After many times being asked, we finally put a quick stickering video together. #stckering #roughcut #woodmizer Iron & Oak T-shirts www.etsy.com/l...
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@patrickshull4462 Жыл бұрын
I don't often criticize others work, but because this is more of an educational video I'd like to chime in. I really like your platforms but you should have made them at least 16" longer than the average board you planned to stack. That way you would always be able to have your first and last sticker within an inch of the end of your board. 70% of end checks will stop at the first sticker. And the micro splitting starts as soon as the board is milled so even though it will only be in the pile for a few weeks, the damage will be done. The second problem I noticed were the tarps used to cover the stacks. Obviously tarps are cheaper than tin roofing but only if the final product comes out the same. Having the tarp come all the way down the sides of the pile is trapping the moisture inside the "tent". Air needs to flow through the pile to remove moisture. Even with the ends open, the air is restricted because of the alignment of the stickers. Whatever the covering material used, it should only cover the top of the pile or a small overhang to shed water. Lastly is a problem many encounter, myself included. For lack of open space, being forced to stack lumber in less then ideal locations. When customers ask me the best location to dry lumber I usually tell them, "the middle of your front yard". Surprise, surprise, most don't really want a stack of lumber as the focal point of their yard. So we often end up putting stacks out back in the woods. Under the tree canopy where you get little sun and less wind. It's like trying to dry laundry in a sauna. But we don't live in a perfect world so we make do with what we have. Please don't take offence at my trespassing on your tutorial. As I always tell people at the end of a job, " you've just worked your butt off, then paid me a sizable chunk of change to cut your lumber. You should now take steps to protect that investment and do everything you can to ensure you end up with the most high quality dried lumber you can". Thank you for your patience and be safe, Patrick
@arlenegalster11263 жыл бұрын
Have yo u considered a kiln? At least for your prime cuts.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Yes we have, but space is our biggest enemy right now. We are researching though.
@JoesFirewoodVideosII3 жыл бұрын
Who are your customers? Individuals or corporations? Good looking wood BTW. Those pallets would work great for drying firewood
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Individuals, but we have been approached by some larger buyers. Hoping to land a few of those.
@Miriam-qo4hg Жыл бұрын
Deb you look soon much like your mom in this video.
@Back40Firewood3 жыл бұрын
That is one thing I didn't really consider or think about after the 1st few times milling, just how many stickers you need!! LOL After I started making my 1st pile of lumber I was in complete 'Sticker Shock'!! Ha! 😆👍🍻
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
We were in the same boat. Had a blast milling, then realized we had to take care of the product. That changed everything.
@shofarsogood7504 Жыл бұрын
Is it left uncovered? If so why doesn’t the rain just constantly ruin the progress?
@IronOakSawmill Жыл бұрын
Not at all. We create a tent over the stack that allows airflow, but keeps the rain off. We can dry down to approx 10% moisture content. Plenty of great projects have been created using our lumber and slabs
@donaldtrabeaux52353 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for sharing, need t-shirt with Deb the boss
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
We may have to do that. Deb "The Boss" Chuck "The Sawyer"
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Donald I really appreciate that
@karencary33123 жыл бұрын
You do quality work in everything you do, no matter how big or small. It shows. God bless.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Karen. We just want to make sure we have the best lumber and slabs, we can possible produce. Hopefully make a few woodworkers plans come to life.
@dansSawfish56043 жыл бұрын
Nice stack job. Stacking right makes good lumber.
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
Yes it does Dan for sure
@jasonracette61433 жыл бұрын
Great videos. If I may suggest, the closer the sticker is to the end of the board the less chance of checking. If a board is prone to checking, the weight of the boards above will stop the checking at the sticker. Keep up the great work!
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Helpo Jason. We agree, but these are only temporarily stacked here. They will be picked up in a couple weeks. We also seal all of our logs with anchor seal 2, to prevent checking. Thank you for checking out the channel. Hope you stop by in the comments more often.
@Grizzlife11 ай бұрын
Good video. When you get it all stacked do you weight down the top layer? I’ve had issues of top boards cupping.
@richewing92284 ай бұрын
Do you put a strap around your stack? I am just getting started. Thanks.
@JayGraham-h9o9 ай бұрын
How long before you can use the 2x12 for interior use
@johntillotson42545 ай бұрын
Funny about loading and how you know weight
@alabamamanus13 жыл бұрын
I doubt these guys are able able to do this because of the sheer volume of lumber and slabs but I will go to Harbor Freight and strap my stuff down to limit warping and cupping. Traditionally you count on the stacks weight to limit cupping but regardless of the weight its still going to cup, hence the nylon straps. You don't have to go all Arnold Schwarzenegger but get it somewhat tight.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
We use ratchet straps once we have a full pallet. This one would probably get 5 straps around it.
@TimberManiac87913 жыл бұрын
a word of advice , your stickers are to far from the ends of the boards , they need to be closer . ends of boards will split and check up to sticker . sticker is 4-5 inches from end it will only split 4-5 inches.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
All of our logs are sealed when they are harvested. Checking is minimal. I'm not a fan of how far they are from the edge either, but my concern is the boards sagging over time. It hasn't happened just yet with other stacks, so maybe my concern is for nothing. Time will tell.
