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@KUDANTOURAGE
@KUDANTOURAGE 15 жыл бұрын
The cosine rule is the full version of pythagors' theorem......that second part of the formula is always left out because in a right angled triangle , the cosine is zero hope someone finds this helpful :D
@teemo8247
@teemo8247 2 жыл бұрын
ahhh that makes snese
@KUDANTOURAGE
@KUDANTOURAGE 2 жыл бұрын
@@teemo8247 thanks waited 12 years for someone to acknowledge it too
@rockysmith6105
@rockysmith6105 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment would apply much more to something like the Bretschneider's quadrilateral area formula being the so called complete version of Brahmagumpta's cyclic quadrilateral area formula because of the non-cyclic adaption term. However, in the case of the law of cosines as your last point states sure h^2=a^2+b^2-2ab*cos(pi/2) is in fact just h^2=a^2+b^2, but the important thing to bare in mind is that suppose you choose an angle t where the hypotenuse is adjacent annnnnd... side a arbitrarily, then b^2=a^2+h^2-2ah*cos(t) which isn't so arbitrary, and yet still applies to a right triangle. Yes, this isn't as simple as just saying b^2=h^2-a^2, and technically h*cos(t) is just a in trigonometric disguise so they are infact easy to show as equivalent, but that's not my point. My point really is that the pythagorean theorem isn't just some formula, nor is the law of cosines it's complete form or anything of that sort- I just find that logic completely disregards the pythagorean theorem as it's own entity and identity which is in my mind not alright. Now... if you re-phrase and say that the pythagorean theorem is a special case, even an identity, of the law of cosines for when you are finding the hypotenuse of a right triangle I'd say sure. The pythagorean theorem is in no way incomplete, as it never was intended to apply to any triangle except the very, VERY special family of right triangles. If this wasn't too tedious, I hope you found this helpful. I... don't mean to be harsh I just don't like it when things as fantastic as the pythagorean theorem get thrown out with the rest of the whole world of formulae... and the LAW of cosines for that matter. If you can't tell, I'm also one of the sticklers that says NEVER forget +c when you are doing an anti-derivative, and NO, an integral sign without bounds is NOT a sign saying "integrate the expression" it says to anti-differentiate the expression... and now I'm rambling, ranting, and raving. I hope there was something in here you found useful... if it wasn't too tedious or offensive. I mention Brahmagumpta and Bretschneider's area formulae because they are shown in Mathologer's most recent video on 1+2+3=1*2*3, the 3,4,5 triangle, and Heron's formula which is some awesome stuff I recommend you take a gander of. Good day!
@teemo8247
@teemo8247 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockysmith6105 why did you write so much to a youtub comment
@YannickHollanda
@YannickHollanda Жыл бұрын
That's so cool, I never realised. Thanks to you my Trig knowledge has broadened. You're 13 yr old comment helped me prepare for my upcoming Entrance exam, I hope you know that 🙏
@zeekfromthecreek
@zeekfromthecreek 5 жыл бұрын
"I'll be impressed if you're still doing trig when you're 40." I'm 59. Catching up on missed math.
@crow2533
@crow2533 4 жыл бұрын
Andre Duval you are an absolute maldad my friend.
@PranabMallick.
@PranabMallick. 3 жыл бұрын
Wow And I am just 14
@hanniballecter3727
@hanniballecter3727 3 жыл бұрын
@@PranabMallick. same homie (I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death)
@cxllmegeo3557
@cxllmegeo3557 3 жыл бұрын
@@hanniballecter3727 ;-;
@purpose2591
@purpose2591 2 жыл бұрын
bro what
@MrJdcirbo
@MrJdcirbo 5 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. The law of cosines is the Pythagorean Theorem minus a correctional factor of 2cbcos(angle). In the special case of a right triangle where side 'a' is the hypotenuse and the angle is 90°, you get a correctional factor of 2cbcos(90°) which is zero. That's pretty useful
@nanosanchezlopez575
@nanosanchezlopez575 11 жыл бұрын
I love how shocked you were in the begining of the video when you realized the red line you were making wasn't straight lol
@SoulofAnotherDeity
@SoulofAnotherDeity 5 жыл бұрын
@8:50 - "I'm not a big fan of just memorizing it without knowing where it came from" I'm the same when it comes to learning pretty much _anything_. :)
@iliekmathphysics
@iliekmathphysics 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I get so ma like OMG WHY DO I FO THAT STOP JT
@hunterepicness4303
@hunterepicness4303 4 жыл бұрын
@@iliekmathphysics what?
