PS Audio's dream speaker project?

[@scottriedesel]

Can we just talk about that amazing room treatment? Often the most overlooked part of our hobby 👏🤩

[@stimpy1226]

To me this video is more about Chris and rightfully then the actual speakers. Paul’s got an incredible designer who created these babies. Bravo Chris!

[@kevindeem7174]

Thanks for your videos, Paul!❤️👍🏻

[@gdownz1044]

I'd love to see an option for cabinet finish other than black or white. I'd gladly pay the price for natural cherry wood FR10s or 20s. 💯 Hopeful thinking. ✌️

[@Mark-lq3sb]

Agreed! I'm partial to Maple. Love the lighter color.

[@kenmcglown6642]

Paul, I very much appreciate you!!!

[@loveDRAGONCON]

Please do it Paul!!!! We all want it!

[@amareshpereira-pu5wp]

Bless you Paul!... this is the best news I've heard from you so far! Knowing Cris has your IRS Betas the PSA IRS would be about 3-5 times (or more) overwhelmingly spectacular for sure! Its also super good to hear he us working on a subwoofer and i hope its one that doesn't have filters to limit the lower rages at least going below 20hz but preferably below 17hz or lesser! Now we can dream in anticipation while you and Cris make the dream a reality !

[@rudolfglaser9664]

Why not 16 Hz? Church organs often start at this frequency and why limit it to this frequency?

[@FOH3663]

​@@rudolfglaser9664 For that matter ... May as well pursue single digits! Seriously though, you really only design target a particular extension when a resonant platform is used, ie., vented, P.R., tapped horn, etc. Although Chris went with a P.R. alignment in their loudspeakers, I've no idea as to the platform he's designing around. For a sealed alignment, there's not really a designed-3dB point ... as it's realistically a sliding scale of variables, room's cubes, dBspl, amplification/box volume ... and driver characteristics. Everything can conspire against you, ... except the room's volume, ie., - Less box volume hurts the extension. - Less power hurts extension. - Lesser driver hurts extension. However; - Less room volume helps extension, via Pressure Vessel Gain Regardless which avenue Chris pursues, their customers are in good hands.

[@juanlopez1364]

I thought that Bob S has the Betas. As an owner of Betas I would be interested to know...

[@soulshinobi]

Very impressive, and promising, that Chris is at least as ambitious as Paul.

[@brianmoore581]

I'm excited to see your subwoofers. I'm hoping for something that might be meaningful to an owner of Revel Salon 2s (like me!) and similar full range or nearly full range speakers.

[@finscreenname]

I think it would be easy for PS audio to do it. Not saying it would be pretty (boxes and such) but to prove the concept. Imho I bet Paul's attitude toward it would be, been there and done that. No reason to go back. Never hearing the V's I would put money on their biggest benefit is being they are floor to ceiling so no zoning. It seems like they can do the same today with a much smaller speaker package.

[@br549-c4q]

I have a CD transport and a preamp, both with DACS. Which DAC is active or dominant?

[@rrd1975]

Please give Chris free rein and let him design a super speaker that can take on the Genesis Prime, Wilson Chronosonic XVX, Magico M9 and other exalted designs. That excellent FR30 can already compete with and exceed much more costly competitors.

[@cunawarit]

I've always wondered about the AC unit in that room. I'm guessing it is turned off for music listening.

[@danieljones8587]

If you build it, they will come.

[@unclewilbur8976]

It’s the 2am Paul video! 😊

[@Spractral]

Toothbrushin time

[@unclewilbur8976]

@ That’s so funny! I’ll stay up until 5 or 6 am way too often. But I’m thinking that I should use the 2am Paul video to coax me to bed. And you remind me to brush my teeth!!! 😀 This could help me improve on my bad habits!

[@kevindeem7174]

Awesome!❤

[@Fastvoice]

My name suggestion: "Aspen Ultimate".

[@ramseyedward7940]

Come on Chris, push, push, push 😮 (Hammond from Jurassic Park 1 movie, if you remember?!)

