PSO2 New Genesis in 2024.. is Absolutely NOT What You Expect

[@coldup4590]

To describe PSO2NGS, as it is now. Its a lobby fashion simulator with great action combat but with unrewarding events and content hence there never being much to do. The community as you can tell is dedicated and I mean VERY dedicated. Not to mention getting into the game as a new player is never really that hard compared to some other MMOs. Despite how grim the state of the game may seem, the game wont die so easily. Still makes me sad about what it could've been though 😭

[@networknomad5600]

So... what it's always been lmao.

[@XZeroKPS]

@@networknomad5600 haha this is exactly what I was thinking as I read the post

[@coldup4590]

@@networknomad5600 Yeah basically lol

[@Miguel-kw9hl]

Plus Every Month u have a new Weapons when un worked hard for obtain the last month Weapon. 😂

[@Miguel-kw9hl]

​​@@networknomad5600 Nah, PSO2 Only, was better.

[@KyleFreezeAnimation]

I miss how great this game before NGS tbh Really hope SEGA put a lot of work on it but it barely feels like there are any progress There will be new area update but not sure what gonna happen to it next

[@AH-hm2mq]

I LOVED base PSO2 and I enjoyed NGS at launch. I played up till Stia but the lack of updates, dungeons, and improvements in general killed my interest. I really hope they can turn it around...

[@realanalysis42]

Same here - I stopped at Stia because it got boring real quick.

[@SummonSkeletons]

same! day 1 base player, stopped at stia, I keep trying to come back but its so empty! I wish I could relive base pso2 all over again! I have every class at 100

[@khahlis]

@@SummonSkeletons bruh i got into pso2 when it came to NA, man that was prolly the 3rd most grinded game ive ever done, like 300+ hours in 1 month. the game had me hooked. all was good until ngs dropped then base pso2 didnt feel the same imo

[@Fairygelic]

I purposely stopped playing the game for almost 2 years bc I thought when I came back it would have way more content for me to enjoy. But no it’s the exact same game as I remember back in 2022 💀 how disappointing

[@FantomDeck]

NGS was the Death of PSO2

[@FreeUgcgamecards]

Damn right it was

[@ShinKamaitachi]

Explain to me how NGS is the death of PSO2.

[@Symonne]

@@ShinKamaitachipso2 had a sizeable player base but after ngs with every update the player base keeps dropping so yes ngs is the death of pso2 Even near the end of base game there were alot of players but a lot of them tried ngs and hated it

[@LoneKuroRaifu]

@@ShinKamaitachi They also removed PSO2's stargem earning rewards, basically making the old game pointless to play anymore. I see less players doing the survival modes where you have no weapons at the start now.

[@H0m0f1rST]

I somehow found PSO2 shortly before NGS released. Played it a bit and was blown away by how good the combat was and how much content there seemed to be. NGS releases and after like 50 hrs of playing I've seen everything there is in the game and dropped it shortly after. What a sad letdown.

[@RDFrosty7645]

I recently within the past year started playing NGS and the game has good bones, the world is beautiful, the character customization is top tier, and the combat feels good (to much emphasize on guard counters imo but good). the downsides theres very little meat on the bones very little meaningful content, and too little class depth for both PAs and talent trees. They removed Mags as a mechanic, removed Transformations into fallzspawn, removed just attacks, and there seemingly not introducing chance uniques like lavis cannon, frozen shot ect. It would be great if they made more instanced content like luciel, or the yellow triggers something with meat on its bones. Id love to see them do a remake of Forrest, mines, caves and ruins from OG pso but updated. Maybe bring the casino back from base game, to me it just seems like there's hundreds of ways to add more to the game but the devs are so into making new scratch tickets instead of making good content to put meat on NGS's great skeleton.

[@adamdevereaux2713]

Agree wit’ most of your points. But they have a separate team for scratches. And they’re addin’ other minigames but said they wouldn’t add a new casino.

[@theoaremevano3227]

Yeah, the thing about aesthetic items is a consistent thing dating back to base PSO2. They've always had a steady stream of that stuff coming out which is why the list if items is utterly insane. The content production just takes them a very long time, and implementation of feedback, which has its own dedicated discord, also takes quite a while to have visible results. A system somewhat akin to the Dark Blast mechanic is releasing in a few days. The quests in the new area sound like they'll be instanced as well, but we haven't gotten details about that yet. Also, you may get that classic PSO area remake if the rumors around a PSO remake that came out recently are true, though how far off that is in the future is anyone's guess, leaked info being non-finalized and all.

[@NinTheLost]

It’s sad cause SEGA has enough dev power and money to make this game amazing but they don’t care enough. This is a multi billion dollar company…

[@theoaremevano3227]

@@NinTheLost : Even if they're getting a better sense of where to take the game now, (since this video released) they still need to put more people on it to really get things moving. The new map format and story elements need fuel behind them to really make a difference.

[@Ultima228]

The story is such a mess too, because it just skips you way ahead because they go "oh grind is bad" but then stop you with gear score.... and make you grind for the new gear.

[@MMOByte]

lmao truth. PSO2's story was much better.

[@ikigai9300]

The wasted potential is infuriating, dude. They literally had ps02 as a guide and still fumbled in what should have been the easiest part. Content. I can not believe they are trying, I refuse to believe so.

