Proof that SHOT TIMING is always CHANGING on NBA 2K25

[@TheThinkingMansTemplar]

So basically after 25 years, online latency in an over priced AAA game is still broken.. between 6 and 10 players max on the court its still lag but i can play COD with a 100 players in warzone and NOT lag once with fiber internet..but 2k the game freezes and glitches like crazy just walking down the street..

[@argosbrave6415]

Irrelevant comment lol but not wrong

[@alcynic5631]

This is why this is my last 2K. It's a shame that instead of investing in better servers and improving their net code they instead say here's a mycourt to practice with this lag. I should NOT have to learn to adjust to lag because 2K refuses to do something about it. That plus the amount of time it takes to grind badges, overall, rep etc. if you're not a content creator you shouldn't even be playing this game more than an hour a day and that's being generous.

[@DeProvodo]

For a while I’ve been so confused about how the servers for 2k are so garbage. Every other game completely fine, but 2k seems to have the strangest moments of delay.

[@KimaniAjamu]

@@DeProvodoFrom what I understand they do not have dedicated servers. They run off of some Amazon servers while other major companies run on dedicated servers. I don’t know what it all means but from what I’ve gotten it’s cheaper to use those servers.

[@KimaniAjamu]

@@DeProvodoI could be wrong though cause my source was a “trust me bro.” Regardless the severs are inexcusable.

[@leekjohnson8691]

What I hate about 2k is how THEY'RE not the ones to explain these sorts of these. When ppl are spending money for builds, It sucks for them to leave ppl in the dark like that. Thanks Tutes. You the GOAT bruh.

[@JoaoMXN]

They did on Discord and Twitter, but I agree, it should have a section of it on Learn2K in-game.

[@TafatoluNeemia]

Yea fuck this game bro

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

@@TafatoluNeemiayeah. Ik a lot of ppl talked smack about 24 being there last 2k but this most definitely might be my last one. I don’t wanna have to do this bs.

[@TafatoluNeemia]

@@GlobalgamingCJsame here gang

[@SlattDari]

They do it on purpose so you can regret your build and make another and buy more vc, no badge percentages or anything so we can easily choose the wrong raritys for them on the first month and feel like we gotta make a new build later on, and they got a f2p format on a $70 game they drop every year

[@DontForgetTheBread]

In other 2ks you could shoot off muscle memory now you have to pay attention to the animation depending on which shot you take

[@chosen7934]

@Andre-yi9ushow he a bot for that?

[@Isaw606]

@@chosen7934brotha must be calling himself a bot cuz Mike Wang himself said this a couple days ago 😭

[@francisvelez6576]

took me a week to avoid that habit

[@ogbreeze1081]

Only way to beat zen users. I don’t blame them.

[@NeticOnYT]

​@@ogbreeze1081anti cheat

[@marvmarvel3877]

Most accurate description of shooting this season. Tutes you are literally the goat. Dont change, if 2K offer you money to work for them. Dont take it. Gods work right here.

[@ttt2690]

This comment means everything, he is doing good for lost one’s trapped , I pray to god he doesn’t sell out

[@nba2ktutes]

Thanks for the appreciation! I always want to be independent.

[@jakejackson811]

Community needs u

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

@@nba2ktutesif anything make your own bball game.

[@justpitiful6339]

He already did

[@simba1768]

the problem with watching visual cues is the online latency is so bad that the cues aren’t properly aligned with where they say they are.

[@slowleak0]

💯 especially if you dont have great internet…i play on wired connection and still have lagging smh

[@duanetasha]

Trust it's not just online, even offline they muck it up by adding extra trash animations to slow ornspeed up your release as well stop your drives to the basket and force stepback jumpers to create misses. They have destroyed the whole user timing mechanism of the game they said they were going for with forcing random misses.

[@t004sm0ke]

Facts ....I'm athletic Center and even offline against some bummy ass centers they'll all the sudden be clamp city if i have the ball , and can only get to the rim really by using the cut stick or the in quick in. Turbo out to perimeter then if j get em late closing out i usually can get by them or at at least a slight contest. Not me getting debod by Luka on a switched screen

[@mnngdss.6922]

As mid range shot creator I absolutely hate this 2K25 and can’t find any desire to play it after playing every single 2K since 2K13.

