PROS & CONS of Living in Las Cruces, New Mexico

[@progkast]

Pro #1 is the food. The best Mexican (NEW Mexican actually, NM Mex is a category all it's own) food in the US is in NM. And the best Mexican food in NM is in Las Cruces! Your #2, abundance of sunshine is not a positive. The only places hotter are in AZ. However, due to the location of the ozone "hole" in the atmosphere, NM has harsher sun that causes more damage than it does in AZ (99% of my fam lives in AZ, so I know first hand). Your #3 (My #2) of Outdoor activities is true. Lots of hiking, bike riding. Skiing however, uh, no. Cloudcroft rarely opens due to lack of snow, and is a very small area. Ruidoso is jam packed with Texans, most of which don't know how to ski and it just makes for a messy mountain with people all over the ground. NOT a good place for anyone but the absolute beginner! YOur #4, also true. Large artist community, plenty of music and the infamous Farmer's and Crafts market downtown once or twice a week. "Drive to El Paso is incredibly scenic"? Seriously? NOT. Aerospace industry here, yes. Film industry? Absolutely. But you mostly list Albuq facilities and productions and not the ones actually filmed HERE. Capitain Fantastic, The Mule, At least 2 Transformers movies filmed here and or White Sands, Due Date, and older films such as Hang 'Em High, Stagecoach, The Missing, All the Pretty Horses... Nor the production studios here, the Las Cruces Film Festival, or the Las Cruces Film group "Film Las Cruces"... or the plans to build a multi-million dollar soundstage. The #1 con for LC is the lack of quality medical care. There are not many specialists here, and most drs only stay here a couple of years and leave. It is horrible for retirees and older folks that are in more need of medical care. Your #1 Con, the bus system is sort of correct, but for the wrong reasons. Buses in any city I've ever lived in work on a schedule. They have to, to be reliable. I don't see how being on a schedule is a con. The buses serve much more of the city than they used to if you live IN the city proper. They do not go out to the rich areas in the far West, or the Far East. The buses, however, ARE 100% FREE. There are no fees, and have not been in 4 years. #2 of your cons, not much nightlife, is true, however, that's mostly due to the lack of young people/college age and around there, hitting it in Las Cruces. Most kiddies go down to El Paso and the places in town are virtually empty from 10 on, causing them to have to shut their doors at that time or earlier. As for the lack of job opportunities this is true for specialized carriers in certain areas. Aerospace jobs are not something you get into once you move here. It's a specialized thing that people transfer here FOR. Film industry jobs are popping up and are quite abundant around the state. Other gov. jobs are here. Also City and State. Most youngish people work in the food or service industries. Jobs in the medical field are abundant. We have three full service Hospitals (one E tier 3 and one tier 4). Food trucks are a hot thing here. Many, many, individual entrepreneurs abide here. There are many many opportunities for creative and ambitious individuals wanting to start their own business. Not to mention the burgeoning cannabis industry with many connoiseurs from El Paso taking the opportunity of having LC so close nearby. Also, Amazon has a warehouse S of LC. If you are a computer programmer or IT specialist, your only hopes are in working in another industry that requires your help. Manufacturing is not here. Airlines. Not here. It's long, but LC is something I feel passionate about. Both pros and cons. But dude, having said all that, your music is WAY too high, and your vocal audio is WAY too low. ✌

[@MrDONTEATUS]

I love living in Las Cruces!

[@bofa2771]

Ayyyy me tooo

[@intastro5473]

Same

[@davidwild1155]

I miss it in hoping to move back someday

[@PremiumPappy]

What do you like the most about it? Is it Senior friendly?

[@RJohnson-w8u]

LC has a great laid back culture. Very happy to call this place home.

[@brock8993]

As a Canadian, i lived there in 1998 for a year when I was in grade 6. I loved it and was my favorite place to live out of a few canadian cities and Deming NM for another year. Great people, beautiful landscape and fantastic weather

[@michaelfleming40]

I have lived here in Las Cruces for over 30 years. I don't see myself moving anytime soon. 😊❤

[@FeR-kt1jt]

Im from Los Ángeles but i like Las Cruces a lot . The Organ Mountains in the distance is a beautiful landscape

[@tammymartin5743]

Coming to visit in April and hoping to love it so we can relocate there. LC has been stuck in my brain for over a year. I just know it’s my destiny!

