Has ONE Championship Ruined Muay Thai?

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One championship Muay Thai has pretty much become it’s own sport. When compared with traditional Muay Thai it is it’s own beast. Shorter rounds, smaller gloves, a different scoring criteria favoring aggression meaning fights are fought at a faster pace and there are more knockouts. So “what’s the problem?” you might be thinking. Let’s take a closer look at why the Muay Thai purists may have an issue with the ONE Muay Thai rules format.
Do you think ONE is good for Muay Thai? Let me know in the comments below!
#one #thaiboxing #muaythai #prostriking

[@mad_monke_life]

I don't mind the 4 ounce gloves and even the limited clinching. But I absolutely hate it when the refs don't allow fighters to download information and force them to brawl. Also, I don't like how fighters who fight on the backfoot are less favoured in terms of scoring. Due to this technical back foot fighters like Nong-O had to completely change their style to an aggressive front foot style.

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

They just want immediate KOs. Thats why Friday Night Fights is just a festival of sloppy aggressive brawling labeled "muay thai" just because it has elbows

[@sheena1521]

Spot on

[@ashleyalexander7388]

I think things like agression should only count if the match didn't involve many strikes. If you're moving back and outstrike the opponent or drop them... it shouldn't matter.

[@Jandro1083]

Muay Thai has always been about going forward, nothing new there.

[@bl-nb8fo]

@@Jandro1083 No, it's not. Too much aggression can actually count against you in traditional muay thai because it signals desperation

[@amahledimba8846]

Only thing I don't like is the limited clinching, because as much as it tries to focus on "Muay Thai", it rarely accommodates different Thai styles (Muay Khao, Femur, Tae & Sok). Muay Mat practitioners fit in perfectly.

[@JaredClaunch]

^ this is exactly how I feel

[@derrickrobinson7269]

Wow I did not know there were so many Muay Thai styles. Could you give a quick summary of each one?

[@JaredClaunch]

@@derrickrobinson7269 generally, the different styles refer to specializations or preferences of the fighter but to generalize some popular ones: Muay Mat: aggressive, forward-moving, very boxing & power-low-kick heavy. They tend to be good in-fighters, and keep their opponents on the back foot Muay Khao: clinch-heavy style that specializes in knees, often stifling the opponent’s attacks & controlling their balance. Muay Tae: kicking specialists. They tend to snipe, or smash, with kicks from the outside. They often have versatile teeps, great lateral movement, and powerful kicks Muay Sok: elbow-heavy style that relies on timing and distance-management on the outside, and very active clinching on the inside to smash & cut their opponents with elbows. Muay Femur: a technical style that heavily utilizes feints and setups. They tend to snipe at their opens from range, then change up tactics to exploit openings

[@derrickrobinson7269]

@@JaredClaunch That's so cool, I like how Muay seems to have it's own version of every striking style (Karate, TKD, Kickboxing, etc). I'm really drawn to the descriptions for Mat, Tae, and Femur so I'll look further into those styles for my own striking. I'm primarily a NoGi Grappler (Style Inspired by the Ruotolos) but would definitely like to add striking into my arsenal as well since I'm built like the Ruotolos with long limbs

[@JaredClaunch]

@@derrickrobinson7269 always happy to nerd out about the best sport in the world! Here’s some fighters for those three styles who have a lot of highlights & fights on KZbin: Mat: Rodtang Tae: Tawanchai Femur: Saenchai

[@ike804]

I consider ONE Muay Thai "Striking". Not exactly Kickboxing, not exactly Muay Thai, but not different enough from either to be a super far removed. My preferred type of striking sport to watch because I enjoy a boxing heavy game, but I am a little dissapointed at the lack of clinch work

[@AnnaKuznetzova88]

If u like boxing heavy game why not glory? Much much better boxing then one. Even less clinch tho

[@jocoolshow]

You’d think the 4oz gloves would make the clinch more viable

[@ike804]

@@AnnaKuznetzova88 I also enjoy watching Glory, but frankly, there's just not many fighters in Glory I'm particularly drawn to, so I don't find myself tuning in too often.

[@kilcreper4919]

Agreed, they want to have muay Thai with duch kickboxing paste

[@kilcreper4919]

Agreed, they want to have muay Thai with duch kickboxing paste

[@lovelife1867]

the clinching , the rhythm , the feeling of the game.. all gone for "ko percentage" . Chatri knows westerners want blood and guts , so he changed muay thai so one could conquer western audience..

[@bl-nb8fo]

@@lovelife1867 And Chatri has the nerve to say ONE is so eastern

[@DefZen343]

you say western audiences but very few people watches muay thai in asia too, One is making muay thai more popular all over the world. if they want to see traditional muay thai they can go watch it, its been around forever yet no one watches it, even in asia.

[@lovelife1867]

@@DefZen343 I live in Th and regular events are packed with fighters worldwide, funny enough , Chinese are sending their fighters to practice in gyms and later fight in events like kunlun fight and similar.. Japanese also. Muay Thai is visible to you as much as media allows you to be. I live in Thailand and for me this is a normal sport.

[@DefZen343]

@@lovelife1867 Yeah ofcourse you are in Thailand and people specifically interested in Thai fighting will go there. the rest of the world doesnt know much about Muay thai and rarely watch it.

[@lovelife1867]

@@DefZen343 because they suck. There are bunch of Eu countries that still do shotokan point karate or taekwondo. America sticks to what they know and are afraid to venture into best standup in existence. What you can't see is how BIG Asia is. Do you know how good Iranian fighters now are ? British have great stock too .. Muay Thai with normal gloves is a poetry in motion , not just banging and 4oz gloves nullify that art. The rest of the world will only know 4oz cause they need easy fun on friday night on beers and snacks.

