Pros and Cons of Surfans F20 HiFi MP3 Player High Resolution Audio Music Player,

Link to Amazon 256 memory card: amzn.to/3gTQe0D
Link to Surfans F20 HiFi MP3 Player: amzn.to/3t1ruZi

[@MalcolmJames-sg3zg]

Its nice to see a youtuber answering people's questions, Not like some of the youtubers who cant be bothered, Thats why i always like your channel THANKS

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Thank You very much!

[@jeffro5032]

I've had my Surfans F20 going on 4 years and I love it. I switched to a 256GB card as well. I hooked up a 3.5mm to RCA plug to my home stereo , and it sounds incredible. The only issue I have had is the blue tooth. It does not like connecting to things for some reason. BUT.....like you said in the video , best way to pair it is just connect with a cord.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I haven't had blu tooth issues but I have heard some people do, perhaps its the version on the player vs headphones. Yes cord is best :D thanks for watching.

[@beaupeep]

Great information, thank you! I just bought one of these (lost my old Shuffle!), still waiting for it to arrive. .... I look forward to viewing more of your videos!

[@agua9362]

was is worth it ?

[@Selrisitai]

How'd you like it? I know that with its tactile controls, limited buttons and small screen it's likely to be a nightmare for a modern consumer who doesn't know what he's getting himself into.

[@DaveDzRochNY]

Not the firmware... the PC driver. The driver is available on the Surfans site. I'm expecting the player to arrive in the next few days as a just-in-case replacement for circa 2005 iPod 5th gen which has been showing sporadic problems.

[@davidmurray9193]

After getting one to Bluetooth to my Ruroc motorcycle helmet, is the Bluetooth strong enough to stay on or does it break up

[@davidharris6974]

How about making a video that shows how to put music podcasts and books on the player for dummies.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Good suggestion I may

[@expressdi202]

Hello ! Can we adjust the depth of the bass ? I listen to G-Funk / Gangsta / Dirty South where bass-line is very important. I got a Sony Walkman NWZ-B187 and loved it for its "Bass boost" option ! Now it's broken (after 10 years of use) and I am looking for a great MP3 player with whom I will greatly enjoy all my G-funk albums with solid bass-lines and synths. Also, I don't really understand the menu of the equalizer... it says 1K, 2K, etc... what does that mean ?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Yes you can!

[@cymtk]

bro breathe and edit

[@brad2138]

This man comes with 4x speed playback

[@rudymahdeo8823]

Hi. Can the Surfans play only one track and stop. And can the screen be lit for the entire song ?

[@fourtwentysixtynine6968]

Hi there thanks for the review, I'm considering buying one but my only concern is the quality of the buttons, after more of a year of use do you notice a difference? Do you think that they are durable? I find myself constantly skipping lots of songs sometimes and I wouldn't want to wear them too fast.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I may do a follow up video on this subject. The buttons new always felt a bit cheap compared to the metal scroll wheel but still do a great job - no issues. I should add that the wheel although not 100% perfect is AMAZING. Really one of if not the best wheel. I love the textured feel of it. OH and the buttons despite being plastic feel much better than the newer Sony NW-A306. On the sony the bottons are soooo tight its hard to press and leaves you questioning if you hit it.

[@fourtwentysixtynine6968]

@@TUXXREVIEWS I see, thanks for the answer I've just discovered these devices (DAP) and I'm doing my research before buying one, great review keep the good work 👍

[@jgonzalezj]

The problem with included SD it's not only the tiny space, it is the poor quality. In my case have freezing and the impossibility of rescue the archives on it. I replace it with a new one Samsung Evo 64gb and the problems gone. BTW in the website of Surfans exists a new update, and it's very simple to apply.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I like this card amzn.to/3gTQe0D I fill it with my music files (flac) and move from player to player

[@stewartlegg2269]

Kioxia are actually toshiba..who actually invented the sd card... good quality :)

[@screwface6552]

Thanks been looking for a good reasonably priced replacement for my old school 160gb wheel ipod that got stolen .

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I had one of those. YES this is a good replacement.