[@aeroq384]

It's as you say. The game still feels the same because in terms of actual gameplay nothing new has been added. The fun in playing the actual game instead of fashion or etc, is the playstyle and difficulty. Base PSO2 has different playstyles because the expansion of Photon Arts AND the levels of difficulty. They could've added the same formula for NGS because it's fun when you fail with a group and have to try again. An incentive to become stronger. Another thing is being able to craft weapons/armors and work towards it to be rewarded with power spiking. Overall the game has been stagnant in terms of gameplay, but it feels like they can revive the game state.

[@Icu282]

I already said this in a reply to someone too. But reminder NGS has been out almost 3 years now. It took the original PSO2 2 years to release Episode 3. So it is completely fair to expect the game to have at least as good of a structure as base pso2 did up to Episode 3 at this point. (It doesn't, but it's fair to hold NGS to that expectation).

[@SyperDT]

There's a much bigger budget for NG then PSO2 though, plus it's not like there weren't already a lot of systems in place from PSO2 they they can almost 1:1 copy off of.

[@vegitohaze2081]

@@SyperDTdoes it though?? Pretty much all the profit from NGS is used to fund other projects like Sonic Frontiers and such. They really don’t invest much of anything back into the game. The dev team is clearly barebones, it took two guys like 8 months ON THEIR FREE TIME to make the new minigame thats coming out.

[@theoaremevano3227]

Update cadence for NGS is basically something worth spending some time on every two months and literally every in-between month is some event, which is more or less upkeep time for anyone needing work to keep up. Every event changes out the Limited Time Quests, which are basically experiments, which have varying success. When they actually ship out something permanent, it's always vastly more tuned based on how their experiments turned out. Every six months is the target for more significant shifts and the next new roadmap. It takes a long time for feedback to affect the game's direction, meaning they're also planning pretty far in the future, and the game is unlikely to go anywhere suddenly. The weird thing is, the biggest pieces of content tend to take the least amount of time to explain, where all their cosmetic items and little events and punctuated boosts have loads of details to go over. They'll always take a lot longer to show off a few collab items than they do to show something like the Leciel Exploration quest which contributes to a lot of the fun time spent on the game from day to day and gets periodic updates. Oddly this video has come out just before the next 6-month release with an entirely new area, (3 sectors in total) accompanied by new quest and story quest types, updates to Fighter and a new action element (Dark Blast/AIS-like power). The Headline about it is on the 31st. It's hard to say if they have a fully cohesive plan for the game's future or not yet, but June will give some evidence to one side or the other.

[@Raijin_Arlex]

Legend! love to see you review this game, I have been playing for 2 years greetings from ship 2

[@Phlavorhouse]

I still login weekly. It’s just got some fun combat and active players.

[@MMOByte]

Yup! It's combat is where it excels.

[@SnowTerebi]

@@MMOByteAnd phashion.

[@j12k8]

I'm enjoying my time with pso2 classic and ngs. Been playing for a while, and definitely not stopping now

[@NinTheLost]

you still playing?

[@senaxionaria4732]

you still playing?

[@teri.desu.]

you still playing?

[@bacuuyyy]

you still playing?

[@raevenent751]

The thing that NGS has going for is there's not a lot, if at all, any games like it. As for NGS still there doing well.. I mean it is Sega's 2nd most successful free to play title and has been quite consistently, I don't think it's failing anytime soon if at all, they're pretty much gonna run it's course before it's final update like PSO2 lol

[@Stardust_nya]

Errr... well uh about that I checked the player count it has like 1.6 k players daily now meaning that it practically will die at least in the next year

[@johnwong5317]

@@Stardust_nya That's only on Steam. The game came out on Microsoft Store for 1 year before Steam. That means the majority of players are on MS, so Steam is just a fraction of player count. I myself on MS Store as well and so the rest of my guild. It won't die anytime soon, it just has a very small devs team now. However, the the collab is still running strong, so you can expect it will last a few more years.

[@Stardust_nya]

@@johnwong5317 Well I had no clue it had an existance on Microsoft store so hearing this is suprising. But in that case I do hope they do the community right by giving the game more life and etc to keep it going

[@Stardust_nya]

@@johnwong5317 at least for the pc side I mean I know it existed there for console at least

[@johnwong5317]

@@Stardust_nya Microsoft got exclusive deal on theirs Microsoft Store, so people split between PC and Xbox for a years. PC version has bad rep since the way it install on PC is just horrible, but luckily Tweaker came out soon after. Then 1 year later, the game came to Steam and then Epic Store, so probably around 3.5k for these two. They reduce the devs to a small team now, that's why the content is really slow. However, with MARS, Nameless City and recently Tower Climbing are heading to right direction, but it is really slow. However, they really still putting out collab and new fashion each week and I guess they have enough players willing to spend on it. Lots of people spent on Creative Space since it is probably the best player housing system in any MMO so far.

[@swixxclips8759]

They took too long to bring PSO 2 to the west and then released NG which killed it. I grew up playing PSO episode 1&2 on GameCube then played universe and absolutely love the franchise, but NG just did not feel like a phantasy star game to me

[@lsdeann_3293]

Is this game worth playing for its story?

[@dloco486]

I just wish they'd add some new story content, and chapters. The base game itself is very short. The animation is very nice, the fighting and action is nice, just wish they'd add new chapters and stories

[@spark9189]

if you had waited a bit longer, yesterday we got a story update (which was good but way too small), a class update, a new quest type, and some new features that make gearing easier. next week we are getting a sonic limited time quest, week after that we're getting a code;geass collab and an updated, harder version of an existing boss, week after that we're getting a new event with special enemies and lots of drops, and then we're learning what's happening next month and likely a roadmap for the second half of the year.

[@beardalaxy]

new action system at the end of the month, woo!