[@pichupuche2474]

No not ruined. I am Thai and believe me most of Thai people very like 4oz gloves this is close to how the beginning of MT use that was in real war and completely bare hand and then change to ropes and then follow Boxing gloves.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

That's interesting to hear. I'm an American MMA fan and I love ONE's muay thai with 4 Oz gloves. I've watched nearly every one of their Friday Fight cards for the past few months.

[@MichaelForde521]

So One focuses on the results and Stadium focuses on the process.

[@prostriking]

🤔 that's an interesting way of looking at it!

[@decidingpaper6324]

Unique perspective indeed

[@tommygunnggg1127]

I think they have brought more eyes making more Star and that can never be a bad thing, I love what one is doing

[@metalface_villain]

one focuses on making as much money as they can but in the process they are ruining muay thai. i will be honest, there are things in traditional muay thai that i'm not a fan of, like the two first rounds and end of 5th being slow and scoring how balanced and beautiful the techniques are instead of who is actually beating the other guy up but what one has done, with the clinch basically being non-existent and the refs forcing action at all times is just criminal and has turned most of the muay thai fights into bar brawls.

[@metalface_villain]

@@tommygunnggg1127 if turning muay thai into just two dudes brawling makes it popular then it is a bad thing, at least if you love muay thai. with proper promotion and money behind it and some changes to some rules, legit muay thai can be way more popular than what one has to show.

[@dainsismey4900]

I think its great for muay thai, more global eyes on an under appreciated sport and its given an absolute pinnacle for aspiring muay thai fighters to aim for. I know its not "traditional" but all sports have to evolve before they become massive

[@prostriking]

@dainsismey4900 ye for sure, i can appreciate this! I enjoy both styles of fighting and it's great to see older legends get a pay day that have put in years If graft in muay thai for next to nothing! Thanks for for commenting, appreciate you! 🙏

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

ONE isnt evolution. It's reverting back to an archaic and less developed form of muay thai. Only good thing it did is small gloves. Bit the rulesets, nope, absolutely not

[@loosecannon6142]

Agreed!

[@strangeman9362]

​@@user-pd9ju5dk5straditional muay thai is boring and the judging is not based on how much you hit and inflict damage to an opponent but how much you endure punishment and look unfazed which is kind a silly

[@Steelserpent82]

@@strangeman9362you could argue the amount of brawling and pub fight style ko’s in ONE make it’s Muay Thai boring

[@saikyoDRAGON]

You could technically say One FC adds the elements of Kard Chuek, where the only two outcomes are knockout or draw. It also uses ropes instead of 12oz gloves, which is more similar to 4oz gloves. Also noticed that the Thai crowd at One shows in Lumpinee were younger than ones in Rajadamnern. It's possible that the One style of Muay Thai appeals to a younger Thai audience, not just international audiences.

[@MrTopcvg]

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[@decidingpaper6324]

Me personally I view ONE in the lens of ‘it’s not killing Muay Thai, but is it REALLY Muay Thai?’ I’m glad to see the refs become more permissive of the clinch though.

[@lovelife1867]

permissive? they stop clinching almost immediately.

[@decidingpaper6324]

@@lovelife1867 yeah I should’ve specified it seems to vary depending on who’s reffing, some refs allow it while others break it up immediately

[@Official.CalebLeal]

@@decidingpaper6324I’ve noticed this also

[@SarcasticElbows]

Rws is also limited in clinches, but still more than ONE ofc

[@funfionn2045]

i perfer cages to rings, i dont like when a fighter just gets cornered and basically cant escape unless the aggressor royaly fuckes up.

[@grappling.enthusiast]

the only thing rings have imo is they look so sexy. cages are better in almost every other way tho

[@lucian5389]

I don't like that they can't lean back and rope a dope. Should do a circular ring like BKFC

[@ManniTaratorn]

Muay Thai, should be free to use all 8 limbs, to show the real performance and the arts of MuayThai. We use to have the clinch master, like DieselNoi LuangSuan and PanomTuanLek. Now these clinch masters cannot utilized all technique with the new rule and these technique will be extincted. At least 3-4 knees should be allowed.

[@logosrising865]

great vid which makes a great observation. I was wondering about this the last few days. ONE FC fights are fast paced with a high KO ratio. but it's started to look more like kickboxing at times. I used to get bored when fights were clinch heavy (muay khao) but now I understand that aspect better, I've come to appreciate it more and appreciate the slow build up more. fighters really test each other out to determine a strategy and tactics. you can see more of the subtleties and thinking behind certain moves. I'll still watch ONE FC definitely (Glory has lost its appeal) but I've found I'm looking more and more for the more traditional fights in Thailand. like the fight between Rodtang and Kaonah. Kaonah won that one by shutting down Rodtang with his patient muay femur style and it was great to watch.

[@paybax]

Overall like it more. It’s crazy how in modern MT they use huge gloves, but no elbow, knee or shin pads which highly reduces the focus of hands.

[@MP-db9sw]

The clinch and the Ram Muay are what makes Muay Thai truly distinctive from other styles. Imo anything that reduces the clinch work during the fight is a big step in the wrong direction. MT is very much a cultural activity and the Ram Muay is an important part of that. I understand maybe not televising it, maybe, but I dont think you should expect Thais to fight without it being performed. For judging I also think the traditional perspective about things like balance and ring control is a superior, more sophisticated way to evaluate the fight. Factors like the gloves and the cage are much less important imo.

[@kevinthomas7259]

I agree it makes Muay Thai look sloppy and it has totally changed the way they fight, I miss the golden era of Muay Thai

[@wan8239]

as thai who train couple days a week. i love one's rule it force the fight to be more realistic after all MT suppose to be martial art that can be use in irl, but it need couple of adjustment, first is don't make ref force the action it will be more realistic because if you were to get caught in street fight you would fight at your own pace and only your opps can change that by being aggresive, next one is longer clinch time, it give more time for fighter to show skill in the clinch, last point is score base on damage not matter back foot or front foot if you give you opps damage you are wining. i think that this is a evolution MT going through it will force triditional muay thai with no boxing defence, no headmovement to improve and will make muay thai wayyy better in self defence overall because fighter force to be will rounded not only kick and pull back or hide behind big glove when punch come.