[@day-trishad3937]

@@mnngdss.6922 practice and get better. Honestly instead of creating a jump shot in the creator, try using a regular players jump shot. I’m not winning as much as I’m used to but I really am enjoying this 2k as I grind to starter 3 for my cap breakers

[@UncleGregster]

Its too difficult to create different types of shots with all these timing changes. Takes away from being the shot creator archetype

[@johndoe-fz2ly]

Same. I've gone back to 24 for mycareer. Tye shooting is just too bad this year. The new meter sucks and is way off. The timing is insanely unbalanced and it's total rng.

[@kuruptzZz]

Yeah this is exactly how it works. My pull up shots tend to be slightly early, and my catch and shoots tend to be slightly late. It also explains why I am greening everything shooting around alone, and then in a park game I keep getting lates when someone hits me. So frustrating. Thanks!

[@Wickery.]

Exactly 🤣 people say “learn your shot” when I’m sitting here in my court greening everything but then when I go online it’s a different timing, I feel like it’s even WORSE this year

[@chrisinhuman3]

I knew I wasn’t tripping with the input delays! It feels even more exaggerated online with rhythm shooting on catch and shoot/standstill shots. I’m still trying to figure it out

[@ndnghostkeeper7216]

Literally had to go back to x

[@jarradpage2967]

EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!! This is the best breakdown of what is going on under the hood in the game with shooting. This will help all shooters be prepared for their cues better. Now we know which situations we'll get to our cue faster or slower.

[@ImBlazeGotti]

The thing is we suffer and the cheaters still cheating

[@ThePoorFluffy]

Exactly what cheater have you encountered in the past week?

[@Senpaizy]

Whos we, just adjust bro.

[@YoungVampireLifestyle]

That’s the craziest part. We gotta play through this while the cheaters find a work around in a hour

[@ImBlazeGotti]

@@YoungVampireLifestyle facts

[@ReeFStackz]

@@ThePoorFluffy2k gods event , park , there’s plenty of cheater where u can use meter they even found a Raytheon shooting script

[@ctturner6017]

There is no reason shooting should be this difficult. Smh 2k is trippin!! This is insane😤😤😤

[@Balenciss]

Exactly 🤣 like it’s a video game. It should be the same timing every time. But zens unfortunately ruined that for the normal people

[@WittyWondersYeet]

shooting isnt difficult. Youre just buns. I hit a 96% with rhythm shotting

[@thermalman211]

@@WittyWondersYeetthe majority of players aren’t enjoying the game yes YOU can shoot I shoot ok, but it’s maybe 5 to 10 percent of players shooting consistently and the best players aren’t even shooting 50 percent this year

[@Balenciss]

@@WittyWondersYeet it definitely is. I shouldn’t have to be forced to use the stick..

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

@@Balencissnah don’t say that. 2k not wanting to deal with zens is the problem.

[@cartertriceii8741]

I know im not crazy tho. Ive always timed it by visual animation every 2k and have always shot above 70 but im telling yall the cue itself changes as well. I will green the first 4 shots, miss 2 because suddenly im slightly earlying, and then im slightly lateing. Ive even had times where its been user error and ive called early and its somehow a green lmao. Somebody give me a small guard jumper because everything i try feels like its changing every couple shots

[@cryhfox-gamingandanimenews9992]

Facts.

[@starseedpitstop685]

Kyrie base set and release. Max release speed one tick over push yw

[@lukelbeckford6842]

It’s definitely changing every 2 or 3 shots

[@josiahdandre]

Unfortunately it doesn’t matter better off making a slasher

[@LoopGawdTV]

You know what else I noticed about MyCourt. If you play Mycareer on Rookie , Pro, All star, HOF, etc…the difficulty is also apparent in mycourt. Basically if you switch your seatings to “rookie” in mycourt, you’ll hit more shots than you would on HOF (the most difficult) . How I found this out was the side quest that you have to play jimmy BUTLER and the State Farm guy. I lost to them 10 straight times because I had my difficulty on HOF. The moment I turned it on Rookie. I 21-0 them.

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

This has been a known fact for years.