[@azueschii]

so long ago man, miss that game tbh

[@MMOByte]

Yeah.. shame it never lived up to its potential.

[@chavita8009]

Nice Oreapo profile picture

[@ampota008]

The story of NGS is weak compare to base pso2

[@MMOByte]

Agreed. I honestly prefer everything about PSO2 more except the graphics.

[@theoaremevano3227]

That's generally my biggest issue with it. It reads like a game 'on paper' but doesn't seem eager to stretch beyond that functional setup despite having some solid story elements it could build on. Hard to say if June will show any shift in that area or not. They did edit Chapter 5 heavily compared to their original bare-bones plan for it, and that was a considerable improvement. No idea if they've since drawn up other plans, but I think they need to. It's important for a game to have a good sense of its overall trajectory and artistic vision.

[@lambasted6886]

I actually really like the plot, but the execution with writing and proper characterization of it's supporting cast is so lacking. I miss the care put into trainers and administrators from base game.

[@shatteredsentient5321]

Gril dad ded. Older Gril sees guy die trying to protecc her. Gril sad​ knowing we are all pawns. Big Bad tests our power and dips never to be seen again. Starless are now invading, but they aren't? The threat is non-existent. @lambasted6886

[@theoaremevano3227]

@@lambasted6886 : I said something similar not long ago on a video about Ch.6 I think a great deal of its problems just stem from executing things in a very basic way more often than not. Like they think of what needs to happen next, but not enough about what needs to happen to really 'sell' it to the player.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

TBH the NGS reddit is extremely hot garbage because they instantly delete any thread asking any question whatsoever while barely anyone gives a decent answer, if any, in the question threads so the sub exists purely for fashion and memes, meaning a hell lot of people actually talking about the game don't ever go there because it's utterly meaningless. The rules on this sub are truly insane.

[@gamingcouplelife559]

Absolutely loved PSU. I also logged into NGS recently to see how it was doing and it's still sad to see the state it has been left in. Kind of a miracle it isn't dead yet.

[@bluezhift]

I still have some fun with the game and I hope they survive. Right now it seems that a lot of effort is going into appealing to the players who very likely spend the most money on fashion and player social related content, hence the Creative Spaces. Not a bad strategy to keep the lights on, and who knows, they may be making a killing there. Still, I'd like to see them get back to the main story and related content too.

[@lacqs9129]

I played NGS for 4 months, got bored and tried the base game PSO2 and wondered where are the passion they got on making pso2 on NGS? It's like 2 different devs that work them.. NGS is fun until you hit the end game where you just grind for money and buy clothes/hairs for the rest of your life >_< I wish classes have different builds to mix and match with, I don't know if the casual difficulty bores me or the lack of something to do.. I love the game and the devs are trying to do something but kinda lost too on what to do..

[@SnowTerebi]

Base PSO2 has 8+ years worth of content. But right now NGS does feel like it's not fully opened up yet. We are getting some hints for more serious lore development tho.

[@im50yearsold]

@@SnowTerebi This is cope, sega will never fix NGS all they'll do is release another flavor of aelio and increase the level cap.

[@SnowTerebi]

@@im50yearsold They just released new story with more serious development tho? They are also constantly adding QoL features tho? Not saying they can't be faster, but they didn't stop tho?

[@im50yearsold]

@@SnowTerebi Story continues to go nowhere, years later and it's still barren with no content. have fun with the level cap increase fighting the same enemies youve been fighting since launch

[@SnowTerebi]

@@im50yearsold lol whatever you say bro. You don't even play the game so I'll just ignore your nonsense.

[@purplecube420]

most players are vets to the series, new comers dont stick around as much. our days are numbered but we love the series and are here till the end.

[@purplecube420]

june and july should be decent, theres a new region, solo bosses, and a pvp card battle game (pso1 ep3 throwback)

[@2ant1man5]

@@purplecube420hold up card battle System???

[@purplecube420]

@@2ant1man5 yea looks fun, still curious how we collect cards and build our decks. Be dope if it leads to combat pvp some day

[@2ant1man5]

@@purplecube420 I hope it’s like ep3, bring back the music also lol.

[@purplecube420]

@@2ant1man5 that would awesome, I'm sure they will

[@getoffmyacctf5034]

MMOS NEED TO START INCLUDING MULTIPLAYER STORY COMPAING CUTSCENES.

[@FREESRAF]

Game having large population is different with a game having a community. It does not matter if your game has millions of players, it will eventually die if it has no strong community. Pso2 new genesis may not have outstanding amounts of population, but it defenitely has a very solid and strong community. And for the record, onlineplayers between 2000 to 10000 active, is still decent.

[@Bryophyta]

I don't know if you've noticed but this game is heavily polarized with a big part of the community that hates its current state, and the other that's fine with it and ignores all types of criticism as if only their assessment is the valid one. This is by no means a healthy community if you expect it to grow. Everyone has been discussing over the same points ever since release.

[@MemoryyOG]

a strong community of weirdos and creeps.

[@RedSpiderZero]

Game is such wasted potential its disgusting

[@Reiji366]

I really hope they keep pso2 instead of ngs :((

[@solblackguy]

Calling it a game is kind of a stretch

[@glazedgooch4546]

The best mmo out still.

[@sagenelumbo7183]

​@@glazedgooch4546 Nope... In terms of content and player base, FF14 and most Western MMO are on a whole different level than NGS.

[@gazzy2551]

​​@@sagenelumbo7183ff14 has worst combat in mmo history and it released in 2013. So you are right, it is on different level.

