PS5 PRO RANT

[@JWAGS412]

If your excited bout the pro thats fine , but imma hold off for a while . I currently just see no need

[@infern209x]

that guy from digital foundry is lying through his teeth, ai image scaling is already on amd with fsr3, also we have amd ai frame generation which doubles and triples framerates, even on 4k with raytracing, so we can have 4k 60 fps no problem or even fps in the 100s or 200s on 1080p or 1440p. consoles don't even have frame generation yet. my rx 7600 outperforms the ps5 already.

[@branmuffin411]

Start saving now for the PlayStation 6 because it’s not going to be cheap.

[@Shatterglass23]

I'm going to say ONE TIME FOR DUMMIES LIKE THIS GUY. EVERYTHING you need to play the games is ON. THE. DISC. COD. SP 2077 and No Mans Sky are outliers. Even without updates and patches. Don't listen to this jackass

[@retrogamerfan123]

If they can get backwards compatibility to ps3 games from this console that would be a definite buy from me

[@ramiyohay7286]

Damn Jwag, I could actually hear Destin heart breaking into two 😂

[@redharrison894]

😂

[@Aqzw]

The limited edition SpongeBob 1 tb series x was 699.99 earlier this year as well

[@JWAGS412]

Forgot all about that lol

[@NintenDan.2005]

@@Aqzw Nah wtf 💀

[@Aqzw]

​@@NintenDan.2005 it had a disc drive but was only 1 tb

[@spectrexr1]

I'm 95% physical and you're wrong. 90% of the games have the whole game on the disc which you can install and play without a patch and offline. Tekken 8. Mortal Kombat 1 gears 5. Resident evil remake baldur's gate 3 Warhammer space Marine 2. I can tell you all digital because you don't know

[@b7ray32]

Discs are archaic .. the PS5 pro is the future. Just embrace it

[@spectrexr1]

@@b7ray32 no they aren't . Lol . Nothing like owning what u buy . Nothing like when Xbox live went down and people couldn't play they digital games I was still playing cyberpunk and robocop no problem lol.. y'all keep talking about the future and digital like the console is PC. Sony already made it where u can't get any game digital but Sony store. Taking people digital content right out they library . Ya I'll take disc Everytime for as long as I can

[@425ivanhoe]

The disc gets copied to the hard drive when you put it in the first time. The disc drive is dormant the majority of the time you are playing

[@jack_knife-1478]

You're right! He's wrong dead wrong!!!

[@krilzlocc1977]

lets not forget that you can re sell your physical copies

[@dantenage9687]

I have been waiting, thanks bro

[@JWAGS412]

Thank you 🔥🔥🔥

[@matthewhardwick8208]

I'm going to be happy knowing in November my bank account is going to be $700 better off than a lot of dummies

[@JWAGS412]

You pocket watching 🤣🤣

[@matthewhardwick8208]

​@@JWAGS412Nah I could get it if I wanted to. But I don't want it. Sony failed to give me any reason to buy it.

[@JWUniverse]

An article said games will still be at 30FPS on PS5 Pro… If the Developers want to upscale them they can but more than likely they won’t. GTA6 may release at 30GPS… Imagine paying $700 for that sheeeiiittt!!!! You know what could have made that $700 Price Tag worth it… If they had put the DualSense PRO Controller in the box! It’s $200 on its own so why not Bundle it with the PRO System?!…

[@s3rv3r3rror8]

Only dumb developers would stick to 30fps after hearing 75% of PS players want 60! It is not the hardware's fault, the pro can easiily do 60fps on ALL games! Yes even GTA 6 mark my words that game will have a high frame rate mode!! Wil it be locked 60 maybe. Wil it be there on release i hope so, but eventually it wil have it! People act as if GTA6 wil be something revolutionary i think it wil be a waaay better looking GTA5/RDR 2 and some better physics etc.... And asking for dual sense edge for that price are you insane?😂 the tech they have put in there is already worth more than 500$ so them asking a meagre 250 extra is very generous. Go build a PC specced to the pro. DF said you need at least a 4070 that is 550 alone now go from there and see where you land😂

[@paulnewhouse5126]

I was actually wondering if you would release a video today, my Spidey senses were correct lol

[@JWAGS412]

Ya I needed to lol

[@devilshooter126m8]

Great video my biggest problem with PS5 PRO, Sony pushing PC

[@Wes-i2t]

There barely putting stuff on pc compared to xbox putting games everywhere

[@devilshooter126m8]

@@Wes-i2t I dont trust Sony Im looking at them with Hawk Eyes

[@allhandsonsteamdeck1440]

