PS5 from HELL - Revisit - Can it be fixed this time?

This is a REVISIT on a PS5 that was sent in by Gavin. In the first video I managed to make it turn on to a 2 second blue light of death, when it arrived to me it was completely dead. In this video, after reading the comments and kindly getting spares from Phil ‪@TheCod3r‬ I am going to try again. Will it be fixed this time? Or will it still be the PS5 from HELL.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.

[@Google_Is_Evil]

Phil has a free UART code list on his on his Discord server. Joey does Tech uses it as well. Time to dive into it Vince!

[@amak1131]

Reballing looks like an absolute nightmare, kudos for even attempting it!

[@VVerVVurm]

A+ for effort. Clearly this is not a case of missing skill but missing information. You've gone above and beyond with this one and you have my deepest respect for undertaking such an endeavor

[@matthijsbloemink7849]

It looks like you put the diode on the wrong way.

[@MrMalky1550]

So sad my help didn't fix this for ya :( but at least it found something, you pronounced Mal-key correct, you have utterly made my week with the mention lol :)

[@Pipkins0263]

I love all the my mate Vince videos 🎉❤

[@bryancampbell4604]

When doing those, make sure to put a small layer of flux on the pads that are on the board.

[@Unsocial200]

Before using a srencil apply a light coat of flux in order to keep the balls in place, then use hot air and flux for the balls to sit on the proper place. After reflowing the the chip make sure to remove all flux from underneath

[@rfr653]

Good job mate 👍

[@rory9174]

The diode you replaced was put on the wrong way around. Look at the readings.43,15

[@KorAllRBare]

That Uart actually has received inputs Err-Faults reports from Philip "The Cod3r"

[@Technology-Repair-Druid]

Working on a Toshiba 300CDS/T whilst watching this, contending with a BIOS lock that is about 20+ years old, and I love your dedication, Vince! You handle things far better than most, and your perseverance is admirable! :D Update: I did get past the BIOS lock, and it's finally on the road to being fully functional once again. Definitely one of the most fun repairs I've undertaken!

[@dh2032]

did you win, with the Bios lock? remember Toshiba I got, the end ub shorting out test points in a vent hole on the under side? was a bit disappointed mostly the time and boot drive option list?and adding boot password? but felt lot more mine? getting BIOS screen open🙂

[@Technology-Repair-Druid]

@@dh2032 Still tackling the BIOS lock, but I have a few other tricks to try like a jumper for the parallel port, so hopefully it will be open soon. The seller actually had the laptop gifted to them in 1996, and they don't recall setting a password along with the default being 'Toshiba' not working either. All of this along with the fact that it has pretty huge sentimental value to the seller, so I've been keeping them updated as well. I have a Toshiba Tecra 730CDT, but it is missing the hard drive caddy which is a proprietary design and I may need to make one from scratch to get it working. I'll be sure to update here when/if I get past the lock. :D

[@rdpeake]

One of the things the coder does with these is he will use a PSU to give the 12v to the board, and then he monitors how the current draw happens on first applied (known as a boot up sequence) Depending on how that sequence goes he is making a list of known potential faults linked to them.

[@Ukmartian1701]

Hi vince, I have seen it done with solder paste and a stencil, looks cool when it it heated.. Pretty curtain it was heated before the the stencil was removed

[@mrjsv4935]

Excellent try. Some things just aren't fixable, at least for now. Maybe in the future when there's more information available.

[@CH11LER.]

I think I would have de stressed myself after all that by using the hammer

[@laszlofyre845]

Dynamite, Vince. There's always dynamite. And remember, no sane jury would find you guilty.

[@jackmanatee3162]

OMG, for real? This was so frustrating for you I could hardly stand it.

[@jasonrebello9898]

I think phill has a Data sheet with the codes and meaning

[@milsiart4976]

Next time heat from bottom will do the job...

[@don_pavlov]

Vince don't give up. At least show us the uart output/error codes. It should also be quite easy to use a uart connection.

