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[@___flower.]

ive noticed a consistency in gold over the recent seasons. im a gold tank and support player and in my games i either get dent heads or insane players, no in between. ive been in so many games where i wonder how my dps or tank is in gold because they have 3x more elims and dmg than the entire lobby and just rolls the game for their team. but then i also get tanks going 5 and 5 after 5 minutes compared to the dps who are at least 15+ there have been times where friends i find on this game are like masters-gm on support or something yet are still hardstuck gold on dps, which actually baffles me because most of these people would have the game sense and experience to at least get out of gold. its not like i can talk though, ive barely reached plat before, i just find it a little odd.

[@n30n__ra1n]

I’m in diamond and it’s the same, really frustrating because in diamond it matters even more. Instead of staying in the same rank or division it tries to throw me down 3 ranks

[@noonecares4440]

Nah that ana clip has to be cap. The rein is standing in open swinging his hammer at the voices in his head and not taking damage? They defo lied.

[@MrSonictheOtter]

Ana focusing on dealing damage was the big hint. Usually in Gold players start thinking of that

[@deadlydwarf9312]

Or the rein is letting ana get ult charge

[@deus2243]

All ranks are verified by using multiple tracking sites. If the rank they provided is fake it will be changed to their real rank

[@emkay1705]

Maybe he's lagging. People that lag tend to have weird movement like that.

[@Eblim]

​@@deadlydwarf9312Good call. But wouldn't the other team be feeding?

[@realcanadian4981]

As a plat console player, there is no way that Cassidy was plat

[@deadlydwarf9312]

Easily could be plat that moria was there after fade in their view for like half a sec.

[@williamlevy6964]

Lucio+Moira=Plat

[@mvgikk1969]

lucio is barely ever played in my plat games@@williamlevy6964

[@andreamicheli2575]

Yeah in what solar system the Sombra was gold and the Cass was plat.

[@TheRealHypervizor]

Gold 2 to Diamond 3 are made up of roughly the same skill levels. The differences seem to be in how consistent people are in their gameplay. A Gold player might only be playing well 4/10 games, Plat 5/10, and Diamond 6/10 for example. It's more complicated than that obviously but for simplicity sake that's the best way to view it.

[@SrirachaPapa]

This is pretty true. diamond players just have more knowledge of the game thats what really separates them and makes them seem more consistent. They know more about the metas, the combo ults, the counters, the maps, health pack locations understand their roles and don’t have a problem playing it to the scope of enabling their teammates and typically cooldown and ult tracking is fairly good. Its one of those the more you play type things. Anything after diamond 3 you’re probably really good mechanically.

[@bad.D]

bro if you think a diamond isnt going to shit all over a gold lobby ur nuts, if they dont they are boosted

[@arigatou7483]

@@bad.D I watch diamond players play in gold lobbies (when I coach my players I force them to make a smurf to try and carry) they actually don't shit over the lobby as expected because diamond is not good. At best they do well. Honestly everything below diamond looks like bronze and noone knows how to carry unless they're GM.

[@kaicho_san]

​@arigatou7483 that's.....interesting. don't really get why you would want someone to smurf. They're playing with much worse teammates and I don't get the point that would helpful to roll lower elo players. Just seems scummy to do.

[@arigatou7483]

@@kaicho_san Smurfing not with the intent of stomping lower ranked players, but to learn a carry playstyle. Too many players just autopilot and rely on their team to play well to win. Once they learn to carry and push their limits they will get better and smurf at their real rank too.

[@Tacothecow]

This ranking system is so dumb. They should make it thst your rank changes based on how you play rather than if your team wins or losses

[@frozello14]

Pretty much. Not very rewarding feeling, when getting rolled 3-0 is worth as much as losing 6-7. It should feel rewarding if your team plays well, but still losses

[@TheRealHypervizor]

Haha I wish. 8/10 games regardless of what role I’m on my output is higher than the other people on that role in the lobby. Especially when I’m on support. But I’ll admit I’m not hardstuck. I personally just don’t play a lot of comp. I climbed from silver to diamond in 2 seasons on my main, and almost masters on an alt after a 70% win rate in quick play into a 5-1 placements.

[@AaronWOfficial]

overwatch 1 was the same though. Rank based on wins not skill. But I agree, while I understand people saying to focus on yourself and not your team and eventually you will climb because other players get the same type of players when they climb but they manage to climb out. The problem is, it takes too long to climb out when you go on a 8 game win streak and then suddenly manage to get a 15 loss streak because of leavers, throwers, or people who are just useless at the game. It should be based on what you did in the game i.e on support how many players saved, healing, damage, elim per life and ult usage should determine how well you played. Regardless of what anyone thinks, if I as a zenyatta saved our whole team from an ult with transcendence and then our mei forgets they have ult and then we just all die in overtime when we could have won if they just used ult. I + 3 other players get punished for their mistake, which is bs. Rank based on wins being dumb, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

[@wusaint]

Not for nothing but just from my experience, the skill level in the metal ranks seems to have increased since the launch of OW2. You'll always have glue eaters but still

[@grimfors9671]

metal ranks

[@wusaint]

@@grimfors9671 autocorrect fail

[@ragenav8380]

Rank has been so weird. This rank reset will be good

[@AaronWOfficial]

I had a hanzo do 200 damage 0 elims and 18 deaths in 1 game. And no, he never left the game he was there the whole time. And he was with us in the team fights firing arrows, just not hitting anything lol. And this was in a plat lobby.... Boosted bronze account probably, I have never seen a dps get flamed so hard even the enemy team is flaming him. I don't think I will ever forget that hanzo player, it was shocking.