I don't know why all these console ponies always say it's so expensive for a PC I play all of PS5 exclusives on a steam deck and they play great Ragnarok drops in a few days 😅😅 if you want to be taken advantage of paying for online gameplay 70.00 games and peripherals that cost $100 then you deserve it 😊

[@krilzlocc1977]

PC is overrated and no one wants to wait 2 years to play PS exclusives on PC when the better version is on PS5

[@allhandsonsteamdeck1440]

@@krilzlocc1977 PC has soo many games to play Xbox PC ps and emulation we don't wait for anything we can play all platforms and PS5 has no games 4 tears later 😂😆😂 now they want to sell you a pro 😁😜 sucker

[@allhandsonsteamdeck1440]

@@krilzlocc1977 too bad you sony won't allow you to play ps 1,2,3, and 4 games but I sure can on PC mobile too 😂😆😂 consoles died with covid buddy

[@krilzlocc1977]

@@allhandsonsteamdeck1440 your comment is asinine, I didn't buy a PS5 to play PS1,2,3 and4 games. You're a wanna be PC gamer bragging with little handheld device, step your game up and get a real PC, then you can talk to me!

[@krilzlocc1977]

@@allhandsonsteamdeck1440 Stop lying I own a PC as well clown, PC is highly overrated!!!! furthermore why are you on a PS5 channel bragging about your little low budget handheld PC?

[@425ivanhoe]

THANK YOU for being one of the few addressing how the disc drive only serves as a license key. Consoles these days play off of the hard drive. I can agree for the hard copy individuals, I used to be one too. But for gaming in general, a disc drive is no longer necessary.

[@JWAGS412]

Ya I don’t understand how people don’t understand that lol , pretty much from the ps4 onward physical is useless besides Nintendo I guess but a lot of those games require a partial download as well

[@chasch333]

As far as I'm aware Sony still provides full game data on disc and always have. I can promise you when I do buy Astrobot it will install everything from disk. Yes obviously the games play off the hard drive but that data still needs to come from somewhere... in Sony's case, the disk. Only Xbox and some third party use the disks as a download key.

[@krilzlocc1977]

the huge difference between owning a physical and digital copy of a game is the fact that I can sell the physical copy and use that money towards a new game

[@ovemalmstrom7428]

The problem with digital games vs physical games on playstation is the price difference. Astro bot on launch digital = 900sek (88usd), physical in store = 649sek (64usd)

[@lewie8487]

My only gripe with digital on Playstation is the return policy. If you had under 2 hour playtime return policy like Steam I wouldnt mind as much.

[@JWAGS412]

@@lewie8487 ya true ur basically stuck with the game if u buy it unless it’s a mass technical problem like cyber punk . Steam has the best return policy out there no questions asked lol

[@therandom_dude]

Just so you know in the EULA agreement that you agree to on PlayStation services if you buy a digital game, they are well within their rights to not allow you to play that game ever again as in take away the license and access from you, it's legal, it's one thing people who swear by digital don't know but that's a major reason why people stick with physical, cuz not only did they do something like that before with digital video sales. They can take away access to content. Again its In the user agreement. What would you do if Sony happened to take away access to all the games that you bought digitally, take an L???

[@JWAGS412]

@@therandom_dude if they take it digitally it still ain’t gonna work with a disc ….

[@Zortec]

I disagree with your take on Physical is dead part. So many ps4 games you can not buy digital anymore anywhere but I got it physical and i can still play them on my PS5. Also having the Physical option over physical is prob one of the best part of having a console over PC. I would happily pay 2x for a physical game over a digital (funny thing is i get physical games cheaper than digital). Because I value having control over my ownership of games rather than relying on untrust worthy companies who from a flip of a button could delist your digital game or have it taken down. Digital games can be removed off your ps5 storage at sony's discretion if they really want to. PS5 Pro not having a Disc drive is a big slap in the face.

[@TheSupahemi]

You make a good point about if base Ps5 will hold back Ps5 PRO. I think they will make the same game as in scope but.......have settings raised higher on the PRO. That's just my opinion.....but I'm day one on the pro

[@chasch333]

No it won't. Base PS5 is still very capable. Currently PS5 games have a Performance mode ( 60 fps with reduced detail ) and a Quality mode ( 30 fps with high detail ). All the pro is going to is enable you to have the 60 fps from Performance mode as well as the high detail from Quality mode together. They aren't necessarily now going to develop an extra 'Super Quality' mode or something just for the pro.....the high detail settings are already there. If these high detail settings happen to contain ray tracing, then that will just prove to be much less taxing due to the new tech in the pro. That in conjunction with the beefier cpu and upscaling tech is what will ensure that smooth consistent 60 fps is maintained with all the bells and whistles of quality mode. Well, that is how I view things anyway....