[@rhyanaraiza]

Hi Tammy! Awesome! Las Cruces would love to have you. If you're interested in checking out any homes while you're here or if you just want someone to show you around. Let us know! We would love to help.

[@spikegaming2571]

Hello Tammy, I currently live in Las Cruces and in April we call it the windy season. I hope its nice when you visit but if the dust is blowing its normal for this time of year, but it lasts usually 2 to 3 months until the monsoon starts.

[@beckybecky9643]

i live here.. can't wait to move out. I wanna move somewhere like Seattle. it's just too hot and not a lot of opportunities

[@cgruthless49erstalk58]

My best friend lives there he told me It's not much to do there but it's affordable to live there.

[@joyenglish1275]

I lived in Las Cruces for almost 50 years. The weather is perfect. The climate is great. Almost no natural problems like hurricanes earthquakes or tornadoes. However jobs are mostly those in the medical field or sciences. If you are a doctor or nurse getting a job is super easy. Perfect place to retire also. With a long warm season many with arthritis do not suffer pain as much. Little rain to ruin outdoor activities. As many people retire to Las Cruces not a lot of night life for those that want to live it up as many elderly people go to bed early. also has a high homeless population due to being close to the border as well as scarcity of jobs outside of medical careers. Also because of the closeness of the border there is also a large drug problem. Due to many of these factors (drugs and jobs mostly) crime is a problem as well. The school system is 50th in the nation. And Las Cruces is one of the bottom on the ladder. I moved out of Las Cruces because I did not want to get into the drug scene (selling or using) nor do I have the education to enter the medical field which is (as I stated before) one of the main positions available in the city. I miss the desert not the city.

[@35057]

I lived in Almagordo for 4 years but moved back east after 2007. Wife and I are considering moving to Cruces here in a few years. She works in medical and I plan to drive truck for a local company. I’m sure we should be able to find work but we will obviously only go if we have jobs signed in writing.

[@35057]

@@blacnovaco it’s nothing new to me. We changed our minds and she found another location that doesn’t hit her income so much.

[@JackMcVibez]

I’m moving here!! I’m excited nervous gonna work my ass off but exited!

[@ZacharyJohnson-kw9tg]

Excited to add you to our lovely city

[@christopherstimpson6540]

Lived in Las Cruces from 1984 to 1995. Loved it! Lots of BLM land to go camping and Jeep trails in the valley areas. You can hike to the top of the Organ mountains too. Found many Native rock carvings out there too. Great place to ride a horse or jog on the irrigation canals. Used to jog on them for many miles.

[@EverG-xh1mz]

Moved here a year ago I like it

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Honesty has a power, sir. GREAT video.

[@daviddomingo7768]

For those that say there are not enough jobs in Cruces , you can just drive 20-30 mins south to El Paso , more jobs , entertainment. If you want a slower laid-back feel , Cruces is the best . Sure you can find more jobs in Dallas , Phoenix...big cities like that but you will not find the low cost, laid-back lifestyle and ease of outdoor activity.

[@richarddebeer9081]

I was living in Central Texas when diagnosed with COPD. I was knowledgeable about Las Cruces because a friend lived here who I visited many times. I thought the dry desert air would be better for my COPD, which to a degree it was, but the 4000 foot altitude cancelled out that benefit. I still love living here, but sadly I plan to move back to Texas where I can breathe easier. I also will miss my perfect view of the Organs.

[@NewHomes101]

What an incredibly informative and well-crafted video! 🎥🌟 I can't thank you enough for sharing such valuable insights and knowledge. It's truly inspiring to see so many remarkable individuals choosing Las Cruces as their new home, bringing their unique perspectives and experiences. The growth and diversity in the community are simply remarkable! 🌎🏡 And let's not forget the stunning homes being built in Metro Verde and Sonoma Ranch, among other beautiful communities. The architectural beauty and attention to detail are absolutely mesmerizing. Kudos to you for shedding light on these exciting developments!

[@MrJodyh54]

Does not seem like there is much to do there from visits. However, if your an over-the-road trucker, its a good deal to live there and come home to it. Located in a valley and mild winters. I could live there as its open country and sunny much of the time (from my experience).

[@joez3706]

I moved here 3 hears ago from San Diego and like it but don't love it here. There is not a lot to do. People here are great and housing is reasonable. Most people I know who move here from populated areas love it here. Also, its a good place to retire.