@marknunya30353 жыл бұрын
Nice too see you both back and I see you are taking JENGA to new level 😆😂😆. Jk. That's some good looking poplar and very concise video of how to properly stack for drying. As always good luck and God Bless.
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
Thank You Mark. And take care and God bless you too
@jbjbuild3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! What are you using to prop up the middle under the tarps. I've used cinder blocks, but they tend to tear through the tarp eventually. just wondering if you do anything different.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
We place a 6x6 or cinder block at each end of the stack, then put a long 4x4 running from one block to the other. Like the ridge beam of a roof. This keep the tarp from holding water, and keeps it loose to allow air flow.
@johncollins5003 жыл бұрын
Good morning Chuck & Deb. Very informative!!! Thanks for sharing.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Hello John. Thank you. It's always good to hear from you.
@ronjon40103 жыл бұрын
Great drone video of the haying at the end !
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
That is probably ly their 3rd cutting this season. I think they'll be out for one or 2 more.
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
Thank You Ron. Chuck's idea for sure. Take Care
@dannydrake73483 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, always glad to learn, I’m still open for great ideas, also what type mics do you use they are clear and help out so much, I posted some more videos on KZbin , Creations by Drake, take a look at us sawing walnut
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
We will definitely check it out Danny. And thanks for the comment
@kendalgee5808 Жыл бұрын
Good god. You mean to tell me I can't just go to Home Depot, buy wood, and use it the next day? 🙆♂🤦♂
@josephschreiber97623 жыл бұрын
How do you sell your lumber? Same customers or do you advertise? Joe Schreiber
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
We advertise on FB marketplace, but word of mouth is doing just fine.
@barryirby86093 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I got a lot of walnut and cherry sawed and needed lots of stickers. Went to Lowes and bought a big stack of reject lumber they had outside on clearance. Spent days at my tablesaw ripping it down to stickers. Out of sheer boredom I calculated the length and figured I sawed a mile. Yep, a mile of stickers. I just got a new stash of maple and used them again. Your piles are neater than mine. I use similar pallets. Get them from an HVAC company.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Hello Barry. You did it the right way, by using dry stickers. We did the same when we first started milling. Lots of hours at the table saw paid off. We now stay one step ahead, and mill our own and have them dry before use. We couldn't find any big or strong pallets around here, so of course, we made our own.
@katelutterodt24793 жыл бұрын
Thanks, always learning from your channel, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kate. I'm so glad we're helping you out with learning from the channel. Take Care
@barrywest37583 жыл бұрын
Look at that grouping, excellent work guys! Really enjoyed 👍👍
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Barry.
@joelnickerson67393 жыл бұрын
Now that brings back many memories when I worked at a saw mill helping our inspector grade lumber and stickering lumber. We had to do that to get it ready to put in the kiln. Good video with some good information. Take care Chuck and Deb. Going to have to get a t shirt.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a good time at the mill. Wish we had a kiln here. One step at a time I guess. Feel free to click on the link for a shirt. They are waiting a ready to make you one.
@johnpierce12513 жыл бұрын
As usual another great video love the how we do it vids keep up the great work and stay safe my friends
@debfromthemill69453 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. We hope this helps everyone with stacking. Take Care
@nicksnextproject5352 жыл бұрын
Practical system. Subscribed.
@IronOakSawmill2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick. Hope to see you in the comments often.
@markdiulio22453 жыл бұрын
Very time consuming but end result is worth it
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
This type of work always pays off. Thank you Mark
@ajpsawmill43143 жыл бұрын
When we stack 6' or 8' lumber, we stagger our rows in the pile. With good spacing. That way we don't have to use stickers. Only down side is the width is the same as the length
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
You'll have to send some pics of that type of stacking.
@jamesrussell68702 жыл бұрын
No stickers??? What??
@stevemilam4663 жыл бұрын
Nice job! So inspirational.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. We hope folks can learn from our videos like this, and it makes their lumber drying a bit easier.
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill68493 жыл бұрын
Love the attention to detail! 👍
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It makes a difference. We just want make the highest quality lumber we can.
@exotictones10543 жыл бұрын
Good info guys.ty
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
We always hope someone learns from these videos, and makes their life easier.
@byronc89863 жыл бұрын
Great job as always.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Byron. We are glad you liked it.
@randywatts755411 ай бұрын
...beautiful Sir and Ma'am...
@Miriam-qo4hg Жыл бұрын
Nice job!!
@IronOakSawmill Жыл бұрын
Thank you Miriam :)
@jerrylittle89223 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jerry.
@johntillotson42545 ай бұрын
Thx for sharing ❤
@johntillotson42545 ай бұрын
Great instructions
@Cattelinoable3 жыл бұрын
What species do you use for stickers? What species do you avoid for stickers?
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Poplar has always worked well, but we have sawn black walnut, ash, and red oak. They all work well, as long as they are dry, but will stick with poplar now. I've heard there can be issues with highly acidic woods.
@stanleyclark77583 жыл бұрын
Great ‘How to’ video. Nice to see you once again Chuck & Deb. Get those T shirts out the airing cupboard guys. Take care and stay safe! Stan
@IronOakSawmill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stan. It's good to be making videos again. Lots going on here, and getting caught up on projects around the mill.