[@thedust850]

Good points

[@tezo_25]

Who’s the heavy boxing style fighter at 2:08? I’ve been trying to find him for the longest

[@prostriking]

That's Jamal Yusupov! He beat some good fighters on ONE like Sammy Sana and Yodsanklai but lost to tawanchai by leg kick stoppage and hadn't fought in one since. Think he is still fighting on a Russian promotion though

[@siegfriedo]

Eliminating the clinch is the biggest mistake they did IMO. 👎

[@GewoonGaande_]

More raw 👊

[@prostriking]

Oss! Thanks for commenting 🤝👊

[@GewoonGaande_]

@@prostriking oss👊🏆

[@Epig420]

its bad for muay thai as a art, alot of technical fighting and counter fighting will die out because of the rule set and scoring

[@heartthrobheart6288]

I think Muaythai rules are respected in fewer organizations even with gloves. It’s mainly respected for 1st two round slow and rest 3 with more weight mainly in Thailand or Thai organizations. But other Muay Thai organizations abroad you’ll find one guy fighting pure Muay Thai while his opponent is heavy kickboxing style with high pace. One champion ship came later and made a business model of what can sell for Muaythai

[@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL]

*i think the positives outway the negatives. some fighters are making more in a couple of fights on One then they have in their entire careers.*

[@charlesjameskelly7689]

I would like 5 minute rounds and more clinching

[@PlayermakerBlue]

Very insightful video, thank you. Now I finally understand why so many Thai Fighters are getting knock out during One Friday Fight Nights by non Thais, and it’s always the same “formula” where they rely a lot of body kicks but eventually getting KO by pressured boxing. Not to mention why they seem to prefer a back foot/counter attack style instead of just going forward like their opponents. I guess that’s an adjustment that’s harder for Thais especially since they are so used to the traditional Muay Thai rules and have been doing that for so long, hence having to readjust something that’s like muscle memory to them needs alot more time.

[@AS-bc8fg]

One also ruined their MMA fighters' careers

[@muay0437]

How so?

[@AS-bc8fg]

@@muay0437 essentially they realised that Muay thai was the way to make money in SE Asia Look at their MMA champs When have they fought? March 1st for 3 champs Fuck, the welterweight and lightweight champ hasn't fought since 2022 Dj just retired so the bantamweight champ is vacant Antony is a 3 divisional champ which means he's holding up 3 divisions simultaneously Also the athletes can't leave either because of contractual obligations and stipulations You saw that Mikey was stripped of his title too Absolute fucking bullshit everywhere except in Muay thai Heck even in kickboxing, allazov hasn't fought for a year ONE is doomed unless they do something fast

[@muay0437]

@@AS-bc8fg ok thank you. just wanted to know

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@AS-bc8fgAt this point I'd rather ONE just focus on their version of muay thai. They have some good MMA fighters I'd like to see in the UFC and other organizations where they'd actually fight.

[@thefootballpunnedit]

The gloves are most definitely fun, but they need to let the clinch go more. Also the fight being scored as a whole is much better... you go to stadiums in Thailand and watch two people shuffle and taunt for the entire 5th round... or one fighter just stop punishing someone with a minute left in the 4th because the fight is considered over and both sets of coaches start shouting "PAW PAW"... it's very tedious as a spectator.

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

There is no point to trying to kill each other in 5th rd if one fighter has clearly demonstrated he is the better fighter

[@HittoTheAssassin]

Id rather watch One than two fighters bouncing their front foot for 2 rounds just throwing teeps. One, forces the action and i dont mind that.

[@prostriking]

😂😂 bouncing the lead foot and rolling up the shorts isn't everyone's cup of tea haha. Thanks for commenting

[@powehi1710]

I think spot on, It may be different, but it brings eyes, that could end up falling in love with the more technical side as well. Why can't we have both?

[@raymonddam6587]

What ounce gloves are on the elbows or knees?

[@nhlfan1001]

I prefer ONE's scoring system. It's similar to what's seen in boxing and MMA and just makes more sense to me while being more entertaining (to me). I don't understand the purpose of taking away the clinch. That's just kickboxing with elbows. Which makes no sense since ONE has kickboxing too. And there's nothing wrong with kickboxing, but the clinch is arguably THE thing that differentiates the two sports While MMA gloves could in theory make someone punch harder, that isn't always the case. Boxers hit harder than MMA fighters because they wear boxing gloves and can hit as hard as they want without injuring their hands. Boxing gloves originally lead to an increase in kos since prior fighters used to fight very defensively to protect their hands. I prefer the MMA gloves if there's a strong clinch game since those gloves are designed specifically for that in the first place, but prefer boxing gloves otherwise. From a fan perspective I also just think there's something aesthetically pleasing about boxing gloves. I also think boxing rings are better for fans especially inside the arena. However, ONE often puts MT Kickboxing MMA and grappling all on the same card and I can understand why a cage would be necessary to prevent grapplers from falling out of the ring Edit: I think maybe the fact that ONE has kickboxing and muay thai might be the real reason they make the MT guys wear MMA gloves. So that the fans perceive them as two different sports.

[@ThatFreeWilliam]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the original gloves just cloth wraps and not gigantic boxing gloves? IMO MMA gloves are closer to 'traditional' and if anything hurt Muay Thai it was looking to American Boxing for advice.

[@pokka253]

Punches is less score in One. You can see when Thai vs foreigner ends with scoring (no knock down) and foreigner with only punch rarely win and there will be a comment like robbery. It happens every single week on One’s instagram. Punch only win Thai by KO

[@prostriking]

Ones' scoring criteria doesn't differentiate between strikes! So, all techniques should score equally, depending on their effectiveness.