[@tarheelpro87]

$700 for the same promises given at the PS5’s launch. I’m certain this will go well.

[@TheBatosai]

I'm buying the pro, just as PC gamers buy 4090s and some. The upgrades are subjective. Alan Wake 2 and FF Rebirth are awesome to get new upgrades. I look forward to a Wukong update. Now the stand is bs, but complaining about the disk drive being sold separately for $80. People! you don't have to buy the drive right away and you can always sell your PS5 if you already have the OG disk drive.

[@JWAGS412]

Not knocking anyone who is buying it , I’m just scorned and don’t see a need right now . That could change quick though , personally idk why we are still using discs lol

[@narutomaster500]

I am not buying the pro or a ps5 because what's the point? I don't feel like buying a PS plus membership just to play online plus paying the internet bill, because on pc mostly alot games going to pc anyways plus with mods, I Stopped using a PlayStation because I don't see any point of it anymore.

[@SIPEROTH]

@@JWAGS412 We are using disks because some us care about our rights of ownership more than just our convenience. Many of us that shout in favor of physical isn't because we just love inserting discs and looking at them but because the physical gives you rights over the copy of your game you will never get with digital. You could be playing online and some dude gets annoyed that you killed him and report you as a cheater and get your account banned and suddenly they just take away thousands of dollars worth of games and leave you with nothing. Hell we had people losing digital games out of their library by mistake just a while ago. No Sony or Microsoft exec is gonna come into your house to take your disks. On top of that you can always resell your copy of a game so is never completely wasted money. Not only that but you can actually give it to a friend to play something you can't do with digital games unless you give him access to your whole account. Also it stops developers and publishers from changing your game. We have seen games get a new version or get censored etc and the developer just forces a patch of you and the game you loved is gone and you want to go back but you can't. Another thing is that if you want to play a game and they just delisted it from the store etc then you can't play it. It's gone. But if it had a physical version then you can get it. So it gives you access to games they made disappear. Lastly this physical games help from game preservation. Because they exist people can always get the rom out of them and have them on the internet for download decades later. And don't even get me started on pricing. Old physical games go cheap after a while and stay cheap. I bought many physical for 10 and 15 and even 5 brand new. Not to even mentioned getting used. With digital you have to hope there is a sale for the game you want otherwise is always 50 or 70 and on top of that if even the physical games disappear that act as competition since consoles have only one digital store then good luck getting discounts. They will be even more stingy. You will wait a whole decade and the games will still be 70. Convivence has a very heavy price and you people don't realise it. and this applies for much more than gaming.

[@holamoco]

It's day one for me ❤

[@GerudoRamirez]

Agree with the concern for sure I’m 100% confident that Sony first party do what the pro is offering but third party? That’s a gamble. Yeah alarm bells that we only got old games. 😅

[@branmuffin411]

Sony has always sold consoles at a loss, in order to attract people to their platform. They make profits on game sales, and the cost to make the hardware normally decreases over time, making it gradually more profitable. However this time it’s different. Even after 4 years the PS5 is still expensive to make, and it’s not going to get much cheaper. Sony is not making much money on hardware sales. Second, the console market is not growing. The PlayStation 2 sold 150 million units over its lifetime, while the PS4 sold only 100 million. And half of PS4 owners still have not upgraded to PS5. They aren’t attracting enough new players to the brand. Third, games are more expensive to make and they can’t make as many as they used to. So selling the console at a loss in order to drive game sales isn’t working so good anymore. In order to make more profits, Sony need to sell more consoles. So they need to sell to existing PS5 owners. Selling the PS5 Pro at a loss doesn’t make sense. Any PS4 owner who hasn’t upgraded yet because of the price isn’t going to pick an even more premium model. So to make money Sony need to sell the PS5 Pro at a healthy profit. Hence why it’s going to cost around $1000 in Canada. However very few people will buy it because it’s not much better than the original.

[@alostcause4035]

The ps4 has sold 117 million. The pro is like $959 in canada which pretty much matches the u.s. price of $699 when accounting for the exchange rate. I agree that sony isnt going to sell the pro at a loss. They never sell their mid gen refreshes at a loss.

[@retrogamerfan123]

I don’t care how people spend there money to me the ps5 pro is cool n all just not for me they should of shown off a brand new game like uncharted 5 or something to show off the power of the console instead of screenshots in the meantime I got visions of mana and astro bot to attend to

[@craigfletcher-zn8kl]

physical is king,its not just a license it's a tangible asset you can trade sell borrow etc and lets not mention price gouging. An all digital future is a very bleak prospect for gamers.

