What men DON'T UNDERSTAND about FEMALE SELECTION: what being high-value does and does not get you

Awareness of some of the realities of female mating and dating behavior -- including hypergamy -- is at an all-time high. However, many men still entertain misconceptions about this information. In today's episode, I will address two of the most prevalent: the belief that hypergamy directly benefits women, and the belief that being high-value creates effortless sexual opportunity. These two misconceptions roughly accord with the two general male responses to hypergamy: despair and desire.
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Awareness of some of the realities of female mating and dating behavior -- including hypergamy -- is at an all-time high. However, many men still entertain misconceptions about this information. In today's episode, I will address two of the most prevalent: the belief that hypergamy directly benefits women, and the belief that being high-value creates effortless sexual opportunity. These two misconceptions roughly accord with the two general male responses to hypergamy: despair and desire. Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzbin.info/door/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sponsor an episode: oriontarabanpsyd.com/sponsor-an-episode Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #relationship #men

[@k.powell1634]

You should pin this comment. Great video Orion.

[@shawnphillip2849]

Sorry Dr, from what u said then what's the point, I'm serious what's the point the juice really isn't worth the squeeze

[@81TKing]

Man you are all wrong. Women think about all this things when they are not sure if you are their type. It is all simple. When you meet a proper woman nothing is a problem

[@sweetmask2744]

ok , this might be contradictory but hypergamy DOESNT exist.. what we call as hypergamy is something we allow women to pursue in todays society. think about the past any era in history, if a women goes after top guy, she can have his baby but he is not going to share resources unless courts make him, disguised as child welfare . its an artificial rule contrary to nature. think deeply. she becomes single mom and child has less life expectancy without father in past. she be abused too. its the risk she takes meanwhile regular men having no lineage at all. nature is balanced. its just BEHAVIOURAL ECONOMICS.

[@xanthippus9079]

Running behind hypergamy may work for some dudes, but for the majority of normal men, it's not worth it. We must also consider how women's standards are getting more ridiculous every week while they offer little to nothing.

[@terrodar19]

And men need to realize that walking away from someone who hasn’t selected you is the absolute BEST you can do for yourself.

[@viharm2960]

I would say select or not select organically be a person ready to walk away.

[@rnt45t1]

Men need to realize that no one wants us.

[@joncarbone]

Another issue is even if you are their best option they don't believe it. They're always one coworker or dm away from their soul mate.

[@js9273]

Exactly the same applies to women.

[@walkerzven4972]

Not just today but also tomorrow when she comes back knocking at your door after she was used and abused by her chosen one (S), don't accept sloppy seconds.

[@jcnlaw]

Experienced divorce attorney here. If you are a young guy, focus like a laser on becoming the very best version of yourself. Do the things that bring you joy. Don’t pursue women. Attract them. Depending on your jurisdiction, do NOT get married without a valid prenup. Stay safe out there!

[@michael-hw1uv]

Im 63 and i constantly see attractive women with drunks, Criminals, men that have very little money. But they CONNECT. And are masters at TALKING. Forget the status myth. Makes too much sense that women want a nice guy thats going somewhere. Women will THINK the opposite. Its Emotion. Its Connection.

[@realdeal139]

Thank you for the wise words sir.

[@itzakehrenberg3449]

@@michael-hw1uv I'm 59 and I don't see attractive women with drunks, criminals or poor men. Where do you live???

[@Arnuld15Governator]

@@itzakehrenberg3449 Think he's talking about the men who are "bad boys" that the women go after. You really can't make a simple conclusion since women are all over the place in their preferences. It's a stupid game at the end of the day.

[@bradfordpalmer2298]

Prenup!

[@CrypticZeus]

If you chase only butterflies, they will fly away but if you put effort in making a beautiful garden, the butterflies will come flying by themselves, and even if they don't come, you'll still have a beautiful garden.

[@mountainof7]

That's awesome!

[@ryanliteman6267]

And then you flamethrower the butterflies, because in a garden this majestic they are considered "pests"

[@charleskeyessr4288]

True…. But butterflies 🦋 still eat your tomatoes and cabbage..,

[@vigneshmoorthy6047]

Butterflies are beautiful and distracting 😂

[@Layarion]

@@ryanliteman6267 this still fits perfectly with the analogy

[@davidowens1424]

My 2 cents. Don't try to dive too deep into the pool of women's thoughts. Be whoever you are and be ok with her leaving. Don't spend too much time, money, or energy trying to get or keep a woman.

[@Ampman-wp5uv]

Be whoever you are and be ok with her leaving. Brother, the best advice ever. Gracias

[@MarcusVinnie-xl6nk]

Best answer!

[@MarcusVinnie-xl6nk]

Exatly, be okay with women making their decisions while you make your own. If they don't find you attractive coz you are ugly, fat, short, a race she doesn't like, broke or whatever other reason fair enough. But you are also free to decide whether or not to approach them or spend any time with them.