[@BlacksmithBets]

@@prostriking Yes but consider that judges are likely to have a fondness for tradition and so bring bias into their scoring. In the UFC this happens with some judges scoring grappling control and oither scoring damage despite the rules clearly stating that they should only score damage with grappling control only being relevant when damage is equal. Every card at least one judge ignores this and scores control over damage so the same is likely for One FC imo. Humans are very biased creatures by our nature.

[@siamsanchez291]

Fuck u mean punch rarely win fighter win with a punch ko all the time😂

[@wezzjones1936]

they fight sometimes with thin rope probably smaller than 4oz gloves.

[@combatprinciplesmma]

Yeah, it's not Muay Thai. It's a derivation of it

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

That's how I see it too. As an American I prefer ONE's version but I can see how others wouldn't.

[@JakeTheMuss10454]

Muay Thai is a tough man sport filled with skillful and yet talented fighter from allover the world, who in Association with this group and others like Strike force Yoakkao etc. have done and continue to do what it takes to keep it going. let us be careful in rule changing but more so let us make rules that are fair to the fighters and the sport. The gloves could change if necessary in protection of fighters in general. today in MMa many fighters despite their size in the given weight class still demand the extra wrapping so their 4oz. gloves are bigger. boxing gloves are also a great idea and should be used more often for even a boxer with his gloves can severely beat a Bareknuckle Brawler, respect to them both, professional status comes with the fights most importantly all the fighting in the gym to get to fight night. Whether is your first 5 or your 500th. let us respect the recognition of what ONE does is not a a gimmick to get more too follow but to bring forth the best of the best to produce the best. But IF I had to interject I would thing that creating something between an MMA sparring glove and Boxing glove, with room and yet the feel of a Mexican's Puncher glove makes the best sense.

[@jameswysocki6806]

May Thai has always seemed very niche, to me... almost esoteric since it has such a small but rabid fan base. Traditional Muay Thai in Thailand seems like a combination of all pro sports in the U.S. when it cones to popularity, and I understand that purists will find the traditional sport being watered down and too similar to MMA or Lethwai. I take it, whether for good or for bad, as an evolution that takes Muay Thai to an international audience. The explosion and popularity of MMA is going to make other sports more aligned with its style. The rule changes are to make it more exciting and easier to understand for most people. Unfortunately, money changes everything.

[@munseyrohnan]

The variety of textures in the kislux pack is impressive. From smooth leather to textured suede, there's something for everyone.

[@d1kiz]

At the origins there was no gloves in MT

[@manuelzapata1192]

I think one championship makes it more Palatable For Western audience. And Training, fighting is pretty brutal So to have more financial compensation for that I think is a good thing.

[@evansketches]

You know what else ONE is allegedly ruining? The Kickboxing side😐

[@natebardwell]

Less art and more brutality is worse for fighters. Technical fighters are at a disadvantage for scoring. Clinch restrictions eliminate a number of strategic options that I frankly was trying to watch to learn from so that's a bummer. But overall, I have to admit it this has done a lot to popularize Muay Thai. So there is more damage, less strategy...but more opportunity. It's all tradeoffs.

[@danb9131]

I don’t think one championship has ruined Muay Thai but I don’t think it’s made it any better. I’ve been training Muay Thai for 20 years and trained and fought in Thailand for 18 months so I prefer traditional Muay Thai. However, I’ll still watch one championship.

[@kolbyjohnson2881]

I just wish there were higher weight classes in this rule set

[@marklandkim3121]

Turning Muay Thai back into a martial art isnt really ruining Muay Thai. The smaller gloves make it more realistic. I disagree with them taking clinch out but if you actually watch fights in the stadium you can see why it was done. Muay Khaos are dominating in stadium but its boring af to watch .

[@MrTopcvg]

ฉันเป็นคนไทย ที่รักมวยไทย คนไทยส่วนใหญ่และฉันสามารถพูดได้ว่าone fc คือองค์กรที่ช่วยมวยไทยออกมาจากยุคตกต่ำและเต็มไปด้วยการพนันอย่างแท้จริง one fc ให้ค่าตอบแทนที่ดีเหมาะสมแก่นักมวยไทย นักมวยไทยไม่จำเป็นต้องต่อสู้ทุกสัปดาห์เพื่อความอยู่รอดของครอบครัวและเป็นเหยื่อของนักพนันอีกไป คุณบอกว่าสนามราชดำเนินมีคนไทยเข้าชมมากกว่า one fc ลุมพินี ใช่ คุณพูดถูก แต่คนไทยเหล่านั้นส่วนใหญ่เป็นนักพนัน การพนันมวยไทยคืออาชีพของพวกเขา ไม่ใช่คนที่เข้ามาดูมวยไทยเพราะรักมวยไทยจริงๆ เกมกอดของ one fc มันดีกว่าแบบกีฬามวยไทยดั่งเดิมมาก เพราะแบบกีฬามวยไทยดั่งเดิมบางครั้งพวกเค้าก็กอดกันตลอดทั้งยก ตามคำสั่งของพี่เลี้ยงและนักพนันฝั่งของพวกเค้า ทำให้การสู้ทั้ง5ยกดูน่าเบือ และกีฬามวยไทยแบบ5ยก นวมใหญ่มันทำลายเทคนิคทั้ง8แขนง ความดุดัน รุนแรง และรวดเร็ว ของมวยไทยโบราณที่บรรพบุรุษพัฒนาขึ้น จนแทบจะไม่มีนักมวยไทยกล้าออกอาวุธเหล่านี้ เพียงเพราะการพนัน แต่one fc กำลังฟื้นฟูมวยไทยแบบโบราณที่บรรพบุรุษพัฒนาขึ้น เปลี่ยนจากการพันเชือกที่มือมาเป็นนวมเล็ก นักมวยไทยใช้ฝีมือและเทคนิค กล้าออกอาวุธทั้ง 8 แขนง ต่อสู้กันอย่างเต็มที่ และจบด้วยการเคารพซึ่งกันและกัน มีน้ำใจนักกีฬา ซึ่งเป็นเอกลักษณ์ของมวยไทย one fc ทำได้ดีมากกว่ากีฬามวยไทย5ยกนวมใหญ่แบบเดิม ข้อเสียข้อเดียวของ one fc ที่ฉันไม่ชอบคือ มีบางคู่ชกที่มีการตัดสินผู้ชนะแบบค้านสายตา เพราะฉะนั้น ถ้าคุณรักมวยไทย ได้โปรด คุณควรสนับสนุนone fc ฉันเป็นคนไทยและฉันก็เชื่อว่า one fc คือองค์กรที่จะทำให้มวยไทยและนักมวยไทยทุกสัญชาติ(ไม่ใช่เฉพาะคนไทย)โด่งดังไปทั่วโลก หวังว่าคุณจะแปลและอ่านความคิดเห็นที่ซื่อสัตย์และออกมาจากใจของฉัน😊

