then they perhaps NEVER were really saved... Obedience to God.. is where the Lordship Salvation part comes in.. Once saved... we should WANT to submit to the Lord.. as our Master... and be obedient to Him.. many argue this point and try to say that obedience is a WORK.. do you consider obedience as a "work": ? then YOU are the one messed up... NOT John MacArthur...

[@brandoncriner5480]

I once heard some Lordship friends of mine talking about another member in our church who had obvious struggles. He was an inner city guy with learning disabilities. Then one of them said, "He just needs to get saved" and they all laughed. Yet I knew those one of those Lordship guys had OCD issues and the other struggled with anger and pride. Neither of them admitted it but I knew because they were my neighbors.

[@theodoreritola7641]

I watched a video with John Mc Talking bout his BOOK he sounded very proud of him self that was a red flag to me.

[@theodoreritola7641]

What IF a Christain does NOT REMAIN IN THE LORD JESUS VINE AND BRANCES seems like a counter diction.

[@brandoncriner5480]

@theodoreritola7641 My personal belief is that chapters 14-17 are intended to apply to the 11 Disciples only. See John 14:26 for example.

[@cassiebennet4262]

The irony is that they all need to get saved.

[@cassiebennet4262]

@@RStark-ek7mh Every religion on earth is works based. False works based Christianity is the majority of Christianity. The few are the ones who believe we are saved by grace through faith and not of works. Which the Bible clearly states and you blatantly ignore. If God doesn't let us choose him then he created billions to damn. You're decieved just like the rest of the world.

[@jeff3971]

You're excellent. The clear gospel of God's grace. This is such a breath of fresh air.

[@josephinemorgan6582]

God bless you young man who asked the question,,I feel ya. John3:16 Eph.2:8,9. We are saved young man thru faith alone not of works,.

[@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel]

Very good. Yes, it's all about the atonement of Jesus Christ on the cross...

[@krisjustin3884]

Hallelujah! You tell them preacher! It’s not about us atoning for ourselves, but Christ atoning for us on the cross. Indeed a glorious gospel!

[@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel]

@@krisjustin3884 Jesse is a great preacher too. I wish all of the pastors shared the Gospel like him.

[@krisjustin3884]

@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel Yes, if only! Heartbreaking indeed.

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

It's always the Christians who have the least popular KZbin channels that The Holy Spirit reveals to me are telling the truth. People find it hard to fully understand and embrace grace, even genuine believers. They get thrown into confusion by doctrines that subtly attack the grace of God. I've fallen into this myself in the past, but The Holy Spirit has cleaned up that confusion over the years and won't allow me to be thrown deep in confusion anymore. If I sin God will discipline me as a Son so there is still a deterrent to not sin. God not sparing the rod is enough of a deterrent for me, but I choose to believe with all my heart that I'm saved by grace alone because of Jesus dying for my sins. This doesn't mean i don't fear sin because reading about King David's sin and the discipline of The Lord that came upon him is definitely enough to make me fear God despite believing my salvation is secure.

[@BibleLine]

Right on! The clarity and freeness of the gospel is so amazing. Our goal is to reach as many people as we can with that message. Praise God that you found the truth! Confusion does affect the minds of many people, and that’s why we need to share the gospel often. (Romans 1:16) Thanks for sharing! - Trent

[@Everykneebows]

Amen it’s amazing how many channels teach a falsse gospel. Grace thru faith 100% alone

[@H.E.M.]

@@Everykneebows facts like Isaiah Salvadar, Cliff and his son, Girls gone Bible, Vlad something Russian, church 2819, even young people like Mapalo. All believe in a lordship/workbased salvation.

[@Everykneebows]

@@H.E.M. hey yeah. It’s quite saad. All these rag trusters have many followers, are very popular leading many to the pit. Pray for them

[@krisjustin3884]

Lordship Salvation is the enemy’s clever way of reversing the gospel of grace back to the dark, old days of popery and spiritual bondage while still maintaining a protestant image that says ‘free grace’ but means uncertainty and striving for perfection. It’s utterly despicable and demonic and makes a mockery of the work of Christ on the cross. The new or neo-Calvinism of today is a sign of the end times with people listening to the doctrines of demons and equating our works with the work of calvary for salvation. It’s a last day’s deception fooling many away from the true gospel!

[@waynerossiter9962]

I don't care for MacArthur's theology either. But do you do with this? 1 John 2:3-6 is definitive on this topic, "3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did."

[@BibleLine]

The Lord knows them that are His even when we don’t always know Him. Notice 2 Timothy 2:11-19. We fall, we fail and we mess up. God has sealed believers with the Holy Spirit (Eph. 1:12-14), we are bought with a price (1 Cor. 6:19-20), we are His children (Gal. 3:26), and we are never to be brought into condemnation (John 3:15-28, 5:24). This is all true of the believer in Jesus. The thing that changes is YOU, not God. This is why John wrote 1 John. Believer, STOP walking in darkness, but walk in the light. It’s not a test of salvation, but it’s a test of fellowship. It’s a Father - child relationship. I don’t look at my son and no longer call him my son just because he sins in some manner - even apostasy from the Trent family name… - Trent

[@waynerossiter9962]

So, unfortunately, you're twisting your argument now. In the video, your argument is that obedience and fruit are not necessary aspects of the life of a Christian. We are saved whether or not we are obedient or produce fruit. Now, you're changing it to "sometimes we don't know him...but during those times he still knows us." I assume that you're equating "we don't know him" with not doing works (we fail to turn from sin, obey his commands, or produce fruit). If so, that's a blatant bait-and-switch, because your original argument was not, "it's okay to fail sometimes," it was "you can fail forever at all times and still be saved." If obedience or faith are EVER required in the life of a Christian, your view is wrong. Look at how Jesus talks about believers in John 15:5-6. Those who fail to produce fruit are cut off from Christ. They are not in him, and instead are gathered and burned. Is that works-based? No. Because, as 1 John 2 and 3 clarify, those who do not change in their actions have not been changed by the Spirit in their hearts. They are not in him. Jesus also says the same in Matthew 7: 15-20.

[@waynerossiter9962]

It feels like the real source of your defense for this idea that one can be in Christ, but not necessarily be obedient or produce fruit, lies in your adherence to the once-saved-always-saved doctrine (Perseverance of the Saints). That, of course, is demonstrably false (Matt 24:10-14, 2 Cor 11:3-4, 2 Thess 2:3, 1 Tim 1:18-19, Heb 2:1-3, Heb 10:26-31, 2 Pet 2:20-21). So then, as we see in Matt 13:20-23, one can initially accept Christ, but drift from him, and eventually abandon faith.

[@krisjustin3884]

@@BibleLine As you can see, these people waste our time with the same questions and answers they already know from different perspectives. It’s the same explanation I read from several Catholics. That’s why I gave the suggested references that go into the deeper details they refuse to read. Just another attempt to undermine this good channel, but still, only the best teaching gets attacked like this!

[@thejess2225]

Amen Pastor Jesse! We all need to stop Googling, KZbin-ing, social media debating,news watching, and book reading less...and study God's Word ALOT more. #soulwin.🕊💜🙏🏼

[@jeffpoole2071]

Anyone who is teaching you don't have to live rite is false teacher I'm not arguing I'm share the truth if I see this and don't say something don't want your blood on my hands when I stand before God

[@thejess2225]

@@jeffpoole2071 I'm saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. My blood has nothing to do with any person's hands, but everything to do with my belief in the birth, life, death and resurrection of my Savior, Jesus Christ. The wages for sin is death and He paid it all for all. Simply believe. He is the One True God. Will you put your faith in Jesus Christ?

[@krisjustin3884]

@@thejess2225 Amen. I’ll take the blood on Jesus hands for salvation any day over someone else’s hands!

[@randyd9805]

​@@jeffpoole2071 You do know you called Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Peter, and others a false teacher right? Jesus said so plainly that even a child could understand that it is by believing in Him that you get eternal life. MacArthur and all who believe in the wicked heresies of Calvinism teach that you must play a part in both getting saved in the first place as well as persevering in the faith to the end. No such thing exists anywhere in the Bible, period. Jesus NEVER taught any such thing and neither did even one Apostle and that includes James. Over and over again the Bible repeats that salvation is by believing or faith in the work of Christ for us on the cross. You DO NOT have the ability to add a thing to that for your salvation. In more than one place salvation is referred to as a gift and it's by grace + nothing. You don't earn a gift by doing anything. You simply believe what God has offered by faith and trust what He said about it. Then,. God gives you the "gift of eternal life" when you believe. Sanctification or growth in grace FOLLOWS salvation AFTER you're saved, but no amount of your trying to live right will get you one fraction of an inch toward heaven. Get this down in your heart. Romans 6:23 " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

[@jeffpoole2071]

Jesus said though you cast out devil's spoke with young's or lead ppl. To Jesus he ( Jesus) will say I know you not How would one become santifyd set apart for God to use I will pray for you also know false teachers will get the worst punishment

[@erikareading]

This is now the second time I randomly came across your channel researching things about my previous church that I felt were off. I felt very oppressed in that church and didn't know why. It was a missionary church and many of the sermons were guilt trips about how we should always be doing more. No matter how much I did it was never enough for those people. My Bible never made sense to me. They invited all sorts of random people to preach that always contradicted what the church beliefs but they were "doers" or Messianic Jews who "know more about the faith than us". Thankfully I am now out of that church but it has taken a toll on my mental health. I have been very confused with the messages online by Washer and other very works based preachers. I have come across Renee this week and when I heard her message it all clicked. This is the good news I learned as a child. I lost it for a while to Lordship salvation confusion/fear but I think I can heal now. Going to subscribe to your channel so I can keep hearing the good news.