[@stephencapellan2312]

Thats something an unmarried dude would say. Once u have kids ull change ur tune

[@davidowens1424]

@@stephencapellan2312 I'm married and I have kids (adult children). I've said as much to my sons.

[@antithesespistopheles8112]

A woman will quickly forget everything you have done for her, but she will NEVER forget everything you have not done for her.

[@humble.pie.]

Unfortunately these are the things that revolve around her menstrual cycle.

[@eurosalamander]

Because wounds leave scars but orgasms quickly fade. It’s a sad truth that really good things do not leave permanent marks on a person, but really bad things often do.

[@zuckthebetacuck2789]

Exactly Mundo!

[@lesterdiamonds27]

@@eurosalamanderof course threats to your central nervous system symbolize potential death. Rewards only symbolize potential increased happiness but doesn’t ensure life.

[@boxman8957]

Remember. Never in the tens of thousands of years on the history of humanity have women ever stopped, contemplated and empathised male suffering.

[@christopherburns5170]

This was me! Got a graduate degree, six pack and six figures by 25, but still couldn't land a woman. Finally found someone who seemed to appreciate how awesome I was, but it turns out she was a narcissist. I didn't know what that meant back then. Now I'm divorced and broke and starting over at 40. Let me be your cautionary tale young men, watch this channel and learn to vet women before you let them come stay on your island

[@omkaradithiyya380]

All The Best, brother🔥

[@adamesd3699]

I’m going to give you some free advice, you are free to take or leave it: “appreciate how awesome I was” is the kind of thinking you need to bury. Your ex may have been a narcissist. Not trying to offend, but I would guess there were two narcissists in that relationship. You sound like you are fighting back from a hard landing. Good luck to you. Your path will be easier if you don’t come across as a narcissist.

[@christopherburns5170]

@@adamesd3699 great point, I definitely need to be careful the way I say it. Here I was going more for hyperbole to match the video's lesson -- like hey, I've got a six pack and six figures, everything the women say they want, but no one gave me the time of day for some unknown reason (which we learned in the video). But when I linked up to my narcissist and she was love bombing me it felt as though I was her superhero and was the best guy since sliced bread. Finally all my workouts and investments were paying off. 🙂 I appreciate you checking me so I could introspect on this

[@christopherburns5170]

@@chelsy2255 I think perhaps his advice didn't land well with you because it was directed towards me. Sorry it seems to have upset you.

[@adamesd3699]

@@chelsy2255 @chelsy-gz1js My comment was directed to Chris, since I quoted directly from his comment. I’m not sure what I wrote that upset you. It was not my intention to upset anyone. I was simply reacting to the “how awesome I am” part because I recognize this thinking in people I know and sometimes in myself and it usually doesn’t go well. I know an attorney who makes more than $3 million a year. And most of it goes to his three ex-wives. He used to be handsome, successful, doing great. He still has the income, but he’s now an overweight alcoholic on several medications who works to pay all the alimony and child support. [Edit: And to pay for his continuing “extra-curricular” activities with even more women.] So my point is that being smart, careful, and humble in life is very important. As for who has it worse these days, men or women, I would say both.

[@MassiveLib]

As a 58 year old man I can't begin to tell you how much of relief it is not to have to care what women think.

[@7lightcraft]

Are you single or are you in a structure guided relationship that you lead? I’m 39 and considering staying single. Women out there are in a sad state.. I can’t afford to bring that type of energy into my kingdom.

[@MassiveLib]

@@7lightcraft I'm in a long relationship that has been a civil partnership for 3 years. We did the work over many years. Find a person that is willing to not play games and do the work together.

[@rrmackay]

I so agree, my 50s have been the most peaceful time of my life because I just don't care what women think anymore.

[@rrmackay]

@@MassiveLib Thats great advice until... She decides one day that she is bored and you just are not the one anymore, no matter how well you think you know her, no matter how in tune you are with each other it still happens. I was married 27 years and thought we were on the same page, then she walked out.

[@mohammedaslam2912]

@@rrmackay it must have been painful. On the bright side it seems almost an impossible story that a woman would stay with you that long! Most women are goldiggers nowadays.

[@DarkSyster]

My observation is that most men are clueless. My parents met on a blind date while both were away at uni. My mother had to ask her friend to ask her boyfriend to encourage my dad to ask my mom on a second date. After 9 months of dating, my mother said to my dad "If this isn't heading towards marriage, I'll need to start dating other men". He asked her then and there. My father admitted he never once thought my mother would ever consider marrying him as she came from a well to do family and he came from a poor one. But my mom always said he was a better man than any she knew from her hometown. But even my grandmother had to push. She met my grandfather at a party. He was shy. She told him "You should ask me to dance," so he did. After she said "Are you not going to ask me out on a date?" Grandfather did so. After a number of months she asked "When are you planning to ask me to marry you?" He died before I was born so I don't know what he thought but he was a very handsome man, very intelligent, but from a poor family. Moral of the story. Men, don't underestimate yourself. Women probably grade you better than you think they do. And women, if you find a man you want, forget the subtle hints and hit him with a clue-by-four. It's the only way men know what women actually want.