[@geoffh4578]

you need to add flux when reflowing

[@cliftondavis6520]

done all at the same time by a robotic Arm by brazing or hard soldering at 840°F (450°C) Silver brazing a hard form of soldering with Silver

[@Denisstrix]

I have washt my mainboard from my asus gaming mainboard because liquid Metall flow over the board I washt it with sope and a tooth brush under the shower after that I washt in a ipa bath and it work now very good before had Grafik glitsches

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

So your fans gave you the HTMI socket tester and you didn't use it on the PlayStation?

[@PlanetRuncorn]

your blue tool for re-balling can you not undo the hex keys and turn the jaws around , ???

[@gabe9908gaming]

i watched this chanell 2 years ago

[@devttyUSB0]

Cant say you didnt try! 😅 Great vid, Vince!

[@Lazyman1975]

A piece of thermal pad in the clamp to help pinch it in........

[@Andreas_Straub]

Did you check for the 32kHz oscillator running (near the south bridge)?

[@Vandemonium4u]

Most stressful episode ever 😂

[@Shkafif]

Big fan from India support uh dude

[@michaspruijtenburg5109]

i can feel your frustration. You will not excactly know if al the balls are connected. ps5 are complex systems. many components can fail. I repairing laptops myself. ceramic capacitors and mosfets are a nightmare. can make lot of damage on the dc rail. I do not spend more time on those repairs. i's not word it and de cosumer wil not pay for the time. I yust sell another refurbishd laptop ;)

[@DainSmart-vm7pc]

Not being funny Vince its got to a point things are getting impossible to repair sad i know but true, things are getting smaller and smaller to see, not to worry you have got a RR to keep you happy i would be over the moon with just this project ,if i was your neighbour i would be kicking your door down to help you only Sunday's i work through the week ♥️🇬🇧💂🏻♾️.

[@budgetmerch]

If you had held down the stencil with your tweezers until the balls had started to flow you probably would have got that. Keep trying.

[@TechUniversity1]

Send it over to the coder

[@seanwilson7740]

Send it to coder! See if he can fix it?

[@LiquidSnakeSSJ4]

send this PS5 to Phil

[@RickMahoney2013]

HA HA

[@TermitesRGood1]

Power Supply? Keep it Simple maybe something blew? you never checked that Bad Cap..

[@billyjames9861]

Phil has just repaired a PS5 board with a 1.8 volt issue, and it turned out to be a short detected at the F2007 fuse - The fuse had blown but he injected voltage at a shorted neighbouring component which light up the wifi chip - He removed it along with the module and also had to replace an HDMI IC

[@dr_ned_flanders]

I think that the Cod3r has a good way to reball chips by hand without a stencil, using flux to keep the balls in place and then reflow so they move into position. One of his videos has a complete tutorial about reballing.

[@TheLastPhoen1x]

"Filming just so I have evidence of it blowing up." Now insurance company can't weasel their way out! XD

[@TheCod3r]

Ehhh i got first again 😂

[@Mymatevince]

I hope this one doesn't bring you to tears. You need to do a video on 'PS5 UART for Beginners' Phil (hint hint). Thanks for the package matey 👌👍

[@TheCod3r]

Haha no I'm enjoying it, still watching 😅 thanks for the shoutout BTW. Oh and yeah I plan to do that. I'll be honest though I've been going through a bit of depression so I haven't been recording anything lately. Hoping to get back at it though soon

[@TheCod3r]

Just finished watching the video, thanks again! Glad to at least help you get some experience with BGA. I'll definitely do a walk through for UART to give you an idea where to start (within the next day or so). With this one though, it could very well be the WiFi chip top because the console looks like it's suffered a power surge. I can't remember if you checked that in the first video or not. UART should help though. If not, maybe a collab could be in order? I wouldn't mind the drive to try and lend a hand one day 😉

[@Mymatevince]

@@TheCod3r Sorry to hear that Phil, hopefully it is just a short term thing and you'll be back feeling good again ASAP. I can see how much you work just on KZbin alone (not including your day job) so maybe you need a bit of 'you' time. The constant pressure to release videos can be a bit all-encompassing, combined with lack of sleep from your late nights can take their toll. I haven't touched or looked at the WiFI chip, but you did send me one. Also from memory the balls were quite big on that chip so might be slightly easier to install than the Southbridge. I did have this packed up ready to send back to Gavin, but I may have a sneaky go at the WiFi chip just incase!!!!! Cheers Phil. No rush on the UART video btw, hopefully it might do well views wise for you because I can't be the only curious, but clueless one out there!