[@TheOneRealDJ]

I love it personally

[@classahalimaw4606]

Muaythai is effective in street fight using small gloves And also you change your defense

[@Steelserpent82]

Feel like ONE have done a complete 180 with regards to how they showcase Muay Thai. The highly technically sport has now become an aggressive all action slugfest. Will be interesting to see how the gyms in Thailand adapt to the ONE rule set considering that’s where the money is and a lot of thais are struggling against farangs who they’d normally beat

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It make suck for traditionalists but more farang viewers means more money. I'm an American who grew up watching boxing and MMA and I love ONE's muay thai.

[@DJchrismiller1]

I hate the small gloves. 🥊

[@andresgreene4913]

It's not Muay Thai, but it is more entertaining.

[@lovebunny5644]

As a thai one championship make muay thai better. People who bitching are just gamblers

[@chriseaton8559]

I think it’s way more exciting the fights are amazing in One

[@mihaipaduraru4990]

That's the new era of Muay Thai , more boxing based

[@JayGatz-sd9qj]

One FC low-key what I always wanted Muay Thai to be. There are so many dumb rules in TMT and stupid scoring

[@muayboran6111]

Not at all. The gamblers did more harm to the sport than anyone. This is why guys who dominate their opponent with punches and kicks loses by getting swept a couple times. ONE saved muaythai from being boring even if it's not perfect yet, brought back distinct styles of muaythai, allowing new foreign styles to shine and all that's left is the clinch. Gamblers took away our Somrak Khamsing and our Samart Payakarun but these styles are slowly coming back

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

There is no new foreign style foh 😂 It's just kickboxing with mostly boxing ans a few elbows and kicks now. It doesn't even look like muay thai anymore 😂😂😂😂

[@mjolninja9358]

Lmao love that cherrypicked clips

[@Ogami_Goro]

Lot of misinformation here. Yes, in One sometimes Muay Thai matches take place in a cage, but it’s more likely that MMA and Submission Grappling matches take place in a ring. The majority of One’s fights take place at Lumpini Stadium, which is a traditional stadium ring. 2) As with everything, there are levels to the game. Amateur and even different Pro Leagues will have different rulesets. You seem to be lamenting this, implying that you’d rather have just one universal ruleset, and that it would be the Traditional Ruleset. This is delusional on your part.

[@PianomanMusic96]

What kind of BS post is this? ONE has given Muay Thai a massive worldwide stage. How is that ruining it?

[@laughtermaster89]

I like it more. In every way. besides the clinch being basically taken out. I want to see the effectiveness of the clinch with the smaller gloves.

[@prostriking]

Ye, I would like to see more clinching too! We still haven't seen a really strong muay thai clinch game in MMA and I think it would be really effective. I think superlek does a really good job of striking before the clinch and grabbing at the arms etc but I think there would be better style clashes with more extended grappling. Thanks for commenting

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

You like sloppy lethwei like aggression? Good for you

[@bl-nb8fo]

Well, some people have bad taste and that's ok

[@MuaythaiPGM]

@@prostrikingagreed

[@bigbodykarate6403]

@@prostriking Really ??? the entire Chute Box team was famous for their clinch game during Pride strikeforce and Ufc up to like the 120 -160 ish era. Anderson silva literally won the belt and defended it twice via Clinch masterclasses .

[@manteiv]

Honestly, I feel like they’ve made it a little more mainstream. The 4oz gloves and the platform itself that is ONE Championship made it a little more popular for the casual audience, to be honest. ONE is like the asian version of UFC but with multiple disciplines being showcased.

[@AnnaKuznetzova88]

Idk K1 was much more popular with casual audience then one is this days and K1 has big gloves

[@manteiv]

@@AnnaKuznetzova88 Yeah but how long was K1 popular? Years ago. Decades ago. Some people weren’t even old enough to have known that era. ONE brought back the interest of Muay Thai and Kickboxing to a lot of people. Glory Kickboxing did it too but their product isn’t even half as good as ONE when it comes to marketing.

[@tommygunnggg1127]

They have brought more eyes to that part of the country, I love what there doing, I've turned my MMA friends on to Friday night fights, they don't miss a fight

[@HungVu-ec3jk]

They butchered up the muay thai ruleset. They ruined kickboxing by bringing in top talents and either don't give them the fights they deserve, or straight up don't give them any fights at all. Also fuck the short clinch deletion from kickboxing

[@oneanother1]

One championship is on Amazon prime as well. Though I'm not sure how much that audience has caught on, there is still a disconnect with the athletes as to not knowing their fight history. I've entirely switched over to one championship and more towards kickboing, over the Ufc and mma. Ufc is getting stale and boring with all the same fighter keep fighting each other. The world has changed a lot over the last few years as war rages on.