[@jvo3777]

This story isn't applicable for today, VERY different times for grandpa and grandma.

[@DarkSyster]

@@jvo3777Yeah. Now it's BOTH the young men and young women who are clueless and unable to communicate with each other.

[@jvo3777]

@@DarkSyster true. I have no plan to attempt dating again, Jesus is coming so soon anyway.

[@divinityofblackness6330]

If only it happened like this in real life :/

[@user-ex6nd8dq8w]

Examples refer to past times. Quite a very different environment. Still what this anecdotal stories show is the fact that : 1. It is women, not men, the ones who chose 2. Flirting does not come natural to men, precisely because flirting as we mean it is not a natural human behavior.

[@lokai7914]

I'm 63 and chose to never marry. I'm well educated, over 6 feet tall, earned over six figues for decades and owned my own company. I can speak to anyone, anywhere at any time. However, I spent 10-12 hours per day making deals, playing politics and resolving issues. I was NOT willing to play the sort of games most women insist upon. It was not worth my time. I did meet and date some fascinating women. I never married because living up to their expectations was exhausting. I wanted someone I could build with, not for. I am NOT a human-shaped ATM and refused to play that part. I've now retired and live alone on my boat.. now there's a happy ending for you.

[@Just_a_Lad]

Good job man.

[@johngalt6838]

@@Just_a_Lad Society end though

[@Just_a_Lad]

@@johngalt6838 who cares, you can't fix it, live your life.

[@danzig3764]

Date whoever you want especially since you are established. Don’t take anyone seriously, but only to meet your wants.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Bro, head to the phillpines and date. Then come back home, and repeat. You'll have the best of both worlds.

[@jameslebeau7078]

The more I learn about dating, the more impossible it seems.

[@BreezeeGreenz]

😂

[@BreezeeGreenz]

It's not as hard as it seems. It just takes one or more teachers who can simplify it for you. That's what you and all men need.

[@Squatzoatz]

It's not impossible. If you can accept being with someone that is a close match for you, then try to make it work. After all if you're a close match then it probably should work. But if they arent able to see it that way then that's on them and they arent going to be able to find what they want. Settle with someone that will settle for you. It's humbling.

[@theblackschwab3561]

Leave the country and it will be very possible.

[@Selrisitai]

They're making it sound complicated, but really this stuff is obvious if you're thinking about it at all. Sure, feminism muddies the water, but ultimately, if you're not exceptionally short, exceptionally ugly or exceptionally poor, all you really gotta do is be nice, be confident, be _firm,_ and have standards. The fact is that EVERY aspect of life, every single one, has a million little things to navigate. If your parents didn't prepare you in any way, if you don't have life experience, then everything will be a confusing challenge, from ordering food at the McDonald's counter to picking up packages at the post office.

[@espada9]

NEEDING someone makes you weak and dependent, KNOWING yourself and making yourself your priority and living a life that is respectful of you and your purpose and goals makes you high value.

[@Auren23]

As a 5'2 guy who would get brutally rejected and ridiculed because of his height, i can confidently say i stopped chasing women a while ago, i let them come to me now. Despite this supposed hurdle i have dated, and ALL of the girls i dated came onto me first, started talking to me first and showed interest first, no exceptions, and i decided that is exactly how I'll take things for the rest of my life, unless i somehow magically grow taller. I see myself as the" prize" not the other way around and yeah i want someone worthy to claim me, someone who will appreciate me for me, and if it doesn't happen it's fine, either way i get my happy ending.

[@bro918]

You must have an extraordinarily nice face if women are approaching you at 5'2"??

[@Auren23]

@@bro918 Well, i always get compliments on it, but i doubt it's that great, if it is i don't see it. I hear the word "cute" a lot though...

[@bro918]

@@Auren23 Im not sure how much money you make, or how old you are, but im actually a little jealous... Im 2 inches taller than you and no woman has ever complimented my face lol. Yeah i dont think cute is necessarily a good thing coming from a woman... but id take that over nothing lol

[@Auren23]

@@bro918 Aw hell nah, I'm just 22 and broke lol. And no, cute isn't exactly what you want to hear indeed but hey, if it gets me girlfriends I'm all for it LMAO. Most of my relationships were before i turned 18 though so maybe there's something there? I wouldn't know. I'm currently going through college so maybe I'll have a decent condition in the future, who knows...

[@hsjoberg]

@@Auren23 No. Your face must be exceptionally good if you get compliments. Men basically never get any compliments whatsoever. Let alone about physical attractiveness, or from women.