[@HeartabyssKoi]

Considering my pfp is of my PSO2 character, hopefully I can at least say something without getting jumped. I have not logged into this game in months. It is actually a bad feeling that they can somehow design multiple new outfits for new scratch tickets WEEKLY but I have to beg and scream for something enjoyable to do. There is no reason for me to try and make my own fun when the only thing they can consistently bring is more cosmetics. And this is coming from someone that has spent THOUSANDS ON THIS GAME $120 every week for the new scratch to get what I wanted. I do not mind spending in games it doesn’t bother me. But I want to feel like I have more to do than log in and talk to my friends and take pictures. It is very obvious that they did not know what they wanted to do with New Genesis except make it look better and they basically admitted that last year. It’s not even like they haven’t added ANY new content. But everything they added I have hated not because it was too casual or because it was too hard but because the shelf life of the content was shorter than the amount of time it required me to get what I wanted from it. I had to accept the game is simply not for me. Not a Dead game, it is very much alive with a lot of people who make for very nice friends, but the game is not for everyone and that’s okay. And I say this whenever either game is brought up so people don’t have the wrong idea: if you are waiting for Blue Protocol, the end game of both games are roughly the same. The benefit of BP is the story is much longer and for me, more enjoyable and the world is actually very expansive and fun for me. But PSO2 has significantly better combat so if that’s your thing you probably won’t find it in BP.

[@Dregomz02]

Where it's going? Into EOS i haven't played since dec 2021 and it haven't improved much ever since. Shame about my skins i had so many of them

[@_MisterFish]

@2:30 How does your guess at how many players the game have count as "proof" of anything? You saw the 24 peak from steam and just assumed that means "10s of thousands" playing online at any give time?

[@mramisuzuki6962]

The issue is content and the gear is too vertically integrated. They need to make more diversity in the items and how they works with all the content, especially some of the weird mini game like stuff. Also people complaining about the gatcha, you can write to SEGA at anytime to make the game a pay to play game.

[@championredd]

As a new player in this game with about 40hrs and sum lvl 85 classes there just isn’t that much to do in this game apart from grinding fashion from the personal store. When I first started playing I thought the story boss fights would be a sign of better things like raids or dungeons but no it’s just grinding capsules and I don’t like how the just give u the stronges weapons from the seasonal store there is literally no point to getting gear in this game because it’s just straight up weaker then what they give you

[@Reiji366]

2.3k hrs in. so its still the same back then thanks, welp I'm not returning, maybe if things change I might go back xd

[@mramisuzuki6962]

All the super hard bosses can be played endlessly and the UQ at max level can difficult.

[@flameninja_]

This was a fair analysis of the game. I recently fully broke off of this game because of how little of the content available is actually important. It's not fun to chase gear anymore when the only thing you use that gear for is farming meseta or augment materials to make or buy stronger augments and then there's no real point in fighting bosses with that gear since they don't give you anything worthwhile unless you wanna farm for a rare AF weapon series that is slightly stronger overall than what you have. I loved my time with PSO2 and NGS foe the most part, especially the former since it was my first mmo that I played from release to finish (though it was the global version) and has made me longtime friends that I will cherish forever. It even made me go play previous games in the series (love portable 2 Infinity the most) and games similar to PSO2 in combat mechanics and scope so I got into Monster Hunter and God Eater.

[@theoaremevano3227]

I've love a new God Eater at some point. Monster Hunter's all right, and I have friends that will play it for a while, but it tends to fall off after a while, and I think I'd spend more time with a new GE.

[@crimgrim3786]

Bruh this dude compares everything to BIG MMORPGs, not everything is FFXIV, WWO, or etc. Maplestory is almost 20yrs old but it still popping. You need to reevaluate how you rate a living or dead MMO.

[@leandrocerqueira6653]

I totally agree with you. I play every day and still can't have enough time to complete everything the game have(except dailies,who is what i focus to complete first). *And still having one vantage about the others...your character isn't a prisoner because lack of subscription(I can't get to FFXIV because one bullcrap Square enix and PlayStation did to me)

[@Safineya]

The game IS dead tho? You don't see it anywhere and it can't possibly have new players coming to it. I played it at release but it was just a booring repetitive grind for nothing so I quit. I bet it added more content but it can't be good if I don't see it anywhere

[@soulrpg4273]

⁠@@Safineyagame is not dead and the content they have is good imo. They have added a good amount since launch. New players will have a lot to work towards. Also the game just isn’t advertised enough which is why you may have not seen it anywhere else but KZbin.

[@VladStopTalking]

Still no new class, shit is dead.

[@soulrpg4273]

@@VladStopTalkingpeople asking for new class and don’t even know how to main their main lol. People who play all the classes or tries to play all of them are not beasting for new classes right now.

[@super-social-saltyfish]

the photo arts is too less in NGS, every update i wish them release a new PA but after 70lv patch i just don't login anymore,

[@MMOByte]

When was the last time YOU played PSO2 New Genesis?

[@lenerlink]

...playing it right now..

[@animedemon4]

last year

[@SergeLynx89]

3 months ago.😊

[@taleofsonata1]

The issue with PSO2NG from what I've seen is the horrible missmanagement from Microsoft part, literally everytime the game playerbase goes up but also equal amount of players are getting banned for RMT. I'm not saying RMT is a good thing but it just show how much people are willing to go just to make money to buy limited character cosmetic.