[@CHE5T3R]

Personally, I like it. I was an MMA fan that came to ONE to watch DJ. But the ONE Muay Thai captured me. Ita now my preference to watch. Ive tried watching more traditional Muay Thai because of ONE but my preference is still ONE. Sure, the Friday Fights tend to get a bit scrappy, but i still think the best technical fighters prevail.

[@Flubbb]

I’m the same way, starting watching for DJ but got captivated by muay thai in 4oz. I find it more exciting than the ufc cards.

[@jacksonsanborn246]

As a Muay Thai practitioner myself, I have to admit ONE fights are just more entertaining than traditional Muay Thai fights. Yes I wish there was more clinching allowed, yes the traditional sport is beautiful in its own way… but to make Muay Thai successful in the west (or just to more casuals in general) the 4 oz glove is the best idea anyone has had.

[@hungniirulfur920]

Yes, they made muay thai in kickboxing with elbows. Even the thai stance is not used anymore except by haggerty

[@prostriking]

Thanks for commenting, appreciate you!

[@bl-nb8fo]

Friday Night Fights can also be described as lethwei without headbutts. Just sloppy aggressive lethwei-like brawling

[@blacklotus108]

@@bl-nb8fohey man don’t disrespect lethwei like that lol

[@AnnaKuznetzova88]

Idk kickboxing has much much better boxing technique and footwork

[@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96]

​@@bl-nb8fo Might as well just add Lethwei at this point

[@danielfriend7161]

I agree completely with all your points. I think a lot about this actaully so I was excited to see a video about this particular niche. The other thing that concerns me is not so much the evolution of what goes on in the ring if it were limited to that. My bigger concern is the evolution of training in this sport. Many of the champions in ONE have a traditionalist training background that is highly focused on fundamentals and proper technique (pretty muay thai) When they fight in ONE it's just at a much higher pace and more aggressive but almost all the fighters are still highly skilled and have great technique. However I think as time goes on the training and coaching may become more lackluster as damage and aggression will be the priority and it will end up looking more like Muay Thai in the USA where to put it simply from a reddit comment I saw a while back: "Muay Thai in the US is a ruleset and not a style" and we'll just end up getting brawls and not proper fights.

[@samart333]

I mean, hearing people say that Rodtang is in the Muay Thai GOAT'S conversation makes me cringe lol.

[@JCOdrjones]

As someone who's not in the conversation and trying to learn more, why?

[@samart333]

@@JCOdrjones Because Muay Thaï is so, so vast and contains so many greats who have done it. And it's only recently that the sport has gained a serious media coverage around the world. To cut a long story short, Rodtang is getting the biggest media treatment due to his fun highlights republished millions of times on Tiktok. Is he a good fighter? Absolutely, he is a savage. But talking about being close to the best ? Not Top 50. Not even Top 5 in this generation.

[@JCOdrjones]

@@samart333 Ah. So it's one of *those* situations. The new big pushed face of "a thing" being called a GOAT by what are mostly newbies into "the thing" Like damn, always annoying when something like this happens to something you are deeply into, and you find way too many people giving too many roses to one undeserving of the fields of flowers picked for them.

[@tsurugi5]

exactly haha talk about recency bias and just plain ignorance

[@nechtinejebe]

I agree with you, there are another names which most of western Muay Thai fans never heard about but they are basically legends of Muay Thai gaining very little recognition by west. (e.g. Langsuan, Pudpadnoi, Sagat, Karuhat, Dieselnoi, Samart, Apidej etc.. list goes on and on)

[@AnnaKuznetzova88]

Complaining of gloves is weird for me. I see many Muay Thai fights with just hand wrap and no glove at alwl

[@The31st]

Surely purists would say the small gloves makes it purer than stadium mt. Real mt should be bare knuckle or with rope wrapped around the fists.

[@morganlim4552]

Growing up in Southeast Asia and getting into Muay Thai (Thai boxing as we used to call it) in the late 70s through early 80s before moving to the US, I had the chance to see the golden era of MT and part of me love the ritualistic and artistic aspect of MT. Still, deep down, we all know that for MT to grow globally, it has to evolve, and as people from all over the world started to train in MT, the innovative contribution is bound to happen. No difference in how languages continue to evolve and grow. And it is a good thing.

[@emmycaty4670]

Yeah, Muaythai always evolving all the time. It’s always changing little bit by little to be acceptable by the society.

[@theallforone6240]

FIGHTERS ARE THE LAST THING ORGANIZATIONS CARE ABOUT

[@emmycaty4670]

True 😢

[@NabilBelajag]

I'm still salty they don't allows clinch bc clinch in that small glove would be a dream

[@drinkwater.10]

I don't think it destroys the traditional Muay Thai, like you said at the end of the video it brings more eyes to both ONE and the RWS. Although the "really elite" femur are rare in ONE, and those tends to be the champions. Being good in both Femur AND good with hands in 4oz gloves is essentially what is gonna get you into the big league. While those who only walks forward and swinging, even though they get a lot of KOs, they often lack defence in the exchange and are prone to being KO'd themselves. We see many instances of a comeback. Rodtang, Haggerty and Superlek, these are my top 3 as they can be on the back foot and countering, or walks forward while being defensively sound. Superlek vs Tagir I still rewatch many times to this days because of Superlek's elbows. The pulling down the guard for opening for the elbows, pushing the guards on Tagir to bounce him off the ropes and chuck the elbows. To me it did not look like a fight, but rather a murder attempt by Superlek. The way he leans forward to put every single ounce behind the chucking elbow is just brutal. I'd love it if you do a video on Superlek vs Tagir and the effectiveness of elbows in negating punches.

[@prostriking]

Thanks for commenting! I agree with a lot of what you've said there. Superlek vs tagir sounds like a good idea for a video and an interesting topic how elbows can negate another fighters boxing. I'll have to give that fight a rewatch! Thanks again for the comment, appreciate it!

[@drinkwater.10]

@@prostriking no problem, keep up the good work!