[@screwface6552]

@@TUXXREVIEWS just got one a few days ago still figuring it out but I like it alot sounds good easy to use with big collection but didnt realize it will only "hold" 15000 songs even though the memory card has more than that on there. Do you know how that works does it always only access the same 15k songs or if I load more will it randomly access a different set of song each time.?

[@IanDeQuadros]

Hi there! My wife just got one of these, looks like a nice little offline player. Does anyone know if it's possible to list by album artist rather than just artist in category view though? It would be really useful for compilations and albums with a lot of "featuring..." Tracks.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

It depends, in my case each artist is in a folder and in the artist folder there is folders for each album. This is how I set up all my music memory cards. Then I use a free program Mp3tag (google it and you can download free) and I tag in various ways.

[@mana_beast_beats1114]

@@TUXXREVIEWS --- Tag & Rename.

[@Selrisitai]

What's the difference between "list by album artist" and "artist in category view"?

[@mana_beast_beats1114]

@@Selrisitai --- Well let's say you have a rap album like Book Of Ryan, which has Caterpillar on it. Both Eminem and Royce are on that track. Spotify puts both artists in the artist field. But that's ROYCE's album, so only his name should be in the artist field and the title should be "Caterpillar (feat. Eminem)"

[@Gentle_Zephyr]

@@TUXXREVIEWS HI, can it play specific folders with music?

[@martincolleu2364]

Hi, thanks a lor for the vido! Does it have a "locked" buton so it doesn't turn on or off everytime? :)

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Not that I know of

[@Junkboy888]

Kool another device to place next to my Zune, Sangsung mini disc player and Diamond Rio lol

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

HD audio device.

[@wraithconscience]

Hi, great question about using a new card, but did you actually test the new card?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

As in placing a new card with music into the F20 or taking a included (free pack in) smaller card and put into a difference device?

[@adambrotherston]

Hi there, is there a limit as to how many playlists this player can hold? Also, is it a simple drag and drop system to put playlists onto the player from a computer? I am looking to change from ipod to mp3 player but cant seem to find one that allows for many playlists to be created - i do not want to only be allowed to organise by artist or album as i have many compilations i would like to carry across. Thank you in advance

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

This may help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGW2kmqZnZJqo6s I never encountered a limit as how may playlists you can have. At some point (perhaps 50, 100, 500, 1000?) there may be a limit but again I've never hit it.

[@joshchacko7729]

Would having a DAP matter as much compared to a phone if one has an external DAC/AMP?

[@shadeymcbones6707]

its a little less clunky and playing hifi music still drains the battery of your phone a lot. Also no-one to interrupt your music.

[@123probando]

Is it better than an ipod classic?

[@HairMetalChris]

What do you think is the loudest out there? I use my "Shure 535" inear monitors so I'm not playing when I say that I'm looking for the loudest without distortion out there. Thank's

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Loudest headset or output of a playback device? A headphone amplifier will help both causes.

[@HairMetalChris]

@TUXX REVIEWS MP3 player. Never knew headphone amps were a thing. Now I'm intrigued with both lol

[@Selrisitai]

This probably isn't the loudest; that said, it goes up to 100 and I have not yet had reason to go up to 70, and as a listener of heavy metal I like my music loud. Incidentally, I'm using a pair of Shure SE215s! How are the 535s?

[@tikhinskaya]

512 gb flash reading?

[@wanderingbiku451]

Just thinking of getting one of these bad boys as replacement for a rockboxed sansa clip. Still no glitches after a year?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Still going strong. I have many mp3 player / HD audio players but I keep coming back to this one. The metal Wheel, perfect size wins me over. Well worth every penny!

[@wanderingbiku451]

@@TUXXREVIEWS Just one more question. When you tried out the Samsung memory card, how was it formatted? ExFat, Fat32 or....

[@juliomotte9985]

I man: i connect my airpods pro 2 and 3 and the sounds is very low, when i connect conventional headphones the soiunds is loud but not with airpods, do you know something about it?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I would suggest buying the Surfans IEM. Its a huge value at $60 and tuned for the Surfans F20. I love these IEM on my Sony NW-A306 and other devices.