[@EdwinBetancourtJr]

From my experience there are two types of Hypergamy. Looks Hypergamy Financial Hypergamy. Obviously a Woman would prefer a Man who has both Looks and Finances. If you fit her financial Hypergamy but she doesn’t find you se*ually attractive, she will step out on you from time to time with someone who does, usually an ex boyfriend. If you fit her looks Hypergamy but she doesn’t feel you could provide for a family or lifestyle, she will still give you se*ual access to her but she will not commit to you and she will look for someone who can take care of her financially. She will always keep contact with you if you stay looking good and will reach out from time to time to enjoy a good romp, but she won’t commit to you!

[@pantherman8719]

So the good looking guy wins because no strings attached sex.

[@53strat55]

Tbh the last deal does not need to be that bad. Basicly you are describing the chads, if I know she will not commit but will bang I can still do my own thing outside of her. Thats actually not a bad deal, the only one who is losing is the dude she is so called committing to. They are the only one who lose, sex is a reward from a males perspective. I told this girl, why would I commit and date you for real when you gave it out for free? She did not know what to anwser. Dumped her after she gave other stupid anwsers and now she wants to meet up to talk lol.

[@mbg9650]

Women dual mating strategy is (1) breaking rules for alpfas; and (2) making rules for betas. Being an alpha or a beta is your call cuz it's a mindset.

[@johngalt6838]

Genetics and provision.......

[@johngalt6838]

Pool boy satisfies her genetic hypergamy.....the millionaire who owns the pool satisfies her provision hypergamy. The pool boy is very temporary and she will likely cash out of the millionaire eventually.

[@JJ-wi2uw]

"Women don't care about your struggles. They wait at the finish line and pick the winners." - Bill Burr

[@schumannresonanceswithverte]

Yes, exactly. If the female side of selection is that a man is always at risk of being left by her, then there's little to no motivation for him to be involved with a modern woman, who can not manage to value loyalty. Men are learning. The problem is that what they are learning is turning them from females for good. Better to invest that time in a career.

[@bgrego88]

It does matter,woman can squeeze 18yrs of resources out of 1 night. And there will always be more men for women to swindle. They just don't care about us. They care about themselves and their children, once you understand this women are easy to deal with

[@markdsimpson8915]

You make outstanding points. Thank you. Men need to become indifferent to women. A woman who gets 5 looks an hour is confident and satisfied. Men need to understand that giving a look/attention has no reward. Women desire attention from specific men in their presence. It's a subtle reward game that men don't understand. The reward for her is your attention and nothing else. That says to her "I can have any man." That's all she cares about. Flirting for women is to get attention. If she has to be obvious about flirting the value of the attention is less. Rejecting a man's attention in a public place elevates her value/status even if she would like to engage in conversation with that man. Men will not be happy with a woman that plays this game. They are in a loop and endorphins are enough. Better for men to not only become a protector/provider but to find a valuable woman. Women playing this game are not valuable. Valuable women do valuable things. Being what used to be called a slut for attention is not valuable.

[@sypros5621]

Obviously, you don't know much about women.

[@TheBayzent]

Valuable women don't exist.

[@Me-eb3wv]

@@sypros5621wdym

[@n-tertainmentx-tended4760]

Like Aaron Clarey keeps saying: "Most woman generally don't like most men." So if you're working from that supposition, everything that's been happening in the last twenty years starts to make sense.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

s/o cappy. that guy is a legend. as he says, "do not get married".

[@warriorson7979]

The reverse is also true tho. If it wasn't for sex (and in some cases for parenthood), most men would not see a reason to EVER interact with women.

[@luke2209]

I like him but overall he's a nihilist. Watch him sparingly if you want to keep a positive attitude towards life.

[@latt.qcd9221]

A lot of the men that find women "confusing" or "impossible to understand" are typically unwilling to accept certain realities about women. If you're fed false axioms and suppositions about women all your life, of course women would seem confusing or impossible to understand when little of their behavior actually logically follows from those axioms. It's only when you accept things about women -- things that a lot of guys don't want to accept -- that women start making more sense and are no more "complicated" than men.

[@M0viLover]

W0men are now *independent.* As in, they don't *need* a man to survive. They work and can survive on their own. So .. what does a man bring to *their* table? Sex. So, w0men are *only* interested in men they (sexually) *want.*

[@Ivar_Stig68]

I'll share my story about hypergamy. I've grown disgusted because of it due to women hiding their existing relationship. Women will walk up, talk until they like me, and then start flirting with me. When I show I am not interested and they finally take the hint, I will then hear them talking with another women about their existing boyfriend. Apparently deception and Infidelity, as I see it, are perfectly acceptable to certain women as long as they benefit.

[@2Gloomy_]

I believe once you the see the true nature of what women are capable of, you can never go back. I’ve been with both married women and women in LTRs. If her needs aren’t met, she’ll meet up with a dude on the side and the boyfriend/husband will never find out. Brutal.

[@rocstarang5747]

I've never met a truly "single" woman in my adult life. He might not give her a title but someone is *filling a void* in her life. Just understand it's all in the game and it's in their nature to monkey branch. It's written in their firmware.