[@BibleLine]

Sorry you have been through so much hardship. On the flip side, it’s awesome you found the truth! We know Renee! I pray we can be of great help and comfort in the truth! Thanks for subscribing. - Trent

[@theodoreritola7641]

Im glad you got UN BRAINWASHED . Praise BE TO OUR LORD JESUS CHIST.

[@davidprice8176]

I love hearing someone tell the truth in these days. ♥

[@BibleLine]

Thanks David - Trent

[@theodoreritola7641]

AMEN. THE TRUTH REALLY HITS HOME ...

[@WW3_Soon]

I heard a prominent Calvinist teacher question the salvation of a once faithful church attendee who missed two straight Sunday church services.

[@Jaymiranz]

Then he wasn’t Calvinist because Calvinism teaches perseverance of the Saints.

[@FlyDog79]

Amen!! If the unsaved man listens to a “salvation” message from MacArthur I can see why they’re are turned off to Christianity. Who wants to live under fear and uncertainty? But when you hear the true gospel, it’s something you don’t want to resist!

[@KeepingWatch95]

Psalms 25:14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

[@FlyDog79]

@@KeepingWatch95 Acts 16:31, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved…”

[@KeepingWatch95]

@@FlyDog79 _Some day "believing" in him will mean believing in his words and believing his teachings. One day, If not only on a man's last day._ John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: *the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.*

[@FlyDog79]

@@KeepingWatch95 John 3:16 says to believe on Him. That’s it. You’re adding to the true, gospel message. Also, define how good I have to live to have believed on Him?

[@KeepingWatch95]

@@FlyDog79 John 12 comes after John 3. They are recorded that way. How am I adding?

[@Everykneebows]

So good to find a channel that actually teaches the gospel..new subber

[@tedzeiter833]

I'm a Christian and go to podcast, like yours, often. More times then not to clarify. I learned many years to listen with spiritual discernment and that is why I put John MacArthur and Tim keller on the shelf. Much of what they is good and biblical but when serious fundamentals are distorted. I step back.

[@BibleLine]

Good discernment, Ted. Thank you for the comment. - Jesse

[@theodoreritola7641]

And BAAAAACK and BAAAACK Then run the other from his CULT

[@theodoreritola7641]

MEANT TO SAY RUN THE OTHER WAY FROM THIS cult ...

[@theodoreritola7641]

What r u talking about ?Let me ask u some thing ? how does any body get to heaven please tell me your secrit

[@JoeyjojoShabadoo7]

Just found your channel. Very encouraging! Thank you for speaking truth. God bless you.

[@tendaimsimang8630]

And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” Matthew 7:26‭-‬27

[@KeepingWatch95]

👍 Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, *Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?* Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, *keep the commandments.* Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, *Which?* Jesus said, *Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,* Matthew 19:19 *Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.* _In Matthew 19:16 a man asks, “Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”_ _Matthew 19:17 Jesus replies, “... keep the commandments.”_ _Matthew 19:18 the man then asks, “Which?” (meaning “which” commandments)._ _Matthew 19:18-19 Jesus' replies by reciting from the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself._

[@BibleLine]

Jesus was showing the man that he is a sinner by showing him that he cannot keep the law. No one can keep the law except God himself. This is why he fulfilled the law when he died for our sin. We have to place our faith in Him to have eternal life. - Trent

[@kevint4173]

Romans 3:20-24 NIV Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. [21] But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. [22] This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, [23] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [24] and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. ​@KeepingWatch95

[@MisterBill593]

We do good works NOT to get saved but rather BECAUSE we are saved. Great video!

[@MichaelForte-jn5pn]

Exactly

[@loveroftruth8148]

Why is everyone hating on macarthur? Hes just saying that theres a difference between a true convert and every other person who checks the "Christian" box on paper. Macarthur is simply teaching faith without works is dead.

[@Called_Out_Ones]

God can call you righteous because you are covered by Jesus' righteousness. But God also MAKES you righteous - He transforms you, and preserves you. Declared righteous in justification. Then MADE righteous in sanctification. Even Jesus commands us to put what He says into practice. "Whoever hears my words and does them."

[@jimkraft9445]

@@Called_Out_Ones Romans 4:5. But to Him that worketh not, but believe in Him who JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for His righteousness. Faith alone apart from any works. Romans 11:6. All grace, no works. Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) For it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELEVETH, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Acts 16:31. God is not the author of confusion. John 6:47. John 3:18. Believers are no longer condemned, but UNBELIEVERS are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. The gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4. Galatians 1:6-9. Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that Ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. John MacArthur preaches another gospel. Not first Corinthians 15:1-4. He preaches an accursed message that man can save himself, and Jesus died for nothing. Galatians 2:21. I do not void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Jesus died for nothing. He perverts the grace of God and preaches works for salvation. Not Romans 11:6. Romans 1:16. He preaches another gospel which is no gospel at all. Any man who does not preach the gospel, First Corinthians 15:1-4, is preaching an accursed message. Wolves in sheep's clothing. Matthew 7:15-23. What is the will of God for salvation? John 6:40, And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that Seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH in Him, may have everlasting life, and I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY. John 6:29. Jesus, answered, and said unto them, this is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE on the one He has sent. Acts 16:31 period. John 6:47. God cannot lie. Lordship salvation is a works based gospel. Not the Free GIFT. Romans 6:23. Romans 3:26-28 For He is the JUST and the JUSTIFIER of them that BELIEVE in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? By the law of works? Nay, but by the law of FAITH. Therefore we conclude a man is JUSTIFIED by FAITH, APART FROM THE DEEDS OF THE LAW. For by the law shall no flesh be JUSTIFIED.. Romans 5:19-21 Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. Colossians 2:13. We have been forgiven ALL trespasses. The one blood sacrifice of Jesus is sufficient. The blood of Jesus covers us from all sin forever. Hebrews 13:5. John 10:28-29. We can be chastened by the Lord for living in sin, Colossians 3:5-6, but never loss of eternal life.

No that’s not correct, he does not understand the distinction between salvation which is a free gift received through belief or faith ie trust alone in Jesus and his finished work and discipleship which does require submission and obedience. Discipleship is not automatic, if it were than 90% of the New Testament would not have been written to encourage believers to become disciples. Dead faith does not mean non existent faith or non real faith or non saving faith which the Bible never states but simply unprofitable faith in that it doesn’t profit one in their walk with Jesus here nor before the judgment seat of Christ where they will be save but have no rewards. The Greek word is actually unprofitable and again does not mean non existent. MacArthur teaches a works Gospel furthermore he is a hypocrite who doesn’t follow his own teachings.

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@loveroftruth8148 your words from a while back: "Why is everyone hating on macarthur? Hes just saying that theres a difference between a true convert and every other person who checks the "Christian" box on paper. Macarthur is simply teaching faith without works is dead." THANK YOU... I totally agree with you,.. so many here do Not have the faintest idea what "Lordship Salvation",... means.. they think it is How we get saved.. rather than how we are After being saved... I do Not know how many believe that this term means we Must allow Jesus to be Lord of our lives in order to get saved.. what Lordship Salvation entails is allowing Jesus to be our Lord.. and Master.. we do this by submitting to Him.. and being obedient.. Many people look upon obedience as a "WORK".. thereby.. making this an act required of us.. in order to be saved.. I do Not know why so many think that way.. perhaps some are just looking for ways to hate or distrust John MacArthur.. I am sure if they search hard enough they can find some other way of hating him... no one is perfect...

[@kevindavis4709]

It trips me out when the lordship lose your salvation crowd say you can lose your salvation. Yet at the same time those people are shallow treating you nice based on your physical attraction if you’re not physically attractive people overlook you how’s that less sinful? I mean crushing somebody’s heart making them not feel good enough isn’t showing the love of Christ. The Bible says if you cause one of my littlest too fall it’s better for you to have a millstone tied around your neck tossed on the river than cause one of my little ones too fall away from me. That’ll be sad lose your salvation because a person is shallow if they don’t look a certain way not giving them the time of day too see what a Great personality they have.