@demonetizedhistory5806
@demonetizedhistory5806 3 жыл бұрын
It's so crazy that this dude can do trigonometry with only variables and fully explain a situation with no numbers and that's completely unknown. I'm really astonished.
@eduardoandrescontrerasrome6703
@eduardoandrescontrerasrome6703 2 жыл бұрын
That's the power AND beauty of math IMO.
@rockysmith6105
@rockysmith6105 2 жыл бұрын
@@eduardoandrescontrerasrome6703 Yes, yes it sure is👍
@khanacademy
@khanacademy 16 жыл бұрын
Solve for angle B (either with law of sines or law of cosines), then you will know angle A since A+B+C=180, then you could solve for a.
@tiggerbear3
@tiggerbear3 10 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm 40 and working on the laws of sine and cosine...should I be insulted here?? lol j/k :)
@hunterepicness4303
@hunterepicness4303 4 жыл бұрын
*Tangents have left the chat*
@mishaoberoie159
@mishaoberoie159 4 жыл бұрын
no...you are welcome here
@smackdashitoutchu7755
@smackdashitoutchu7755 2 жыл бұрын
POV: The commentator was 40 when he wrote this comment. As of today in 2021, he is 47.
@tiggerbear3
@tiggerbear3 2 жыл бұрын
@@smackdashitoutchu7755 😂 yeah, but totally remember this vid...😎😉
@Fictionarious
@Fictionarious 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sal, I was embarking into tall calculus 3 grass when a wild geometrical statement appeared! I couldn't catch it until after watching this.
@chuckjls
@chuckjls 12 жыл бұрын
I am sixty and I am still doing trigonometry. This stuff is for life. Ok, the law of cosines is the basis for vector analysis, specifically the dot product of two vectors, which you learn about in Calculus III. Thanks Khan for the quick refresher.
@MoonLight11023
@MoonLight11023 11 жыл бұрын
Law of cosines can be proven by drawing a triangle abc in Cartesian coordinates in which ab side = A, bc side = B, and ca side = C. The triangle points are as follows: a(0,0), b(A,0) and c(Ccos(x),Csin(x)) where x is the angle between A and C sides. Using distance formula: B^2 = (A-Ccos(x))^2 + (0-Csin(x))^2. B^2 = A^2-2ACcos(x)+C^2.[cos(x)]^2+C^2.[sin(x)]^2. B^2 = A^2+C^2-2ACcos(x).
@shellyeditsalot
@shellyeditsalot 9 жыл бұрын
You really helped! I don't need to study from my textbook now =D!
@adityabhandari271
@adityabhandari271 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much sal, i know im writing this 15 years after this video was released but these videos have helped me so much i really appreciate you doing this so tysm!
@vister6757
@vister6757 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Your explanation is perfectly clear to me, and that helps me to remember it.
@committedcoder3352
@committedcoder3352 7 жыл бұрын
can you redo this with your now-neat-hand writing?
@MENNENGER
@MENNENGER 12 жыл бұрын
Learning in my point of view should be fun too. This guy is so much fun. I love it. Thanks KHAN.
@gdogvibes1
@gdogvibes1 9 жыл бұрын
very neat!
@user-df3cd1wo2b
@user-df3cd1wo2b 7 жыл бұрын
So good and its simple than l thought
@hunterepicness4303
@hunterepicness4303 4 жыл бұрын
I understand *Perfectly* . Thank You.
@mwerensteijn
@mwerensteijn 6 ай бұрын
Very clear explained!
@saraha.k.861
@saraha.k.861 3 жыл бұрын
your amazing! And you actually made this interesting too!