[@barryoffeastenders]

The english referee at One Championship - I think his name is Ricky Sewell - is very good and really seems to understand Muay Thai; letting the clinch go on and not constantly calling for ‘action’

[@jax9299]

I honestly think he's a bit better than Coste considering Ricky wants them to fight more while Coste wants to keep them separate

[@SarcasticElbows]

I started seeing alot of Stadium Muay Thai. Previously i watched alot of UFC, but got bored with it. Always was fascinated with Muay Thai. I think ONE led me to RWS, which led me to Stadium Fights. I have started to like 5 rounds over RWS 3 rounds. But they still have many good fighters to watch.

[@DandreCandia]

They watered it down stripped all the culture of it & made it "western friendly" so that it will be more well recived among mma fans riding off the popularity of the ufc the only thing I enjoy is the fact that they get paid more & have smaller gloves because it emulates a real fight better but one & the west miss out on some of the greatest Thai fighters of today, imagine telling a prime floyd mayweather to do 3 rounds only with mma gloves it would kill his whole style he might not even want to participate everything like smaller rounds & no clinching kills the whole point of Thai boxing its just a 9 minute hardcore kickboxing match with heavy elbows & a few knees / trips snuck in their actual skilled fighters will be replace with a bunch of wild big dumb roided out sluggers Muay Mut fighters are pretty much going to run the show & all the other Thai styles will be deemed irrelevant if nothing changes I'd rather they just learn some grappling join the ufc & fight full on mma than to see them limit their skills so much I enjoy it but they are leaving alot on the table

[@sweetshoez]

Clinching and regular scoring needs to be brought back. The clinch is like 1/3rd of the art

[@ennigmaa]

Does one egomaniac “Chatri bonus” go for beautiful Muay Thai? No! It’s for brawling and blood. The dude is single handedly destroying MT. Fighters are getting rich but the art is long gone.

[@mikaellugo4146]

I’ve come to love traditional Muay Thai way more than One. Don’t get me wrong, I’m watching the shit out of haggerty and Harrison tomorrow night but I look forward more to RWS and Petchyindee and my rewatches of AMT lol. Just feels way better and showcases the fascinating culture

[@stespark]

The traditional format has been around for so long and never gained mainstream recognition. The slow start of rounds 1-2, the 2 min breaks in-between rounds, the slow round 5 because of gambling and the fighter whose losing on points not wanting to engage. Unfortunately the traditional has never broken through, now ONE is making Muay Thai mainstream and people are complaining? About the fighters getting more money? More people watching it? They are the 2 most important things

[@Jedi_Jonson]

My only gripe is how little they let them clinch. If its muay thai rules, let them clinch abit longer as that is a big part of some thai fighters style. If it's a kickboxing match, then sure, shorten up the clinch length but still give me more leeway to clinch.

[@stehenry5634]

If you've watched traditional live Muay Thai you'll know it's slow paced to begin with, and then sometimes absolutely nothing happens in round 5 (fighters just stand there bouncing about or don't fight properly on round 5). One Muay Thai eliminates the messing around making it way more exciting. I've been to Muay Thai Fridays at New Lumphini and the main cards on Saturday at 8 a.m and they are packed out every time. The Thais love the events

[@ranger7605]

I respect ONE fighting championship and the art of muay thai I'm not a practioner but i think it's a beautiful and deadly art

[@YourManifoldWorld]

I don't generally watch ONE championship fights because I'm not interested in the "stand and bang" style. I love Golden Era Muay Thai where artistry, deception and beauty are displayed. That's my style.

[@Thebestplacetobe619]

What is stand and bang?

[@YourManifoldWorld]

@Thebestplacetobe619 basically "stand and bang" means you stand and take a hit to deliver a hit. Kind of like a "You hit me, I hit you, until one drops" It's detrimental to the fighter's health and it does not develop or grow the style. Golden age Muay Thai was VERY different. They are called Muay Femur. They follow the "hit but don't get hit" style. It's a lot more skillful, technical and it's very artistic. Saenchai, Lerdsila, Samart, Somrak etc are all Muay Femur fighters. They use a lot of timing, deception, guile, faints and agility. Not just power for power. To hit and not get hit in return is the ultimate goal, the ultimate style. Not what's being shown in ONE championship now.

[@unhpsychology3909]

Gotta say I love One Muay Thai. I totally get the purist perspective, though.

[@GooseTronics]

I started watching UFC way back on VHS when it was still in the single digits... when DJ went over to ONE I started to watch and that's where I was introduced to their version of Muay Thai. I never really considered Ones version traditional Muay Thai, tho I felt they did a good job at keeping a homage to traditional Muay Thai, while streamlining and adapting Muay Thai to a more global market. without ONE I never would have started watching Muay Thai or kicking boxing as much as I do now.

[@Seth-xh8qs]

What’s the song in the very beginning of the video?

[@zaidcarlos75]

The video did not mention "Thai Fight" events with traditional hand wrapping, three rounds... Rules can always be modified and changed to improve a sport for competitors & and spectators. 5-Rounds is not just for the purists and traditionalists. 👊😊

[@paaome]

MT in ONE fc 1. No traditional dance/Wai Kru before the fight 2. Not wearing Mongkol on the head. 3. Wearing small gloves oz 4. It only have 3 rounds (most regular MT fights have 5 rounds) 5. Not much clinch.

[@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL]

1. The championship fights have the Wai Kru. i’ve watched it live & in Person. 2. The Mongkol is work when doing the Wai Kru 5. The Championship fights have 5 rounds Seems like your getting confused with the One Friday Fights

[@decidingpaper6324]

@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUALand even then they occasionally do the Wai Kru on Friday Fights

[@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL]

@pexxeqstudio Not on One they dont. so i dont know what you’ve been watching at Lumpinee but it isn’t OneChampionship

[@strangeman9362]

Traditional muay thai boring

[@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL]

@@strangeman9362 To you maybe

[@vaiyavppp]

ONE turns into the brawling game. We see less technical muaythai in ONE. If you want to see techniques and technical MT, I recommend the RWS events. MT is built to use techniques as Asian built is smaller so taking the time using the closer range weapons could reduce the harm from the bigger puncher.

