PS2 Backup Loading with XEB+

[@sync-on-luma]

Version 2.0 of this plugin has now been released, which has some pretty big changes from whats shown here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGHFoqGlj5ecfpo Parts of this guide are still relevant, but I suggest watching the update video first and referring back to this one as needed.

[@pregifted1591]

granted this could be kick ass if you kept the original ps2 startup intro

[@pedrohenriqueboscofi]

Yea I wish it was utilizing the original graphical interface framework of the ps2 like fmcb instead of something ps3 like

[@pregifted1591]

@@pedrohenriqueboscofi for real, because taking out the ps2 intro just ruins the vibes and what not, ill stick to physical copies

[@Josh-Barnett]

You can

[@pregifted1591]

@ how

[@Josh-Barnett]

​@pregifted1591 I'm pretty sure theres an option at 19:53

[@AstralPhnx]

Fantastic stuff! Hopefully as XEB+ matures this plugin can become a gold standard. The dream would absolutely be something like this that just kicks right off the HDD ahla freehdboot but with the ease of file copying of this. Might be a pipe dream but we can hope! The PS2 scene is doing fantastic atm so who knows! Brilliant stuff!

[@sync-on-luma]

It occurred to me while developing this that it might be possible to set up a hard drive with a small FreeHDBoot partition, and have the rest as exFAT, however I can think of several ways that a setup like that would be likely to fail and I don't think I know enough about the technical side of hard drive formatting to be able to effectively troubleshoot it.

[@matherzinsstuff3410]

OMG, this is insane, congrats for your great work mate!

[@BaconWhippet]

This is awesome to see. I’ll be downloading soon

[@MilerGamer69]

Hello thanks for the work of modding the XEB+, i can't really help you out but you have all my respect and streght to continue this project. I Don't really know why the creatores of XEB didn't release a public version for all people that would be amazing for all people working on the project but anyways, good luck and thanks for everything and thanks for the perfect toturial!!!

[@sync-on-luma]

They actually have released the source code publicly. If you head over to the XEB+ Discord you can find the link.

[@MilerGamer69]

@@sync-on-luma but he didn't release before christmas, imagine if he did release like 2016 or 2018 we had 6 years of developement on that beauty xD, and thanks again for your work!!

[@BenMelluish]

This is amazing. Well done, mate.

[@tnaplastic2182]

Awesome contribution! Thank you very much! How many more new stuff is popping up these days? I mean INCREDIBLE updates! 🎉 WTF is going on? 😅

[@NicoIate]

I was deeply dreading the purgatory part but it cached the artworks of all of the 186 games I had loaded on my HDD in less than 10 minutes so I guess you mileage may vary..? (btw thank you SO much for your work, this was worth all the time it took to set up, godlike work)

[@sonic-san4247]

hey nicolate i'm a big fan of you 😳

[@Sanker1]

youre so smart dude i love this

[@Goveynetcom]

I was just wishing something like this would pop up like a week or two ago, I couldn't even find an example of how the hell to load neutrino with arguments, and I didn't really want to bother setting up a device to network with a PS2 just to load games when using the HDD was possible. So thank you so much for making this and spending some time polishing it to make it really user friendly!

[@enricotb1994]

At the moment I still use OPL, I would like to know if with XEB + it is already possible to start PS1 titles?

[@djdjje]

This looks amazing, thanks!

[@huspsan]

Super tuto, great work!

[@ragenfio]

Amazing! I will definitely try it and since I don't care about the artwork, I prefer an interface as minimal as possible, no purgatory for me.🤣

[@summerleeye588]

this is so cool

[@summerleeye588]

i genuinely cant wait for this to work with mx4iso. this is going to make the ps2 more pleasing to use without rebooting the ps2 just to choose any application

[@BloxyBudgetBuilder]

20:51 XEB+ seems good!, though it lacks the ability to run off the HDD, I have a 50002 PS2 so I can only use the hdd method that it does not support. the usb does make it look laggy in the menu. I think the only way to smooth out the menu is to only use disk art due to the lag of the background. once they fully add HDD as a supported installation method I'll probably give it a go.

[@weewoo-w6r]

i really hope someone takes ps bb navigator and makes it able to load backup games, it would be so cool

[@jp-de1ps]

i really needs some help , i have tried all 3 releases and i cannot get the HDD to be seen by the neutrino , I only have 1 game and created the USB hdd.bat and place in the usb's root , but it still cant see the HDD , OPL see's it just fine

[@sync-on-luma]

Did you pull the CD and DVD folders OUT OF the USB directory, or did you just stick the USB folder on the flash drive?