[@progkast]

Disagree with retiring. I am retired and getting ready to move. The medical care is just not here. There's lots to do if you are an outdoors person. If not, then no, there isn't a lot to do. Quite frankly, I don't know what non-outdoors people do besides go to bars, so I really can't say what there is for indoor people.

[@joez3706]

@@progkast where would you like to move to?

[@lesliecoburn8277]

Don't move here if you have heath issues. The health care system here is horrible.

[@thomasmiller8214]

Can you elaborate on your remark please?

[@lesliecoburn8277]

@@thomasmiller8214 the health care system here is horrible. Lack of good doctors, it takes a while to get in to specialist, expensive.

[@joez3706]

Health care here is good for a small town but of course doesn't compare to a big city. El Paso is close enough to meet any needs you can't fill here

[@progkast]

@@thomasmiller8214 Lack of specialists. Lack of drs. We do have three hospitals, but do not have a level V trauma center. Trauma patients are almost always flown down to El Paso. For something like gastroenterology, for instance, there are three or four drs in town. Speech therapy, one (one just shut down). ENT, three. If you are a new patient for any dr, expect your first apt to be 4-6 months out (possibly more). If you are an established patient, for a specialist, it can still be as far out, but less commonly. For instance a gastro for an established paitent is often 5-9 months out.

[@maureen9115]

Most People go to MD Anderson in Houston for cancer issues. It’s a 12 hr drive. Or drive to El Paso Airport, pay $622.00 round trip. Take the Lift to the Center 30 minutes away. Get a hotel for 1-2 nights because there’s only 2 flights per day & you could miss your appointment because the plane doesn’t arrive before until 8:30 & the center takes appt. Starting at 6 am.

[@AngelaB2024]

I loved Las Cruces when I first moved there. The beautiful, newer & cheaper homes in Las Cruces makes one think they're getting a great deal. I liked how there's no tornado, hurricane, wildfire or earthquake. Before moving there, be aware that restaurants are mostly burger joints or Mexican food. I see NM license plates, including myself, driving to El Paso for better restaurants. If you want to get a job, it's who you know. Lot of jobs require you to speak Spanish. The better neighborhood to live in is Sonoma Ranch. Outside, there's not much to offer because too many homes are built and not enough good quality restaurants or entertainment. Many out of state transplants, esp. CA, want a Trader Joe's. The city has very low income to qualify for a Trader Joe's. Lots of residents are poor and depend on social entitlements. The city is ok with average and doesn't want to grow like El Paso. The city is more interested in social programs rather than give businesses incentives to operate in LC. We moved to another state that provided better job opportunities and better amenities.

[@tammymartin5743]

Thank you for your response. I would be retired by the time we would relocate. I currently live where there are tourist destinations and over priced restaurants, and not great if you ask me. I would have to drive to Houston for that. I’m mostly looking for better weather, outdoor activities and safety

[@edwardkeller1372]

But what is the crime rate there. If it's anything like Albuquerque I ain't goin'!

[@Wft-bu5zc]

@@edwardkeller1372 Las Cruces is very safe

[@jimjohnson6944]

where'd you move to yo?

[@MrDONTEATUS]

@@edwardkeller1372 there are only 120K people here and a lot of them are college students and retired people. There is hardly any crime especially compared to a big city.

[@cherylcampbell7495]

Had a pie shaped lot picked out in Saddle Creek. Decided to stay in El Paso.

[@BabyLetsCruise]

How is living in El Paso? I'm soon to be a nurse and I'm concerned about finding work out there. I live in Oklahoma and I hate it here.

[@davestewart2067]

Property taxes are high in El Paso County. The common excuse given is there’s no TX state income tax. Too much government and too many school districts, each with bloated administration.

[@glennhales7302]

Great job. I especially liked you being honest about the "cons" of living here. There are some major ones, but overall, a great place to live. Hope it helps you sell more homes!! Oh yeah, small business is horrible here!

[@jamesmcnutt4307]

Please check your sound, the music makes it very difficult to hear you.

[@maxine7088]

I can barely hear you with my sound all the way up. Plus, the music is too loud.

[@WalksandSuch]

I'm looking to move to El Paso but Las Cruces seems interesting and I'm happy it will be nearby...why does Las Cruces seem so much greener though than EP?

