The Worst Update in TDS History

[@propellars]

This was actually the best tds update ever because it added neko dj sorry I forgot to put that in the video THANKS TO EGGRYPTED AND EVERYONE I USED FOOTAGE FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bimbim37_]

neko dj fr??????

[@danaeehernandez7597]

Simp

[@Schumngus902]

neko dj!!!!!1!1!1

[@coolbroxz]

Adf

[@Speggtacular_egg]

Everyone forgets something in life, just like how we forgot about zombie madness

[@Tronvibes]

The only really disappointing part about the hardcore update was the fact that 1. Most of the tower back then got a huge rework to the point it’s not even useable at all (especially the John tower), 2. The removal of Golden mode and Plat crates, and finally 3. Which was that it was region locked when entering hardcore lobby (which they already change that so thank god). But now with the current TDS I am glad that they’re slowly coming back up where they used to be before the entire hardcore update that.

[@rowenamirasol3792]

Hey atleast militant eventually was usable

[@Tronvibes]

@@rowenamirasol3792 I mean yeah, but the only down side of it is that it lost its rage ability which boosts every towers DPS

[@rowenamirasol3792]

@@Tronvibes they just made john into a beginner tower basically

[@j_ustanoob]

freezer :(

[@ajalubieciastka8369]

Also towers redesign removed personality for them and their skins. I was so sad when they removed wraiths mini p90s, toy minis dart animation or tweeter minis scars. Now towers are really good quality and I'm OK with changes but before they weren't that good IMO.

[@rofialhd]

with the data migration issue i lost 3 golden towers, commando and gladiator. it was a horrible experience and i will never get those towers back without spending robux in the game (gtowers not included in that tho)

[@SalutationsUponThee]

I feel so bad for you. I hope you get them back soon 😞

[@moonTerfixx.]

Bro i once lost all of my towers in the game but then got them back after a few hours wym

[@rofialhd]

@@moonTerfixx. golden towers yes but you don't get the commando and gladiator by playing the game normally anymore

[@moonTerfixx.]

@@rofialhd i still have all old event towers except for glad cause i didnt beat that event

[@rofialhd]

@@moonTerfixx. I don't bc of the data issue

[@sleepykoda]

I think that this game could really use a big rebalancing update, especially with the modes and certain towers but it has definitely gotten a lot better since then.

[@filippohl9097]

They BROKE Rocketeer and Mortar into something unusable and barely usable

[@Swagtfiy]

BRING BACK OLD ENFORCER 👺👺👺

[@barrenwanderers5655]

Wouldn't be surprised if they got help from Tower Blitz's tower balancer.

[@okgoose3305]

No instead you get PETS! The most useful feature ever!

[@savagespider6836]

@@filippohl9097 Tds buff update making rocketeer good again:

[@JamestonSilvers]

In my honest opinion, I've watched the game grow since 2019. It's had ups and downs. But everything that happened after the Egg Hunt event just spiralled downhill. Nowadays, I don't get as much enthusiasm as I did before with TDS. Something has changed. It just isn't the same anymore. On another note, great video, it basically sums up the Hardcore Live update. I enjoyed it very much.

[@yeeternoob2010]

It's a miracle that they managed to find their footing after the hardcore update I mean sure it took a year of therapy but a recovery is a recovery

[@ninesevenfive_975]

The thing I don’t like about this update is all the features they removed. I was at the point where I could play hardcore but not good enough to beat it. I felt fallen became much harder and molten and normal were way too easy to beat. Since golden was gone it made it much worse. Also the delay was bad because of that I missed the live event but it didn’t seem too important anyway. Also I might’ve been bad because I didn’t use supports that often. And without accel, I lost Halloween 2020. But the toxic gunner wasn’t that good anyway. I think the game has gotten a lot better after that, but the overhaul update still has some lasting affects. For example, they can’t make normal easier or molten harder, golden is still gone and, hardcore has a way to early level to play. I think it should be around level 75 or 100 at this point. but they could always make hardcore easier because it’s stupid you pretty much need accel or engi to beat it which is silly, considering you get those from playing hardcore. Also outlaw is a better name than ranger

[@ninesevenfive_975]

@purple_duck_bee I guess you’re right but they should definitely make hardcore early on easier maybe not having 3 shadow bosses on wave 25 or just making more money. Whatever it is, hardcore is unbalanced and accel is way to meta and barely obtainable unless you want to spend a lot of time grinding.