[@chrisanok9283]

Lordship salvation don't all believe you can lose salvation. I hold to osas

[@KeepingWatch95]

The littles ones are likely those that believe every word, teaching, and saying from the Messiah without question, and follow him like sheep. Matthew 10:40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. Matthew 10:41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. Matthew 10:42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

[@KeepingWatch95]

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. Matthew 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Matthew 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

[@KeepingWatch95]

Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, *Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?* Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, *keep the commandments.* Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, *Which?* Jesus said, *Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,* Matthew 19:19 *Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.* _In Matthew 19:16 a man asks, “Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”_ _Matthew 19:17 Jesus replies, “... keep the commandments.”_ _Matthew 19:18 the man then asks, “Which?” (meaning “which” commandments)._ _Matthew 19:18-19 Jesus' replies by reciting from the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself._

[@KeepingWatch95]

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

[@BrotherDave80]

Amen Pastor Jesse! Good word.

[@jeffpoole2071]

If we keep ourselves from sin but if we do sin we have a advocate with the father Seek holy spirit of truth when one is saved You are giving your life to God thru Jesus So don't sin willfuly

[@BibleLine]

Giving your life to Jesus isn’t salvation. That is discipleship. Salvation is the sinner being eternally justified before God, by faith in Jesus, through Jesus’ shed blood and completed work on the cross (His death, burial, and resurrection). Willful sin is an issue of obedience not a measurement of one’s salvation.

[@jeffpoole2071]

@@BibleLine it all goes together if you leave out obedience then you will be a miserable person no joy no peace If you leave out any part you mite still be goin to heaven Corinthians the guy was turned over to satin for the destruction of the flesh who wants that the soul that sins will die

[@KeepingWatch95]

@@jeffpoole2071 _Jesus foretold that right after he planted the good seed the enemy would plant tares among the good seed._ Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. _Jesus sown the good seed. Right after the enemy came and sown the tares among the good seed._ _Good seed = the four Gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John._ _The tares were sown then after._ _Everyone knows Jesus came and sown the good seed. And everyone knows who came right after Jesus and sown much seed intermingled with what Jesus had sown._ _Many people (instead of following what Jesus had sown) insist upon following that which was sown after Jesus._

[@theodoreritola7641]

We don't give our life to God he gave us his life . But I know what you meant to say

[@marylamb6063]

Lordship salvation causes brain damage that may be permanent. It activates and strengthens the amygdala, responsible for aggression, anxiety, and a lack of compassion. The brains of people who believe in grace have growth in the anterior cingulate cortex, which leads to compassion and empathy.

[@BibleLine]

Interesting! I believe it 🧐 - Trent

[@theodoreritola7641]

WOOOW thank you for the GREAT NEWS. That should be on a lot of t shirts. I would ware it PROUDLY. And on the back IT WOULD SAY I LOVE MY REDEEMER MY LORD JESUS CHRIST

[@Zaran812]

Great message, brother! Praise Jesus Christ!!

[@davidbutler5883]

Thank you brother ive just subscribed to ur channel god bless u and ur family

[@BibleLine]

Thank you so much David!! - Trent

[@JoshStribling]

3:38 - By jumping straight to 1 John 5:13, you completely ignore the whole "these things have I written" in chapters 1-5 leading up to this point. John makes it VERY clear in this letter, that anyone that is willfully practicing unrepentant sin in darkness while professing Christ is a liar and the truth is not in him. God is light and in him there is no darkness, if we say we have not sinned we deceive ourselves, and if we confess our sin He is just and faithful to forgive us (chapter 1) But we can indeed have assurance that we know Him if we keep His commandments (chapter 2) God has promised to glorify those that follow Him as sons, and all that have this hope in them purify themselves even as He is pure (chapter 3) We love Him because He first loved us, and perfect love casteth out fear [of death] which is the strength of temptation that leads to sin (chapter 4) So by these things we know that eternal life is IN the Son, and he that has the Son has eternal life (Chapter 5) So we can know that we know Him and that we are in Him if we keep His commandments, and therefore be assured of eternal security which is IN Him (1 John 5:13)

[@BibleLine]

John does not use the term "practicing." The term is correctly translated "commit" or "do." The spirit nature in the believer cannot sin. Not once. The flesh sins daily. These things are opposed one to the other (Gal. 5:16-17). 1 John 5:13 is not a jump because the book of 1 John is not a book telling unsaved people how to get saved or saved people how to save/confirm their salvation. We know we are saved because of the blood of Christ. The book is written to edify believers to be closer to God in their walk of fellowship. This is day to day practical sanctification; abstaining from the lusts of the flesh. We do not abstain from the lusts of the flesh to be saved. Jesus declares the individual righteous the very moment he or she believes in Him as their Savior. Same Author wrote: John 1:12. 3:15-18, 5:24, 10:28-29, 11:24-26, 20:30-31. - Trent

[@JoshStribling]

​@@BibleLine commit and practice effectively mean the same thing. Practice is doing that which you are committed to, to serve that which you have yielded yourself as a servant to obey. Having received the gift of the Holy Spirit, you are instructed to follow after the Spirit rather than continuing to follow after the lust of the flesh which you indeed know leads to death and destruction. Those that follow after the Spirit are the sons of God (Romans 8), they have no condemnation because they are following after the Spirit, not after the flesh. Those that choose to follow after the flesh have no such promise in their rebellion, unless they turn to trust in Christ and follow after the Holy Spirit of Truth according to His Word. Paul uses the word yield in Romans 6, John uses commit, and Peter uses practice, but all mean the same thing... that someone is walking on the broad way that leads to destruction, and has not turned to enter into the narrow way that leads to life through the strait gate by trusting in Christ. 2 Peter 2:14 "Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:" Note that definition 1 & 4 of practice is the same as definition 4 of commit (which you gave)... Practice - "To do or perform frequently", "To commit; to perpetrate" Commit - "To do; to effect or perpetrate" webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/practice PRAC'TICE, verb transitive [From the noun. The orthography of the verb ought to be the same as of the noun; as in notice and to notice.] 1. To do or perform frequently, customarily or habitually; to perform by a succession of acts; as, to practice gaming; to practice fraud or deception; to practice the virtues of charity and beneficence; to practice hypocrisy. Isaiah 32:1. Many praise virtue who do not practice it. 2. To use or exercise any profession or art; as, to practice law or medicine; to practice gunnery or surveying. 3. To use or exercise for instruction, discipline or dexterity. [In this sense, the verb is usually intransitive.] 4. To commit; to perpetrate; as the horrors practiced at Wyoming. 5. To use; as a practiced road. [Unusual.] webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/commit COMMIT, verb transitive Literally, to send to or upon; to throw, put or lay upon. Hence, 1. To give in trust; to put into the hands or power of another; to entrust; with to. COMMIT thy way to the Lord. Psalms 37:5. The things thou hast heard of me, commit to faithful men. 2 Timothy 2:2. 2. To put into any place for preservation; to deposit; as, to commit a passage in a book to memory; to commit the body to the grave. 3. To put or sent to, for confinement; as, to commit an offender to prison. Hence for the sake of brevity, commit is used for imprison. The sheriff has committed the offender. These two were committed, at least restrained of their liberty. 4. To do; to effect or perpetrate; as, to commit murder, treason, felony, or trespass. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Exodus 20:14.

[@JoshStribling]

​@@BibleLine it also baffles me when people that try to hold your position quote John 10 starting at verse 28, rather than in verse 27 which clearly defines the THEM we see in verse 28... The "sheep" are "disciples" that Know Him, that Hear His Voice, and that Follow Him, and He gives THEM eternal life, THEM that follow after the Spirit, not after the lusts of their own flesh, not them that trust in their own self righteousness to do whatever they see as right in their own eyes rather than submitting themselves unto the righteousness of Jesus Christ to do His will which comes by trusting in Him and taking heed to continue in His Word. John 10:14 "I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." John 10:27-29 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." So what is the seal? What does it mean to know and be known in this sense? 2 Timothy 2:19 "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 15:3-7 "Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you." John 8:31-36 "Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." John 15:8-11 "Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full."

[@chrisanok9283]

​@@JoshStriblingimpressive.. you single handedly destroyed this false gospel to all that read your post.. God bless

[@Skhulu]

Hei hei praise the Lord forever more.

[@danielfraser643]

1 Peter 3:15 - " ..sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to all that ask for the reason for the Hope that you have..." So setting the Creator apart from all things as Lord over you (Lordship), having done this, be ready to answer for the HOPE of Salvation that you have. If you put salvation and assurance in the same sentence, you have remained in the delusion of Pride that Ephesians 2:8-9 describes. Christians have Hope, the Proud seek assurance.

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Thank you so much for this. John MacArthur does not preach Biblical salvation.

[@krisjustin3884]

Glad to see someone else has noticed this. He has fooled millions for decades!

[@scotthix2926]

So what does he teach?

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

@@krisjustin3884 Amen

[@BibleLine]

Thanks Abraham!! - Trent

[@theodoreritola7641]

I pray the lord Jesus Christ wakes him up faaaaaast.