@MuletTheGreat
@MuletTheGreat 9 жыл бұрын
How did I become a programmer? I have trouble with math, yet I make video games for a living. -.-
@saudinho1436
@saudinho1436 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this intersting proof
@ankitaaarya
@ankitaaarya 5 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that physicists and mathematicians solved made and discovered new tools for their convenient now every physicist and mathematician uses each other's tools for their convenience.
@demonking1101
@demonking1101 3 жыл бұрын
your methods of teaching are just beautiful and here i am getting depressed due to my math teacher
@aseelso5794
@aseelso5794 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you perfect 😊
@TWRHRS
@TWRHRS 8 жыл бұрын
You came a long way Sal lmao
@Dr.Nitmolol
@Dr.Nitmolol 11 жыл бұрын
that was really helpful ............ proving it, rather then memorizing it.........sal
@horatiohornblowerer
@horatiohornblowerer 16 жыл бұрын
That might what be his concise and helpful explanations of elegant properties.
@fahmidaafreen9855
@fahmidaafreen9855 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, really.
@Mr707derby
@Mr707derby 11 жыл бұрын
I'm forty and doing trigonometry...Ty
@PreCalculusRocks
@PreCalculusRocks 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! I love trig :)
@zeetee6
@zeetee6 15 жыл бұрын
this is hard but he makes it look easy !!!
@fredflintstone8048
@fredflintstone8048 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 65 and I'm still using trig. I use it in computer software that I write for control system, and I use it even more in my machine shop.
@prakh1250
@prakh1250 3 жыл бұрын
2:01 *Top 5 Moments You Won't Believe*
@khushikanodia1899
@khushikanodia1899 10 жыл бұрын
thanks mate that helped
@leonvdd
@leonvdd 9 жыл бұрын
Yes wow thx this is so great now I finally know how to do this :-)
@marleyluber
@marleyluber 14 жыл бұрын
thanks so much!!! my teacher is allowing us 3 pts. of extra credit to memorize this proof! thanks!!!!!
@seriousmax
@seriousmax 10 жыл бұрын
A mess of pixels.
@DogeFrom2014
@DogeFrom2014 9 жыл бұрын
Max Webster Uploaded on 2007, what did you expect?
@badymojoy
@badymojoy 8 жыл бұрын
+DOGE™ I expect an update.
@DogeFrom2014
@DogeFrom2014 8 жыл бұрын
badymojoy Valid point, but Khan has many other new topics to teach than reteaching trigonometry. Although you could ask him for an updated version, but the fact that no one is complaining means that Khan is okay not reteaching it.
@badymojoy
@badymojoy 8 жыл бұрын
+DOGE™ From what I've noticed, there are a small portion of videos on KA still using this low resolution, where things like equal signs look like c's. However small the minority, I consider myself part of those desiring to see an update of those videos--whenever Khan or someone else at KA's time permits.
@mrbartinio
@mrbartinio 4 жыл бұрын
still waiting
@powerslayer9069
@powerslayer9069 9 жыл бұрын
thanks!!
@jugglingtheapples
@jugglingtheapples 11 жыл бұрын
OH my god that was messy. I thought I was using the line tool
@MrMarkgyuro
@MrMarkgyuro 4 жыл бұрын
thank you! I appreciate your videos! :)
@duplitoaejr
@duplitoaejr 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would be impressed too if someone (who is not a math teacher) knows trigonometry after turning 40. Most of the math terms and equations I learned in high school are pretty much forgotten.
@vivialord5260
@vivialord5260 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Paraselene_Tao
@Paraselene_Tao 7 жыл бұрын
We need this video remade; it's aged quite a bit-in it's time it was difficult to follow too.
@newtonsharma
@newtonsharma 15 жыл бұрын
thank you very much.
@gurumoorthy8247
@gurumoorthy8247 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@over-rakum
@over-rakum 7 ай бұрын
I'm so thank you
@kevindave5850
@kevindave5850 2 жыл бұрын
The older I grow the more sensible mathematics becomes for me to understand.
@m22d52
@m22d52 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@peachboy595
@peachboy595 11 жыл бұрын
8:43 LOL I have a test tomorrow and I haven't learnt this..