[@piotrm5635]

toxic gunner was actualy overpowered on realese, he was able to slow down bosses a lot

[@cabecareal]

4:30 actually, the deluxe crate didnt exist yet, it was introduced on the final overhaul testings a few days before the update actually released, so yes they were on the right crates

[@Xenoversify]

I will say that the Overhaul update was one of the bigger dissapointments I've ever witnessed. I was part of the live event, but the meteors did not fall down. Instead, the lobby floor just vanished. At least that's how I remember it happened to me. Plus, the game was not so kind to me as i was unable to play a single match in the new Beta form of the update. Not a regular match, not even Hardcore.

[@XenoPlazma]

Dang, I lost all of my progress and because lvl 1 again.

[@skaiomg]

LMFAO yeah for me it was just frozen sadly. i was able to play but it took a while

[@Gab12345BR]

for me the live event worked, welp the first part worked, the second i entered the portal i got disconnected

[@Sharkghosts]

I love ur vids (the editing is good, and you have original ideas)

[@jokerman2189]

remember that the molten brawler in tower heros had 1m hp and nobody was crying their ass off

[@jokerman2189]

and still does to this day

[@flipsees]

i will never understand why the devs ended up blaming the COMMUNITY for all the bugs in THEIR game that THEY set the expectations for

[@brayonyx14]

as stated in the video, the devs felt rushed by the community to get the update done. they had already delayed it once, so delaying it a second would probably have gotten them a significant amount of backlash. its unfortunate and i personally think they should have just delayed it, but i guess they didn't wanna kill the momentum they had and let down the community again. also, they didn't blame the community, at least not in the examples shown in the video. they themselves admitted that the game had "incomplete and broken features"

[@Gamerudios]

@@brayonyx14 the devs shouldnt feel rushed "by the community," especially when they set their own deadlines, publicly announced them, and made expectations that the updates would be 100% done by then which obviously ended up not working. Not to mention doing that was a stupid game dev play, for hype-building purposes or not.

[@Glos_Yt]

@@Gamerudiosdude if the devs would’ve delayed it, a lot of players could leave the game which would decrease their income by a shit ton

[@Gamerudios]

@@Glos_Yt You missed my point, they can release the update whenever they want, but announcing deadline adds an expectation from the community and the problem is that the devs couldn't meet it

[@Glos_Yt]

@@Gamerudios because they think that they can get stuff done faster but then other stuff comes in life that is unexpected.

[@pursuit2506]

I gotta say that the update was a downfall at first but they reinstated it to somewhat ok. Great video but I have mainly one complaint besides from this fail of an update, the gems. The way gems are given when playing hardcore even to this day is pretty inconsistent especially when trying to buy the engineer. I feel like the devs should at least do something about that since most of us don't have the time to grind.

[@propellars]

Yeah I think the whole gem-tower-hardcore dichotomy is not a super good system

[@seal1818]

​@@propellarsyes

[@iamnotlike2913]

honestly i would rather still have thr og style than new updated one

[@coolgamer916]

Keep up the great work! I love your content!

[@epicomedian]

I really like the style of content your trying to make, the storytelling was amazing i hope to see more!

[@ardimations1121]

I wish that when they released the hardcore update, they kept the new looks, but didn’t reword literally everything

[@An1hony]

I remember being at the event and it sucked how tons of features were removed or changed. I ended up quitting the game for a good half a year with maybe a few rounds every couple weeks during it.

[@bruhchannel1216]

me: damn i need some sleep a video about a game im sorta interested in: allow me to introdouce myself

[@Teaspoon9205]

Another thing was the variety that the premium minigunner skins offered. Some skins used totally diferent weapons instead of the minigun. Now they just feel like NFTs

[@TopHat994penguin]

0:37 Why golden cowboy holding it like that dawg 💀😭😭

[@agameboy]

i remember being in the live event but this update was the biggest delayed update in tds history lol

[@eee1925]

I had data migration issues too. My level was lower and I had fewer towers but interestingly, I somehow had the shotgunner tower (I didnt buy it before the event)

[@rojirax2817]

Back in the days, i played tower defense simulator, and when the live hardcore update was gonna release, i was at school......