[@lifeisgreat8]

hi there! - Can you tell me if there is an option to turn OFF bluetooth? - How long is the battery life with continuous use? - Are you still happy with this device or would you recommend another one by now? : - ) Thanks!!

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Hi. I will make a follow up on this player soon. I'm still happy with it but there is some opportunities for it too. I change my before it runs out but my other player does seem to last longer.

[@lifeisgreat8]

@@TUXXREVIEWS ok nice! for me the most important is the ability to turn off the bluetooth signal. Do you know if it is possible?

[@xray323]

I own one and you can turn off the bluetooth feature.

[@Selrisitai]

@@lifeisgreat8 Yes, you can turn off and on the bluetooth from the system settings menu.

[@andrzejsochon1169]

Question: what happens when the last track in the selected folder has finished - will there be a stop or a continuation, I mean will it automatically start playing tracks from the next folder? I don't want to create a playlist.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

So I just ran a quick test without altering the setting I previously had on the F20. I played a song from a folder with one song in it and when the one song ended it moved to next folder. Continuing to play music seamlessly. I will have an additional video later this week about playlists. I know you dont want a playlist but just a fyi. Also you could just put all the music in one folder (despite player) to avoid it stopping at the end of a folder -- little work around.

[@andrzejsochon1169]

@@TUXXREVIEWS Thank you very much!

[@jesse-dg8yx]

Is he using a weed grow light as a video light? Video lights usually have diffusion

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

nooooo I dont! I have videos of my led lighting for recording you tube. see videos

[@lucalone]

Does this play. dsf files and that with gapless playback? You know when there are 2 songs gapless connected.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

The F20 (link amzn.to/4cBHYO1 ) doesnt say but the new F28 does (Link amzn.to/3vyBZJa )

[@nebulous962]

Does the custom eq work? I read some reviews that say it doesnt work. :)

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

it does work! I may make a video on it later

[@raminchamani4580]

It works but dont work in dsd files

[@xray323]

The eq works great it's the best sounding device if the eq is set right 7 band I believe.

[@Helvis23]

Can you drag and drop tunes or playlists directly from Itunes on the computer?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

When the mp3 player is plugged in the computer will see it as a hard drive, then just drag and drop music files. easy :D

[@Helvis23]

@@TUXXREVIEWS Thanks so much

[@RhythmAddictedState]

Is your 256GB Evo card still working fine with the Surfans? Have you experienced any lagging while using it?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

It still works great. I will say that smaller cards can sometimes search slightly faster, its something to consider.... the emount of desiered storage and size.

[@RhythmAddictedState]

@@TUXXREVIEWS Thank you!

[@hectorortega9131]

Man! Almost everybody have complaints about this device, I wanted to buy one but I see all this videos with glitches or problems, can someone recommend me a different brand?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I never had any issues with this unit and Ive been using it for months? (see original video release date). I have videos on several other MP3 players

[@synapticflow]

Did it come with a screen protector?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

mine didnt but I believe some bundles may

[@monrow1961]

Hey brother, is it possible to make playlists with this thing?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I have a video on this topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGW2kmqZnZJqo6s

[@TechieWurld]

How is the Bluetooth? I just got one and the range on mine is like maybe a foot.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I havent tested the range but it does work great from your pocket to ear or in the car front seats to stereo in dash.

[@TechieWurld]

@TUXX REVIEWS I may have a faulty device. All of my Bluetooth devices are 5.0 and this player only 4.0.

[@MrDirtbag82]

I have a ipod classic 6.5 gen I modded it to a micro SD up to a 1tb I love it but im constantly replacing the ribbon cable every 6 or so months can you expand the memory on this device to up to 1tb or higher because my ipod is maxed out at 1tb

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Ipods can't play music at this high definition..... good sure but....not the same.

[@MrDirtbag82]

@@TUXXREVIEWS that I know thats why I was wondering if this device can go up to a 1tb or does it cap out

[@Selrisitai]

@@MrDirtbag82 A lot of people are saying that despite being able to hold a 256GB card, it has a hard limit of 15,000 songs that it will recognize, so be advised.