[@joeykrutilla3224]

I’m just laughing at the thought of Jake from State Farm beating you so badly you knew something had to be wrong😂i played when I was lower overall it was still tough lmao

[@LoopGawdTV]

@@joeykrutilla3224 it was really jimmy butler doing all the work. 😂. I stopped playing on the build for days because I couldn’t progress. It was on HOF the entire time. 😂.

[@joeykrutilla3224]

@@LoopGawdTV 😂😂😂😂

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

@@joeykrutilla3224 i can kind of relate to him because it’s not Jake that wins. Jimmy butler is himmy butler when you play against him in the story mode games.

[@WoodroHidro]

Passing feels delayed as well, I feel like I have to spam the button I’m icon passing to.

[@requix11]

Nah seriously it drives me nuts. I’ll be hitting it so many times I put my controller up to my mic so my teammates can hear how much I’m hitting the button 😂 it’s insane.

[@lukelbeckford6842]

Everything is delayed game is ass playing online

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

Game is bad af. Way worse than 24. It’s like in 24 there were good ppl and there were bad ppl also there was cheese. But it’s like on this game everyone’s bad. Unless you’re using rhythm shooting which isn’t a skill gap. Ppl just don’t wanna use that bs.

[@dirtymfdawg7654]

I feel like it’s always been like this, it’s just this year u can see the meter earlier where in previous years the meter would just skip frames on you

[@HolyProphetJC]

I played NBA live 19 for 3 years before I switched to 2K I never had any input lag In NBA Live 19. It shows how much 2K really does not care anymore about their product. 2K has not built a game from the ground up in years and relying off old engine for a long time now which is why the game feels bloated and never finish.

[@yaopps4416]

So a wider green window is the only way to combat input delay and latency outside of spending money on better servers

[@kwill333]

The input delay was put in there on purpose to change shot timings on different shot types. Has nothing to do with the servers.

[@DJ_Films03]

​@@kwill333 was put there on purpose? Bro I just got off a 12 hour shift I'm not trying to do all yhat

[@anthonygonzalez3720]

​@@DJ_Films03I put in 70 hours a week too... I get it.. just keep in mind, without alternate timings, we'd have cheaters on modded controllers obliterating the rest of us

[@Kobesochill]

@@anthonygonzalez3720with all due respect no matter what there’s cheaters just give a chance to compete by removing shot timing

[@Kobesochill]

@@anthonygonzalez3720also even if I run into one every game won’t have someone cheating so I’ll take muscle memory

[@argosbrave6415]

3:15 I feel like a lot of y’all missed this part

[@mikeesteves8427]

i think the worst is when you combine the speed of the catch and shoot with the slowdown of a bad catch. they whole catch animation will play out just for your player to explode into the jumper at lightning speed. i can never time these.

[@kingkeveis8042]

This man is a genius , we must protect tutes at all times

[@kd3]

Not gone lie I think it has something to do with the triple threat style. Triple threat styles do different things when you catch it with your hands and with your feet. That’s why if you wait a second to let the triple threat go through the motion then shoot it will be more accurate

[@SaxualiTea]

On my wnba player I rock Stephen Curry But my male character I always rocked with Kobe

[@joeykrutilla3224]

I was using lamelo then switched to Caruso and I’m not gonna lie it’s a huge difference

[@slowleak0]

on god i was jus thinking this a few days ago

[@stefan_green]

What a discovery. Huge W Tutes!!! Ur a 2k savior man

[@ipoop0123]

Is the visual cue still the same? Should i lower my shot speed to give myself time to react to the varies shot speeds.

[@uzibitch1]

Man, there's nothing you can really do. It's just some BS

[@russjordan6186]

People have been experimenting with 3/4 speed on their jumper and having good results

[@brody8857]

@@russjordan6186 I run 2/4 on my jumper

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

They nerfed catch and shoots badge and the actual mechanic and made set shot shooter the preferred mechanic.

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

Right. They made it where you have to be “set” to hit a hood shot. I have shifty shooter and that thing never activates.