[@shenkorte7337]

The archer event was really hard as you didn’t get it by beating the event rather got tickets and had to pick the correct box (9-12) with rng deciding your fate. Kinda wish they gave back the holiday skin to ogs.

[@Floofey]

lil bro predicted the future 😭2:36 (the guy yapping in the bottom right)

[@roumer]

Type shi

[@Lincyna]

Designer and Creator of Accelerator Tower here. The update was a Hell of a clusterfuck as the developers lacked motivation and originality with the update ever since the release of... I think the event of when Lord Sinister was released. Did I like the update when they first released Hardcore? Well, yeah. I did. Because I wanted to see how the Accelerator Tower performed (Spoiler alert: it was okay, but Jesus Christ). The owner is devious, and it's apparent if you get to know him deeply. When I say the game and the devs begin to lack originality, I mean it. The reason why Golden Titan was removed is that the enemy and design were solely ripped from a famous non-ROBLOX game, Risk of Rain 2 (fun game, try it!), and the same for other enemies/bosses. Y'know, it's funny that to those who played Minecraft before, you damn know that he ripped the designs from other games and even the ideas from Tower Battles. I shit you not; Accelerator Tower was/is based on Phaser from Tower Battles with identical usage until it was just a "burst-damage Tower with a short cooldown." The developers and the owners seriously lack the ways and knowledge of entertaining the players now. It just makes me disappointed and sad to see how the game and the brain rot community have become. I doubt there is a way to redeem themselves after many TERRIBLE updates and changes. I like to thank you for this video; I just got tired and felt a little motivation to share this small portion of my rant about this game. Just because the game is so popular doesn't mean they have the right and power to change or take everything as part of their ownership.

[@gregger_mcgregger]

Y’know, MASSIVE respect to you for actually speaking out about this. Below barely communicates with its fans and doesn’t tell us the full thing and usually when I say the same thing people just tell me that “I cant do better.” (Please, never use that argument, it’s not good and insanely overused.) But yeah, I doubt tds is sadly gonna change in general, which really sucks and is honestly kind of sad, especially seeing a lot of games go down this same cycle.

[@slav1kc]

So it was your idea to take phaser..?

[@Lincyna]

@@slav1kc Nope, it was BelowNatural's idea.

[@slav1kc]

@@Lincyna Oh ok

[@Polaraisc]

​@@Lincynaare you a tds dev?

[@mangomelody5044]

One thing that I would have loved to see for hardcore is a monthly changing or even seasonal type game mode (since realistically 1 month changes for game modes are hard), where every either 1, or 3 months they would change the wave structures, focusing on a certain gimmick. Double spawns but less hp, most enemies are flying, or metal, etc. With then changing the types of enemies that come out. Being a ever changing challenge other than events focusing on that idea. Every time it updated it would have brought back quite a bit of people to try the new seasonal or monthly challenge of what is hardcore mode.

[@loganrhys5813]

sounds like a great idea ngl , the only thing id add to tht is change the inflation to like 20 -30% or hell make it scale every round up to like 50%

[@Kris-ce1po]

this idea will utilise modifiers perfectly imo

[@jamie28gaming]

imagine having multiple mental issues that you are trying to overcome in your life and your fans immediately start calling the game you have been working so hard on your entire life "tower delay simulator"

[@legendhelp0]

one good thing about the hardcore beta was the golden soldier's design with the golden laser turret

[@propellars]

yeah its a shame that model got abandoned so quickly

[@hakprodz]

i think this is the most quality youtuber i have ever seen about TDS, i really enjoyed the video edition, keep the great work, ill be checking ur channel for new videos like this lol

[@Kaebuki]

Bug testing and community involvement. That’s what the dev team needed.

[@Eg_Boi]

lesson for game devs here: always have a update more then half complete before announcing an event, and make sure to play test it

[@skyanz.1369]

The Holiday Archer I had the same reaction with you lol

[@Clowngaming-ex2wi]

i really like this style of content and would like if u made more

[@propellars]

thanks I probably will (maybe the half a year wait for frost invasion next)

[@kierrific1357]

I was a part of the hardcore live event. I got teleported under the map and got kicked. I couldn't even experience the rest of the event.