@youcanteachthem
@youcanteachthem 11 ай бұрын
I am in my late 40's and I am doing trigs :) I can't memorize, though!
@moh3921
@moh3921 11 жыл бұрын
for the Obtuse Angle in Non-right angle triangle. shall we take the cosine of that angle when we want to calculate the length of the line opposite to that angle, or we take the cosine for the supplementary angle?
@QuranWithUrduTranslation
@QuranWithUrduTranslation 14 жыл бұрын
Some People Have = Sin P / H Curly brown hairs = Cos B \ H They use proper Brush = Tan P \ B
@randomazed
@randomazed 5 ай бұрын
I'm doing trig at 40. Gonna take that one as a compliment. :)
@Yu2Kal
@Yu2Kal 15 жыл бұрын
Yea this guy is correct, I got the same answers as him, also that isn't a cosine rule question, you just need to use the sine rule twice and use sum basic geometry facts.
@JeniferSheppard
@JeniferSheppard 14 жыл бұрын
I wish you were teaching my math classes at Uni..
@janenikiita7919
@janenikiita7919 6 жыл бұрын
u helped my lord of Cosine
@EXPComics
@EXPComics 11 жыл бұрын
xD now I feel perpared for this Quiz LOL
@MyCarlover
@MyCarlover 15 жыл бұрын
can you make a video where you derive sine and cosine law in obtuse triangles?... plzzzzz
@juliaflores6935
@juliaflores6935 10 жыл бұрын
superb
@debashishpradhan2325
@debashishpradhan2325 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why khanacademy app is free.. Perhaps Its the cause why its not popular
@markgreen6229
@markgreen6229 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so great but this one sounds like you woke up with a hangover and was asked to prove something.
@nicholasmartin6353
@nicholasmartin6353 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@cbsegm
@cbsegm 8 жыл бұрын
I'm 57 and still doing Trig. Calc next year.
@TheWeeHenry
@TheWeeHenry 8 жыл бұрын
+Carl Silverstein I'm 57 too and still using it.
@Dman82499
@Dman82499 8 жыл бұрын
?
@malcolmfrater7029
@malcolmfrater7029 8 жыл бұрын
+Dman82499.....I use it in my job as a pipefitter to calculate angles and lengths of "travel" when they're not the standard 45 degrees.
@chair1694
@chair1694 Жыл бұрын
Man, I love ya
@angiebaby4292
@angiebaby4292 14 жыл бұрын
hi i have a question ok im doin the lows of cosine nd the worksheet is asking me to find AB where they gave me little a nd b which is a-12 nd b- 28 nd angle C= 26 now my question is which one of the formulas should i use to get side c nd also AB?
@caileanjones9713
@caileanjones9713 6 жыл бұрын
Love it
@jiwonkim7536
@jiwonkim7536 8 жыл бұрын
wow that video is so old.
@Francesco_Armillotta
@Francesco_Armillotta 12 жыл бұрын
can I ask what software do you use? and overall it's free?
@guestdeej
@guestdeej 15 жыл бұрын
hello.. im just curios with your question that's why i answered it.. but i dont know if its correct. anyway, here's my answer.. a=12.52 A=74.56(i got it when i subtrct 180 form 38 deg and 67.44 deg.) what do you think?? ;D am i correct??
@xzxz619
@xzxz619 16 жыл бұрын
And such what might that be?
@dackid2831
@dackid2831 5 жыл бұрын
God I love algebra!
@smoothieGurl23
@smoothieGurl23 13 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. I think I need to use this method for my homework except I don't quite understand. If I have a=8 and c=10. I even have two of the interior angles but I'm lost on how to begin. Can you please help!?
@MARSTVCHANNEL
@MARSTVCHANNEL 10 жыл бұрын
Could someone explain the origins of the calculations at 6:02, or where I can find that particular Khan video where it is explained? I'm 40 and can't remember!
@Zedriodor
@Zedriodor 9 жыл бұрын
***** Quadratics.
@MARSTVCHANNEL
@MARSTVCHANNEL 9 жыл бұрын
Where does the 2cbcosØ come from?
