PSW 2491 The Survival of Civilizations After 1177 BCE | Eric Cline

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

This was excellent. Own Dr. Cline’s revised 1177 BC book and just pre-ordered his newest one. Super fascinating period of time.

[@nancytestani1470]

Gotta read his revised book. Have the first one, and got to read his newest one. Ciao, Salve, Hello, Hi

[@Manic-Main]

Really enjoyed this thank you! Going to check out his books

[@ambrosemalone1891]

Brilliant as always from Eric, a top historian, and as always warm and witty.

[@davidvennel720]

Hello All, this was a great talk, speaker, subject etc. I remember the first talk by Prof. Cline. Also fantastic. Looking forward to the next one!

[@jamesrice8874]

Thank for making the fascinating period more accessible to the public in your books and lectures. I think its amazing how the ancient world was much more connected than my child and teenage education ever gave it credit for.

[@AYLove1]

Thank you for making premium contents available to the general public!

[@maxsonthonax1020]

Primo content.

[@christianfrommuslim]

Cyprus shifting to iron with the unavailability of tin, inaugurating the Iron Age is so enlightening! The whole story of what happened is fascinating.

[@DarkFire515]

Such a fascinating subject, and an excellent speaker! I could listen to Dr. Cline for hours.

[@DevilDog-dd5ob]

Me, too. But I would rather read the new book. Any idea what the name of the new book is?

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

I’m a geologist and it seems to me that more work can done to date any strong earthquakes of this period. Geologists use “fault trenching” and geochronometric dating to study the approximate magnitude and timing of (geologically) recent earthquakes. I haven’t seen any of these studies done in the Eastern Mediterranean that could add to the body of knowledge about the Bronze Age Collapse, or perhaps the results of such studies done for other reasons have not been collated and studied as a whole (these studies are often done before major development projects to assess the potential for earthquakes). Archaeo-Architectural evidence of destruction, like fallen or distorted structures, is not the only type of earthquake evidence that might be available, these standard geologic studies could be done as well. I love Dr. Cline’s books and lectures. Geological investigation could be much more integrated into the field of archaeological research.

[@markstuber4731]

You should send Dr. Cline an e-mail.

[@chrysology]

Geology is such an underrated science. 👏🏼

[@LostArchivist]

See this is what we really need, cross-discipline cooperation and studies.

[@CONNELL19511216]

Having watched 'Part 1' some years ago, it's a pleasure to have Dr. Cline providing an update on an extremely fertile topic

[@tudorm6838]

Very interesting about computer models about the order of the events 1:49:35. The model result coincides with the letter from the king of Ugarit that mentions that when Ugarit was attacked, the Hittites were also at war (and the Ugarit fleet was sent to help them).

[@ethandoingstuff1433]

I am so happy that I can use this hypercomplex socieoeconomic system to consume this incredible information!! ❤❤❤

[@LMO-f8p]

Awesome talk Dr. Cline! I love your work.

[@landiahillfarm6590]

Brilliant story, brilliant lecturer, Thank you.

[@josephwurzer4366]

This lecture is great. A bit of the old and the new. The lecture is great.

[@judithmcdonald9001]

Although my studies have been Andean pre-history and the links with SE Asia and Antarctica, I have been listening to Dr. Cline's lectures on the BAC for many years. Clues to our future are there. It is our best example of what happens when multiple entities dependent on trade fall. There are still many questions regarding the Sea People, but they are another story--the restless, the pirates, and so forth. I think I'll need the new book!!! And it really needs to be emphasized on how archaeology is changing so rapidly due to new sciences and tools. We aren't limited to stone buildings and empires or even by what we find on the land. Ocean-archaeology could eclipse digs in the near future as sea level rise gains acceptance and methods of discovery are perfected. Everybody who was anybody lived on the coast. LOL!! Mysteries like Nazca probably have a submerged history. The story is changing as should we.

[@ElaineDarlingtonBrown]

Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.

[@michaelcap9550]

Those darn Sea People. Always causing trouble.

[@tudorm6838]

The problem was not the drought, but the fact that it was a long drought (it is written in the book and in this video at 1:49:00 ).

[@faustinemint]

Very interesting.

[@larsnordstrom364]

Dr Cline is antional treasure

[@lauriebowers5693]

Thank you for posting this excellent talk.