[@fauguy23]

How about a center channel speaker?

[@FOH3663]

Just use a matching FR30, or whichever model is appropriate. Nothing like matching LCRs.

[@fauguy23]

@FOH3663 currently have B&W 804 we with the HTM3 Center. The PS Audio speakers look nice, but should look to make a horizontal center speaker

[@FOH3663]

@@fauguy23 Nice. I dig the B&Ws. It's challenging to design/build a high-performance, horizontally oriented center channel, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘤𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘴 of the L&Rs. In my HT system, I've got three active Catalyst 12c across the front. They're good oriented vertically, or horizontally (point source from 250hz on up). I suspect the Aspen's planar magnetic mid xover to the woofers at 400hz may be the challenge in a horizontal center channel ... as woofers spread laterally, reproducing 34" wavelengths of 400hz ... can certainly present challenges off axis. Off axis is one of the vital characteristics of a center channel, it's the whole point.

[@fauguy23]

@FOH3663 the good thing about the B&W center is it has exactly the same tweeter, mid and bass drivers that are on the 804 floor standing models. I use the center mostly on movies. But have used it some on multi channel SACDs and Blu Ray audio discs.

[@FOH3663]

@@fauguy23 Exactly That's why I pointed out the challenge with the planar magnetic only covering down to ~400hz.

[@gtric1466]

i wouldn't doubt the sub's go down to like 12Hz.

[@sudd3660]

i hope so, 12hz is amazing. all the fun happens below 19hz :)

[@mihaifogoros3498]

Before that please make an active speaker system.

[@barrymiller3385]

I can't believe that PS Audio aren't already working on a fully active system. "Future fi" is popping up everywhere. Expect to see virtually all the big names with something along these lines by the end of 2025. The smaller "boutique" brands probably won't have the resources to do it. If high end audio is going to expand into the mainstream (lifestyle/aspirational) market rather than the audiophile/hobbyist market it is going to be with these active systems. Just two speakers, two cables, no boxes, no racks, no complicated setup. It may not be for us - but it's where all the big action is going to be.

[@BruceCross]

The concept is cool, but it would be insanely expensive and sell in very low numbers. Economically, it makes no sense for PS Audio. Of course, ultra high-end audio already makes no sense.

[@mightyhail8707]

Translation: not in the next 10 years

[@JingoLoBa57]

In his lifetime…

[@lisagreen779]

The PS Audio BHR if you will.

[@TigraZ]

Wow your systems looking so cool

[@Tsxtasy1]

Call it the RS1

[@djphat1736]

PSR?!? Nah, sounds like Pisser. I'm sure it will be amazing.

[@0robbi0]

PSA-RS.

[@joelowens5211]

Create a retro boombox like back in the 80's people carried around with all the eq sliders moving up and down and lighting up and raffle it away.

[@genkifd]

isnt the more that a driver moves generally the higher the distortion? probably totally wrong here

[@PSA78]

It gets increasingly more difficult. 👍

[@sudd3660]

generally yes, but i was thinking why not two half excursion woofers, cone area is more important than excursion, with same displacement. same box volume also i think.

[@PSA78]

@@sudd3660 Cone area comes with its own challenges, like likelihood of more intermodular distortion and weight. I guess space could be added to the list as well, might not go over too well with the wife with large boxes. 😬😄

[@sudd3660]

@@PSA78 you can have cone area divided over two woofers instead of one, same box volume and get the same displacement as one high excursion woofer. that was my point to be clear, that has the most benefits i think.

[@PSA78]

@@sudd3660 Strictly theoretical yes, in more practical terms it would be a bit more complicated as the T/S parameters of the driver would change. This is one of those things that's always looked at while trying to find the best compromise for the project.

[@iainsolly2575]

Is Chris gonna build dual opposed sealed subs? My personal preference. They work exceptional well when placed along a wall as most subs are. Reduces the impact of room effects.

[@oliverbeard7912]

Many of the brands seem to "need" some silly priced speakers to be taken seriously. A fun project,no doubt,but likely to produce something that's out of reach for most people and dare i say true to form for many of the stratospheric models out there,it'll be pretty underwhelming for the asking price.