@Zedriodor
@Zedriodor 9 жыл бұрын
When you expand any square like this (a-b)^2 it becomes (a-b)x(a-b) which you then use FOIL or any other method to multiply it out such that it gives you this: a*a - a*b + b*b - b*a. Which simplifies to: a^2 +b^2 -2ab.
@MARSTVCHANNEL
@MARSTVCHANNEL 9 жыл бұрын
I understand that, but how does this relate to my question? This occurs at 6:17 btw.
@MARSTVCHANNEL
@MARSTVCHANNEL 9 жыл бұрын
a^2 =
@horatiohornblowerer
@horatiohornblowerer 16 жыл бұрын
There is something beautiful here.
@vmiget01
@vmiget01 13 жыл бұрын
so colorful! xD
@aarongould3538
@aarongould3538 6 жыл бұрын
i love you sal khan
@soccerbabez45
@soccerbabez45 12 жыл бұрын
I need to know how to solve and draw out diagrams using te formula for law of cosine :(
@peacedudepeace
@peacedudepeace 15 жыл бұрын
the first one or the two after?
@sdH2Opolo
@sdH2Opolo 12 жыл бұрын
i think it would have been easier to understand if you would have just started with a right triangle
@Djcrzy
@Djcrzy 14 жыл бұрын
im not sure but i think cos law is only for SAS and SSS (side angle side and side side side)
@abichan210
@abichan210 9 жыл бұрын
i love watching derivations asdfghjkl
@strike-pw571
@strike-pw571 11 жыл бұрын
SLACKER!!!!111!!1one!
@MartianSpore
@MartianSpore 14 жыл бұрын
@Awlaad1 If you only know three angles of a triangle you do not have enough information to solve for the triangle.
@eipimath
@eipimath Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I posted a short video on deriving the law of cosines, It should apply for all angles (acute, obtuse, reflex, negative). Hope to get your thoughts.
@scriptblaster4237
@scriptblaster4237 10 жыл бұрын
*analyzing* 86% complete.
@ankitaaarya
@ankitaaarya 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jonf6509
@jonf6509 2 жыл бұрын
Im 36 and i had to come back to this crap now haha Why wouldnt one be doing trig when their 40?
@ARN48411
@ARN48411 Жыл бұрын
OMG, This 14 years ago video.. It's 2022
@BigPokemonFan987
@BigPokemonFan987 9 жыл бұрын
If ur in trigonometry lol i have to do this in geometry.
@footballherocjp
@footballherocjp 9 жыл бұрын
LOL ur gunna be using this for the next couple of years bud, guarantee you see it again. You still have ways to go.
@BigPokemonFan987
@BigPokemonFan987 9 жыл бұрын
Lord Jean-Pierre haha its hard stuff
@loganbmoy
@loganbmoy 7 жыл бұрын
HarmlessGirlscout Lol I a m doing this in 7 grade
@MrMistery101
@MrMistery101 13 жыл бұрын
How many of us are watching this on the day before the test/quiz?
@charlesrambo7845
@charlesrambo7845 7 жыл бұрын
What about when theta is an obtuse angle?
@PancakeDoesGaming
@PancakeDoesGaming 7 жыл бұрын
+Charles Rambo Then cos theta would be negative, but there won't be problems.
@jiyaali3840
@jiyaali3840 3 жыл бұрын
Sal khan be like lemme change the color of the pen!!!
@drudru5992
@drudru5992 8 жыл бұрын
Need a better black board. Lost me at the very end where the writing became difficult to make out.
@semoge3249
@semoge3249 7 жыл бұрын
Dru Dru if you could not follow what he was saying, you clearly are not use to trig and (a+b)^2
@Nobiashi
@Nobiashi 10 жыл бұрын
That only works for right triangles
@taichingkan79
@taichingkan79 12 жыл бұрын
The law of sines only works when you have an angle and the side opposite it given to you.
@JellyIsPeng
@JellyIsPeng 10 жыл бұрын
how many colours does he have?!?! hahaha
@jackyoung8354
@jackyoung8354 6 жыл бұрын
why is everybody 40 years old?
@peacedudepeace
@peacedudepeace 15 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@celenamorris
@celenamorris 9 жыл бұрын
I got lost fml
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