Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake: A Simple Guide

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5 жыл бұрын

Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake
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If you've researched blockchain, you've probably heard of Proof of Work. It's a popular way for blockchains to keep consensus among their members. But there are a lot of drawbacks to Proof of Work, so many developers are working on an alternative!
In this video, we go over what Proof of Work is, and what some of it's problems are. We'll then go over Ethereum's future solution called Proof of Stake, and what it does differently.
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Proof of Work vs Proof of Stake: Conclusion
Thanks to a PoS system validators do not have to use their computing power because the only factors that influence their chances are the total number of their own coins and current complexity of the network.
So this possible future switch from PoW to PoS may provide the following benefits:
Energy savings;
A safer network as attacks become more expensive: if a hacker would like to buy 51% of the total number of coins, the market reacts by fast price appreciation.
This way, CASPER will be a security deposit protocol that relies on an economic consensus system. Nodes (or the validators) must pay a security deposit in order to be part of the consensus thanks to the new blocks creation. Casper protocol will determine the specific amount of rewards received by the validators thanks to its control over security deposits.
If one validator creates an “invalid” block, his security deposit will be deleted, as well as his privilege to be part of the network consensus.
In other words, the Casper security system is based on something like bets. In a PoS-based system, bets are the transactions that, according to the consensus rules, will reward their validator with a money prize together with each chain that the validator has bet on.
So, Casper is based on the idea that validators will bet according to the others’ bets and leave positive feedbacks that are able accelerates consensus.

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@brusschain5769
@brusschain5769 3 жыл бұрын
Simple and straight to the point. Your speed was fine. Thanks
@nGUNNARp
@nGUNNARp 2 жыл бұрын
the idea that bad actors forming a mining pool could form a 51% attack is the exact same as saying bad actors can pool their stakes to have consensus...the difference is that with PoW, that attack is costly to maintain as you'd have to have the energy for 51% of the work and maintain it, while others can join the network and compete against you, while with PoS if you have the majority of the stake, there's absolutely no cost to you and nobody has the ability to out compete you. ignore the noise, buy bitcoin, nothing else is in your best interest.
@knowgood5903
@knowgood5903 2 жыл бұрын
Plus eth is partly centralized and transactions can be reversed.
@road-x
@road-x Жыл бұрын
exactly. only bitcoin, only on your own non custodian wallet.
@AndyU96
@AndyU96 2 жыл бұрын
There is never such a thing as "Developers wanting to switch to green". The only green that people with money care about is the USD.
@jaredlising-simplybrewedph
@jaredlising-simplybrewedph 3 жыл бұрын
one thing, who processes or what processes the validation process in the POS? it will also need computation power i believe? or does that mean only the current pools or nodes are valid to be a validator? is the POS like on binance where staking is available? if so meaning the still miners in the current pool or node? is the one validsting the POS transsctions? i didnt get how POS validstion works
@Joso997
@Joso997 4 жыл бұрын
So proof of stake is basically open ended casino.
@MarkusGhambari
@MarkusGhambari 4 жыл бұрын
Proof-of-Work is a misnomer. You don't work. Super computers do. And you need money to buy super computers and pay the power bills so it's basically Proof-of-Stake. It's just a waste of computing power and electricity and poor investors end up copping all the bills at the end of the day while hardware and power companies cash in the profits. So if you think Proof-of-Stake is bad, Proof-of-Work is 1000000000x worse.
@tdreamgmail
@tdreamgmail 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkusGhambari Bad? In terms of ability to hack it's bad, but good for users. The only way to hack PoW is spending a shit ton of energy and money. PoW can be hacked by collusion, which happens everyday in politics and business.
@MarkusGhambari
@MarkusGhambari 3 жыл бұрын
@@tdreamgmail You think you can hack Proof of Stake? Good luck. Start with SwiftCash with a market cap of only 200,000 dollars. Let's see how much you have to pump it in order to acquire enough stake to be able to "hack" it :))
@klemenkovacic9109
@klemenkovacic9109 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkusGhambari It is not if you know what and where you are doing it. In fact under these terms you benefit the most. People with high bills do not make any deep research before hand and so they drown in electricity bills for good... If you are unable to calucalte that before you even invest then you are bound to lose. And with PoS you are basically paying someone else for something you could have done yourself and you actually could get rewarded for (PoW). While with PoS is just a scam. You have to to be QUOTE --> " CHOSEN " by the system and by that you need to have tons of coins invested in at this point you could also lose at any time. Everything.