[@johnmastroligulano7401]

All of the video on youtube about this product does not show the pairing of this device to bluetooth headphones.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

It can pair. I will make a video on it later, TY for suggestion

[@terrypartipilo66]

Had no problems pairing with my JBL headphones

[@MrChangeordie]

I mean my android does the job for music but the shuffle option is a joke, ipod had it mastered...it 1 shuffle songs from 1 all the way up until it played the entire library... but my phone shuffle option sucks it replays songs I already heard more than a few times

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Ipod can suffle songs but so can ZUNE! This player is about HD music, Ipod cant play at this level of quality. Ipod is good sure but its not a HD audio player

[@MrChangeordie]

@@TUXXREVIEWS Zune!!! I forgot all about those 😆... wow I'm gonna look into Zune, I had 1 years ago, I just want a true shuffle for my music, because I think ipod showed how many songs were left to shuffle, but the shuffle options to day just shuffle songs without eliminating each song played .

[@silent_stalker3687]

I have never seen anyone use this with a computer I bought this because I thought I could make a folder and have custom stuff playing or something…

[@Helvis23]

So, before i buy this, I will be able to download my Itunes music to this player?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

It plays mp3s HIGHER QUALITY than itunes but if you want to slum it and listen to music you buy on itunes and transfer to player via usb cord or flash drive sure. But honestly I wouldn't limit yourself to itunes ... better quality music files out there.

[@Helvis23]

@@TUXXREVIEWS Thanks again. Sorry to be ignorant but where would I sources these "better quality music files"?

[@armanduco]

It works with batteries, or with a charging cable

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

either but if charging and using I would suggest atleast 20% power

[@raminchamani4580]

Does it have a bug in play/pause botton? For me, it has a slope to the right ... And not good comfortable. One another thing is that brightness in 50% it goes to shake brightness...this is the other bug

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I may do a follow up to show some of the questions, mine feels comfortable / buttons straight. Looking into this on other players. Did you buy new on amazon on my link?

[@raminchamani4580]

@@TUXXREVIEWS no,i bought from another shop,but with your experience s and explanation s .. All the buttons straight,but the play/pause button a little has slope to the right side,i called the Company's warranty,and answer me thats for comfortable using and not a bug... and now i see the bug in 50% brightness,i'll be thank you to test and answer those

[@bowieramone4523]

How do you shuffle the songs on my playlist !!!!

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKYiJmfgN2YnLs

[@jackbazyl5535]

does it play the songs alphabetically or by number?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

In depth video on song playing options video coming

[@g.eflint93]

not a big deal but wonder if it will work with airpods?.if it doesn't that's Ok. I have some good headphones

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

can you pair your apple airpods on other devices?

[@g.eflint93]

@@TUXXREVIEWS They pair most of the time but I was just curious. I ordered one of these players but I have wired headphones as well so I should be OK. Thanx for the quick response.

[@k9trucking]

Why cant I play my bluetooth and adjust the EQ on the fly when I back out and go to EQ the bluetooth stops why

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

If you go into menu and settings and EQ you should be able to set it with music playing ... no?

[@pauls6897]

I do like this player. One drawback is it will not pair with a Sony bluetooth speaker I have.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Pairs with all my blu tooth devices - home and car

[@josefmiljanic9168]

dos this mp3 player have fm radio??

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

no but this one does see HERE ON AMAZON: amzn.to/37nH4YM

[@teemotibi7598]

Does it play radio?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

No radio

[@kaizokureeves]

Sounds like you may not know what you're doing exactly for encoding if you filled up a 32gb with 64 cds. But whatever helps you plug the memory card ;)

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Its all non scripted Its possible I said the wrong amount - can you give me a time stamp? I will say a HD Audio flac file takes up allot more space than a non flac file. As an example Muse 2nd Law Cd rip is typically 102 MB, in flac its 360 mb and can even go up to 1.07 GB in a high quality vinyl flac rip. So if your filling your 32gb memory card 1 gig rips thats 32 cds or if you go down in quality yes you could get 64 cds on one 32 gig memory card. Its all about the size of files. Hope this helps. PS. I would suggest using the highest quality files you can get (or make).