[@Tal-q3r]

an upvote for historicism (history repeats itself)? 🤨 tyvm for the lecture/upload 🇨🇦😁

[@nancytestani1470]

That gate is just still Tremendous, awesome. Read so much about Mycenae. I went through that gate, Iwas humbled, I marvelled. So much Time.

[@davidwright7193]

3 people claiming to be pharaoh at the same time. Being British and having just endured the Year of the Three Prime Ministers (2022 for any Americans this passed by) I can sympathise. And it certainly doesn’t resemble a functional government.

[@ericgibson2079]

Nice observation

[@JMDinOKC]

Ah, the 3-PM Problem.

[@thekaxmax]

And then there was the years of 3 popes

[@bhavens9149]

new book? yes!!!! thank you! also its the subject I'm most interested in, resilience.

[@davidmorton8332]

Amazing. Thank you.

[@emilevanderzee7320]

Very enjoyable, including the questions, and the trilogy reveal 😊

[@aliuyar6365]

Excellent refresh on an already well described historical period.

[@philipsmith1990]

We are hugely fragile now. We have made the world completely dependent on digital technology that in turn depends on our ability to produce materials of incredible purity and lay them down in minutely thin layers in astonishingly detailed patterns. Our financial systems are massively connected and dependent on such digital systems. Our food supplies are just as vulnerable requiring daily replenishment almost entirely by vehicles that depend on supplies of fuel that is produced in highly technical factories. Our massive connections allow diseases to spread very raoidly and easily. I thought we were living in the decline and fall of the western empires, but it is apparent that China is also vulnerable and a collapse would be global.

[@LMO-f8p]

I agree with your assessment. We are on the edge of a huge catastrophic disaster if an event happens.

[@arlisnarusberk]

Thank you

[@lewissmith350]

Fascinating.

[@EnneaIsInterested]

One of the big post-LBAC shifts is the transition from the Sicilian amber trade, to the Baltic amber trade, probably this is connected to the rise of the Celts and the Germanics, fascinating period in history, the Tollense battle is probably connected to the suddenly-increasing trade bonds post-LBAC between Northern Europe and the Mediterranean.

[@blinkingmanchannel]

Please also tie in the African Humid Period... If I've understood it right, Gobekli Tepe might have been at the END of the last African Humid Period? Maybe? Because I agree with your hunch that we can learn from past events for the current event.

[@silverbackag9790]

Wasn’t the Harappan Civilization trading with the region as well? Their decline seems to coincide with the late Bronze Age collapse. Maybe the same climate change event ended their civilization that might have spurred on the sea people (via 2nd/3rd order effects)?

[@nancytestani1470]

Everything and everyone under great stress.

[@gulk.6884]

excellent !

[@Michael_qy9py]

Very good research & presentation. One question, are “Cypriots” not in fact Phoenician settlements such as Kition and Salamis?

[@joluoto]

I am reading the book right now, and he uses Cypriot for all peoples living on Cyprus which at the time seem to be original Cypriots (survivors of the Bronze Age), Phoenicians and Greeks. All were active on the island.

[@tarjei99]

Iron or bronze arrowheads in the walls? The bronze economy collapsed around 1186 when the tin mine in Anatolia was abandoned. The countries looses the ability to pay their mercenaries because bronze is basicly worthless. And long range trade stops. Trade in iron is distributed. I assume that the nations failed to replace the mercenaries. And became vulnerable. If the mercenaries serve for a limited time before heading back home, there would be problems when the economy crashed . When this system collapses, the surplus warriors have to leave home in order to aquire stuff needed to establish them at home. Hence "Sea People".

[@barbarabalen7278]

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[@tudorm6838]

The Western Mediterranean lacked proven military and naval logistics at that time. The Greeks and those in the Aegean area had active wars, they had the weapons and ships that appeared in the Egyptian basreliefs, they had fleets, and they had seaports. Furthermore, the Philistines had Aegean-style pottery and buildings, and the DNA of the early Philistines is most similar to that of the Greeks. The Greeks of Miletus were able to face the Hittite king alone. Who would have had the power to come from outside to defeat those in mainland Greece? No one. Most likely there were civil wars and/or wars between small Greek states, and then part of the population migrated. (also in the 2nd book)

[@uameamalositagatanofoalii7226]

The Sea People are overrated.