[@ZacharyJohnson-kw9tg]

It’s a smaller city so not as much buildings would be my guess. And I live here and there are A LOT of trees And not just in the huge orchards by the city

[@progkast]

LC is much nicer than EP. I almost moved to EP and glad I didn't. EP is more industrial, much much larger population. LC is more of an artsy, outdoorsy, sleepy, college town. EP is more of an industrial, busy large city with close Mexican connections (many ppl both in LC and EP have family in Mexico, but more EP than LC), lots of violence (from what I see in the news, like a shooting every week :O ) As for actual greenery, LC has higher mtns, and more rain runoff, as well as more shade from the rising sun. EP, has smaller mtns and the city is on both sides and around the S of the mtns. Leads to a slightly different climate - though mostly the same as far as temp. LC is prob slightly more humid than EP, and also more likely to snow.

[@monicaabdalla1221]

@@progkastso is las cruces safer than EP?

[@aaronedlund4008]

Umm, I miss the food and mountains and that's it

[@melissahall7009]

Great video ❤

[@jaimesaenz7787]

I love my hometown

[@timthompson8297]

Depends on what a person is looking for.

[@kelkilkat]

You could drop the background music, it is very distracting and makes hearing you very difficult. So many people who make videos add background music thinking it adds something to their video.. well it does not, someone watching has to strain to understand the person talking. Don't stop making videos, it was very well done 🙂

[@plantificationpodcast]

Nicely done.

[@okokayy]

thanks for this great video review! me and my wife both work for IHS currently outside of ABQ and we're worried that we won't be able to find employment once we move there for school, ur thoughts?

[@celestialnavigator3116]

Very nice video. Thank you for this informative presentation. As I always say, there is no Heaven on Earth. There are always going to be drawbacks but over all it seems to me that Las Cruces could be a wonderful place to call home. It is worth a visit. Thanks again. Did I hear you mention that you're also a Realtor?

[@rhyanaraiza]

Thank you for the kind words! We are a team of realtors who also make KZbin videos on the area. We're glad to help if you want some more information on the area or if you are curious about homes here!

[@jeffalbillar7625]

Search "Las Cruces Terratorn". Pretty trippy

[@faithfulgrandma1062]

Been living here since1956. Lots of good churches ( Christian) the University is beautiful. My family likes to go hiking and biking. Lots of places to go . Our Organ Mountains are beautiful. I'm Mexican so I do my own Mexican dishes at home.

[@KitKat-u8u]

How are the medical services in Los cruces

[@davidwild1155]

Two of the transformers movies were fillmed at white sands too

[@janetmeils9641]

Thinking of moving there!

[@rickless1978]

I can't hear you....music in the back ground is too loud

[@danielrickel8807]

Looks nice. 2 questions: is it necessary to speak Spanish to live there comfortably and does the school district have its own buses or do they have a contract with a school bus provider such as first student or Durham?

[@ZacharyJohnson-kw9tg]

You don’t need to speak Spanish to live here Iv been living here all my life and I don’t speak or know Spanish

[@dianabarraza5156]

The school district has an external provider for the school bus, I think it's called STS.

[@michaelfleming40]

One doesn't need to speak Spanish here in Las Cruces, but since taking Spanish for 3 years in high school and minoring in it in college, I love to practice speaking it whenever the opportunity arises. 😊❤

[@Rayg.08]

1:33 that is my dads green truck

[@walliegoolsby5389]

What about the crime rate?

[@briancyers6790]

What is the future of water there? I lived in ABQ years ago and love NM, would love to retire there.

[@jeffalbillar7625]

Great question.

[@RJohnson-w8u]

Looking good with harsher winters predicted into the future. Elephant butte was down to only 3% after many years of doubt and up to 20% after last winter snow falls.

[@progkast]

LC doesn't have a water issue. Higher elevations such as Ruidoso and Cloudcroft may. Timburon always has had issues. If the Spaceport were to become more busy and have regular launchings, that could cause an issue. But right now... nope.

[@tacticalsweater5119]

I'm considering this area to disappear in after a greyhound ride. Sick of life.

[@Its_Me0000]

Where did you mention is 20 degrees lower than Las Cruces?