@MarkusGhambari
@MarkusGhambari 3 жыл бұрын
@@klemenkovacic9109 You don't make any sense. You didn't refute anything I said. You just made a fool of yourself. Bye.
@r3dp1ll
@r3dp1ll 2 жыл бұрын
Clear explanation. One thing, I saw somewhere else that for POS the verification process is called forging and not mining.
@kousikmech
@kousikmech 2 жыл бұрын
correct They are called forgers.
@alaskacryptofinancial4570
@alaskacryptofinancial4570 2 жыл бұрын
outstanding explanation. Thank You.
@PSAGrader
@PSAGrader 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video. It goes fast, but that's exactly what I wanted. Thank you!
@SickPrid3
@SickPrid3 3 жыл бұрын
It's a switch from rewarding people who mine to rewarding people who own small fish won't make anything while the big players will cash in fuck that
@valeenoi2284
@valeenoi2284 2 жыл бұрын
How do others validate the one that validates that one block?
@tubzvermeulen
@tubzvermeulen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@OnlinePeriod
@OnlinePeriod 2 жыл бұрын
I understand it now! Thanks
@Raz_mik
@Raz_mik 3 жыл бұрын
In PoW once the puzzle is solved the rest of the network need to check that it’s correct before a new block is mined. Does this principle apply to PoS as well? After the validator validates the transaction, does the rest of the network need to verify that it’s validated properly?
@moises32123
@moises32123 2 жыл бұрын
Same question with PoS bro, I still don't get how the PoS pool validates the transaction, or what principle uses
@nsukkaman6847
@nsukkaman6847 4 ай бұрын
Thank you😊
@ravi1041
@ravi1041 2 жыл бұрын
The only video i found very helpful. Subscribed 🇮🇳✌
@shahzaintariq8704
@shahzaintariq8704 5 жыл бұрын
great channel in the world
@bambamgolf
@bambamgolf 4 жыл бұрын
I get it thanks
@nikyabodigital
@nikyabodigital 3 жыл бұрын
I still do not understand how proof of stake will work on the validator's stand point.. We all know that mining in the miner's standpoint is just to keep running his unit to mine ... He could just sleep.. But for the POS in validator, will it be manual?
@fakename3608
@fakename3608 2 жыл бұрын
1 (just 1!!) transaction (PoW) requires same energy as a 1.5 houses for a day?? fuck! that's madness!
@rogerchuakt
@rogerchuakt 5 жыл бұрын
For POS, what do we mean by 'bad actor'? What kind of actions are considered a bad actor? It sounds like POS would shape the actor/stake to be in 'gambling' mentality? The outcome seems very uncertain. If that's the case, what's the motivation for actor/stake to act/contribute the effort to the pool?
@BlockGeeks
@BlockGeeks 5 жыл бұрын
A bad actor is essentially someone trying to submit invalid or malicious blocks when they're called on to validate. This requires you to go out of your way to alter the code that you're running when you join the staking pool. If someone joins the staking pool and just lets their stake operate on its own / as intended, there shouldn't be any problems! There should be fairly consistent and reliable rewards.
@LordHeigler
@LordHeigler 3 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Cage, Ben Affleck, etc
@lukebohemian
@lukebohemian 3 жыл бұрын
very helpful. thank you so much!
@wuzhai2009
@wuzhai2009 3 жыл бұрын
No information on PoS
@uekikosuke3601
@uekikosuke3601 3 жыл бұрын
I understood proof of work but proof of stake? I don't
@MegaPeterlustig123
@MegaPeterlustig123 2 жыл бұрын
PoS is is not as secure as PoW.
@optimisticblackorange
@optimisticblackorange 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very good and simple explanation
@redred2
@redred2 4 жыл бұрын
Beginner here so here's a stupid question: Where do these people solve these puzzles in Proof of Work, where does it take place? How do I get involved with solving these mathematical puzzles?
@jeremystyers
@jeremystyers 4 жыл бұрын
You don't. It's not possible anymore. But the process is simple. You download a program and run it. That's it. The program cracks the code needed to solve the block and you get free crypto currency. The problem is that the difficulty of solving the code is sooooo high that it's impossible to ever solve it in time. You'd need a super computer or a "farm"(big room full of computers, running that program). The cost to create a farm is Soo high only the rich can afford it. Oh and you have to solve the code first. If anyone else finds the answer before your computer does then the next block is released and you have to start all over and try to solve the new code. That means you get nothing and waste all your money on equipment and electric bills. If you had the money to create a big farm then you could do it and solve the answer first. You'd then get free crypto. But good luck getting the funds to do that.