[@Mymatevince]

@@TheCod3r I'll keep you posted on progress and then we can take it from there. My worry with this PS5 is the amount of work I have done to it. So many chips have now been changed that I could have unknowingly put faulty chips onto the boards. Unless like you mentioned UART could be the easy answer!

[@BuyitFixit]

Valiant effort Vince 10/10 for trying 👏👏👏 A UART is just a serial port adapter (just think like RS232 apart from usually just 5V or 3.3V). I've used one quite a few times, and most recently when repairing that Avermedia video capture device a few video's back. Keep up the great work 👍

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks Mick, I'm going to get one, they're only cheap and then it might force me to learn how to use it 👍👍

[@BobB-j9w]

@@Mymatevincesend it to tdr repair so he can make a video on it

[@perkulant4629]

Be cool if you could send it to phil to have a crack at, like a colab video or something.

[@robindickinson5376]

No need to apologise for the length of the video Vince - although you couldn't fix the PS5, it was very enjoyable and I learnt a couple of new things. Thanks 👍👍👍

[@hisnameisworthy7886]

Absolutely clickity bait thank him for making 💰

[@dodgydruid]

Nice of Phil to send a care package dispelling the rumour about northern folks being tighter than an Aylesbury duck's chuff underwater... :P I still think that vile liquid metal is driving u nutz m8, abs nasty and I know Sony used it not for necessity but because it will routinely wreck PS5's all year round in the hope that suckers then go and buy another one. Only PS I have here is a battered broken old 1 and my daughters PS2 Slim which she paid £60 for few years back and it came with every PAL issued game for that about a big crate full of PS1 games plus two high end Wildcatz steering and pedals setups and a trainer box full o' controllers.

[@TampaTec]

These games consoles are getting really complicated. Great info here 👍 earned.

[@Mymatevince]

Thank you Paul 👍

[@worroSfOretsevraH]

You should see the software side...

[@andrasszabo7386]

Nice reballing job, Vince :) Maybe you should consider getting an ultrasonic cleaner, to clean all these liquid(metal) damaged boards? Pretty useful stuff, not just for that. By the way, that LAN port does not look great.

[@stevebutters6391]

The diode you replaced, did it go on the right way around, as your leads when testing ended up being the opposite way around ????

[@kdcampo]

i wonder if using an ultrasonic cleaner could help clean the board of the liquid metal. im only 40 min into the video so i dont know if its been fixed yet, but that was an idea i had for cleaning up the liquid metal.

[@hi-friaudioman]

Check for a short to ground on the 1.8v line. It might be a short under the apu.

[@itslegiTim]

Well send the console to Phil then 😂 would be interesting to have an answer in the end 😄

[@Mqqq-l6i]

this is usually caused by a faulty ram chip or an APU issue

[@rsuryase]

Question is can the coder fix it? Send it to him so we can know.

[@jeanrossell8129]

You get no credit in electronic you are or you are not thats the way vince.

[@ralphj4012]

A valiant effort. I'm sure at some point you removed the HDMI port and retested. I know nothing about PS5s (or anything much else) but the fact that all the voltages come up and then the 1.8V (and maybe the 3.3V) disappear, may point to a low resistance or something drawing too much. You can keep paste in the fridge (and your favourite superglue) but before using it again leave it out for at least 24 hours to reach room temperature, as otherwise you will get poor adhesion and sputtering.

[@mrlox9576]

Hey Vince, You did a remarkable job on that reballing given what you had to work with. Definitely a great effort. Just one thing, can you kill that 'haha' sound effect when if fails. After watching you make such a great effort for half an hour, we're all really hopeful for you when it comes testing time. Obviously disappointed when it fails, but the 'haha' feels like a slap in the face. If someone was next to me and did that after a repair unfortunately failed, I'd probably slap 'em. Lol Otherwise, great vid. 👍

[@chriswoolley3159]

Send it to Joey Does Tech and see if he can sort it!