[@MysteryMoe1]

I love these vids!!! Keep up the good work!!!!😊

[@Daboss204-erq]

I remember before the event started I accidentally entered an elevator and it didn’t let me leave and it didn’t let me rejoin so I missed the entire event

[@OOFUS4103]

I feel like this update ruined the previous charm and balancing that tds used to have. And while they have mostly recovered, many towers are still straight up unusable compared to their pre-overhaul versions, the skins are much less unique, and hardcore still has gotten little updates, for what they were considering to be the biggest part of the overhaul.

[@wartyfut1234]

this seems, oddly familiar now. act 3 sucks

[@Nobody2-i4k]

Tds generally doesn’t handle difficulty well, obviously normal mode is broken but it goes behind that. Molten mode is way too easy and the gap between it and fallen is massive, not to mention how most of the “skill” in this game is owning the best towers and having them shred everything effortlessly. Hardcore mode makes this even worse by forcing you to use towers with variety of detections in the early game, drastically reducing the usable tower selection, as for the late game of hardcore, the difficulty has shifted around a lot over the time and I think it’s in an acceptable spot right now, I think there are strategies that don’t require special towers to unlock but this wasn’t always the case. Overall: this game kinda sucks why do people (including me) still play it lol

[@Userman74526]

isn't tds inspired by tower battles?

[@TheKnifeSoldier]

Which is inspired by bloons so when he says it's inspired by bloons he's right but actually wrong

[@Userman74526]

@@TheKnifeSoldier bloons defiently wasn't the first tower defense.

[@JohnSilas-oi5mz]

@@Userman74526yeah but they have a bunch of good original ideas

[@Redactedvids]

​@@Userman74526 btd popularized tower defense games

[@ShAdOwSigHT_GD]

Engineer: trapper: nercomancer: gladiator: brawler: pursuit:

[@BakedPotato288]

This may be tied with The Lunar Overture now, specifically Act 3

[@ThecalifornianM16A2]

the hardcore update was the worst update ever, they could just add the mode and hardcore towers and not overhaul the game and delete things the community liked. 2 big example of things being deleted that the community liked was john tower and golden mode

[@hmmmman1373]

For being in the live event, this was really the worst update. golden mode was removed (it was alright anyways,) and many tower nerfs. But hey, i managed to grind for mecha base and use it.

[@idkwhattodowiththischannel2275]

I missed the hardcore event bc a HURRICANE hit my house and I had no power I was so pissed

[@borse123]

Keep the good work u have very good edits

[@formigacios]

I started playing when the event was about to start, the only thing i remember was the amount of people that was playing,sadly i stopped playing before the event starts because i lost the acount.

[@zabanilajim6754]

Your editing is so good

[@chrisfeilen7336]

7:50 "son, except, your still adopted."

[@Guest_5930]

ah..the 2020 TDS Hadcore update. So i was really confused when it came out (at the time i was around level 45 or so) and when i came out obviously, there was alot of bugs and all and i disliked the hardcore stuff and it made me quit tds, I eventually came back in the later half of 2021 but i don't love the game as much as i used to back in 2020, though, i will always remember the good times I had in 2020.

[@average_guy5636]

I love ur vids propellers keep up the good videos!!!

[@StevenHong1234]

I love these vids! Keep it up

[@edx1ty]

"why did they take away my 1 coin archer" - propellars

[@propellars]

:(

[@ted4eva]

So happy u posted!

[@eplayer009]

Well I was not there when this happened as I've never heard of TDS at that time but seeing this yeah I agree cause of the bugs in the event. Another video for the week, damn these are amazing, keep going propellars :D

[@AnimeBoyThoughts]

I love ur vids keep the good work up!!

[@hiddevanmarle538]

hey propel i just want you to know i love all your videos can't wait until the next one❤

[@yoshirox1264]

I have a question, what software do you use for recording? because the one im using doesn"t work

[@Dark3318]

i rlly hated that update to be honest i almost did quit the game but u could still go to normal lobby and play normally but then they removed the normal lobby and forced player to go to the trash lobby and to be honest it was the worst update ive ever seen on a tower defense game

[@Educationbox-n2]

I will watch anything u post also should I grind for engi???