[@brandoncriner5480]

I have yet to meet a Christian (including myself) who has completely repented of their sins. Lordship theology does not allow one to be freely honest with themselves and others with their own post-salvation struggles.

[@BibleLine]

Exactly. - Trent

[@randyd9805]

There is no real peace or assurance to be found in Calvinism. The only reason I've had great assurance that I'm saved is that I know that my salvation depends only upon what Christ did for me and will never depend upon what I can do for Him. This is the exact opposite of Lordship and what the wicked heresies of Calvinism teach. When Jesus says if you believe on Him, meaning you are depending only on what He did for you by paying for your sins at Calvary, then you can rest in that. If I were depending AT ALL on myself to keep myself saved all these years since 1977 I could never be certain even for a day that I was on my way to heaven and that I have eternal life that I can never lose.

[@BibleLine]

Yes! Thanks Randy. - Trent

[@randyd9805]

@@RStark-ud4dz The false teaching that regeneration precedes faith is totally unscriptural. You are regenerated the second you trust Christ as your Savior by placing your faith in Him alone and not one split second before. Besides that, Calvinism teaches the wicked doctrine of a Limited Atonement that is so utterly in opposition to what the Bible teaches it is amazing that anyone can believe it. You have to dance your way around a LOT of clear verses to teach that awful doctrine. Calvinism is warped from the T to P. None of it is accurate. However, I have by far my biggest problem with Limited Atonement and irresistible grace. Grace CAN be resisted and the atonement was made for the sins of the world, meaning not just the elect, but every person who has ever lived or will ever live. It does not mean universal salvation, but that any person who believes that Christ made the atonement for their sins can be saved by grace through faith. If you're leaning towards Calvinism you're leaning the wrong way.

[@adamcoleman7810]

@@randyd9805 No one will ever place their faith and trust in Christ alone until they are regenerated. Only those who, by the work of the Holy Spirit, are given a new heart will believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

[@randyd9805]

@@adamcoleman7810 This is totally unscriptural nonsense. You do not get regenerated before salvation. Regeneration itself IS salvation. You become a new creation in Christ WHEN you believe not before. Nothing in the Bible backs up your ludicrous statement. Quite silly frankly.

[@adamcoleman7810]

@@randyd9805 Man, in his natural state (dead in sin) cannot and will not believe unless he is regenerated. It is not silly, this is exactly the gospel that Jesus and the Apostles taught. It is also what the historic confessions have taught (Westminster Confession, London Baptist Confession, etc.)

[@thomasmarsden2276]

Fully behind every word you said there brother! God bless

[@BibleLine]

Thank you!! - Trent

[@satyadhanambolisetty7324]

When it comes to assurance of salvation, the Bible provides clear guidance. In John 10:27-29, Jesus says, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."

[@helgeevensen856]

amen! 👍

[@BibleLine]

Thanks helge! - Trent

[@libertyordeath12]

Pastor Jesse, God Bless you and your ministry for telling the Truth as revealed in the Word of God.

[@BibleLine]

Thank you!!

[@dand4485]

Would be great if you provided the actual quotes of JMac saying what you are asserting he is has said... Should be easy if you are quoting him... Listening to the commentary here about JMac, wow this guy is so far off base, and from what i've seen, learned and heard from JMac teach. This analysis is really pretty bad... From what i can tell this guys first complaint is JMac asserting Lordship salvation, didn't Christ himself ask in Luk 6:46) “Now why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Or for that matter how is one's master, man, satan or God. Or as we read in: 1 Cor 6:19 ) Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20 ) For you have been bought for a price: therefore glorify God in your body. If we are not our own then who's are we? Rom 10:11 ) For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be put to shame.” 12 ) For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; Isn't this saying God is the Lord of all, well if one is saved and born again, or one's master? Or how did Paul state it in Rom 1:1) Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, having been set apart for the gospel of God, 2) which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3) concerning His Son, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4) who was designated as the Son of God in power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord. Can't help thinking of the image of Christ in Revelations. King of Kings and Lord of Lords, could Christ be made any lower to please this guy misinformation. One must accept Christ as God, Lord, supreme sovereign ruler or not at all. In closing, would assert this guy has little context of what JMac is making and asserting in his teachings, would even assert even listening to this and knowing what JMac is saying in context, this guy is really incorrectly or really ignorant about JMac's teachings. To say JMac does not teach Biblical truth, wow...? I would go as far to say some things might be non-essentials but, i've not really heard JMac teach anything unbiblical. Would assert JMac does hold to a more Reformed position, which I'd argue is the most Biblical interpretation.

[@FlyDog79]

Pastor Martinez isn’t off base at all. Would you please provide where he is? I would listen to even one salvation message from MacArthur and you will hear what we are talking about. Pastor Jesse is right on on this.

[@dand4485]

@@FlyDog79 Sad this seems like this issue is going to become something like: 1 Cor 3:4 ) For when one person says, “I am with Paul,” and another, “I am with Apollos,” are you not ordinary people? First thing, it really seems this guy speaks in too broad generally. This guys says "JMac does not teach Biblical truth." and followed by saying around 20 seconds "Today i'm really given my advice". And the problem is this guy doesn't say "JMac says 'xxx' but the Bible says 'yyy'". This would be the first problem, and if you consider it he is being rather hypocritical. Why does he complains JMac does not teach biblical truth while he himself is only giving his own advice as he himself says, so he isn't teaching "Biblical Truth" himself, sure reminds me of Rom 2...? Next the point it seems problematic is JMac would be more reformed, which from both his comments and yours @Delta Charlie, honestly sounds both of you are not really familiar with the precepts. While the problem it seems the person not sure of their salvation, good chance they may not be. Consider: 1 John 5:13 ) These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. The point is anyone born again will know that you have eternal life. Anyone not clear... Might assert they could be a good, well behaved church going, going along for the ride... Mat 7:20) So then, you will know them by their fruits. 21) “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22) Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23) And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ 24) “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. My point those who Christ is going to say depart to, sound just like this guy not sure about his own salvation simply because he is unsure and doesn't know. Would agree many young believers go through this stage, and the reason for one to be discipled and taught properly, but he impression it seems the person with the letter appears they have been supposedly been a Christian for a while... While one of my biggest complaints with this guy, as much as I've listened to JMac and studied the word myself, honestly can't think of anything where i've heard JMac teach something false... Would agree JMac is more reformed and that is a huge point of contention for those who want a man centered gospel where man is lord and not God. But honestly seems you didn't really read my comments. You don't believe God is Lord? And for those born again He is not the Lord of? Who's disciples are people if God is not Lord, King, and sovereign of? But in the end didn't really hear a qualified point where JMac is teaching something false. The quotes this guy uses are at best taken out of context or with very little understand of either what JMac teaches as well as what the Bible would teach. To end this quickly and show me i'm off... How about you point me to a sermon from JMac where he is teaching an incorrect message of salvation, should be easy as this is what JMac is being accused of. Or is the accusation baseless and false as I'd assert it is. Or is it perfectly fine to be a false witness slandering another for saying something which another thinks they said, but no evidence. So great provide any sermon where JMac is teaching heresy... And even better use scripture as JMac too is only a human, let God be true and His message not some man's...

[@FlyDog79]

@@dand4485 oh I’ve listened to plenty of MacArthur sermons. Clearly you have not done so with Pastor Jesse. For you to ask for an example of when MacArthur teaches a works gospel you only need to listen to any message about salvation from him and I challenge you to listen to any message from Pastor Jesse and don’t take my word for it but compare what Pastor Jesse says to the Word. Don’t want to seem rude at all to you but when you write it’s really an overload of information, or words rather so I have an idea to see where we both stand. Let’s do this: tell me how I am saved? Please answer that one question in your next response and we can work through scripture to see where we don’t align. I’ll even go first. A man is saved when he places his faith in Christ ALONE apart from works. I’ll even use John 3:16 and Ephesians 2:8-9 as ‘witness statements’. Do you agree with that? If not, explain why please with supporting biblical texts, and not statements from a guy like MacArthur. Thank you and I look forward to having this discussion with you for everyone else to see.

[@dand4485]

@@FlyDog79 Sorry the burden is on you to provided where JMac is off. I'm not the one falsely accusing a person of doing something they haven't. As you mentioned you've listened to JMac a lot, so then it should be easy to do it if is truthful, if in fact as purported here he doesn't teach anything true... Well all call the bluff... Show it... As we would read in: Ex 20:16) “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. I'm saying your claims are false... Make good on your claim and prove it... There is one that accuses, he was a liar from the beginning as the Bible says test each spirit to see who it is of... I will assert you can't provide anything where JMac is off. Well i'll assert if you can't provided it as you claim... I'm not the one asserting the claim i'm asserting is false, the responsibility to prove your points is you, you made the claim and the Bible is clear if you accuse someone the burden to prove it is on you. Then again love seeing you bless JMac... Mat 5:11) “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Just that i wouldn't care to align myself with satan, the father of lies...