[@CTCTraining1]

Vince ... once you get the Rolls sorted ... .... as part of the closing montage just drive over that cursed PS5 👍😀

[@seesikopter]

Oh no I got spoilers by this comment :(

[@TurkeyBaster007]

Ruined the whole video for me. 😢

[@seesikopter]

@@TurkeyBaster007 same

[@Striker-0G-2]

Check the psu just an idea try swapping it

[@theNeuo13]

use ultrasonic cleaner to clean the board!

[@robalbert42]

Vince , this is the first time ever that I can use the words "amazing" and "what a load of balls" in the same sentence, brilliant, well done food...

[@Pwills]

“Well done food…” lol 😂🤣😂

[@owentait15]

Change over the bios chip

[@orosalsero]

Would be nice if you had a large sonic cleaner, to remove the liquid metal contamination, also have you tried voltage injection and look for any faulty components under a thermal camera.

[@AstrosElectronicsLab]

Whoever came up with that SMD technology of those microscopic solder balls needs his head read. Total, total PITA!

[@hi-friaudioman]

It's also probably missing a power good signal to produce the 1.8v. check for liquid metal under all of the passives, you can check with your continuity tester.

[@microgamingrepairs1981]

@My Mate Vince Look into the uART method of diagnosing faults on the PS5. I have a Ps5 here that was doing this blue light then off problem. UART diahnosed it as a bad ram chip on bank 4. Reballed a donor ram chip and problem solved.

[@dlewis9760]

KZbinr TechTables just a reviewed MinisForum HX100G. The thing has liquid metal in it. The company says, you mess with it, good luck getting your warranty approved. It says they don't recommend you mess with it. If you do, and it looks like you did,.....

[@KorAllRBare]

*Tooth Pick* When a ball is missing on a chip use a Toothpick dipped into flux to prick the spot/s where the ball/s needs to go, place ball/s and heat them on, mind you sometimes it's so much easier to clean both surfaces and then drag a loaded soldering iron over either solder pads "either Chip or the PCB" I found doing the Chip works best, followed by using a heat gun to marry the chip to the PCB, mind you the larger the Chip the less likely it will be a success..

[@paddysfixes]

Hey Vince, at 45:20 as you exchanged the diode next to the HDMI Port, you put it on the wrong way around! I double checked it with the readings, you made earlier on 43:10. Well, I could not offer you any money, but maybe you could review your video on these markers and agree, that this may cause your issue. Worth a try, is it not?

[@snafu2350]

Superglue (& maybe solder paste too) activates from moisture, not heat, so keep it in a fridge because most modern fridges also include dehumidifiers. If you could get a 'beer fridge' that does this it'd be ideal, but failing that, the room taken up in a standard fridge isn't much, so I fail to see where the problem lies, esp if you keep it in a lidless container somewhere.. I haven't yet watched the previous vids on how the HDMI is damaged, but could you swap it out from your sacrificial board?

[@finhas8865]

When you reball the chip using solder paste, you shouldn't pick it up from the metal stencil. Just heat the paste with the stencil(probably why the stencil is metal) and pull the chip after the solder solidify, and reheat it one more time. Also, don't worry too much about solder paste going under the stencil, it'll simply go to nearest pads or solidify that it can easily removed later. Just try to minimize it. I've done this couple of times without any prior experience but some YT videos.

[@SteveRand]

38:10 I feel with liquid metal spills the whole board needs to be blasted with an aircompressor. It gets EVERYWHERE!