[@hutchdakilla4295]

2K has always been like this. A pull up jumper vs a standstill vs a catch and shoot will all have different timing. Fade aways as well. They’ve had it like this every year since the beginning

[@vtricko2391]

I think there’s something wrong with the visual cues as well. Push feels more like set point and set point feels more like jump

[@slowleak0]

💯

[@Pazuzoo]

The problem isn't that timing changes, 23 did the same thing. Knowing the visual cue you can still hit very consistently, but the timing change is much more exaggerated this 2k (especially for standing shots) combined with a smaller green window (at least with high risk), then you add in latency being wildly variable and it's just too many disruptive factors. Basically, it's too strict to combine with the different levels of lag I've experienced in REC. I've had games with timing basically the same as my court, and I've had games where I released the stick on rhythm shooting a full half second BEFORE the follow through even appeared and got a green.

[@mikehunt9884]

always practice on outside empty court, cause it has latency, learn to rely on your shot's visual cue instead of trying to learn the timing with muscle memory, and use the rhythm shooting if you're doing catch+shoot or spot up shots. Unless you're good at comboing dribble moves and rhythm shooting, personally i can't do it.

[@Eskeletor_210]

You can connect to the servers in the mycourt by inviting an offline friend from the phone

[@gucciak-4740]

Sucks for guards, having to hit some combo moves and then shoot off the dribble with the stick is ass

[@mikehunt9884]

@@gucciak-4740 i dunno steezo put up a video, but i didn't watch it.

[@nickgarcia7764]

Is it just me or does this feel like the smoothest 2k we’ve had in years? My boys and I really only play Pro Am and Proving Grounds and in there we’ve had no latency issues whatsoever. Park and Rec has had its problems tho.

[@PAYROLLNEQ]

You helped me learn my shot timing last year. Idk if I can get it this year

[@tmac314]

So does timing stability help with this?

[@Fiftylockedn]

I like how you said it’s not a complaint. We know when the community doesn’t like a change Mike wang reverts it and it kind of messes up other parts of gameplay. As gameplay director I think Mike knows what he’s doing and I feel the only problem is that he and the game itself doesn’t explain changes good enough. At least it’s good to know there’s a pure green window. I know he might change it back to what it was but honestly I’ve kind of adapted to the shooting. Just time catch and shoots early, standstill regular and off the dribble late.

[@kaqbroken6943]

tutes n lab always working hard for us❤

[@nomanspace7118]

i think these "load-ups" are always there in 2k. For me the difference b/t c&t and pull-up j is quite noticable. The latter one is more delayed than the normal c&t, it's just the matter of how much, which is based on the shot base (i think?).

[@MIYayYo]

Late comment but Tutes, have you tested the shot boost percentage between Low-Risk, Normal-Risk, and High-Risk with Shot Boost? I feel like since there is no pure green window and on High-Risk, you have to green your shot in order to make it, shot boost really wouldn’t make that much of a difference whereas using Low-Risk, your shot make percentage will increase since whites are more likely to go in.

[@moneymaine9562]

Plesee answer this so off the dribble you have to hold it longer then any other timing right ?

[@hutchdakilla4295]

Oh and one more tip. Meter dunks weren’t consistent for me using the normal method. If you hit right analog down twice in a row it triggers the anomatiom every single time

[@hutchdakilla4295]

Another thing, a lot of people don’t know. On defense, especially if you are a guard hold the right analog stick in the exact direction of the person you’re guarding. Focus on that and you don’t really need to worry about anything else. Watch how much easier it makes your life.

[@Thawarah]

Does strength still matter even without post control, when trying to do post moves? Backing down, spinning, drop step etc..

[@BigPatTV]

i think this has always been like this from as long as i can remember as far as input delay i just think it has gotten worse somehow or they have made it worse on purpose how tou indicated to combat zens

[@sebaskeys8807]

Tutes is literally the goat in giving us all the info we need. Thank you so much 🙏

[@PancakeFace2211]

Is there also an output lag when we release the button?

[@chrys9six804]

Your a God send Tutes, I noticed this last night researching a shot for my 5'9 lock. I can't explain exactly but I think that 50% or 75% release speed is a sweet spot this year among anything involving shooting. Hope you can do a vid on it to see if there's any deeper correlation between visual cue and release speed.

[@RCtheRuthless]

Does holding turbo make your shot faster on a catch and shoot?

[@Soopology]

We still got people talking about servers in the comments. The servers are bad but that wasn’t the point of this video at all. 2K is purposely changing up the timing. There is no lag in Blacktop & yet he still got the same results. Did y’all watch the whole video?? This community is dense.