[@FlyDog79]

@@dand4485 Interesting. You won’t/can’t answer how to get saved but you talk the way you do? Well, on the bright side you’ve come to the right place! We want you to know how to be saved! That’s why this channel exists. Also though, be aware that a lot of people on this channel, to include myself, spent years and even decades lost on the hamster wheel of lordship salvation and I take it personal when people come to this channel and try and drag people back into it. Know if you try that you will meet resistance. We contend for the truth on this channel. I’ll be happy to write back the plan of salvation if you would like! Or just simply watch the last 5 minutes of any Pastor Jesse or Pastor Arnold sermon.

[@richardthorne2804]

Its not easy to believe but its simple. Isaiah opens up the 53rd chapter with this. It’s not easy because people don’t want to be accountable to God. Thank God we are saved by putting our faith in Christ and what He did for us on the cross. It’s not a license to sin rather a license to serve.

[@BibleLine]

Well stated. Thank you! - Trent

[@DamirVidovic-pf2pk]

If Jesus isn't your Lord, you Aren't saved !

[@BibleLine]

He is everyone’s Lord. He literally is Lord. Now if you are claiming that we have to put him preeminently first as Lord in our lives in order to be saved, then you would be incorrect. - Trent

[@BibleLine]

Explain

[@BibleLine]

You dictated that we are heretics. I want to know why. Chat with us! - Trent

[@leighastjohn8612]

​@BibleLine Trent, my name is Leigha. I just want you to know how blessed I am to watch Calvary's videos, and I have been reading your comments. I came to a simple, childlike faith in Christ after many years of confusion, utter torment, and religious OCD. A man named Richard Fulton shared the true gospel with me that all I had to do was trust what Jesus Christ had already done on the cross to pay for ALL my sins and raised from the dead, as God accepted His full atonement for my sins. I have and will forever believe that simple message of how my Savior fully and completely saved me by His own body on the cross, and I completely trust in Him for that. I do not understand why so many people want to attack and argue against the most precious, sacred, and simple message that even a child could understand. I just want to encourage my brother (Trent) in whom I've never met, that you are so strong to persevere in contending for the faith that was once delivered to us. If Jesus accomplished the full and complete atonement for all my sin and entered into heaven in my place, then there is nothing stopping me. That makes me WANT to love and serve Him. Yes, I still have certain sin struggles and attitudes, and thinking patterns that I need to trust God to help me grow and transform, but I know right now I have eternal life, because I trust in what Christ did for me. It was enough, and I'm complete in Christ, lacking nothing. People want to argue about all these verses but they miss the forest for all the trees. They miss the whole point. The cross is the key that unlocks all the rest of scripture, and the entirety of the Bible points us to the promised Savior even from Genesis 3:15. How could we ever believe we have a part. We are His workmanship, and when we believe on the finished work of Christ as our only hope, we are then born into God's family as babes in Christ, and He can then begin to transform our lives as we become conformed to His image and yield to His word, but I was born before I obeyed. I don't say this to you because I don't think you know it, I say it because I pray someone will read it and understand, and be encouraged. It is His goodness and love that leads us to repentance. I have NEVER once ever wanted to remain in my sin or have a license to sin. I want to be reconciled to my Father, and that is why I trust in Christ. I was sinning just fine before I ever applied for a license lol. God bless you, Yankee, Jesse and the whole church of Calvary. With love and encouragement, Leigha (your sister in Christ)

[@leighastjohn8612]

I wanted to clarify that I was born (born again) upon initial faith in the gospel message of Christ, before I ever did any good work, or obeyed any of Jesus' commands. I obeyed the first command which was to believe on the one in whom He hath sent. Born first, then learn to walk and obey.

[@FrankAndSenseDSM]

John 6:29 - "The only work God wants is to believe the one he sent." Jesus said that. So works isn't required...just faith right? I do like how you said at 8:49...."and that is true how we demonstrate our faith to other men." James 2:18 - You have faith. I have deeds. How can you have faith if you don't have deeds? I will show you my faith by my deeds." James was speaking to other humans with that...right? I am new to all of this. Just trying to understand it!

[@dallas41891]

We are transitioning to a new pastor and I'm wondering if there's ways to know if somebody is a lordship teacher. Is there a question that will expose that easily because it seems like it sneaks in and I don't really know how to go about about asking.

[@jeffreydrhodes]

What is your take on the NIFB?

[@markdiblasi3061]

But now it is no longer I who do it but sin that lives in me. Rom 7:17,20 . The new man can never sin, the old man can never repent or stop sin.

[@nigelreid186]

Good job overall. I think in our efforts to emphasize holiness, serving the Lord, and that we want people to know that that is part of the Christian life (since we see so many neglecting the importance of those things) that we put the cart before the horse by including it when discussing the gospel which is dangerous. We are to believe the gospel, then from there is the call to pick up our cross, die to ourselves, forsake the ways of the world, and serve God. For we were created in christ Jesus to do good works, but these works do not save us. It is always by the same as what we did at the beginning - by faith and it will be the same until Jesus comes - the righteousness for which we hope. That aside, I do agree with Macarthur that saving faith does transform the heart as God said he will give us new heart and move us to obey Him and there are other scriptures that support that our hearts desires change which the end result is in action. However, that ultimate fruit (behavior change) takes time to be manifested so we should be careful not to judge.

[@markdiblasi3061]

At the name of Jesus every née shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God. We don’t make him LORD he is Lord already, God makes him Lord.

[@Michael_Anthony05]

Its funy i watched one video of john Macarthur and i figured him out real fast. if you, 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. you will spot false doctrine and false teachers. Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: If it does not line up with the bible it is not true, study, study, and you will not go wrong guys.

[@wib50]

Huge amen, great job exposing mcarther, he is a wolf. Great point about what kind of gospel sharer is someone going to be who is not even sure of thier own salvation.

[@BibleLine]

Thank you!! - Trent

[@iseultmackinnon8197]

I would love to see a Lordship salvationist sell all their possessions and give it to the poor and to give some of their weekly wages to the poor and to rely on God, like an animal, for all their needs while spending all their free time preaching the gospel and doing charity work.

[@BeMoreAwareGodWatches]

Thank you for this distinction!! Once you’re born again and you put your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, your good works and service have to do with *eternal rewards* not salvation… “Christ is become no effect unto you whoever of you are justified by the law ye are fallen from grace, grace comes through faith in Jesus Christ (HIS FINISHED WORK), and no other means. to seek salvation apart from Christ is to fall away from the opportunity for grace”. Galatians 5:4…in other words… Either you do the work for it or Christ did the work for it. And we all know none of us can do the work. Period. None of us can turn from sin 100% in these bodies. Repentance is not about “turning from sin”. It’s about turning from yourself to Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and breaking God’s laws. Yes, we should read the Bible. Yes, we should daily die to ourselves. Yes, we should depend on God every single day, but that’s not a salvation issue. This is just my two cents.

[@dirkh.matthee7099]

Hi Jesse, I hope you are well! Thank you for truthful preaching of the one true gospel of Grace.I am a saved sinner and will always be one until the corruption of this flesh is put off by the incurruptible one that Jesus will give me upon the rapture, when we will be changed. As I have indicated in a previous comment, I used to be stuck on the doctrine of calvinist men (Piper, MacArthur, Sproul, Washer, etc.), which became an absolute unbearable burden for me to carry. I find very little Grace preached by Mr MacArthur's church which, ironically and self-damningly, is called "Grace Bible Church". If we believe that Jesus is God who came in the flesh, God's Word tells us that we have the Holy Spirit. Conversely, those who do not believe this, do not have the Holy Spirit. One man, who was a saved sinner, who preached more Grace, in my opinion, in one of his sermons than all of the aforementioned 4 gentlemen put together in all of their sermons, was Ravi Zacharias. The Word teaches us where sin abounds, Grace abounds greater. Perhaps that is why Ravi understood and preached Grace so well and humbly, because he knew the extent of his own sin and therefore the magnitude of Grace. I was very, very upset at the judgemental approach that so many pastors took after Ravi's "fall from Grace" was revealed. In fact, if I remember correctly (and if I'm wrong, I will apologise publicly) when John MacArthur was asked whether, in his opinion, Ravi was in heaven, he said that he doubted if Ravi was saved in the first place. In my opinion, based on Ravi's publicly declared belief and on God's promises in His Word, Ravi is with the Lord, having not "fallen from Grace", since it is not possible to fall from Grace, as God's hand of Grace is holding ours in His Godly grip. I am not holding onto Grace, Grace is carrying and holding me. It is when we elevate works that we start believing that we are desperately holding on by our finger nails to God's mercy. One Pastor...I don't remember who it was...put it well. He said : 'When you start elevating your sin above God's Grace, you are committing a greater sin than the sin you are trying to elevate". I mourn and pray for people who are trapped in calvinism. In fact, just yesterday I prayed, saying to God : "Father, I will never believe that you are a calvinist, because then you would never have sent your Son, who is the embodiment of Grace. Lord, if you are the God of the calvinists, I am sorry...forgive me...but then I can no longer worship You, because then you are not the God that the Bible has taught me of. Thank you that you are the Father of Jesus Christ and the God of Grace!" I hope you are all blessed by the knowledge and assurance of salvation through God's Grace in Jesus' complete work on the cross. With love and blessings, from Dirk in South Africa...a sinful believer.