[@ampota008]

Still active but not playing that hard like I used to I just log in do dailies then log out

[@memoraveljogador8697]

As someone who played for around 1k hours (600 on my steam and the rest in multiple accounts) in Ship 2, i have to say that: this game is very frustrating in so many levels: Reaching end game is not that worthy because SEGA always give a decent or even better gear during seasonal/anniversary events (right now the event weapon series has more power and damage as a rarity 10 weapon (flugelgard series), the highest rarity in the game for now, and requires only lv.50 and it's already maxed out, just change the augments that suits your taste and you are good to go) and on base, you're stuck doing recommended 4 quests until you reach level 85 as a scion class or in both main and sub classes so you can join with what remained of the playerbase in that version (and good luck finding someone to help because almost everyone there is afking or preffer just chatting on the lobby). If you wanna play just for visuals and the "true end game" (aka. Phasion), just stick to the NGS version because the base is essencially dead at this point.

[@chillepics4752]

Here's what to expect when returning from what I know so far: >> Classes are revamped >> they added add on skills (every class has 3 bonus stats to generate til lvl 20) >> tech arts to customize every PA skills >> more items to exchange in exchange shop including recycle shops >> presets can be added, enhance and transfer >> creative space (like minecraft to your own world, someone made a replica in shibuya japan its kewl from jp server, they create gundams too and more!) >> transfer augment system (yes we have this now just like in base, so we don't waste messeta/munny for the weapon will have to use to be not obsolete) >> EX Augments (latest) not just augments for stats but it has effects to with different variations to pick just like in base S-Augment system New content soon: Line Strike (card game.. dunno how many of you loved Yu Gi Oh / Magic the gathering / Pokemon cards back in the day NGS will have its version soon) New Action System Upcoming: we will have addition feature when it comes to combat skills and this looks fun Lasty the story of halpha is going to end soon.. My theory is that we will discover the ship for traveling on different worlds for more mystery to reveal.

[@Emulcool]

your video reminds me that i should go back ... but my attention is focused on FF14 dawntrailer... so NGS will see me in nov or oct i guess ?

[@SnowTerebi]

I mean if you want more gameplay and story content definitely FFXIV. NGS right now is still mostly about phashion and some good action combat. They are adding challenging boss fights tho if that's you jam.

[@theoaremevano3227]

June has the next major things, but you'll never really suffer for waiting till later. They always make it feasible to jump back in.

[@harlanx]

Photon arts feels dull and light in NGS. In base you could really feel it.

[@lenerlink]

This isnt the first time PSO2 has been in this kind of bind. (Happen before in Japan with episode 4-5 if I remember correctly) The issue is if they can release themselves from this hole within the next 2 years. Peoples main issue was that they expected them to progress from PSO2 and improve on the formula...not reset everything back down to 0 and start again from scratch....gameplay included.

[@Icu282]

PSO2 already got to a better point in the same time NGS has been out now though. NGS has been out for about 3 years now. PSO2 took 2 years to get to Episode 3, and that was one of the highest praised Episodes aside from Episode 6. So it's not like it's unfair to expect NGS to have better structure by now. NGS has been out longer than it took for them to release Episode 3 in the original PSO2.

[@lenerlink]

@@Icu282 ...what your saying is that its ok for them to make the same mistakes twice...

[@shatteredsentient5321]

Times change though. Can't repeat shit twice

[@im50yearsold]

@@shatteredsentient5321 Sorry but its the same director directly responsible for the shit show that was episodes 4 and onwards

[@TrembleB4Me]

NGS is Fun,it even tops my Elden ring playthru hours,i reapeat-it tops up my elden freakin'-playthru HOURS😊Also i admit,i like dungeon Crawling than NGS's openworld,they shouldve made dungeon like "real dungeon"-not openworld emptiness😂

[@OGC93]

Devs make sequels no one asked for then proceed to neglect people's wishes to go back. It wasn't even that long since we had got luster and here comes new genesis to kill the game. If they reboot the game and just change the progression you could bring people back for a bit. I know i would come back

[@oxnerd]

Pso ep 1 and 2 defined my gamecube era. My god that gaming moment changed my life. I can’t go a few days without thinking about it.

[@bassage13]

It was Dreamcast for me. I spent sooooooo many late nights playing PSO.

[@shinkai9kami162]

The game is a massive disappointment, and it’s one of the only games that actually hurt my soul because of how good things used be before ngs came out. Man I miss those days, but I’m glad I don’t play this nonsense anymore.

[@andrewbenner6349]

The original game is still there.

[@shinkai9kami162]

@@andrewbenner6349 The original game is past its prime. Last I checked people don’t play it that much anymore.

[@andrewbenner6349]

@shinkai9kami162 I mostly played solo except during EQs (now known as UQs) and TACOs. And I played mostly with about a dozen OFL friends so it's a different experience.

[@shinkai9kami162]

@@andrewbenner6349 If I can download it without having to download ngs that will make my day!

[@MMOByte]

Yeah, PSO2 was much better.

[@fabioliverotti6024]

PSO2:NGS is a testament to what happens when you revolutonize a succesfful franchise, with not so well tought out implementations, usch as Open World, that here is done n an absolutely inadequate way and you pair it with copius amount of FOMO, extreme microtransaction and gacha mechanics, pay walls and tedious grinds meant to make you drop money on the game QoL features such as auto sell and "premium" subscription. Is a testament to mediocrity. Is not a bad game but is not a good game either. It just sorta exists

[@Koudmaker]

I played the JP version of the original PSO2 when the global didn't exist and was very busy every server that time i got the game on my PS Vita. PSO2 was in that time on its prime time. Every week there was a stream and a update about new content. But since the release of NGS and global it all faded away sadly.