[@progkast]

I didn't see that, but probably Cloudcroft and Ruidoso (the mountains an hour and an hour and a half from LC, respectively).

[@toddltomlinson]

FYI -- your background music is so loud its hard to hear what you're saying --

[@JonathanPaulC]

Get rid of the music so we can hear you better.

[@lin56789]

点赞订阅非常感谢您的分享喜欢这个城市👍👍👏👏🌟🌟

[@stevenisfatmf]

The other big con here is the air quality. I have to blow my nose 50 times every morning and my throat is scratchy many days. No it's not just the dust either cause in Alamogordo, Ruidoso, TorC etc I have nowhere near the same trouble. And it's not just during allergy season, which is also pretty bad, but it's 90% of the year. I usually liked escaping to Cloudcroft or Silver City just to catch some mountain air. Dripping Springs was the quickest option during monsoon, that was my saving grace. It's a great place but the air just kills me. Also the jobs really really really suck

[@kimshultz3582]

Okay, you talk a good game about living in las cruces (I lived there many years ago --early 90's) so you made NO MENTION about JOBS inside Las Cruces...... Are they still crappy and hard to find so that you end up commuting to Anthony, El Paso, and other locations. Good job on most of the cons tho

[@allent1034]

Maybe you didn't see the whole video. He said the Number 1 con of Las Cruses was lack of jobs. See video from 7:00 to about 7:45 where he explains all about it.

[@kimshultz3582]

@@allent1034 I did see it but didn't feel that you highlighted just how tough it is. Wear/tear on vehicles, almost nonexistent public transpo, endless driving,..... great place if working from home but jobs scarce not just due to location but also the HUGE influx of NMSU students taking all flexible retail jobs not to mention other gig jobs

[@progkast]

Inside LC, if you are not in Gov, Aerospace, film, or cannabis, or are willing to work for a company that needs IT, the only jobs are in service or retail. There is no manufactering here (although we have a large cheese factory, I think they are closing shop here, so I heard somewhere), no airline industry, entertainment execs, etc. I don't know what other jobs people are talking about that aren't here, I mean, there's retail, and there's specialty. We have a limited number of specialty jobs areas.

[@MYZTICTRAVLER]

Nice video. Great key points highlighting the good aspects of L.C. I give you a ding for trying to make L.C. sound as if it is ALREADY a booming film/acting hotspot. You probably should have mentioned the crime rate there which is above the national average in almost every category. And with El Paso's Chicago level crime next door, that's a huge con. for L.C.

[@RS-ls7mm]

Its a real estate commercial. Everyone I know hated the place.

[@joez3706]

El Paso is no Chicago when it comes to crime

[@joez3706]

​@RS-ls7mm Most people who move here Love it. As for myself, I like it well enough.

[@progkast]

The film industry actually is pretty booming here. There are two major films going on right now. One is a Tyler Perry film. We have one studio, with another one coming soon, a City film office, a local film company (works to facilitate connections), and a dedicated soundstudio in the works. Not to mention the film courses added to NMSU recently with incentives and liasons with local film studios and major production companies. True about crime. I don't know about the comparison, but the homeless issue and drug issue is a really big thing here that is not addressed by the courts. Crimes are committed and the perpetrators are deemed incompetent to stand trial (due to drug addiction) and released 100% of the time (when they are users or on medication).

[@guaporeturns9472]

Where does it get its water?

[@joez3706]

Mostly ground water

[@progkast]

Natural acquifers continually replenished by rains and the Rio Grande.

[@mikec6733]

Are there scorpions, tarantulas and rattlers ?

[@bobertjones2300]

Only when they find you! Fortunately, they are not interested in you so they keep to themselves. The local tarantulas are barely socialble.

[@ceceosborn176]

Yes, they do have scorpions and rattlesnakes, black widow spiders, various other biting, poisonous bugs etc, rabies. Its the desert.

[@mikec6733]

@@ceceosborn176 do they come into people's houses ?

[@ceceosborn176]

@@mikec6733 snakes wont.come in unless you leave the doors open, which you cant because of bugs. Scorpions, spiders, yes just like anywhere. Akways shake out your shoes before putting them on. Screens on windows at all times. Lives there for 16 yrs, we to NMSU. Moved to Seattle, WA. Escaping the constant high winds and blowing dust in the air and high heat was such a bonus. I notice they dont mention the wind, or the over 100 degree temps.Would not move back for love or money. Las Cruces is far better than Deming, Lordsburg, Artesia, Clovis, T or C, though. Far more civilization

[@richarddebeer9081]

@@mikec6733 Only if you leave the doors open.