[@ICallitTheWeave]

Hi, learning here. Enjoying the channel. What is the counter to the "even the demons believe" rebuttal? Thanks

[@generalmoonstone]

Ask that person what it is the demons believe. Then when they read all of the verse, ask them when believeing in one God ever saved anyone.

[@helgeevensen856]

it is allowed to be passionate when someone is corrupting the gospel, whoever he may be....

[@zebra2346]

Pastor, I recently discovered you. You are super sharp and a real blessing to me. Instantly subbed. I especially appreciate your ministry against Calvinism focusing much on the P in TULIP, basically Lordship Salvation. This is so destructive, and people will end up in Hell believing in this garbage. God bless

[@zebra2346]

@RStark-ud4dz While it is true that salvation is hard and few will make it, it is not because they didn't try hard enough by repenting of sins, keeping the Law, obedience, and submitting to the Lordship of Christ. There are no Scriptures that support any other necessary condition for Salvation other than faith/believing in Jesus Christ. Salvation is hard because people like you can not accept the utter simplicity of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ apart from the works of the law. And there are many people like you. There are no verses that explicitly state that we are saved by any other way other than faith in Jesus Christ. I have listed about 35 verses below that faith in Jesus Christ is the only necessary condition for salvation, and God made this fact crystal clear. Unbelief is the only sin that can not be forgiven. If you do not believe the massive number of verses below, then you are an unbeliever. When a person like you can not accept the utter simplicity of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ apart from works, you are calling God a liar. Please be careful to obey the Gospel command to believe in Jesus Christ for your salvation and not add a single work to the Gospel. Read every verse below and believe the Gospel. Btw, I don't need Calvinism to explain how I am saved. Calvinism is man-made Philosophy and not at all biblical God's Word is sufficient And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, Romans 4:5 Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. Galatians 2:16 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose. Galatians 2:21 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Romans 3:28 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” Galatians 3:11 And be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith- Philippians 3:9 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Romans‬ ‭10:4‬ For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. Romans 3:20 ‭Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, and brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Acts‬ ‭16:29‭-‬31‬ ‭ Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Galatians‬ ‭3:2‭-‬3‬ ‭ You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. Galatians‬ ‭5:4‬ For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.‭ Romans 6:23 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: and by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. ‭‭Acts 13:38-39 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: ‭‭1 Corinthians 15:3-4 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. ‭‭Romans 1:16-17 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. ‭‭Romans 10:13 To Him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.” ‭‭Acts 10:43 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame." Romans‬ ‭10:10-11‬ Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 5:1 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Galatians 3:8 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Romans‬ ‭4:2‭-‬3‬ ‭ Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.‭ Galatians 3:13-14 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.‭‭ John 3:36 Notes on John 3:36 [When Jesus said, "whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life", He was likely referencing His command to repent and believe the Gospel in Mark 1:15 “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent and believe in the gospel.” ‭Mark 1:15 (Repent=change one's mind. Mark 1:15 does not say, "Repent of your sins")] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. ‭John 3:14-15 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3: 14-16 ‭ Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. ‭‭John 6:47 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. ‭‭John 3:18 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? ‭‭John 11:25-26 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. ‭‭John 12:46 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. ‭1 John 5:13 But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. John 20:31 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through FAITH in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which BELIEVITH in Jesus. ‭‭Romans 3:23-26

[@anthonylusardi8789]

EXCELLENT TEACHING. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUE GOSPEL OF GODS FREE GRACE!

[@anthonylusardi8789]

@@RStark-ud4dz YOU QUOTE R.C. SPROUL WHICH WAS A FALSE TEACHER, JESUS SAID MY YOKE IS EASY AND MY BURDEN IS LIGHT! HOW HARD IS IT TO RECIEVE A GIFT? NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED(PRESENT TENSE) US. FOR BY GRACE ARE YOU SAVED THROUGH FAITH AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD, NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. JESUS DID THE HARD PART FOR US AND WE RECEIVE SALVATION BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE. THOSE WHO BELIEVE HAVE ENTERED HIS REST. IT'S ONLY HARD WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO EARN YOUR SALVATION. IF THAT'S THE CASE IT'S NO LONGER GRACE BUT OF WORKS. THE GOSPEL IS SO SIMPLE, THE FALSE TEACHERS HAVE CORRUPTED THE SIMPLICITY THAT'S IN CHRIST. THEY ARE ACCURSED ACCORDING TO GALATIANS 1:8 HAVE A BLESSED DAY

[@vintage53-coversandorigina37]

Pastor Martinez, how do I know I can trust the Bible’s we have today since I’ve heard we have no original copies of the New Testament gospels or letters?

[@BibleLine]

That's a question that is well worth a long answer, but in short we can trust the Bible held in our hands today. Particularly we trust the KJV as it is closest to the correct manuscripts of today. We do not have the old manuscripts simply because they decay, and they get used so much that they fell apart over time. One thing we can find is that the scripture (again, we trust the KJV) does not contradict itself, and it has no errors (minus that of a few translational errors here and there, but these do not change any doctrines either way). If you would like more information and resources, you can email us at [e-mail]

[@halilalexanderzeverboom6872]

Calvinism isn't the problem, i'm a 5 point Calvinist myself. The problem is people who claim to be Protestant/Reformed and Calvinistic but who are deep down only Calvinistic and not Protestant/Reformed in the deepest core. I'm a Calvinist and i resent lordship salvation as heresy. As the slogan goes: all Reformers are Calvinists, but not every Calvinist is Reformed. Lordship salvation are Rome's extending tentacles.

[@BibleLine]

Well, there may be some distinctions in certain aspects, but the 5 points of TULIP are heresy. God did not choose some to be saved and others to go to hell. He allows all to have the opportunity to believe in Jesus Christ as Savior. Feel free to elaborate, or you can send us questions or an email at [e-mail] - Trent

[@halilalexanderzeverboom6872]

@@BibleLine I kicked against the doctrines myself for years brother. God revealed it as truth and He had His way to reveal it. He allowed me to get into contact with someone suffering NPD (full blown narcissism) i fell in love with her and tried to lead her to Christ. I didn't even know what i was dealing with since i did not know something like this even existed. He used it mightfully. He also answered my cries how to deal with the sadness of her lost state and how to cope with the intense sadness. His answer was two words expectation/disappointment which lead to don't expect it from yourself, not from her, in which it was clear to me He said to expect it from Him by prayer only. Satan attacked me 3 days straight on that with the thought: if God has said not to expect it from yourself or from her, did God also said to expect it from Him? After 3 days i was exhausted and i aksed the Lord for help/wisdom and later that day during work Genesis 3 came to mind how satan approached Eve: has God indeed said? Then i knew i was under attack. This will keep me praying ofcourse knowing He will not disappoint. This lead me to Calvinism then i started to understand that it us God Who repents people and not people themselves. Now, to prove it by Scripture, i believe the Bible shows clear evidence that there is double predestination. For the believers we can know this by Christ's words in the Gospel of John. John 15:16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. We also know the verses in Romans 8:29-30. Incase of the unbelievers we know this from Peter. 1 Peter 2:6-10 (read verse 8 closely) Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.” Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy. They are appointed to stumble, the question is by who they are appointed? I know by who, but for you i think it's not. I hope this helps. God bless brother.