[@NintenDan.2005]

Bro, you've gotta do a video on Dustborn 😂

[@Tubes78]

If 699 is OK for this, then a PS6 for 899 should be fine too, seeing how it's probably going to be way more powerful. PS6 pro 1099.

[@pb2325]

In Japan this costs me basically 11 hundred. Ain’t gonna happen anytime soon. If I had the a tv to take advantage then I’d consider it. I think gta6 might push me to buy it if the base model can’t run it well. As for the disc drive… those days are over.

[@ministermadden]

They could have at least gave us a disk drive with the console

[@alostcause4035]

I think thats the one legit criticism of the pro.

[@POPCITY901]

I don't own a PS5 so I''ll probably pick one up online

[@Aqzw]

This is why Sony needs compitition

[@Roberto_Marx]

They have competition you can buy a series x for 600 a series s for 300 another Xbox for 500 a pc handled for 800 or a pc for 2000 dollars. You can also buy a Nintendo for 200 300 or 350. You can buy a ps5 for 450 or 500. You can also buy a ps4 or ps4 pro and xbox one or one x. I guess lambo shouldn’t make cars because YOU can’t afford it. lol 700 is great price for what you get.

[@Roberto_Marx]

You can cloud game. You can buy a firestick and pay for gamepass. You can sign up to Nvidia. You can plays game on mobile etc. there is plenty of competition. You just don’t want to play on those other platforms. Better your save your money or stay on the console your already on. lol

[@quaquazzy]

@@Roberto_Marxlmaoooooo nahh you just broke down the whole market 🤣🤣🤣 finished bruh 🤣🤣 and ppl say it’s no competition💯

[@JWAGS412]

@Roberto_Marx I don’t have a problem with the price

[@quaquazzy]

@@JWAGS412 me neither lol Day One 💯

[@buddyhall5330]

Some ppl have to wait and see ....we know, that's why they held up all 1st party stuff...by the time you figure it out...that pro gonna be sold out for months

[@malikgod]

is still a PS five same hardware inside the disc less ps5. hardware that was outdated when it came out .the hardware is at least a decade old. there’s no reason for it to be$700. same cpu/gpu from 4 years ago! how is it more expensive?

[@alostcause4035]

The gpu is the rough equivalent of a 4070 according to df. That would cost $550 just for that piece of hardware. Also, not the same hardware. Its certainly not overpriced.

[@malikgod]

​@@alostcause4035 df are whores. it's a larger version of the same gpu/cpu currently in the ps5."4070" its not even a 3060

[@jman3657]

it is a high price for a console that has no disc drive and no vertical stand. and then the disc drive is 80 dollars and you also dont know for sure what youre getting with the ps5 pro because it hasnt come out yet. also youre being a liittle dishonest about physical games.

[@spectrexr1]

$700 definitely too much when you consider what you actually getting. And let's be honest if the developers don't put that stuff into the game, it's not going to have it. They can boost up the resolution and leave the frame rate at 30 frames per second and says PS5 pro enhanced. So you pay $700 and still playing at 30 frames per second? I don't care about what technology in it if I can't see it on the screen and we don't even get the tech that's in the current consoles on the screen. We still playing PS4 and Xbox One games. It's definitely not worth $700

[@romaine3642]

It’s expensive dude a stand that’s the lease no hard drive is a blow but want us to pay $700 for little bit of upgrades

[@JWAGS412]

No hard drive ??

[@NintenDan.2005]

Idk man, I'm deffo not buying this but people need to stop acting like the PS5 Pro is the worst thing to happen to gaming.

[@JWAGS412]

Agreed

[@alphonsejohnson5601]

I Agree,I'm sticking with Nintendo, It's cheaper. But, on the other hand, I see why people are so against the ps5 pro. It's close to $1000 when you consider getting the stand AND the disc drive to to go with it and not only that, But there's BARELY any games for the base ps5 and Most of them are basically just interactive movies. Then the presentation just shows the same old games that people already bought on the pro instead of new games.

[@Sir_glizzius]

It's not that it's the worst thing to happen but it sets a standard like xbox did with xbox live we still getting charged to use our internet to play games on a mini pc is wild so what will future console prices look like. Also when consoles are out overtime they go down in price but the series and ps5 have not gone down in the last 4 years and specifically the ps5 price has gone up in multiple places so it is bad tbh.

[@s3rv3r3rror8]

​@@alphonsejohnson5601A nintendrone talking about high costs now i have seen everything😂 Man you guys have been fingersnapped one to many times by Nintendo, they have been charging you guys for hardware that only runs dancing flowers out your buttholes and don't forget the CARDBOARD lmao😂 Nah bro pipe it down you have no business talking about high prices! Stay in your lane!!