[@johnnynephrite6147]

The problem with Las Cruces is, its in New Mexico. The poorest, most under serviced state in the West. Sales taxes are about the same as in California, but no beaches and no (insert 1000 other things) you name it.

[@progkast]

I've lived in CA, TX, NJ, and traveled all over the country. NM is the best state in the union. I wouldn't say that if I was going to stay living here. I don't want any more Californians moving here. But I am moving to be closer to family. It really is the best state. I do miss the beaches, but we have some great lakes. I don't know what you mean by "underserviced", but there are some areas I can see that. Medical, education. Other than that, I'd take NM over Cali any day of the year, where 30 yrs ago, a friend of mine bought a one bedroom house for 500,000 in a run down neighborhood. No one else I worked with could afford a home (gov job). I moved here and bought a 4 bedroom for 100,000 in a newer neighborhood. But... whatever man, you do you.

Property taxes are NOT the same as in California !!! LOL... Are you kidding??

[@johnnynephrite6147]

what does property tax have to do with this?

[@2hotFL]

Would love to retire there but I hear NM taxes are bad?

[@rhyanaraiza]

Hi there! We would love to have you here in Las Cruces. NM property taxes are one of the lowest in the country. Are you talking about a different kind of tax? Please feel free to reach out were happy to help!

[@2hotFL]

@@rhyanaraiza Read somewhere NM taxes about everything including your Social Security, pension, 401K, etc. Maybe that's wrong, I don't know.

[@IWrocker]

@@2hotFL They Do Not tax your Social security as of 2022

[@MrDONTEATUS]

@@2hotFL They do not tax SS anymore. And property taxes are very low compared to Texas and other places.

[@2hotFL]

@@MrDONTEATUS Thanks for the update. I'd love to maybe live there one day!

[@kevintewey1157]

Not good to be off the bus route but 30 minutes outside of some US cities you won't even have a taxi

[@098ioplkm]

Could you explain a little more on this

[@kevintewey1157]

How do I explain the lack of public transportation in the US? I guess you have to experience it

[@rosanneallen-hewlett9973]

Please leave Californiation in California.😮

[@maureen9115]

I am conservative from California but my husband wanted to be here by his family that has long roots. This area is hard core left wing democrat & their god is keeping the boarder full open & getting taxpayers to pay for everything: all abortions up to 9 months, transgendering young kids without parental knowledge, welfare,ebt, medical & housing vouchers for far too many people not working. Schools are the most beautiful I have ever seen, but the educational level of achievement is lower than all other states. The big thing is they call themselves multicultural when they only adhere to people from Northern Mexico & ignore the native New Mexico Hispanics that are often really more Native American & all whites are Anglo because they don’t know any better.

[@joez3706]

I moved here from California and I wish I left myself in California 😢

[@rubbersidedown7041]

This music is distracting. You don't need it.

[@michaelsix9684]

this is a town where you need to be self employed or create a business

[@kevintewey1157]

Consider your audience 6 minutes to talk about taxes when 60% of Americans don't have $1,000 for the next emergency

[@michaelsix9684]

keep this place a secret or too many people will move in and ruin it

[@omarherrera7745]

If you’re from California or Texas don’t move here

[@joez3706]

I did and wish I didnt

[@omarherrera7745]

@@joez3706 then leave

[@joez3706]

@@omarherrera7745 so rude

[@omarherrera7745]

@@joez3706 I’m guessing you’re Californian because you’re to sensitive

[@omarherrera7745]

@@joez3706 I can tell you’re from California because you’re so sensitive

[@okaminess]

I don’t like the strong Catholic culture.

[@joez3706]

It's not that strong, lukewarm nonpracticing at best

[@jerryransbarger8927]

Very liberal

[@jerryransbarger8927]

And if you don’t have a government job you most likely are on some sort of welfare like the rest of NM

[@098ioplkm]

Is it really?

[@JohnDavis-xk5fi]

That's a good thing.

[@joez3706]

Yes it's liberal, that's a good thing and was a factor in my decision to move here.

[@albertsmith5385]

There going to change name to Satan city