[@Yutaberz]

Same to me. And I miss all channel are full and need to forcing enter when UQ come Ah I miss all things about pso2😭

[@QCS784]

As someone who plays PSo2 NGS I would say you grossly underestimate it’s player-base and community. Players and alliances creative space is also another way to spend time on NGS not all content is based off of combat. NGS is going to be around for a long time.

[@vegitohaze2081]

That focus on things other than combat is exactly what turns a lot of people off though. I was excited about creative spaces until I realized that they were pushing it as something that is supposed to replace actual content and gameplay and took up dev time that could be spent on more and better gameplay content.

[@LunaPPK]

massive cope

[@Kinohki]

PSO2 NGS has its ups an downs. I've played since PSO2 released originally in the west and before it went to NGS. A lot of the problem with the team is that they are focusing on LTQ's (limited time quests) so instead of doing what say, Path of Exile does to where they release an update and keep parts of things from the update that works, adding to the world, NGS does the opposite and scraps it for reuse later down the line again. A prime example are Geo monsters which are larger bosses with varied movesets and different drop pools. Now in June there is a new update coming with an entirely new field type that has been in development for a while as well as a new card game called, i believe it was Line Strike. There is so, so much more they could've done but honestly it feels like the producer / director is just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks rather than actually having any real vision or direction for the game. As someone who has played PSO since the dreamcast days, it really saddens me to see what it has become. PSO has always been a social game, yes, but it never felt like it was this shallow either. The loot just feels so...pointless. It's grinding for the sake of grinding, which is not a fun endeavor.

[@optimusfreim3686]

the point of the original PSO(and even OG PSO2) is the grind for the unique weapons, the dopamine you get when you get the super rare weapon after killing the boss hundreds of times, NGS has none of that

[@rept7]

I enjoyed the combat, movement, more open world, character customization, and for a time, its simplified RPG mechanics. I absolutely could not go back to PSO2 classic and I felt like a got a taste of what an action MMO could be. But the slow content cadence, power creep affecting gear and augments, and lack of a real endgame for people that want to do exciting challenges with a consistent group, all made me uninstall and stop playing. I think I stopped before the desert update and played again but stopped before the volcano land update.

[@ScarletRestall]

Stop playing when lvl cap was lvl 20.. came back recently a weeks ago.. now im quitting again.. because theres no end game content and the story is way too boring.. been playing pso2 since december 2012 tho' i still remember the game used to be 6gb only..

[@Shaiandra]

I still play NGS quite regularly (taking some breaks here and there) though sometimes I wonder why; I don't think it'll ever change to be much more interesting like I hope it might be. But combat is still pretty fun and the character customization options are fun to play with. But then a large majority of updates are limited-time quests and cosmetic fashion additions, or zone updates in a way such that older content is largely obsoleted, such that only a handful of things are ever worth doing (and the linear gear progression only adds to that problem). My belief is NGS is largely intended to be a whale trap preying on those that succumb to FOMO, yet despite that negative outlook, I do like fighting bosses, and still keep wishing that there were some less repetitive things to do.. They're finally adding a new area this summer, which I guess is good, though I don't think it'll address any concerns I have.

[@spacecat2637]

the thing is that you cant really estimate how many people are playing the game since the game is pso2 base and ngs in the same client...

[@SnowTerebi]

Just from what I see NGS definitely has most of the people.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

I dunno what the global server is like tbh but the Japanese server is in a dumb af place atm, albeit luckily the most recent update caused lag cause so many people logged in at once, so there is no risk of EOPS any time remotely soon. Sega added a ton of content for NGS, especially since I barely played in 2 years but the incentive for playing is really, really low. On the one hand Sega got greedy and made NGS super grindy like early PSO2 and dailies / weeklies are even restricted to once per account and not character, meaning without spending a buch of money we can no longer make more than a pittance of meseta and only somewhat recently alpha reactors are no longer a pain in the butt to collect, one of the biggest sources of meseta. After half a year of religiously doing dailies and weeklies a day I could afford exactly _one_ new hairstyle because there are a lot of people spending money and therefore making far more money, deciding fashion prices f2p players can't ever hope to compete with unless they grind many hours every day. And each weapon upgrade is 1-2m meseta if you get something good that is worth making in the first place and not just 2% stronger than handouts. And the handouts are the other thing killing incentive, why the hell bother making any effort if you only get peanuts gor it AND even without lifting more than a single finger you can get relevant endgame weapons? Add some unbelievably bad coding in some parts like loading screens softlock literally half the time on certain pcs if you don't have SSD when the original PSO2 loading screens are 99.9% fine and also faster and why play? The point of playing more than a bit now and then is farming and honestly there is just no goddamn point in farming. It's such a gigantic, colossal waste because before NGS PSO2 was the game with the best action combat, I compared it and it is infact smoother than even most DMC games and then NGS went and seriously improved on that even further, especially after they fixed the dumb as hell counter bug where they used a single thread for countering enemies and normal attacks / PAs so you could only do one or the other, farcing you to use pas and get inevitably hurt because countering could not interrupt your current animation which was virtually always too long to avoid getting hit or not use PAs and instead stand around waiting for the enemy / boss to attack most of the time.

[@beardalaxy]

With last week's update, a new fire has been ignited IMO. The new area is awesome, the EX augments are all good and support different playstyles, and the story was super good. It almost feels to me like this is a new beginning for the game, not just "hey we added creative spaces and called it version 2" but more like this is the best launch point the game has had since it came out. I really hope it continues to gain steam! I've seen a lot of returning players and new players.