[@garry7263]

you need to heat up the whole stencil evenly. Just heating the middle will make JUST THE MIDLE expand. Heat it evenly all over. All stencils will buckle if oyu heat only one small area

[@ConsoleTherapy]

Hi Vince - well done for keep trying at this one, I admire your patience! When the green PCB overlay lifts like that under the Southbridge (on your second attempt with the Southbridge Phil sent you) it can be very difficult to stop the solder balls flowing along the exposed traces, even when using solder/PCB mask like you did. There was a cluster of trace exposed in the middle during your second attempt, and as you say, this area might have caused a number of solder balls to be pulled away from under the Southbridge - at a guess this might be why the LED is now not showing. Anyhow, great video and if you need any help with UART, feel free to get in touch - I recently posted a video using UART to repair a PS5 with a 2 second BLOD.

[@MikeB_UK]

Don't beat yourself up. You did everything you could. Remember these are insanely complex with something like 10 layer PCBs that could suffer from internal track fails, shorts, etc. As you say until there is the equivalent of a plug in car diagnostic tool then the blue light of death should probably just be avoided as it will just drain your sanity. Great effort and the reballing was epic! Well done.

[@wisher21uk]

Well done for trying Vince, I saw something once where the wi-fi module was causing a problem once removed it was ok

[@Holycurative9610]

Joey does tech has used UART on a couple of PS5's and (I think) Phil has a list of UART codes on his discord or website.

[@MikeG-rh1lk]

was looking at a xbox one x board around the retimer, checking one of vince earlier videos he was checking continuity from the filter to TDP158 but I tried the same and nothing is that because of short on the board?

[@darrenconstantinou6010]

How many people are going to now put their hands up for Vince to continue fixing this PS5 🙋‍♂️🤣

[@dvdmike007]

My first one had this, it lasted 4 hours from new. I wondered if it was the pioneer amp I routed it through or the powered HDD I connected to it with my PS4 games on, so the one I have now I didn't do either of these things

[@TheSkaldenmettrunk]

This PS5 clearly comes from hell.. after one hour of revisit this stubborn thing still won't work.

[@MRMichaelDeaver]

Can you give the ps5 to TheCod3r he can fix it for you :)

[@andyroberts9562]

Great job on the reball without a correct stencil, as a complete amateur myself i tried to reball the cpu on my launch day ps3 that had the ylod fault, reballed it put it back on but didnt fix it so binned it all, with future info thats now come out wish i waited and tried the tokins first but hey ho hindsight is a beautiful thing

[@Lazyman1975]

Got an xbox 360 e slim. On back of the board almost every capacitor is shorted right behind the APU. Im thinking apu is shorted. In your opinion is it a bleak outcome?

[@Holycurative9610]

If you move/wave the hot air around the chip when you reflow it will dance in place when the solder melts which is better than giving it a nudge.

[@davenuremberg]

When you replaced the diode, there was a reading when you had the black lead on the right....on the other boards you were getting a reading when the red lead was on the right - looks like you may have put the diode on the wrong way around?

[@samyhx896]

Omg PS5 from Hell, the title killed me 😂 thanks Vince for the good laugh

[@enchantededition6879]

Mine wouldn’t boot without those antennas connected. Definitely a different model though as there are four antenna connectors on mine.

[@TheRepeatloader]

the puirpose of the diode is to stop current pouring back from the tv or other units back into the HDMI chip... if that diode was shorted, it prbably had current run back after it was powered off. I would vollow the diode backwards

[@2oo5blackshadow]

😂😂😂😂😂 mate I can hear you're tummy, rumbling. You must have a good mike For me to hear that.

[@thomasdoherty6876]

Would a chisel tip on soldering iron not work to reball using that jig stencil thing? At least just to get the balls to stick a little in place while you put the chip back on the board and use hot air.

[@AnonymousRepair]

👍👍👍👍

[@gendragongfly]

The solder on the chip was probably low temperature solder so it flowed onto the solder balls before the balls melted.

[@bovabova8992]

You need to try the UART thing vince. I want to see this ps5 fixed hehe

[@adrianbestboy98]

a re revisit will be interesting to see, don't give up on this one until you find the fault

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Once your balls are all over the floor, I'd say no go to fixing it.

[@fosterb247]

Thanks Vince - A rare not fixed but super entertainment 🤓

[@19mati67]

Why are you not holding down that stencil with a tweezer, or something?