[@raiderjedi4160]

They are mentioning whatever they want to in the comment section, welcome to free speech.

[@BycraftyYyYy]

I shoot 40% from three on a big with a 42 3pt rating with shot stick

[@BycraftyYyYy]

Do a 3pt rating threshold video I use high risk

[@Generalkillaman]

Visually is the best way and rhythm. The way you catch the ball too, that input lag is crazy this 2k

[@TheMontyR6]

Can you test layup timing profiles? Low Risk Normal Risk High Risk Real Player Percentage I want to know the make / green % for “Very Tight” High Risk vs Real Player Percentage

[@Wildcard0094]

Thanks! I instantly subscribed 🔥

[@bigmike3007]

It’s crazy that they have to add all these things this game is so broken and it could be fun at times but the overall offensive experience is crazy

[@A1FBG_Mexico]

Why 2k ain’t informing us about this! Make this man a developer asap 😂😂😂

[@SP3XTRO]

No one’s talked about it but how does timing profile impact rhythm shooting

[@oao__bdon1577]

Its the same as the button you’ll hit whites instead of timing both u only have to time one sometimes just like how with the button u can mistime it and it’ll still go in cuz of the normal and low shot profile

[@therealkhobe]

Its simple really If you have fast release you will have a fast tempo and push If you have a slow release you’ll have a slow tempo and push (If its slow you have to hold the stick down longer before pushing it up and vice versa)

[@bigodawg1154]

Yea dis my last year playin 2k 💯

[@Wynn253]

I feel like it’s been like this the past few years

[@shinigamirenegade]

It makes sense in one arguement why you would miss the shots at 1:10 because catch and shoot is gone. And i been doing that recently is when I shoot i wait abour .500 something ms and i been making more shots compared to before. But it doesnt makes sense because if you know your animation it shouldnt skew your shot and shot making. So thats why alot of ppl have been missing shots because theyre rushing to shoot and not gathering for half of a second then shooting. I think a big reeason is to deter zen users. Theyll still make shots but it wont be as frequently i guess

[@GoulaLegamer]

the big problem is the green window being the same ... the green window should move in regard of the input lag

[@gauravjadav4618]

This is a great video dude awesome work

[@y13.c]

Yo is strong handle effected by height or nah?

[@blAZinSports4k]

I feel like it was like this in previous versions too, Youve just gotta know youre shot really well and you can release at the right time for all the different shot animations. Thats my experience anyways...

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

No. It wasn’t.

[@MrMeeks92]

I use rhythm on my big man and point guard, I noticed its much more consistent with the Big because im shooting the same catch and shoot shots and stand still. With my guard its super different but this video will help a ton in the sense that i just need to make sure my catch and shoot timing is quicker than off the dribble and stand still shots 💪🏽💪🏽

[@pluis0r]

it makes total sense. You press the button during an Animation, what do you expect the game to do? Instantly cancel out the Animation and shoot? Like the Ball is mid Air in the Dribble but magically you have it in both hands to shoot?

[@iamjonreed]

This game is so broken in so many ways. It actually blows my mind how after decades of just making a basketball game every year they somehow broke almost every fundamental way the gameplay mechanics work

[@Osegonz]

Why change the timing of the shot. If they want to make shooting tougher, how about make playing defense worth a damn. If they leave some wide open than they should have a higher percentage of making the shot and green shot. If some shoots a ball while a defender is .5 inch away from you the shooter they SHOULD MISS. That's realistic!

[@ShonenTProductions]

Can you do legend Badge ranks. Which Legend gives the best value and most effect

[@isiight.]

We don’t have all that info yet. That’s at least 4 months away minimum

[@TheBdonny]

This was the same in previous 2k at least from 19. Zen users exposed themselves because they often took the same types of shots

[@DirtySouth56]

It is always changing. I mastered that cam Thomas jumper and it'll still change even when I release it perfectly.