[@jp-de1ps]

@@sync-on-luma no i did not they are both in the usb folder, i tried to merge them on to the root but it stays stuck on loading config ... BUT I GOT IT NOW

[@sync-on-luma]

@@jp-de1ps That's your problem. The plugin looks in mass:/CD and mass:/DVD for reference files.

[@harrymason6654]

This is beautiful my friend. There's no way to create manually on PC the cache to at least bypass the first long time?

[@bendikinc.4672]

is it possible to force the XEB+ menu to be displayed in 480p?

[@sync-on-luma]

As opposed to 480i? I don't believe that's currently possible.

[@bendikinc.4672]

@sync-on-luma In the opl program, you can select the menu resolution, even set 720p.

[@sync-on-luma]

Okay, and...? XEB+ is a completely different application that hasn't even had a full release yet.

[@legoarmo]

Amazing work, this is very intriguing. I would be very interested in a version that can load from the ethernet port using UDPBD, much faster than MX4SIO on the slim

[@legoarmo]

Would be willing to help you test with this if needed 👍

[@sync-on-luma]

Network loading is theoretically possible, and I have considered it, but I don't have any plans to implement it right away. It's a bit more complicated to get working in terms of both the code and testing environment, so it probably won't happen until I get everything else I want added to this plugin.

[@legoarmo]

@@sync-on-luma Understandable, thanks for the reply and great work once again 👏

[@crashoverride1788]

just use a pendrive or external HD with opl on the router's usb connected to the PS2's internet port and there will be no more slowdown

[@Pmp174]

Could that caching process be done on a modern pc instead of f the ps2 ahead of time?

[@sync-on-luma]

Theoretically, yes. But that would both increase reliance on PC-side software and create more room for user error.

[@samaeldrakul4191]

this looks amazing, subscribed 🎉 does it load ps1 games with artwork too?

[@sync-on-luma]

That's a completely separate XEB+ plugin that I have no direct involvement with.

[@gameNLHD]

i keep getting audio problems on games loading from the hdd (not oem but a gamestar clone) idk if it has to do with that or something else as the same hdd works fine under UDPBD (OPL) so its weird and idk if there is a fix for it outside of getting a oem hdd adapter and the new sata board

[@dedop2477]

Turn on mode 2 on opl, that fixed all my problems

[@gameNLHD]

@@dedop2477 thing is i did lots of testing even mode 2 but nothing works idk whats up with it

[@faizMBBS]

Have you test the online/ LAN multiplayer side of those games with that support? Are they working? Especially for private servers/ Xlink Kai setup. And how about Cheats section/ manager? Any GSM support?

[@sync-on-luma]

Any network functions of games should just work. I do not know if there is a way to load cheats with neutrino, but that's something I will look into to see if it can be included in a future release. There is already a standalone XEB+ plugin to change GSM settings.

[@faizMBBS]

@@sync-on-luma thanks for the answer. I pray for this project be successful 🙏

[@hadiaulia]

how do you rename all the iso to look like in the video? oplmanager only support "title id.title.iso" will it work with your plugin?

[@sync-on-luma]

Yes. It doesn't matter where the title ID is in the filename, only that it's present.

[@hadiaulia]

@@sync-on-luma good to know, that one thing that keep me switching from grimdoomer opl fork Thanks, Keep up the good work

[@RIFTERGAMING-lh3co]

Can you do a ps4 dashboard for the ps2

[@Haxmanzz]

Honestly, this looks amazing. I will be migrating over to this from OPL when I get some time. One question I have is "In Game Reset" implemented?

[@sync-on-luma]

Unfortunately not. That's a feature that would mostly likely need to be implemented into XEB+ directly, and AFAIK there are not plans to add it just yet.

[@SkyCladBrent]

Wow this looks amazing. Do you know if it's MemCard Pro 2 compatible? I know they had to put out their own versions of OPL so the card could read the Game ID and was wondering if this just worked right away

[@sync-on-luma]

I don't know much about the MemCard Pro 2, and it's not supported at the moment. According to the manual, there's a standard protocol the Memcrad Pro 2 uses to get the title ID, but I can't find any info on how that actually works or how to implement it. Based on the brief description I read, I suspect implementing it would require either adding a new driver to XEB+ or adding support to neutrino, both of which are outside the scope of this plugin. That being said, neutrino does have it's own VMC support, which is something I've been looking to adding in the next big update.

[@eonsvenfaustino9721]

wow..just wow...i hope there a good news for slim ps2 user

[@belavajda7708]

I would like to ask is it support OPL VMC files/configurations?

[@sync-on-luma]

VMC is a feature I intend to add, but I don't know if it will be the same format OPL uses.