[@hermityt1]

This post aged like milk. The game has less players than ever, and the new area (Nameless City) can barely get into double figures of players. Even the story has gone on indefinite hiatus. The copium for this game is ridiculous at this point.

[@MavethTheReaper]

I wish man we got another Phantasy Star Universe

[@knighty8975]

So i tried to return a few months back i dont find much change to the core game itself aka farming an absurd amount of material for something not even that much better than the "limited event"(yes those still going on) weapon they give out for almost free then after a short while of returnning it back to sitting in a lobby n wait for UQ , there r some new mission mode i need to try but at that point i already gave up, it just a glorified fashion show with some mmorpg element n a very broken player driven marketplace

[@shaece798]

they could still salvage the game if they would make everything less of a lottery drop progression, so people can actually have a reason to play the game and enjoy it, make more types of enemies, make, more reasons to fight and play the game other than just for the reason of grinding materials and augments, make more than just potency percent matter so more stat combinations are viable and encouraged. and stop catching everyone up with an event that only takes a day to complete giving no one a reason to play the game and farm because they know they will get everything they need from the few days before patch day.

[@izumitk9210]

I try to play this game but is empty the world is big and really nice but is so empty no one talks no-one team up.

[@ChamBeRyS]

I still have hope for pso2ngs

[@wolfrig2000]

I don't know much about this game, I only learned about it today as I was looking for games that work on Linux, this game works great on Linux!

[@soulrpg4273]

I think the game is worth playing at its current state. Will try to make this short and not an essay. Unparalleled customization and housing/world building. Good fan service if you’re into that. Combat can be addicting especially if you learn and master all the classes. Game excels at boss monsters big in size with fun attacks and good music. Amazing graphics. No subscription needed and can take a break and come back anytime and catch up easy to endgame players. For cons some mild p2w but nothing outside your usual Korean MMO and it’s not needed at all to clear any content. Major updates can be slow to some people’s standards. Needs better controller/key binding and camera control. Collabs and main story can use some work. Overall rate of the game 7.5-8/10.

[@shadowhellzx]

I'm still playing the game

[@MMOByte]

Glad to hear that!

[@DekRavenmane]

It's not exactly perfect, but I do call the game home. However, the huge downside, it seems to take the development team a months to implement quality of life changes and over a year to implement large change. Before, I played other games besides WoW. I thought MMO communities were only an obstacle for players to tolerate, here I am today coming out of my shell and engaging with the community, PSO2 both classic and NGS even reignited my passion for art. I would say the only thing I find least fun would be the gearing system, which seems to depend too much on gambling. It's just something about the community I love, the diversity in characters just gives this Melting Pot sensation as well as oozing this fantasy of being a part of some Galactic Federation. However, to keep a refreshed mind, I do generally swap from NGS, to Classic, to Warframe to avoid burnout.

[@HoDKenji]

As a veteran and still playing player. SEGA doesn´t do a good job of marketing for global and that is sad. The main customer is jp. It would be has a bigger player-base if the game would have more languages. Most germans don´t give the game a chance, cause of problems with englisch. Content ist much better then before but the timeinvestment for ultra hard content isnt worth the loot and that is sad. Everyone should look into the game and test it for himself. I had played Ep1&2 back on game cube so it is my fav. game

[@coolet9132]

When I first played when it came out I think they only had one region and when I last played like last year they had the island unlocked so it got boring quick. What I wish for them to do is adding more planets or new continents with new enemies or enemies from PSO2. I would play again if they added more maps and new enemies and more to do. I want to play it again but waiting for more content and not just cosmetics.

[@Meka-qq1tj]

Wish ngs was just an graphic updates for base pso2

[@dark3beast186]

I still playing this game

[@what1719]

It really doesnt help the game doesnt get much in content gameplay wise and just focuses on pumping out fashion scratches

[@what1719]

Biggest negative is how much content is limited time which is very annoying

[@genshinfinity]

How does this compare to Tower of Fantasy? Are there other anime style MMORPG (non chibi & non top view)?

[@lsnexus2080]

played both. NGS has better combat and graphics. more freedom to choose on playstyle. and there's character progression when grinding. its a true classic MMO whereas ToF is basically a gacha game. you can't choose a playstyle since you have to pull for the latest weapon and adapt the new rotation of weapons regardless if you like the playstyle or not simply because of how powercreep works. no character progression when grinding since in ToF you grind for pulls not to make your choice of playstyle stronger. they might be both MMO but one is a gacha game. if you are a spender then ToF doesn't respect your money. since your new weapon will be powercrept anyway. in NGS, your money spent probably goes to cosmetics which ofc you can reuse and combine to any cosmetics you already have.

[@genshinfinity]

@@lsnexus2080 ok thanks for the detailed reply :)

[@josephjohnson5415]

I've played phantasy Star since sega, and universe was the best. Ps02 ngs2 is anime phasion simulator with a house builder and a constant gear treadmill. It can't be largely successful because it gets story updates maybe once or twice a year, and those are consumable in the first day. From there it's just grinding... grinding... grinding. Grinding with mouse in a blender combat, seriously so many things on the screen I have no idea what's going on. But it can't die because of phasion, where else can I make my robo girl waifu? Most anime games are pre-made gacha girls, stale, boring. But here you get to custom craft your waifu. Of course phasion is where they make their money, most phasion items are behind pay walls and random spins.