@redred2
@redred2 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremystyers thank you for the detailed reply! You learn something new everyday
@aoe9857
@aoe9857 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "take over the network"?
@BlockGeeks
@BlockGeeks 5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean in regards to a 51% attack? If you have 51% of the mining power on a Proof of Work blockchain, you can theoretically reverse or change transactions after you've made them. It essentially delegitimizes the chain unless something is done to fix it!
@VileStail
@VileStail 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbya8628 The 51% is the majority share (out of 100%), or simply just more than half. If 51% or more is controlled by a single entity, they can (theoretically) start messing with the blocks. It's easier to achieve that via mining pools rather than someone owning 51% or more of the entire market cap.
@ayushimishra3256
@ayushimishra3256 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we are watching it in fast forward mode. To fast to understand
@klemenkovacic9109
@klemenkovacic9109 3 жыл бұрын
1:53 and where would that money go? this PoS seems like a money grab for someone else imo
@universenerdd
@universenerdd 2 жыл бұрын
The validator. Or it’s deleted
@DanDascalescu-dandv
@DanDascalescu-dandv 2 жыл бұрын
Very thin explanation. How is the validator chosen? How is it determined when they should lose their stake?
@demirkafasutlac2343
@demirkafasutlac2343 3 жыл бұрын
I still have no clue what this means. Can I still buy the coins and make money as it goes up in value?
@teal4675
@teal4675 3 жыл бұрын
it means that miners will no longer exist leading to less electricity consumed
@bennyduran6960
@bennyduran6960 3 жыл бұрын
@@teal4675 cant they get stolen it said tho by proof of stake?
@jorgeneo560
@jorgeneo560 3 жыл бұрын
you are wrong in thinking that buying the 51% of staking pools is hard than beat the 51% computer power in pow, you had supply, deliver, power limitation, and in pos is just money, hedge founds and retail investor can group them selves and split the capital in many accounts to achive the 51%, becouse in the process you use the profit to create new accounts, and that way bend the random probability to your self, and even you solve that problem, let say you create some how the perfect pos, the reward block had to be adjusted to beat the depreciation of the coin, becouse if i am earning only 5% but the coin is volatile or it has problem to keep their value theres no real incentive to stake, so more people would quit the network and the large found would take over even more fast, and if you rise the reward too much you will enter in a inflation spiral that you would never be able to exit unless massive investors and users purchase the coin, or do you think eth 2.0 has only "techinal problems" to lunch the pos?, no they didnt figure out yet how to solve the problem
@Ones_Complement
@Ones_Complement 3 жыл бұрын
Throw in a period man, jesus fucking christ.
@MiguelAngelTaipe
@MiguelAngelTaipe 2 жыл бұрын
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@user12122
@user12122 2 жыл бұрын
so its lottery basicly
@JCR4990
@JCR4990 3 жыл бұрын
So basically proof of stake means the rich get richer and you can't make profit mining as a small guy anymore? Am I understanding correctly? Should I give up my attempts to acquire a 3090 for small scale at home ETH mining? I have free electricity and was hoping to make a few bucks mining ETH but this new system seems like it will kill any hopes of making a profit unless you hold a large amount of ETH already?
@terrancebrooke9431
@terrancebrooke9431 3 жыл бұрын
The mainstream bitcoin and eth is POW
@danielionanov5620
@danielionanov5620 2 жыл бұрын
Don't mine eth, mine other coins
@Signal_in_the_noise
@Signal_in_the_noise 3 жыл бұрын
Cardano
@trca101
@trca101 4 жыл бұрын
exit scam
@MrZZooh
@MrZZooh 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds better than the current bullshit mining system but you still brought up "miners" when talking about this algorithm. You said you're chosen based off of how much they deposited.
@saikrishnareddy3485
@saikrishnareddy3485 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent but too speed...if I shrink the speed ,missing flavor...
@davestafford4905
@davestafford4905 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the same problem with my vibrator hoss 😔
@polcore443
@polcore443 4 жыл бұрын
Cardano is the best.
@VileStail
@VileStail 3 жыл бұрын
This aged well
@squidmix2857
@squidmix2857 2 жыл бұрын
Lol cardano lile eth is trash
@accumanddistrading3963
@accumanddistrading3963 Жыл бұрын
Really difficult video to watch
@sukeerthreddy9169
@sukeerthreddy9169 2 жыл бұрын
You speak too fast
@rishab9761
@rishab9761 4 жыл бұрын
Why tf are you talking so fast? Calm down. I cant follow half of what you say.
@davestafford4905
@davestafford4905 3 жыл бұрын
It helps when you're on meth bro
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