[@evilzinabyssranger5695]

Ive met a few man from the top of the food chain and them are disgusted and dont trust MOST OF THE FEMALES they met. And those guys used to fuck many. But the more their in the game, the more they disgust.

[@andrewmackenzie325]

Briffault’s law

[@Yeahhoee]

you will always find out, sometimes sooner sometimes later. You can clearly see the hints when they change behaviour and the fact that we are living in a world where every human is on the phone all the time its hard to hide. If they have to hide something from you on their phone you will clearly notice

[@richardsuero2550]

Great info on female hypergamy. That’s why I quit the dating and mating strategy decades ago. Better to be informed and not participate at all then to get shafted by being naive

[@donotreadmyprofile9373]

glad that you left mate

[@donjoel6754]

Hi Dr. Orion. My name is Don. Thank you so much for the bitter pill to swallow, it was necessary and very encouraging. I'm on a path to learning how to be better with women and to be more confident in the process. Thanks for the video and I hope you have an amazing day.

[@jonathanybema2682]

Don't be put off by the challenge of self-improvement. Being a high-value man isn't just about attracting women, it’s about cultivating habits that benefit you personally. It's understandable to feel frustrated, but don't let resentment stop you. Self-discipline and daily growth give you a mental toughness that's invaluable. What’s more, this journey can even lead you to a supportive, high-value woman, making it even more rewarding. It’s not about being in the 'top 10%,' it's about becoming the best version of yourself.

[@c1s1125]

You get it. This is what I've done and I've happily had 80% of my adulthood filled with companionship and love with a woman who gets to witness me grow and age like wine. If your woman can witness your ever-improving situation - she'll want a ticket to ride that train and keep riding and riding and.... 😉

[@luker1hutcher315]

EXACTLY

[@toddjohnson271]

@@c1s1125 sometimes....she can leave at any setback. Avoid long term and contracts.

[@iaf4454]

​@@c1s1125 you got it. I wish all men could do that!! Congratulations!!!

[@gvis3880]

@@c1s1125 improving yourself for a woman is a fools errand, since women will always look for the bigger better deal and leave you when she can

[@mentoriii3475]

As someone who sucked with women in my 20s but still worked on my body and career, now that I'm in my 30s and get lots of attention from women i refuse to settle down because i worked my a$$ off to get where i am now just so a women who wouldn't look my way in my 20s can benefit from me, fk that, i tell young men all the time to work on themselves and not focus on women at all

[@stevejhkhfda]

why not get over that resentment and enjoy the spoils of your success?

[@DuncanL7979]

If they weren't ride or die chicks during your grind, then they don't deserve you during your prime.

[@walkerzven4972]

@@stevejhkhfda he is, by not settling.

[@philippossnortis2035]

any tips for a 27 old man ?

[@bintiaisiah]

Is 27 old?

[@terrenceburruss9863]

This was a phenomenal video. Very thorough and pragmatic breakdown with real life examples. Keep doing what you’re doing, how you’re doing it. Great watch 👍🏾

[@S1000xrhp]

Walking away is men's superpower. Not only is it an act that women can't control, it is also extremely damaging in that it's the ultimate rejection which they can't handle. My girl and I were discussing the rocky relationships that we could see amongst our friends. In that context I simply stated that I'd walk away from it all, not engage. This was a bombshell to her, she interpreted this as a major threat to her/us - whereas all I was doing was highlighting a hypothetical example. Oh dear, she was spinning out of control and imagining it to be a reality, she just couldn't process it. Jesus.

[@melenico4512]

Rejecting women is massive for them.

[@xiaojiazhou3773]

I think it boils down to gender differences in how men and women interpret and resolve issues. Generally, when conflict arises, men prefer to retreat into their safe space to prevent further escalation whereas women prefer to engage and discuss over it in order to find solutions. I think your girl wasn’t interpreting your response as a rejection to her as a person; perhaps, she interpreted your walking away as disinterest in not willing to resolve potential relationship issues that may occur in the future. This may imply insecurity in the relationship both of you share. Since she values the relationship she shares with you, it is understandable that it may have invoked feelings of anxiety (although it is a hypothetical situation in a certain context, it may happen in reality). You just need to reassure her that no matter the differences in how both of you respond to conflicts, there will be an amiable solution for the both of you. Perhaps, you may feel puzzled over how women think. Generally, women tend to possess a more emotional mindset and men tend to possess a more logical mindset. Of course, I’m making general assumptions although it seems that your girl may fit into this assumption.

[@R3GARnator]

Tinder only works when you swipe left. If you only swipe right, then you don't establish a preference and thus get the bottom of the barrel. @@melenico4512

[@brianmarasco2610]

I am a retired man who was never married, lived with a woman, or had any children. I am not rich; however, I live comfortably on my own terms. I am happy that I was never involved in the hypergamy trap! I will emphasize to all the younger men that whatever you can provide will NEVER BE ENOUGH - make the right choices!