[@rowenamirasol3792]

If you want you can

[@Educationbox-n2]

@@rowenamirasol3792 ok i gess

[@Petervan789]

This guy took more history than egypts past 🇪🇬

[@nobody.....1005]

8:15 Why did they take away my 1 coin archer? Is just said bro

[@thegamerpeople1185]

this was solely the worst update i have ever experienced in my entire life. first, event towers. I managed to get shredder, holiday archer, frost blaster, and swarmer, which were all very useful before the update. then came along overhaul. slasher, the terrible version of shredder, frost blaster, just a freezer with more damage, archer, the failure that cant do a single thing, and swarmer, pyro with a worse DoT with less rate of fire and a mediocre ability. the only good pre-overhaul event tower at this point is Gladiator, which you had to participate and win in the very first event, or spend a ton of robux to get. and its not just slightly better, but its miles ahead of every other pre-overhaul event tower combined. second, hardcore towers. before the overhaul update, you could unlock meta towers just by having fun and playing the game. but what did below say to that? no no, we cant have that, lets make every other lategame tower absolute garbage and make the only good towers locked behind a wall of mind-numbing pain and santity diminishing mode. who would even use ranger or turret compared to Accelerator and Engineer? third, reworking absolutely every tower in the game. i remember using electroshocker and dj before the overhaul update, and they were very fun and unique. electroshocker was more of a damage tower than a support tower, with cool graphics. dj had cool visuals, especially at max. i never managed to get mortar and pursuit in pre-overhaul because my account got hacked when i was around level 91, and just a few days later, mortar came out. but mortar and pursuit were both worth level 75 and 100. but now, are they really? the latest update tds has got has made them certainly better, but they still arent what they were before the overhaul update. outlaw was extremely powerful with hidden detection at base and small spash damage, but ranger is just a useless version of it. i hope your opinion on the overhaul update is swayed with this.

[@tepsy7666]

love how no one pointed out tds was inspired by tb (Which was then inspired by bloons) no respect for the elders!!!

[@Haminator343]

the old artstyle was way more unique and visually pleasing.

[@ToxicInjectionTDS]

why does the tower defense simulator logo in the corner of your thumbnails keep getting smaller lol Edit: Just realized that you completely removed it from the thumbnail, what??

[@propellars]

Mandela effect, i never had a tds logo in my thumbnails

[@CluelessDxry]

"Tower Defense Simulator is a game based on BTD3" "instantly gets memories from the tds and tb drama"

[@crimson1265]

0:04 feel like it’s more based on tower battles, seeing as how over half of their towers are the exact same

[@CheeseburgerChannelEpic728]

Based on and based off (often extended to based off of) means that something is formed or developed from a fact or event. So technically it is based off of Bloons Tower Defense since it was one of the first td game. (Hey, i’m not sure if this is true)

[@vyron-topic9592]

I'd LOVE to see more videos in this style, man

[@Bread1263]

I remember how I lost all my progress in tds. Luckily I didn’t give up

[@LordDabrusk]

hey are you hipped about tdx coming out pretty soon?

[@iamnotcooxking]

the worst update is when they just removed smile face from anyone

[@joey72033]

Propellars why did you use the cagney carnation sound track in this TDS video?

[@rookie5026]

I was actually there when it happened! I thought it would be funny to go into the elevator while the big something was coming from the sky, and I didn't see the full thing. I didn't really even play hardcore since I thought it was a massive downgrade from the normal TDS + it didn't save your data

[@counterfietgem832]

0:46-0:49 wait, isn't that the golem from risk of rain 2?

[@SHDOW_BONNIE]

I have all towers that aren't events or could get before except elf camp, so I need an update that makes golden towers or maybe some other towers because I cant really do hardcore, so I dont play the game from about 3 weeks.

[@rendola1514]

noob

[@AngryBird___]

Worst update is overhaul update. It broke my heart and i quited tds for a long time.

[@UnCursed]

the devs should have time to fix up, beta test, and other things before releasing it. blaming it on "community pressure" was not it. maybe dont announce the date and beta test first.