[@azurecorviknight4189]

Heres what i want to do, Make a Rebirth of Phantasy Star

[@brodiapunch]

It's a mistake not focusing on the Leciel and Ultra Difficulty Quest contents, which are the mainstays of Version 2. Also, every updated area has tons of loot to easily gear up (just don't expect the 0.000001% rare drops, which are completely optional).

[@Bryophyta]

What's even the point of having content when that content is not worth running. We have 3 high difficulty bosses released, from which we only have a reason to do one for a weekly. To this day, after 3 years, running around killing low lvl mobs in combat sectors is still the most rewarding content for the average player.

[@brodiapunch]

@@Bryophyta Every piece of updated content provide upgrade mats for the average player. Discs, LC caps, regional caps, growthment, strugments, etc... This lets your account grow for just playing the game, even if you don't land that uber-rare drop. Also, the Crimson Realm really is more profitable than low-level sectors, btw.

[@mlgxxx808]

Did Microsoft handle western Xbox version of phantasy star online 2 badly

[@st1phly]

I wish they just made it 2 separate games. I want to play pso2 and can't be bothered to touch ngs, I don't even want it sitting on my computer wasting space

[@xiromassave]

The game is still strong just had a new update a few days ago

[@zohmbie1579]

most viewed part of the video is a jumpscare

[@Nimrod336]

Hey man, i need help with this. I dont own a pc anymore i was looking at final fantasy 14 online or pso2. Im a huge fan of blue burst episodes 1 2 but i fear the game might be dead. And i dont want to buy ff14 because idk how well that will work on a controller.. got any advice..is the game dieing is it easy to find players to go loot hunting with? Just anything anyone can tell me about either game plz let me know.

[@MrArthys]

Ngl, I thought this game was on the hundreds on steam

[@MMOByte]

haha truth.

[@fredlakota3595]

in the netherlands pso2 ng isnt available on steam ... still and probly never will

[@amilcarpdl]

The amount of delusional kids who are arguing bc their favourite game is dead is insane. The biggest KZbinrs who made their career around this game think the same bc this is a Sega's game and they fix bugs one at a time and once every several years. Additional, the content is smaller than the maps and there is not a real endgame, just eternal grinding whit no purpose. Accept reality and stop crying!!!

[@soulrpg4273]

How you gonna tell people to stop crying but you're crying yourself?

[@wickedcheeseburger7427]

@@soulrpg4273 Lmao literally.

[@shanes.6227]

a great fun MMO

[@kindrazzzy9179]

which shouldi play base or NG? which has more updates and likely to keep alive? pls answer help me

[@ronniewithrow6788]

I wish I could play it, it just never launches...

[@darrenpellichino2923]

It may not be considered top tier but man I loved that game. I had more fun playing PSO2 than any other game.

[@shatterstar3622]

It feels like there hasn’t been any good news in this series in a long ass time…. I’m so disenfranchised from the game industry. There was a time when developers would focus on making a great game was the monitozation strategy… now it’s like they build a game enough to monetize and move on to the next dumpster fire. Seems like every week another studio is laying off staff…. I dare say this is the worst I’ve even seen the industry in since its inception. Sad times….

[@Rocky.G]

Hiten Mitsurugi Style: Gojoryu Sen !! 😁😁😁 me too grew up watching this anime T_T !! Good old day !!

[@MMOByte]

Ahhh the good 'ol days!

[@kieren33]

I legit forgot this game even existed till my bro mentioned it the other day while we are waiting on Wuthering Waves so yeah

[@Yutaberz]

Ohh PSO2, still remember when waiting for UQ to find rainbow drop, gearing many time only with 25% chance, Concert, do solo or trio UQ, waiting cheap cosmetic in new year, FUN scratching thousand time to get 3d shop, no need to cash up in the game to get cooler looks or high tier gear and so on 🥲 Back when before NGS announce to launch, I just can hope PSO2 increase the max lvl and adding more dungeon or quests. 😭 Still try to play NGS for a year, but still my heart cant longing to the game😢. Maybe one day when I have spare time more, I will play ngs again Btw I actively play for 6years on jp server. Just want to share, and romanticize old memory of pso2

[@Taikomo]

You're right, I would expect New Genesis to have some actual improvements in the three years it's been out, so yes, it is not what I expect.

[@eherden2169]

I really liked PSO2 until it went open world in NGS. Haven played like in two years but I imagine having base PSO2 and NGS must take a darn lot disk space.

[@patlefofort]

Good enough to get by, but far away from what we wished it was.

[@mossen98]

I swear to god i opened youtube about to search "PSO2 NGS in 2024" and boom you posted this LMAO anyway gonna watch now.

[@AlooiM]

bring the casino from pso2 classi to ngs! I spent a lot of time in that casino. (unless they did bring it back I haven't logged in to ngs in ages)

[@chaosvii4605]

Remaster PSO 1 and 2. I'll never forgive them for destroying this franchise.

[@vivikxak]

First time playing this game this week . I play games like eso, neverwinter diablo immortal i like mmos and wanted to try PSO . My first impression of pso2ng was literally wow another ark survival clone . Granted i dont have the seires x or s . My xbox one s cant run it its like 20-25 frames just like ark survival 😊border line unplayable and i cant unsee it , i literally gave up. I really enjoyed the character creator and honestly looked like a great game . Until im over the whole ark thing ill try again 😅

[@slash72]

Bit late but ya i dont think you'll find many pso2 communities anywhere but discord

[@_.francescodm]

i literally stop playing pso2 when ngs came out, i prefer the classic one, no doubt miss the old times playing pso2 classic while doing the emergency quest, was a total caos but i loved it