[@Mista808]

Dunk Timing is always changing too! Every single year I always start off each 2K with no problems dunking! I can dunk in peoples faces, I can dunk using SQUARE and I can dunk using the metered dunk as well without any problems! But after the first week or two of playing suddenly my ability to dunk goes out the window and instead the game decides to force me into the slowest layup animations of all time which of course end up getting blocked more than half the time and it makes me look like a clueless moron! That's where I'm at right now actually! I have a 6'3 Inside Outside Iso Specialist with a 96 driving dunk and HALL OF FAME POSTERIZER and for some reason in the last 3 days my character basically REFUSES to go up for a dunk 80% of the time I actually TRY to go up for a dunk! It literally makes no sense whatsoever! This happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR! The crazy thing is, my guy will prioritize going up for a layup even when my layup was only in the 50s! Why the hell would 2K force my character into a layup when my layup skill is only in the 50s when my dunking ability is at 96 with HALL OF FAME BADGES that are specifically meant for dunking? I honestly wish there was a way to completely TURN OFF the ability to attempt a layup and just force me into a dunk animation even if it leads to me missing more of the dunk attempts!

[@kahleel7304]

SHOOTING IS COOKED WHAT DA HELL??!?!?!

[@webackup]

I see what 2k did this year they tried to change the shooting so people won’t use zens but it’s messed the game up

[@DifferentLevels]

This is why I just use the Rhythm Shooting cause that's a visual cue only

[@bxpak1975]

I’ve lost so many games cause of shooting.. for some reason my opponent hits slightly early and slightly late shots.. however I can’t make shots unless it’s excellent .. it’s crazy!! is anybody else experiencing this??

[@ZaSeason]

If you have trouble shooting this year just put your jumpshot 3/4 speed, your welcome

[@DarrylDinero28]

🔥🔥

[@AfG_313]

I noticed this about a week ago, faster off catch n shoot and if I dribble create a shot it’s slower fade is slower too than catch n shoot

[@krzysiek141414]

I believe even with the same shot types, standstill three let's say, the green window shifts a little bit back and forth. I was hoping this would get tested here

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

Right. Idk why he not testing this. It’s making me feel like him and 2k are playing with us.

[@Fella_Jake]

Are you going to do a test on the triple threat styles and shooting again? Just looking at Steph’s triple threat style, he might have a longer loaded up when he brings it down low. Previously in the last 2k Joel Embid was the move for shooting.

[@kingcontraian]

I don’t think it’s input lag. I think the animation just begins a fraction sooner (with respect to the catch and shoot) which creates an illusion of input lag, but it’s not actually lag. It’s just that the animation begins sooner and throws off the timing. You can clearly see the animation begins for the catch and shoot before the other one which would throw off the rhythm of a shot.

[@maxwellnails]

It’s definitely an input lag. I play pg and you can definitely feel it. Like you’re stuck in mud. It’s trash

[@copasetiqcee7945]

I watch the ball and the timing screws up after I green a shot. I release the same time and method and all of a sudden….every shot is slightly late.. I try to adjust and then it’s slightly early…I believe 2k decrease the green window making it harder to time your shot once rhythm is established….

[@CoachP163]

You just might be the goat Tutes

[@fofiggitty]

Man you are incredible Tutes thank you!

[@Mista808]

Same thing I've said for years! I have one simple question. Why is 2K the only franchise that refuses to show us our ping/latency to their servers? I'll tell you why! Because they know their servers are trash AF and they know that ALL OF US would be looking at a RED BAR instead of 3 green lights indicating that our connection is DOG WATER and ALL OF OUR FOCUS would finally be on the REAL PROBLEM that has plagued this franchise from the very beginning of it's inception! The 500-750 milliseconds of lag that has plagued 2K since the beginning would finally be put under a microscope! 2K doesn't want that! Please tell me why Rocket League, Rainbow 6, Rust, Call of Duty, (I could literally name off more than a thousand games) that all will show you your latency to their servers.. but a triple A title like 2K refuses to show us our latency! I wish a 2K content creator with a million subs would read this comment and finally shine light on this subject! It's disgusting how laggy 2K is and it's even more disgusting that for more than a decade they did a good job trying to convince everyone who asked this question that it was THEIR INTERNET having problems when in reality it's been 2K and their shit servers the ENTIRE TIME!

[@EYESOTLBUSMC]

Does this apply to rhythm shooting also?

[@DarrylDinero28]

W KZbin Channel Mann🔥🔥

[@lrdmcd914]

Anyone who played basketball knows what "shot pocket" and "1&2 motion shots" means... That input lag he's talking about is the time of the ball getting to the shot pocket... Imagine you doing a crossover into a hesi into a jumper... Now, imagine catching a ball by your chest into a jumper.... Which you think is closer to your release?