[@hitmanxv3141]

I just returned mine today. Kept freezing up on me while I was jogging ☹

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Mine is still working great but I do have a new review coming up for a Astell&Kern player next week. Few questions on your F20. 1. was it new or used? 2. was it the original memory card in it or did you upgrade? 3. was the freezing due to movement (like in sync with movements) ?

[@hitmanxv3141]

@@TUXXREVIEWS i bought a new one and left the original memory card in it. No I didn't upgrade anything either. So it could've been glitching with the movements. Ended up getting a sony nw-a55 walkman and I love it!

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

@@hitmanxv3141 😎

[@shreyash6495]

@@TUXXREVIEWS hey do you still have the device, would you be willing to sell the device. Cause In my country the are selling it at almost 330 dollars. And I can't afford that much hence going for used model.

[@megawattti]

it damages very quickly! full of scratches now

[@Vazaqin]

i hate how when i just want to add a few albums to it, and i unplug it, it has to scan the ENTIRE library..that gets under my skin

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

You can drag and drop as many or as few files you want. Theres no mandatory scanning or adding.

[@Vazaqin]

@@TUXXREVIEWS every time I unplug it from my computer it scans every single file..even if I don't add anything or just 1 thing

[@m2thay]

appreciate the video, but please tune down your voice, the mids in your voice in EQ. it's absolutely killing me. way too loud.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I use the Mic on my Sony 4K camera. Ty for feedback all the same.

[@shiyanwijesekera4867]

I’m really confused, weren’t these obsolete like 20 years ago? What am I missing here?

[@darraghkinahan9952]

Better quality sound if your into music

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Agreed and 2nd that. Cell phones can play mp3s but not to the same quality.

[@dorsetengineering]

If you want usb mass storage support and a portable method for listening to your digital music collection, then you need a portable music player.

[@philpots3216]

All you have to do is copy file from 1 card to the other,,,,,, such a stressful choir 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

True. I like this card amzn.to/3gTQe0D

[@diemman70]

For the OS to be on the SD card instead of ROM would be the dumbest configuration for a portable device.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Agreed

[@reneethomas719]

Only see Chinese, how do we get to English?

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Under settings there is language options, I make make a video on this later - side note new MP3 player video next week. Could be best MP3 player of 2023!

[@Voodoo_Robot]

I never understood why these are made when there is spotify or youtube.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Huge diffrence in sound quality. Think vhs vs blu-ray

[@Neuromantic_86]

Bluetooth is always a pain in the ass for me, cords all the way on anything.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Cords are better for sound.

[@rafael55]

The instructions that come with this are terrible.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Was there a certain question? Perhaps I can help.

[@skyjuiceification]

@@TUXXREVIEWS I'm having a firmware issue and am at my wit's end!

[@donnelmoss757]

Man that screen resolution sucks

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I think its crisp but some of the text small. Check out my video for the newer Surfans F35 with a bigger screen. I still love this unit small screen and all. Its a great form factor.

[@donnelmoss757]

@@TUXXREVIEWS okay because it seems like inside your car during the daytime the screen would be hard to see being that You had to dim the lights to see it.

[@luc1ferblack]

So no pros and cons then. Didnt even mention the audio quality a rather pointless video

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I will try to talk in more detail about the audio quality in future videos but I did say positive words about it (PRO). As far as you saying no pros or cons .... perhaps you didnt really watch the video - Pros and cons PRO 0:16 0:17 0:18 0:19 5:48 6:32 CONS 0:26 1:05 Possible con 2:12 6:05

[@God-yb2cg]

Well, besides the fact that "High Definition" audio is a scam and the human ear can't past 20kHz (at peak health performance), DAMN that thing is SEXY!

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

I swear I can hear a difference, but it really depends on the quality of the source audio. Personally for streaming services Tital sounds great as far as audio files I lean towards flac

[@gurutimes2]

all looks nothing else.

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Great looks, great function ability, Great sound and if you match with the Surfans in ear monitors mindblowing! ALL THIS AND A H-U-G--E VALUE! WIN WIN WIN

[@bossmanfucktheworld]

Sold!

[@TUXXREVIEWS]

Excellent! Happy listening!