[@BibleLine]

I understand what you’re saying, but I have a question. Did Jesus shed his blood for all, or did He only die for the elect? If the former is true, you need be careful of accepting Calvinistic theology. If the latter is true, then what you’re saying might be true. I also heed you be careful not to trust in experiences or feelings, but rather to see what the scripture clearly states. If John wrote “For God so loved the world…” then we need to believe he meant the whole world. Also see 1 John 2:2, and 1 Tim 2:4 (even in context). I say these things in love, in hopes to reach you with truth. - Trent

[@halilalexanderzeverboom6872]

@@BibleLine To answer this question properly i first have to ask a question back towards you to understand where you are standing brother. The faith that you have in Jesus Christ our precious Lord, is that something that came forth from your will and therefor brought forward by your willpower? The answer will give me clearance and my answer will follow after i know your thoughts and position on this. God bless brother. ❤️🙏🏼

[@BibleLine]

The Bible is clear that God gives everyone the free will to believe. This actually shows how great his sovereignty really is. Therefore to answer you, it was my own choice (my own will if you desire) to believe in Jesus Christ. But even for those who don’t believe, did Christ shed his blood for them? - Trent

[@evanwildermann7034]

I was a mormon then a armenian charismatic now im just a christian who trusts on the lord you know when i was an armenian i couldnt understand alot of things in the bible i fell away if thats the term you want to use lord reached out to me one day on christian youtube dont know how the algorithm found me but praise god joe kirby who is a debatable armenian popped up and i redicated myself but still found the thing that made me walk away in the first place i kept praying for wisdom and eventually found free grace theology and i felt a peace beyond all understanding and joy what a wonderful god we have saving a wretch like me its funny i read the bible so many times but you cant understand it unless your faith is pure lordship heresy just creates blindeness and ignorance like a modern day jew

[@SonoftheKing316]

AMEN ❤ Love you brother Jesse

[@educational4434]

The challenge is that the person at home is supposed to rely on the Holy Spirit to discern truth from the Bible and then they think they have the truth and understanding of something. And the man on KZbin behind the pulpit also is supposed to rely on the Holy Spirit to discern truth from the Bible and then they think they have the truth and understanding of something. So who has the true truth and understanding of something given to them by the Holy Spirit when these two people's understanding conflict? The person at home? Or the person on KZbin behind the pulpit?

[@John3.36]

Context is Calvinism's mortal enemy. Don't outsource your spiritual understanding to 'wise men' like MacArthur, Piper, or Washer. Doing so is basically a form of worldliness and worldly wisdom.

[@wausaugamecam9951]

Thank you for this, I found it very helpful.

[@wretch1]

Thank you. I'm just confused about your reference to calvinism. It what way does calvinism teach lordship salvation? Thanks again

[@John3.36]

Soteriology 101 = look it up

[@edhoening4654]

well if you keep your flock in fear, and they hang on your word, and not the word of the gospel, you can turn them into merchandise, is that in the bible? yes it is peter 2 chapter 2 1-3, Look it up its biblical. I always like some preachers who say study the bible, that's where the truth is, then say buy my book it tells you what the bible really means?????????????

[@DJ-il8iv]

You can make that Bible agree with any theology. That’s why we need to RIGHTLY DIVIDE

[@ethelborja1413]

How would you explain the book of James?

[@TedFarabee]

Context. James was combating a Christian sect of laziness. You have to rightly divide the book carefully. We apply all Bible to our lives personally when the text is dealing with an issue in the past. Not dividing the word of truth correctly can cause you to get into weird theology. If faith without works is dead, then Jesus lied when he said, 'It is FINISHED'. Then, how much work saves you? That's not answered in scripture making the doctrine specious. Also, the thief couldn't be with Jesus that very day in heaven. No works. Also, Calvinism is terrifying!

[@FlyDog79]

@@TedFarabee amen!

[@theresa42213]

@@TedFarabee ~ What about _lf anyone wishes to follow Me he must deny himself, pick up his cross and follow Me.''_ ~ Matthew 6:24 Also, when Paul says _''Be ye not deceived. Neither fornicators, nor drunkards, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor liars shall inherit the kingdom of God''_ 1 Corinthians 6:9? Jesus said _ALL must repent ...or PARISH._ l WANT so bad to repent from a bad sin, but sometimes struggle. :(

[@dewaldgrobler1781]

@@theresa42213 it will be a struggle until the day you go to be with the Lord. But take heart for He Himself is with you and is teaching/training you into Godliness (Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope -the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ)

[@cotydanger4071]

@@theresa42213 Keep reading in 1 Cor 6. Look at verse 11. What does it say?

[@sharamadsen3080]

Where does Calvin teach this? I’ve studied his teachings very carefully and have not seen anything resembling Lordship Salvation. Calvin teaches that God authors our faith AND our good works, and has a high emphasis on His sovereignty. There are some modern preachers, who are not reformed (confessional) but do adhere to SOME of Calvin’s teachings (mainly the TULIP doctrines). However, Calvin did not teach lordship salvation.

[@sharamadsen3080]

Also, I agree that people need to study God’s word, and can’t rely on KZbin teachers. However, I would add, that God has ordained to use the local church (through the prayers of other believers, proclamation of the guarded gospel, church structure maintaining the purity of the teaching, and being knit with the body of believers) as a HUGE way that the Holy Spirit teaches us the word.

[@BibleLine]

Hey Shara! Well, the final point of TULIP (P - Perseverance of the saints) is essentially Lordship salvation. The individual is producing works to show that they are saved. If they do not produce works, then they were never saved to begin with. This is error because works are not automatic in the life of the believer. Believers are supposed to maintain good works, but it is a thing commanded; it is not automatically done. Lordship salvation is works for salvation regardless of whether you put it at the front of salvation or at the end. The common phrase "make Jesus Lord of your life" is used to illustrate this, but at the root, works for salvation is all this is. Jesus made the full payment for sin, and all an individual needs to do (and has the free will to do) is believe in Jesus Christ that he made full payment for their sin. They accept His death for their sin, and they are saved. Telling people to make Him Lord, or telling people that works are proof of salvation are erroneous, confusing and heretical teachings that we need to avoid in the presentation of the gospel message. - Trent

[@sabinamccaul586]

"And you hath he quickened who were dead in trespasses and sins" A dead man cannot do anything until ge is quickened. "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" A dead man is quickened then he can hear the word and believe" I believe the reformed doctrines is being misrepresented here. The reformed doctrines really exalts God as the author of Salvation.

[@BibleLine]

Again, the word of God needs to be placed above any reformed doctrines. Ephesians 2:1 does not claim people are so dead that they cannot even believe. “Faith” is not the gift, but “salvation” is. Let the word speak instead of the doctrines of famous men. - Trent

[@wib50]

We're does human effort, or free will play in?

[@noles9998]

John MacArthur tries to mix the criteria of discipleship with salvation.

[@storytellaz5503]

I listen to them for a long time, all it did was make me doubt my salvation. Now I base everything off does the Bible say it or not

[@itistao]

What does “believe”mean? How do you know you are a believer?

[@BibleLine]

Believe is to accept a stated or implied truth. Christ died for my sins. I believe in that truth. I’m saved. - Trent

[@jimkraft9445]

Thank you Jesse for dividing the word of God correctly. Galatians 2:21. Galatians 3:1. Galatians 3:3.

[@keithclark8030]

They confuse discipleships vs trusting. Lordship Salvation is based on what you do.

[@garyburns1033]

Bibleline is Awesome 👏 God Bless ‘Em ❤Folks if You Want a Biblical Channel to learn and Fellowship with, This is a Channel to Subscribe to and watch and listen but follow along in your Bible.

[@truthnow902]

There is no such thing as lordship salvation!!! It's not biblical it's not in the Bible ain't nobody believes this kind of lie and deception so why are people preaching the garbage?

[@MyRoBeRtBaKeR]

Let's break that down. You don't agree that the Gospel is to make disciples of Jesus, is that right? Then you disagree that Jesus should be Lord over you, the power over your head? Then you disagree that a follower of Jesus doesn't need to empty himself, his pride and be humble and do all that is commanded? Because that's what I heard from you. There's your problem your convoluting obedience by calling it works. If I tell my child to take out the trash, is he trying to earn my acceptance by obeying me, or is he being an obedient child? You say the call to calvary is to believe. You can not get to calvary on believing alon, if so the devil and his angels would not only tremble but they would also fear. Philippians 2:12 King James Version 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Is Paul suggesting for us to earn our salvation? Or is he encouraging his brethren to never let their guard down? There is that word I imagine you don't like, OBEY. We should also fear the Lord and that fear will provoke us to keep us from doing the one thing that can, and will separate us even if we are seeking repentance with tears: Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. There is that unfairness again "BUT HE DOES THE WILL OF THE FATHER", obedience to the Father alone. But to my point that iniquity can separate them that work iniquity, even in the Lords rest, can be cast out: 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Believe in, is that an empty believe, or are we believing in something? How about this, believ in this: John 14:6 King James Version 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. So let us forget all the Scriptures that tell you that you will be persecuted, killed, that your family will disown you etc, etc? Do you think Jesus would say hmHis path was easy? It's not, it's hard and the hardest part truly is having to remain in this flesh where you are reminded of all the world that you had pleasure in and it warring against the new creature the Father is teaching you to be? I'm going to end here but I hope you all dive into the Word hotdogs and study to be approved, you must be approved, in Jesus name.

[@KeepingWatch95]

Paul was a false apostle, that's one of the main reasons you find all these contrarywise doctrines, because they follow Paul who was preaching a contrarywise gospel. See Galatians. Paul was a Pharisee and a hypocrite.

[@frankw.1721]

another preacher to watch out for is the guy that promotes a “ministry” called DTBM. He ran the “shepherding” program at macarthurs church.