[@lexv.i.]

Audio hobbyist, I'm not a so-called audiophile. I'm 57 years young with nice audio stuff but.. my girlfriend then says, "Your hearing doesn't seem to improve as you get older, so what's the point?!"

[@gilpatmore4312]

what a cool concept!

[@ofergover2978]

A more pressing market would be active speakers. Active speakers with dsp crossover and multiple amplifiers and PS audio drivers can be amazing.

[@clickbeetle2720]

🖤it's been a long time coming.. I hope I'm still around when it/they hit the shelves becos.. where's the sub.. bub?

[@stevenholquin2127]

It’s 2:00 am I Had My Morning Constitutional 😮 Getting Comfy and Settled in as Pauls Gives Us One of His Signature Lip Smacks Just Before He Starts His Slow Meandering Oozing Oratory on Future Plans of a PS Audio Sub/Woofer As I Drift Into The Beta Stage Semi Lucid Sub/Consciousness Sub/Marine Sub/livion Sub/Blime and Slip Deep Into R.E.M. Good Night 💤

[@stevenholquin2127]

Did Paul Say PS Audio is Coming Up With a Italian Sub Marine Sandwich 🥪 I Just Can’t Wait 😛

[@Mark-lq3sb]

You better like all veggie sandwiches.

[@hoobsgroove]

why doesn't he just do it! you've got all the kit surely he can find the time privately to put it together wouldn't take long. you need to sort out your marketing it's not very good, why won't you at the Warsaw show? didn't see any of your products, one of the biggest shows in the world bit strange.

[@tubefreeeasy]

You need cable risers.

[@tedkay5272]

😂

[@ThinkingBetter]

Gosh...no. But I can sell some pavers from Lowes carefully dipped in the best of audiophile snake oil at US$2000 per piece, if you want.

[@mitchtaylor6512]

It's not snake oil it's something that can be done for almost no money, and there is a measurable difference in capacitance if the audio room is carpeted.​@@ThinkingBetter

[@ThinkingBetter]

@@mitchtaylor6512 I'm sure you are aware that a few pico Farads of capacitive coupling to a low impedance speaker output is not going to impact anything. So what measurable difference are we talking about? It would be quite trivial to measure the delta with or without cable lifters on phase or frequency response. Also, a null test should be easy to do to see the signal differential. I've heard a lot of pseudo science snake oil talk about this topic, but, I'm all ears if you have something credible.

[@mitchtaylor6512]

@ThinkingBetter It may not make an audible difference, but it is measurable, just like the small differences in SINAD measurements of Dac's a certain forum seems to rate one better than another even though it isn't audible.

[@ptg01]

Do an Active Speaker !

[@ThinkingBetter]

PS Audio has the quality of being in-house competent to do both the electronics and speakers allowing for true synergy in highest of performance active speaker with discrete components like mono-blocks directly running each driver at near perfect impedance for maximum control and a super optimized best of audiophile active cross-over to deliver best system performance. It won't be cheap, but on this planet a lot of people have money to spend. Imagine an ultimate PS Audio system at US$500,000. Look at world's most expensive wrist watches selling for millions of dollars. Which has more value? For example, look at the Patek Philippe Grandmaster Chime Ref. 6300A-010 selling at US$ 31 million. I rather spend a tiny percentage on an audiophile system. It might make sense to partner with some high-end fashion brand to get it advertised to those buying private jets, large yachts and million Dollar wrist watches. A lot of brands are defined by their highest-end product pushing boundaries.

[@anonimushbosh]

All that just to stream Spotify via the cleaners’ phones?! Actually I quite like the absurdity of it - but good luck persuading Paul or Chris

[@FOH3663]

𝘈𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘯 𝘽𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙠 𝘿𝙞𝙖𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙙

[@chrisnyc3641]

ARS. Aspen Reference Standard

[@RichTeer]

I like that name! Catchy!👍🏻