[@Just_a_Lad]

Even though I'm in my mid 30s I'm heading your way, I just don't need the drama and the stress. Planning to buy myself a house near the sea this year and live my life there.

[@qweqwe5186]

" I am happy that I was never involved in the hypergamy trap!" unfortunatelly we ALL are involved for example by taxes (they want more and more so they can even push a law working with simps to rob others and give it to them (females). calculate whos paying taxes and who is taking most benefits from those taxes and filter it by gender its like black and white they are better in manipulation so they manipulate system into benefiting them robbery

[@jcnlaw]

As an experienced divorce attorney who handles high asset divorces, you are correct. Whatever you can provide to most women will never be enough. I have seen cases where multi millionaire entrepreneurs give the wife an incredible lifestyle, but she is “not happy” and files for a no fault divorce. There are a few exceptions but they are rare.

[@gcanaday1]

This isn't a good position. You've really lived for nothing. This is the dead end way.

[@animamagna3077]

Absolutely.

[@Sams911]

Airline pilot, make $450-$500K a year, working 12 days a month... drive a new Porsche 911, 6'0 tall, 52 and fit... and I still struggle to get the quality of women I want... yes, occasionally I do get them, but it's A LOT of work and failure upon failure ... numbers game.

[@Aright231]

But you’re 52 man. Who are you competing for? Are you muscular fit or just not fat fit?

[@hansblitz7770]

Should be super easy in a poorer country. Pretty sure you'd need vajine repellent if you went to a hotel bar in a Latin American country in that sweet flight jacket uniform, especially if you're European ancestry.

[@BlackPantherWhip3950x]

Alot of ppl would love to be where you are... At least you're enjoying life

[@js9273]

@@Aright231 Agreed - this bloke is probably deluded and thinks he's younger than what he is.

[@carlospita6442]

You have to be joking brother.

[@Sonofagreatdad]

A masculine problem solving method projected on to women . I love it

[@theravenousrabbit3671]

Nah, this episode is inherently dumb and his inexperience with women is very obvious this time

[@ryancxe]

@@theravenousrabbit3671give evidence for this

[@jirensentry7609]

I don't think that is the angle here. This is for men to solve by understanding how women today, mate and to break the two misconceptions about their mating practices strongly held by us.

[@DrDarp]

What's the solution tho

[@Sonofagreatdad]

@@jirensentry7609my writing is poor. I am saying what you are saying . We project our thought processes on to them. Then we are resentful if they don’t act how we think they should.

[@jonnyaesthetic]

I'm thankful for you bro, you have no idea how much we needed to hear this.

[@davids.4760]

It is a bitter pill, yes. If I had known as a young man how this all actually worked, I would have never pursued women at all. The pursuit of women has cost me more than any other activity in life. I, like so many men, fell prey to the gaslighting that society fed me that any barrier that I might perceive was something I could overcome. The analogy that I call forward is having every person of influence in your life telling you that even though you are 5' 4" tall, the only thing standing between you and a career in the NBA is cultivating a positive attitude. The truth is bitter, but it is not as cruel as the alternative of magical thinking.

[@Buddyboyo7]

Big business benefits when you buy gifts, presents & drinks for a women who friend zoned you the moment she met you. Government benefits through taxes. It’s all a big game bro. That’s why the black pill is “toxic” and the “blue pilled” way of thinking is the societal norm.

[@Subhumanoid_]

@@Buddyboyo7 Just stand up straight, take a shower, have confidence and women will be all over you. If you fail, try, try, try again. Make sure you pay as much tax in the mean time.

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

Same. I am know on disability. I will not work in an economony, which I am not benefiting form.

[@jameseverett9037]

Being a bad boy will overcome any height problems, I guarantee you. Can't count how many babes I've seen with shorter guys, as long as they look like li'l Wayne wanna-be's, everything her Dad doesn't want her to date. Wear a baseball cap backward, let your pants sag, say stupid things and give the impression you think you're being a wise-ass, clever & funny. Tell her car-jacking stories, and joke about burning civilization down. She'll want to 'fix' you - eventually - but first she just wants to enjoy being seen with you. Women turn shit-for brains for the bad boy.

[@aushshsushshsh5224]

​​@@Subhumanoid_don't forget a haircut and respecting women

[@boyantrifonov]

4:46 Dr. Orion you said "Hypergamy primarily benefits men." Hypergamy primarily benefits THE 10% of men that reach that level. Current hypergamy is devastating to the western society. Good productive members of society men can not get good faithful wives and start and maintain families. Women by their own choice prefer to be 304s and part of a harem of a 10% man (that can be a bad role model/criminal) And we have many children brought up by single mothers (by choice!) and we know the statistics of how that is going.