[@leedemeo9503]

bro how do youuse this with retrogem?

[@sync-on-luma]

It's currently not supported. There's a chance I'll be able to add support in the future but I haven't done enough research into how it works.

[@petertdt5670]

Is there a way to boot this from the HDD instead of a USB Drive?

[@sync-on-luma]

XEB+ can only be loaded from a USB drive currently. It might be possible to use FreeHDBoot in place of a memory card based bootloader, if you can get an FHDB partition to peacefully coexist with an exFAT one. I can think of several ways a setup like that could fail though, and I'm not about to try it for myself.

[@petertdt5670]

​@@sync-on-lumaAlright than, Thanks for getting back to me, very excited to use XEB in the future, best of luck

[@Micro_Repairs]

Looks great! About the artwork caching taking a long time, seeing as you need to keep the list of files on the USB stick in sync, wouldn’t it be possible to generate that cache on the PC side when updating the games list?

[@sync-on-luma]

That is something I considered, and might do down the line. The reason I haven't yet is because 1) I want to keep the setup process as free from PC-side utilities as possible (though that's getting harder to do as I continue to add new features), and 2) Doing the caching on the console minimizes the chance of the plugin crashing due to user error during setup.

[@gameondude726]

Sony: Here is new ps5 pro, you can now play all your games on 4k. Gamers: naah, XMB mod in PS2 😅😅

[@Kraust]

Parse the names and then rename them to a known format when creating the disk structure so that you do not need to walk the filenames at load time.

[@sync-on-luma]

Interesting idea for an optimization. The issue I see with it is that the plugin can't rename files on the hard drive, and both file names have to match in order for the loader to work. What I could do is cache the file names to a list, similar to how I handle title IDs, but that would take a lot of reworking code for what would likely amount to a minor reduction in startup time. I'll keep it in mind though, and maybe add it somewhere down the line.

[@raphaelph52]

1:50 I don't know if this is useful to you, but ps3 has something similar called ps3loadx

[@Electro096]

What's the arc password?

[@sync-on-luma]

It's in the included license file.

[@akilluminati47]

W

[@samfadel4997]

ps1 games working ?

[@sync-on-luma]

There's a separate POPS loader plugin for XEB+

[@AmbientMess]

Gonna be that niche guy and ask if this works with the PSX DESR? Yes I know there another person whos release an XMB manager of sorts for it but cannot get that to work worth a mofo! Thanks

[@sync-on-luma]

You're not the first person to ask about it. To my knowledge, there's no way to get it working with the PSX hard drive, but it may be possible to use the MX4SIO or memory card loaders. I have read one report that XEB+ behaves weirdly on PSX, so your mileage may vary.

[@jabahuntercrypto]

Wow

[@niamhrz]

this wasnt a joke it was real? I read about this like 8 years ago maybe 10 i swear. it was speculated as fake in the article i thought this wasn't real..! also did you just single handedly dethrone opl?

[@sync-on-luma]

Yup it's real. I believe it restarted development several times. I remember first hearing about it around 2017. Every couple years there'd be a development update and a couple new screenshots followed by radio silence, up until the preview build dropped at the end of 2021.

[@niamhrz]

WILD ahahaha maybe i misremembered it coulda been 2017 i read, i thought i was in highschool when i read it tho, there was also another called cupymcboot. xmb for ps2 is awesome tho, im a slim user with mx4sio myself atm so ill be keepin watch, ty for contributing to such a cool innovation

[@sync-on-luma]

I think XEB+ was first announced in 2013-2014, I just didn't know about it until later. Also, I don't think I've dethroned OPL just yet, and it certainly wasn't single-handed. I'm just the one who put all the pieces together.

[@niamhrz]

@@sync-on-luma YOU BUILT THE MILLENIUM PUZZLE AND REZZURECTED THE PHAROAH YU GI OHHHHHHHHHHH

[@RIFTERGAMING-lh3co]

Make it that it still play ps2 game discs and still play

[@eonsvenfaustino9721]

can we use this to PSX-DESR?

[@sync-on-luma]

If you can boot XEB+ on the PSX, and the hard drive can be formatted to exFAT, and the drive uses the same interface as a normal PS2 HDD, then I don't see why it wouldn't work.

[@eonsvenfaustino9721]

@@sync-on-luma i have ahh DESR and im not techy so im afraid that i might ruin my console...i am looking for some video tutorial for PSX DESR using ps2bbl...thanks for the reply sir..more power to your channel

[@dumboyeeter4448]

Please add network smb to it

[@sync-on-luma]

Network loading via UDPBD is in the latest version. Check out the neutrino Launcher update videos for details.