[@KevinMartinez-]

Haha RWS is just a corrupt as One Championship and the ranking, scoring and matchmaking in RWS is absolute garbage. I am starting to write and tell people if you want to watch Thy Top 110 Pound For Pound Yod/Nak Muays In The History Of Muay Thai Fight in a Grandmaster Technical Fight were Gods to Titan Warrior Men compete, then watch The Silver To Golden Era Muay Thai. This current Era of "Muay Thai" is absolute garbage/amateur compared to the Silver to Golden Era of Muay Thai.

[@bl-nb8fo]

​@@KevinMartinez- Someone who gets it

[@thomas_walker]

one muay thai is mostly just brawls. that's fine for a while but i wanna see actual kickboxing matches sometimes. even rodtang vs superlek was a sloppy scrap

[@sociallypatterneddefect9580]

What? Not at all it's high level chess

[@thomas_walker]

@@sociallypatterneddefect9580 it absolutely is not

[@sociallypatterneddefect9580]

@@thomas_walker do you trian Thai Boxing or martial arts?

[@leonardomarquesbellini]

It's a game with different winning strategies from traditional Muay Thai, but far from being an uncoordinated brawl.

[@bl-nb8fo]

@leonardomarquesbellini It's still brawling, period. And more sloppy compared to the brawls of golden age.

[@freyafoxmusic]

Obviously it hasn't. Tons of traditional Muay thai still available and I watch it all the time live in Bangkok lol. Rajamdern RWS, and Thai Fight Night etc. And TRADITIONAL Muay Thai has no boxing gloves.... its just taped knuckles.

[@CalebAdams]

I personally love it! I find ONE fights to easily be some of the most entertaining fights I’ve ever seen. I wish there was more clinch but I like that boxing is just as rewarding as kicking under the ONE format. They can actually be damaging, whereas with the traditional gloves it seems that every other striking method is more effective than boxing.

[@Team_Pinky_Muay_Thai]

It isn't Muay Thai, so I just act like it doesn't exist. The broken hands which so many fighters are suffering from, should be enough reason to change the gloves. One won't last

[@paparadeliko]

The smaller gloves are a disaster for fighter's health. At least let them clinch until someone breaks free, not after 2 seconds. Or 5 rounds so they don't sprint so hard n have to be more technical. I am against it overall. Ur forced to take so much damage and if u try to avoid it by clinching u get punished.

[@prostriking]

Ye I think the long term reprocussions won't be seen for a few years but it could be bad. I feel like the rules encourage targeting the head a lot more where as in traditional muay thai the targets are more spread because body kicks and knees are highly rewarded. I think fighters careers will be drastically shortened having a lot of fights in ONE but if they can make 10-20x more money then it's probably worth it for them

[@paparadeliko]

I believe that too. More money makes it okayish. BUT if the thais don't evolve and adapt to these new rules, they r gonna go back to their countries making even less after they get wrecked in one by the 4oz. Just like it happened with many of them, brutal kos. Then they lose that status and respect of "being the best" with their national titles as in a few years they won't mean much. If they adapt n improve their boxing they can reclaim their thrones

[@yeetusdeletus9]

Smaller gloves cause more superficial damage: cuts, bruises etc and the risk of eye pokes which suck. But bigger gloves are worse for a fighter's health. They dont cut the fighters as bad, but they carry more weight and momentum with the bigger gloves, causing more unseen brain damage

[@hasanagic96]

​@@yeetusdeletus9i disagree. Both are harmful but smaller gloves do more damage to the brain as well ,not only superficially. Imagine if boxing was 4oz gloves 12 rounds. All boxers would be done within 3 years in their career

[@keithprice1950]

I've not even watched the video and the answer is NO. ONE has elevated Muay Thai.

[@tedicombatteam3665]

When I fought again this year in Thailand I explained to an One representative that in my contry (Romania) trhe premium sports channel(pro arena) is showing One Fc instead of Ufc. One Muat Thai is different from the original muay thai(no better, or worse, just different), but is a great promoter of muay thai worldwide, even in my country where muay thai is not very well known

[@undesignated3491]

Its not ruined anything its simply another promotion that will do its time before people get bored. If you want to see Real Muay Thai travel around Thailand to some of the smaller festivals, its all age groups, some of the moves for guys in their 60's puts me to shame at 38. People do it to earn extra money, you will notice that a fighter who has a busy schedule will save their body, they wont put everything into all fights, its a pay day and probably gambled on a round.

[@mpforeverunlimited]

The gloves are actually more classical. The big gloves were introduced around a hundred years ago to make it more palatable for western audiences. Before that it was rope or bare knuckle. Muay thai has been contested for hundreds of years

[@RichieHardcore]

I like One but yeah, I agree it's taken away some of the elements of the sport, which are really beautiful. All the Europeans with massive weight cuts just knockin out the Thai's due to size and strength rather than a skill game takes some of the beauty of the game away.

[@Nolan-xr8tq]

Wouldn’t this make One Mauy Thai just Kickboxing with 4 oz gloves? I thought what made mauy thai unique was the clinch work and how little the early rounds and punches weigh on the scorecard. Please someone correct me or help me understand, I’m struggling to understand what makes this Mauy Thai and not kickboxing.

[@stephenrazo4967]

I see it as a lease on life. It’s not exactly how it wants to be presented, but it’s essentially their one big shot at keeping eyes on it.

[@cynot71]

Ruining Muay Thai? Far from it. ONE doesn't want to be like another RWS or UFC or anybody else out there. I'm okay with them having their own rules.