[@peaceonearth8693]

I'll help you think. If you want to lift 200lbs. Your first day in the gym you find that you cannot lift that much. So, you set out to improve yourself. This is called self-improvement. So to overcome the barrier of hypergamy, men are motivated to improve themselves. Which benefits the man when he works to improve himself. Hpergamy benefits ALL men who try.

[@michalkupczyk7]

The prevalence of delusion of high self worth in western women (aka im 10, everyone beautiful), causes hypergamy to be devastating. Up to 1960s women instinctively knew whom can they get to force to commit in case of pregnancy - that was grounding the hypergamy. Now their hypergamy thanks to the birth control extends to the very top, way past upper tier of men the woman can get to commit.

[@boyantrifonov]

@@peaceonearth8693 I get the general idea you are trying to tell but it is NOT 100% correct. A lot of men that try develop mental illness. Some want to take shortcuts (steroids for body or aggressive trading/crypto/gambling for the money part) All these things can lead to catastrophic results. Men are doing plastic surgery. So current hypergamy does NOT benefit everyone that tries. Women have always been hypergamous even in the “good ol’ days” but within reason. That is why I am using the term “current” hypergamy. It is out of control!

[@tonydiesel3444]

They side chicks

[@j.davila4523]

Some of those good productive men who can’t get wives or let alone sex…have a potential for turning violent for not getting their sexual needs met…and that’s a huge problem for society, young men that have nothing to lose and feeling disrespected by society…not a good look

[@subhajitbanerjee46]

My man speaks FACTS!! Blessed to come across this channel... Huge LOVE & RESPECT from India. ❤️🇮🇳❤️

[@JackMicklemyer]

I really appreciate your work , you break everything down to a science. When I can’t explain to other people my issues with dating you are the perfect mediator . THANK YOU

[@FergusHodgson]

"The juice is not worth the squeeze." This captures my sentiments towards women. Even if I meet the criteria most women have, they will make up more requirements and just give me a headache. I can get sex easily, but dealing with women for much more than that tends to be tiresome.

[@mgtowski395]

Exact thing I tell my friends but most don't get it. I'll add that even with sex, many aren't worth the hassle.

[@xanthippus9079]

It's important to note that the prize for checking a laundry list of attractive traits is a modern woman.

[@robertsteinbach7325]

It is only worth it if, and only if, you are becoming a better catch for yourself and only for yourself. You need to focus on you and I will tell any one, guy or gal, to do the same thing. No one gives guys anything.

[@latt.qcd9221]

Yup, you're better off just deciding in what ways you want to "grow" so that your growth is actually beneficial to yourself, instead of trying to "grow" to attract women and hope that as a byproduct you might get some personal benefit from such growth.

[@FergusHodgson]

@@robertsteinbach7325 Agreed. Live for yourself and not for women.

[@profet1385]

The problem I have with accepting "grind to be top 10% men" idea is that if it's not sustainable for the majority of the society, then I can't treat it as if it were. That's why I think I'd rather forego the grind than do that, or meet a woman with low hypergamous drive - they do exist, but ironically obviously they're not to be found where hypergamous women do gather (clubs, dating apps, etc...) and they mostly check out of the dating game early. It just feels ridiculous to me because only 10% can be top 10%. Therefore, the strategy is not viable for the society. I can hear "why care about the society, just be top 10%", but that's just not gonna work coz it's gonna result in say 30% of men trying to be 10%. It's gonna keep making people unhappy, both men and women 😊

[@rocstarang5747]

Counterpoint, women are goofy. That "top %10" is totally contextual. They really have no clue what they want most of the time. Just be the best version of yourself and let the chips fall where they may. Good luck bro 👍

[@hufficag]

Yeah people have no basic logic

[@okaySam]

This is where the slightly autistic male brain reaches it's limits. Attraction is not a math equation. Women aren't comparing stats (they're also not comparing bank accounts; at least the sane ones are not.) Women want security, so they compare you're ability to provide security to that of the next man. Just as you are comfortable dating a "pretty enough" woman. A woman is comfortable (and content) dating a "secure enough" man. You don't have to be in the top10%, no matter how many gold digger horror stories you've heard. But 10% is a good goal to strive for nonetheless. Just don't get obsessed. Again, this is like a woman obsessed with looking like an instagram model, because she thinks this is the only way for her man to stay loyal. Then you have women just giving up on looking decent at all, because "they don't want to compete".... Don't fall victim to this deluded mindset. Compete, but don't obsess. Life is balance. Good luck

[@castiel4746]

@@rocstarang5747 right look the tinder swindler....

[@untouchable360x]

Non hypergamous women = unattractive. That's the trade-off. No thank you.

[@jackwilson8700]

Very insightful, thank you. The last two minutes are golden.