[@liolyne]

People say that it would cost more to build a PC. While it's true, a PC allow you to do other stuff but also get cheap game with massive deals and no online fees. On the long term, the PS5 Pro is more expensive.

[@lucbauer]

No other console generation had the best advertisement for building a PCs than this one

[@malikgod]

Why is it not a bad price

[@Joker-jg4vd]

I’m getting the pro 🤷‍♂️

[@JWAGS412]

It’s ur money hope u enjoy it

[@NOCAPPODCAST]

Always keeping it a buck, thats why I fucks with you wags.

[@JWAGS412]

Appreciate that man same to u

[@ChariotManGaming85]

Oh yeah. I know this is going to be a good one Lol!

[@JWAGS412]

Whatttt up bro

[@daverock9091]

its been awhile bro

[@lincolnklayvr]

Xbox Sparkle X 😂😂😂

[@alanazargushasb8557]

It totally is too much money for this console, why? You can not controll the graphics like you can on pc. You are in the arms of the developer and their mercy. On pc you can tell the game to run at 4k with ray tracing and you are strong enough your pc will do it. You can not go to the graphics settings on the ps5 pro. You can not order it to bump up the visuals (besides 2 modes usually). Ps5 pro is like having a million dollars but forgetting your debit card. On the pc I can upscale and enhance every game with an increase in hardware. No so with the ps5 pro! You are paying for pc level hardware without getting pc level graphics (except for some games, probably not much). If the developer does not care to upgrade there game then you get NOTHING! For $700.

[@DETRACT0RD00M]

No physical NO FUCKING BUY.. sorry, but I want to OWN MY FUCKING GAME..

[@retrogamerfan123]

Lmao the new engine for halo won’t change the fast it’s still the same 343 team under a new name on top of dei hires it’s gona flop so hard

[@allhandsonsteamdeck1440]

Stop lying buddy its not 700$ its over a $1000 if you want a stand if you want a disk drive that alone brings it above 810$ before taxes then if you add taxes its 900$ us add an extra controller if you dare and its 990$ us after taxes you must be the biggest suckers to buy this 😮

[@allhandsonsteamdeck1440]

If you would pay 700$ dollars for a game console I got some land on the moon for you to buy as well😅😅😅

[@JWAGS412]

I said with a disk drive and stand and tax it’s almost 9 in the video dumb fuck

[@lSeKToRl]

He has to be paid by PlayStation. A PS5 is a 4070??!! My 3080 is better than the PS5 Pro.

[@alostcause4035]

According to digital foundry themselves, the pro is roughly equivalent to a 4070. Ill go ahead and trust the actual experts.

[@jack_knife-1478]

You're wrong about physical games bro! Dead wrong!!! Nothing wrong in liking physical..

[@keithmccloud1828]

No disk drive no thanks .

[@pb2325]

Where you been at??? Xbox out there failing all over itself.

[@JWAGS412]

@@pb2325 that’s all they do lol

[@buddyhall5330]

Ha ha ....destin looks silly as hell...as usually. Ps5pro is well worth it, if you can afford get it... Xbox has no improvements for 599.99 that's Sony's competition ...Sony has refub ps5 for 350, new digital 400, disc 500. Top machine 700....get in where you can...or go pc/xbox

[@asdf_asdf948]

If you played any of the recent Final Fantasies you KNOW why the ps5 pro is needed

[@RBFR01]

Modern gaming sucks period.

[@NintenDan.2005]

Xbots be like: 'We can charge alot for a console, but if you do it, you're an evil and greedy sinner!'

[@aceoseven2073]

WHAT IT DO CHIEF! I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS BRUH. $700 IS KINDA STEEP BUT FOR WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IN THE PS5 PRO, THE TECH AND THE FUTURE-PROOFED FEATURES, $700 IS A FAIR ASKING PRICE. BUT MY ISSUE IS THAT THEY COULD'VE PUT THE STAND IN THE BOX OR AN EXTRA DUALSENSE OR AN EXTRA SET OF PLATES (some black Ones) OR SOMETHING! SHIT, THEY COULDA EVEN PUT A 12 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION CARD IN THAT MUTHAFUCKA! $700 IS A PREMIUM ASKING PRICE SO THEY SHOULD'VE PUT TOGETHER A PREMIUM PACKAGE, YOU FEEL ME G? REAL SHHPILL MY NIGGA. GOOD VIDEO DAWG 💯 KEEP ROCKIN" OUT FOLKZ 💯✌🏾❗