[@zawn8221]

They really just saw the Jailbreak live event that peaked it's live player count and go: "Hey I can steal that and so I did"

[@DunnoWhatMyName]

Let’s take a moment to realize I have a gun if you don’t subscribe to propellers

[@StellarisEnjoyer]

Bro the iron golem at the start really looks line the one from Risk Of Rain 2, it even has the same melee animation

[@glorpiser]

i think the real worst update in tds history was when they removed the classic roblox faces

[@Seannosaurus]

i started playing in august 2019, and i quit after the live event when hardcore update was released, the update was a let down, and the game didn't feel the same, though i just recently came back to the game and i am trying to get back into it again, i think its definitely grown on me and gotten better since then

[@smolcate]

The John "rework" is probably the saddest thing that i have seen not only it was my favourite tower it was a very useful tower. Rest in peace John tower.

[@rowenamirasol3792]

Militant is still useful (especially for new players who cant beat molten)

[@pol742]

​@@rowenamirasol3792 its only good for begineers, high lvl players dont have a use for it

[@rowenamirasol3792]

@@pol742 violent night:

[@pol742]

@@rowenamirasol3792 theres still btr alternatives

[@rowenamirasol3792]

@@pol742 it was used in the most popular strat, POPULAR

[@sol14462]

So as someone that started playing at the beginning and getting archer and lazy couch, I’ve always hated hardcore so much that I didn’t grind for the accel, here I am level 142 and only NOW start grinding for the accel and I hate it, i just wish paradoxum had just a little bit more time to fix the event

[@lilsquiddle1964]

I. Hate. EVENT TOWERS. The revamp was COMPLETE garbage. The event was broken, we got NOTHING for attending the event, and I lost my dear dear dear sentry...

[@zsixgaming6505]

based off tower battles you mean bro 0:02

[@fr0stfr3dd75]

Bros late

[@Pedro-pz7wi]

bro omega late bloons got created in 2007

[@Pedro-pz7wi]

tower battle got created in 2017

[@epicdoge7925]

It'd be cool to see the best TDS update ever, honestly, I'd say it was egg hunt 2020, considering that was when I started the game. I just remembered playing gold mode a lot, owning and using the John tower, and just generally enjoying the game more, mostly because it was more fun for me cause I was new.

[@imamonkeyfrfr]

Barely started at egg hunt 2020, oh brotha you have missed out on a lot

[@epicdoge7925]

@@imamonkeyfrfr yeah... but still kinda early, considering where we are now

[@imamonkeyfrfr]

@@epicdoge7925 true, you still missed out on hella good stuff

[@epicdoge7925]

@@imamonkeyfrfr yeah, I know, I wish I could've gotten the glad the OG way but I bought it, I wouldn't consider it p2w tho cuz I don't use it lol

[@imamonkeyfrfr]

@EpicPoggersDoge so I started playing like 2 days before the first ever event right and I just don't have a single event tower bruh, only elf camp but literally none I only have pvp wins and skins from 2019 to prove I'm OG

[@Corb.D1]

I play on mobile and I can’t scroll all the way down to see advanced towers this happed like a month or more ago

[@NeoETM]

been here since 4k still lit🔥

[@liquid3676]

Man I was there when the game broke it self I’m starting to lose memory of it but the only thing I remember joining back was seeing people fall into the void and asking for help to get to level 50 (I think I was level 47 or 48 at that time)

[@yummyummfajiats]

I love your videos bro your editing is awesome i subbed and watch your every vid keep going!

[@Seannosaurus]

i started playing in august 2019, and left after the live event when hardcore update was released, i just recently came back to the game, and its grown on me

[@sausagesaregoodforhealth9298]

I did get into the old hardcore portal, wasnt much in there other then a long hallway and at the end of it was nothing. But a sign saying "???"

[@lacyhotel]

hardcore mode beta wasn't region lock it because people equip the emote on the lobby then teleport into hardcore lobby that why people can't join hardcore beta

[@Ihaveanewchannelstopwatching]

I waited 2 hours for the live event, just to accidentally go into a elevator and glitch out the map

[@martincz5549]

what's the update now, it's useless, I play on mobile and there are sams bugs, I can't take exclusive towers and almost even harcore towers. for me the ubdate is a bad idea to make a new ui.

[@bluepuffball4380]

Hey propellars what do you think about the current issue with bot grinders (yes theres bots what grinds coins and gems)

[@mechastrikecommander]

i remember a glitch which allowed you to run ontop of the old map also when i used it to watch the event from high up i didn't get the badge

[@ambushed4532]

so basically it’s the community’s fault cause they rushed the devs therefore having less time to fix bugs

[@rowenamirasol3792]

Facts