[@sincereburden3]

Will you test which attributes weigh more in terms of making a build. And ranking them would be dope!

[@zl4660]

I think it’s logical cuz when u catch the ball ur hands are already up at where ur chin is(where the meter starts), when u standing still u still need time to raise ur hands to that point and of course when ur dribbling u have one hand on the ball so u need time to gather ur hands, raise your hands and then shoot

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

That has nothing to do with your shot but ok.

[@zl4660]

@@GlobalgamingCJ that’s why the time of how fast ur meter fills is consistent cuz that’s the “shot” the so called “latency” is just natural preparation the players body/hands need to do before entering the actual shot motion. it’d be weird if ur dribbling with one hand on the ball and as soon as u press shooting button u player shoots with zero transition/delay

[@dat_one_kid_melo1447]

What setting we use for layups? Real player % or high risk?

[@theblackrabbit2011]

I really think they added all the extra shot timing stuff in order to have some cover this year.

[@gusskeyes2791]

🤔 Does timing stability in the jump shot creator matter this year?

[@kylejohnson5371]

They need to just go back to how it used to be this game already feels weird enough

[@harbinger794]

So it’s not RNG on shots? It’s a built in input lag that’s changes depending on the type of shot you take? That actually doesn’t sound bad

[@nba2ktutes]

in terms of input lag, yes

[@The0nlyy]

Exactly, it’s not “AlWaYs ChAnGiNg”. Each shot has its own timing. I thought catch and shoot, shooting off dribble, and stand still shots have always had different timing… how is this some big revelation?

[@ja1boi]

It’s doesn’t sound bad until you realize you’re playing 2k. Then you have to account for bad or good server latency. Then what animation you’re getting for the shot. Catch and shoot it self has like 3 or 4 different animations. A super fast one, a hitch, the input lag one when it takes like a second or two to shoot, and finally a fade when you sat still for a second and it still throws you. Then you have the standard catch and shoot we all know and love. So five. I found fading shifty shooter shoots to be way more consistent.

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

It could be input lag and rng. If tutes were to test 100 times with 1 shot all perfectly greened, I doubt he make all 100. Idk why he hasn’t made that video.

[@GlobalgamingCJ]

It’s like he’s trying to do some grand reveal. This video was helpful but I feel there’s information that he’s not giving us.

[@sizzojuan]

With these different timings, does your triple threat style affect the speed of your jumpshot also?

[@Sainjj]

Even though there is some level of input lag on most if not all games i've never seen input lag on the same level. Couple this with trash servers and it's a damn mess

[@qy0217qyqyqy]

Again, I like this kind of latency to differentiate different types of shots in a logic way. In real life different types of shots should have different gather speed. C&S being fastest and off the dribble being the slowest. Of course this screws me up badly because I am not a good shooter and just a casual player. Still for the sake of the game being realistic, I still love this chance just like what they did for block and interior defense.

[@jeremycaison9199]

Can you test the shot stability rating? Does it make shot timing more consistent?

[@williamgregory9006]

So does the actual shot meter mean anything then? I mean does the meter take into account the differences between animations and as long as you release the button at the top it'll be a good shot?

[@antoniotate4939]

It’s the green window that’s allowing you to make it after a few seconds

[@bonymac23]

That was my same thought as well....reason why the shooting is inconsistent.. for the cheaters out there and it actually makes sense

[@5lim.0]

Ok I kinda don’t hate this IF it means that your shot timing is essentially based on the shooting animation. Release the ball at your player’s visual cue and you’ll green is fine with me

[@PedroBucarelli]

I noticed that, glad you dives into this and confirm.

[@officialulti]

Last night i was left alone on the right wing for a wide open shot. since i had all the time in the world i waited so it wouldn’t be a catch and shoot animation. I already made two 3’s in a row so i didnt want to get mike wanged. waited and waited but i noticed my character was holding the ball next to the head idk why. i shot it anyways. Shot speed was on 1000. Barely touched the button and it just launched the ball slightly late by just taping the button. and im on push. never seen that kind of animation, speed, and ball being held before the shot even after i took my sweet time