[@wondering_hand0985]

Have y’all noticed that every pc player always overrates aim assist yet will not switch to controller bc the amount of disadvantages

[@Ali-gf2qs]

15:08 it wasn't aim asisst , it was xim apex aim asisst in OW is bad if u compare it to any other game like cod or apex , but when u have this slightly aim asisst with a mouse ofc ur tracking will be like that if not , bring any console "controller" player and let him show us his aim

[@berrybicboi9378]

Im sayin these people act like the aim assist is a literal lock on or sum. Ill get my screen randomly dragged a little time to time when i used played with aim assist but it would just end up makin me miss slightly where id think i hit

[@andreamicheli2575]

I mean it didn't seem that crazy honestly, like the guy has really good tracking but at the same time if you notice his turning speed is really slow. Probably this guy is just playing on low sensitivity.

[@gavin_jimenez12345]

That’s what I was thinking. The dude was flicking away to reload which from what I heard (I play pc) is not a console thing.

[@SrirachaPapa]

These clips prove elo hell is real

[@Ryan-cn4em]

Literally I don’t understand how anyone can say it’s not a thing

[@sh1rom1su]

elo hell is not real, you are just delusional and not good at the game.

[@zacharywoodford8530]

The acting surprised as if there is much of a difference between from bronze to plat lol

[@lulzywizard7576]

jay3 looking almost swole

[@Duolin313]

Jay always forgets that if they say that it is gold: it could be gold 5 - the same silver 1 =)

[@MortalReaver]

6:10 I am doing same things with Ball, and I just got to gold. It works there too so far.

[@Alex_Aramayo]

I always said if Elo hell exists its Gold & Plat

[@RealEllenDeGeneres]

I'm fairly certain Blizzard did something weird with competitive in OW2. My tank went down from diamond to gold at launch, then my support went from silver to diamond. My gold tank lobbies are harder than my diamond support lobbies. Made a new account and did placements for tank and I was already diamond again within 12 matches.

[@burkhardt7694]

Lol I know my rank well. You could tell the first clip was a low rank because the entire enemy team walked into the arrows

[@clashwithhannah5434]

The ana clip looks like console, this is what every ana looked like in gold when i first started playing this game.

[@nuclearsimian3281]

I loved seeing the comment about "making Brig meta again" at 1:17 disappear from the chat. Rubbish.

[@Kat-xp8zn]

Yeah that ball wasnt impressive or anything..but bro isnt bronze lol..bronze players dont even know how to do the swings or the slam lol

[@johnbulman8228]

any hanzo below T500 looks the same cuz he is easy and no skill, just spam at head height and win games

[@101joebro]

I use to be a diamond player. Then i tried helping my gold buddy climb. He brought me down to plat. Ever since 2700 in the old rank i have a thrower or leaver 6 outta 10 matches. As support i can have double the healing and kills the entire team has and we still lose. My dps will go like 30 and 3 with 18k sometimes low 20+k damage and still lose.

[@101joebro]

Me as dps que. My open que is still diamond atleast because I can swap to counter majority of enemy team. But still hard to Carry every match.

[@sh1rom1su]

skill issue, plat is a free rank.

[@l0kpcr397]

Stats don’t matter as much as timing. If your team is rolling the lobby stats wise but isn’t able to capitalize at certain times (this mainly applies to escort/hybrid maps, flashpoint not as much) then you can def still lose the game

[@SlashRaidtv]

Copied your crosshair? That’s a standard feature of Hanzo’s crosshair

[@ShadowLady1]

I was gonna comment this lmao

[@AngrySecs]

No a streamer did it so anyone else who does it is copying. This is basic knowledge

[@ryanpalyo8181]

That roadhog was def bronze lol. Odd aiming, bad kiri ult, enemy junk just tries to run away and gets pushed off my the hog ult, using rammatra as a tank, etc. But I mean godsake brother was using the default hog crosshair. It's huge, obnoxious, and not at all helpful. No one would still not have changed the crosshair unless they were complete brand new to the game. Could have maybe argued silver in case they got some lucky wins, but I woulda said bronze off the crosshair alone lmao

[@MK-mm7ui]

Many of these clips are from Quick Play, which is just stupid. You can see it on the UI

[@williamlevy6964]

To all of you that didn't say bronze for the hammond I took that as a personal insult. lmao

[@blkc744]

Is not that doesn't exist, is just messed up silver can play like plat the master can play like gold. Cuz elo and MMR make no sense at all 😊

[@kaicho_san]

That soldier is probably a xim player. Aim assist on ow is really bad from what i remember.