[@RodneyBurr]

Salvation begins with Acts 2:38 the beginning of the spiritual walk with GOD

[@latromster]

If you deny the objectivity of the promise (God's will is for *ME* to be saved and he has provided everything needed for it to become a reality in my life) faith loses its object and starts to live a life of its own where the assurance is sought in internal illuminatio and infused grace.

[@gregorylatta8159]

Backloading works defines Calvinism.

[@BibleLine]

Yes absolutely. - Trent

[@36742650885]

We All must be Born Again we cannot obey God without God

[@BibleLine]

This is true. The person must choose to believe in Christ, then they have the Spirit which allows the to obey the Lord. - Trent

[@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337]

BELIEVE ! IN THE WORDS OF CHRIST. Luke 6 ; 46 , Luke 6 : 48 and 49.

[@VidalHerrera-w7w]

Alot of people grew up in church and apparently don't know the simplest things.

[@weobeyjesus4565]

It gives assurance the person is currently saved, just no assurance they will remain saved.

[@BibleLine]

We can be sure from the moment we believe in Christ that we are saved forever. Salvation status never changes once the individual simply believes in Jesus Christ for the full payment of their sin. 1 John 5:10-13 - Trent

[@weobeyjesus4565]

@@BibleLine What if they change their belief to atheism? He who does not believe shall be condemned (Mark 16;16).

[@BibleLine]

Mark 16:16 is just as true as John 3:18; absolutely. It isn’t a continual belief though. Every time you sin is an absence of trusting in God to some degree. When you sin, you essentially call God a liar - 1 John 1. The one time moment of belief in Christ is what eternally secures you. This is because you believed in Christ. You are immediately adopted into the family, justified, set apart, chosen to a task, and sealed with the Spirit. This never reverses. Notice John 5:24 puts the belief in past tense and the condemnation is no longer possible in the future. If a believer were to stop believing, God cannot deny himself. The believer is still His child. God knows them that are His - 2 Timothy 2:11-19. Notice verse 19 also says that believers ought to depart from iniquity! A believer will face severe, regrettable consequences for turning from the faith, but hell is NEVER on that list. - Trent

[@seekingtheoncesaved2834]

How does telling someone to periodically examine themselves to make sure they really got saved give them assurance that they are saved?

[@seekingtheoncesaved2834]

@@RStark-ud4dz in Ezekiel 33:13 God says they "will surely live", yet they turn away and perish. You don't really teach that God can tell someone they will live without true genuine faith do you? And If you admit that it's people with genuine faith spoken of here that fall away, please explain how everyone with genuine faith is the elect...

[@truthseekers1620]

what did paul and silas tell the jailor? they told him to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ

[@truthseekers1620]

also paul said if anyone brings a different gospel than the one we brought you even an angel let him be cursed

[@JoshStribling]

Romans 10:1-4 makes it very clear that you must submit yourself unto God's righteousness rather than going about to establish your own self-righteousness. 1 John 2:3-6 makes it VERY clear that you CAN indeed know 100% that you KNOW that you know Christ, IF you keep His commandments. Romans 8 clearly establishes the fact that "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (v. 14) hence "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (v. 1) Galatians 5 & 6 make it even further clear that those who confess to know Christ must follow after the Spirit. Those that choose to follow after the lusts of the flesh instead shall reap corruption and shall not inherit the kingdom. Jesus Christ IS Lord, that is not the question. The only question then are you going to confess that He is Lord, and submit to His righteousness through faith which is IN Christ Jesus? OR are you going to profess him with your lips while your heart is far from Him, therefore denying Him by your rebellious actions in unbelief. No one can do good works to save themselves, but those who faithfully follow after the Spirit will bring forth good fruit with patience as the Spirit works in their heart by the Word of God. And by this fruit, by examining yourself to see that you are keeping His commandments as His love is perfected in you, then you CAN know that you know Him, and you can be assured that you have eternal life stored up for you in heaven IN the Son, which is promised to all that abide in Him faithfully to the end with patience. You don't need to be assured of any security in and of yourself, you just need to continue to trust in the One who is able to keep you by His Word if you abide in Him, not being moved away from the hope of the gospel. John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 6:68 "Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life." John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 15:3-12 "Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you." 1 John 2:3-11 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes. 1 John 5:11-13 "And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:17-21 "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen." The good fruit (Paul) or good works (James) of keeping Christ's commandments is evidence (especially to ourselves for assurance) that we have repented from the broad way that leads to death (Sin) unto the narrow way that leads to life (Righteousness), through the strait gate which is faith in Christ.

[@MrmorethanCnqrer]

Thanks brother

[@MariusVanWoerden]

Don't mislead people many claim to be saved, saying by faith alone, but faith is never alone. Read your Bible. Mathew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ I go with True salvation is followed by a new life. Never lost is never saved. Many think they are save by believing without the conviction of Sin. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it.

[@truthnow902]

Okay I'm going to try to keep this simple Matthew 7 is exactly what you were doing I'm sorry to have to see it but someone has to speak the truth, I don't see anybody on here I have watched a lot of videos say anything that you're saved by just works so you guys that are preaching this are coming against the word of God and making up your own stories cuz we are only saved through our savior Lord in Jesus Christ. So where is this works base coming from I'm interested to know how are you coming up with this? I have read the Bible I have been studying the Bible for 20 years. So I think this is what you are saying all you do is believe in Jesus have faith and believe that he died for you and you will make it to heaven and you could still live your life the way you have been living it before you had faith in Jesus and you will be saved. This is what I am getting am I right or wrong? God Bless.

[@Eric_Reborn]

The people in Matthew 7 boasted about their works. The will of the father is to believe on Jesus you can see that in John 6:40 so the reason those people don't go to heaven is because they didn't place their faith in Jesus and rather relies on their works which the Bible clearly says isn't how to get saved

[@truthnow902]

@@Eric_Reborn yes that's because they were relying on the works to save them and not the blood of Jesus, you need to believe and have faith first then the works will follow after that because of your faith I'm not sure why people struggle with this it's in the Bible!!!!

[@Eric_Reborn]

@truthnow902 well the thing people need to understand is that a believer has 2 nature's the fleshly nature desiring sin and spirit nature where they desire righteousness aka good works at times the believer more than likely will fall into temptation and follow the fleshly nature. Question becomes how many works is enough to know for sure you're saved? Unbelievers can do a lot of good works too. This is how people struggle with assurance.

[@truthnow902]

@@Eric_Reborn yes I definitely agree with you this is how the struggle with assurance, but we also have to be very careful because the devil is deceiving there is a lot of Christians out there that say they believe but they don't and you can tell that by their actions their deeds and their works, this is why many will call themselves Christians and they're not so we need to be able to discern the spirits you will know them by their fruits a bad tree cannot bear good fruits a good tree cannot bear bad fruits, so if someone is walking around calling themselves a Christian and they're bearing bad fruit well sining we know they're not a Christian and they are a liar, so once we truly believe the desires of the flesh is gone because we live in Jesus in Jesus lives in US in Jesus says that when this happens we are free from the bondage of sin but there is no sin in Jesus so if we believe in our faith and we live in Jesus we should not be sining, because we are broken from the bondage of sin now we take up our cross and walk with righteousness with Jesus who lives in US!!!!

[@Eric_Reborn]

@truthnow902 We need to properly understand what the Bible means by fruit though... Matthew 12:33-37 and galations 5:22-23 clear that up a lot because a lot of people simply think fruits is synonymous with works in the Bible and based off those 2 verses that isn't exactly the case

[@cavalier973]

“Salvation is a free gift, but it will cost you everything.” This is an asinine statement.

[@jeffcarlson3269]

why do people assume that belief in Lordship Salvation and Calvinism are intertwined... they are Not... Lordship Salvation simply means that once we trust in the Lord as our Savior.. we also allow Him to be the Lord of our Lives.. many who argue against Lordship Salvation state they do Not believe in Lordship Salvation.. because allowing Jesus to be the Lord of our lives is a "WORK".. "Say What?!" first of all being obedient to God should NEVER be considered some "work ".. that a believer needs to do for the Lord.. secondly.. Our Salvation is Not based on whether we allow Jesus to be Lord of our lives or Not.. but One simple question.. If Jesus is a great enough God to Save us.. why wouldn't any allow Him to also be our Master?.. THAT is what I have a problem with... those who would call themselves Christians.. and will Not allow God to "own", them.. do they Not know that they belong to God and have been bought with a price..?. Perhaps the ones who do Not believe in Lordship Salvation.. are only "pseudo-Christians".. fooling themselves and those around them.. perhaps they do Not really love God at all.. I would DIE for my Jesus..

[@KeepingWatch95]

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation...

[@KeepingWatch95]

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

[@KeepingWatch95]

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation...

[@KeepingWatch95]

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

[@truthseekers1620]

you did not earn your salvation you can not lose what you did not earn. we still sin but we are no longer under the power of sin and death Christ made sure of that

[@JeanBaldwinDreyfus]

Its true its getting hard to me share my faith, the gospel.