[@KY.Jelly07]

"2% of chat thought that was masters gameplay" no, atleast 2% of your chat are trolls and you constantly focus on their stupid questions then complain when they say dumb things. Ignore the stupid comments and eventually they give up.

[@ZykoYFF]

Do you seriously think Jay doesnt know they are trolls? 😂

[@arigatou7483]

Console players still insisting aim assist does nothing (willfully blind)

[@RealEllenDeGeneres]

It does, but not nearly as much as you think. It only slightly slows your aim in an area around a target. Which is basically just to compensate for the fact that a joystick is tiny and it's really difficult to have micro movements, so it enables players to have micro adjustments despite having larger/broader movements on the joystick. It also doesn't really trigger past a certain distance unless you're playing Ana/Widow. So if you ever see console players hitting somewhat long shots, then it's done without aim assist. Aim assist also hurts more than it helps with projectile heroes. I have aim assist turned off for Hanzo and I generally have a 30% accuracy on him

[@arigatou7483]

@@RealEllenDeGeneres I'm a T100 hitscan player and the only time I ever get diffed hard in a hitscan 1v1 is in QP lobbies by a console crossplayer. Not even OWL players are able to kill me in the way controller players can. There's a reason crossplay doesn't exist in OW, it changes the way you have to play the game, sort of like how you can win against hackers but you have to avoid taking the close range aim duel.

[@RealEllenDeGeneres]

@@arigatou7483 If you're going against the top console players, chances are they're also using a mouse. Many of the top players on console cheat this way unfortunately. The best controller players with aim assist are comparable to the best mouse players without aim assist though. It's the whole point of having aim assist. To balance the game to work equivalent to using a mouse when using a joystick

[@cytro]

As a silver ana with a plat alt, that ana could not have been gold. Their target priority and the speed at which they switched targets was so slow. Also they scoped in way too much especially when they were healing. Just my 2c

[@nyancat432]

Dont*

[@laika6508]

As a console player aim assist is not that strong also I’m fairly certain it’s disabled completely in ranked

[@caleb_dume]

Nah I think it’s only disabled in quick play when there’s pc players in the match. Stupid rule considering the mouse players already have an advantage, then they handicap the controller users too.

[@Anime.93]

​@@caleb_dumeNo, Aim assist is on even when you play against PC

[@caleb_dume]

@@Anime.93 oh really? That’s good. I know it definitely used to be that way, they must have fixed that.

[@laika6508]

Yeah it’s completely disabled in ranked matches…according to google and my own very scuffed experiments lol

[@caleb_dume]

@@laika6508 hmm. Can’t say I’ve ever noticed it tbh. I was sure it was still enabled. I’ll have to play around with it next time I play comp

[@lazytitan-18]

Elohell

[@sirdecay5879]

And here I was thinking diamond 4 on console wasn’t equivalent to gold / silver on Pc

[@Iznoot]

Idk man i played on console and instantly shot up to diamond 1 when I moved to pc

[@sirdecay5879]

@@Iznoot nah, I played console hit diamond 4 close to Diamond 3, but stopped playing, switched to Pc and wound up in silver as I had no prior pc experience, and jumped straight into comp after getting a little comfortable on m and k I’m Platinum now though, hoping to hit Diamond again as I never got my diamond role challenger title due to a few losses after not being on for a while

[@Iznoot]

well goodluck man@@sirdecay5879

[@DxXNA]

@@Iznoot tbf these days unranked starts in diamond so if you can win the matches you get diamond or higher in your first 5 matches. My friend was 5-10 and got Plat 2 for dps and 5-2 got Diamond 5 on tank then like 5-3 and got Gold 1 on support with a new account and on his main he's about gold everything occasionally dipping into plat.

[@Iznoot]

OOOOOH thank you @@DxXNA

[@rivercollins9002]

first love ur vids jay

[@Thiccatron69]

the cupid skin is to die for! i love that skin!

[@DrunkFist_]

In diamond i saw all of this matches dude

[@goofballnate6267]

what u gotta do to get your clips guessed? yall got favorites or something?

[@fire1727]

He used the rankdle website. You have to upload your clip there and just wait. He doesn’t pick. it’s random and changed daily.

[@goofballnate6267]

@@fire1727 in his discordm

[@AMQWERTY379]

the website is rankdle, you can submit your clip there but whether it will be included someday or not up to them rankdle it's not related to jay3 or anyone else

[@thewildhi1222]

10:31 that echo is like me, I can bet that is a diamond stuck in elo hell as am I. I have been stuck in gold for a year now and I play with players at the echo’s level and higher all the time 🫤

[@sh1rom1su]

skill issue.