[@semperoccultus1969]

I agree with this. Probably the most important thing about attracting women is masculinity, making them feel comfortable with you to the point where they’re sharing personal information and freely touching you. Confidence that’s casual… banter/humor and flirting. But, the bottom line in order to get them to fall in love quickly, is you have to be able to give them a penetration orgasm by understanding how and what puts them over the edge during the act. That oxytocin rules their minds on burning desire. In order to get to that, you have to make them feel safe on a lot of levels… freedom from judgement, humor, sharing your thoughts and experiences while also listening to them… eye contact, and innuendo-flirting. Your money, job and cars won’t get you any burning desire… just opportunity.

[@Clockwork.Lemon854]

Even if you become a high value man, the juice is not worth the squeeze. One of the most uncomfortable things to accept is that women are not worth it, even if you are attractive. Put yourself first fellas, let go of the idea of some dream woman who you need.

[@Just_a_Lad]

You are absolutely right

[@sigurdopheim3626]

Well what if that woman gave you a son? Would that be worth it? She has to do some squeesing to! 👶

[@supremelordoftheuniverse5449]

As a highly attractive man that has had one too many married / engaged women hit on me, many of them married to close friends or people in the family, I'm increasingly disgusted by how female attraction / selection works

[@iveyhealth2266]

​@@sigurdopheim3626 Then she'll want child support.

[@MrTrollbaby]

Dig that saying ay

[@bdgregorybd]

Another thing to note about women’s sexual selection is that they select men that are relatively high value, as in, they pick the best men available to them at that time. If you get a room with ten women and ten men, nine of whom are trash and one man is average, those ten women will look at the average guy like he’s a Greek god. Conversely, change those ten men to where nine of them are exceptional men, and the other man is slightly better than the rest by 1 percent and he will be looked at as a Greek god, while the other men will literally be treated the same by women as below average men would. This is why I balk at this movement in the Manosphere to push for all men to get better because it doesn’t change the rules, it just makes it harder for men to compete.

[@Aright231]

Optimization algorithms: women.

[@rocstarang5747]

I agree. I have said before you can be a "contextual alpha" based on your environment. I've always been a catch but there are friends I never go out with to talk to girls for example, because I know I can't compete lol! A man must know his limitations 😁

[@hanarielgodlike9283]

Finally someone who got the root of the problem. Its impossible for everybody to be top 10%, because it is a position that by deafult, excludes 90%

[@inconnu4961]

@@rocstarang5747 You've said this before to whom? who are you and why are you quoting YOURSELF to a bunch of strangers? Have you written a book, or have a podcast or some level of competency above us? or are you an average dude too? LMAO ( if I have told men once, i have told them a thousand times, but they just wont listen! ha ha ha)

[@inconnu4961]

@@kimilsungthefirst6840 I am willing to 'sacrifice' my share of the women to those Nigerian princes! Have at 'em, boys!

[@barrellcooper6490]

Glad you did this video. My own experience: I don't check all the boxes that women are supposed to want. I was in school at place where men outnumbered women 7:1. To say it was competitive was an understatement. It took a couple years to learn what to do. It never felt easy though it got better. Mainly knowing how to show enough interest to get s woman's attention without showing too much and scaring her off, and probably more importantly letting things develop say s peace that let the woman think it was her idea. Learning how to recognize when there was sexual tension building. I was also close friends and confident of a lot of women. I don't know being in the friend zone was a bad thing. Those relationships gave me some insight into how women think. Then l graduated, making a fair amount of money. I remember thinking l liked the women l was with when l was a broke student more than the women i attracted when l showed up with the BMW. Even more decades later women are still a mystery. But things like this video do a lot explain the behavior i encountered. I think the most important thing is to realize, it's like a game, and women want you but they can find a thousand different reasons to run away. Like hunting or fishing you have to be patient but know when it's time to act, and always persistent .

[@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid]

Talk to stranger females and ask them direct questions to dispel "the mystery" of being a woman. Men could understand, if they made an effort to find out. Women you don't know are a better place to start - because they are bamboozled to. Life is not working out how feminism said it would, despite legal changes.

[@FountofArcane]

I’ve just chain watched 4 of ur vids, this is such a wealth of info and as you stated, young guys like myself get insight into female psychology that only the Casanovas of the past would have had. Thank you for your content. Keep posting you earned a sub with the first vid i watched!

[@foxmulder4653]

What women say they want, what women want and what they respond to are completely different things. They say they want a guy in touch with emotion but as soon as we show it, they naturally see us as weak. Stick to your guns gentlemen. Be yourself, if she doesn't like you, she's not the one

[@lumiere3619]

This isn't a woman thing, it's a people thing.

[@tamuman93]

@@lumiere3619 no. It’s a vvoman thing.

[@musashi542]

i dont know how u people find it okey to group women like they all say the same thing and thing the same things

[@tamuman93]

@@musashi542 - Because it’s easier than naming the seven or eight exceptions every single time. It’s funny to me how We can sit down and watch a National Geographic documentary on the lifestyle or mating habits of the African elephant, the orangutan, or the meerkat, and say to ourselves, “see how they act? That’s very interesting…. We might even watch a special on the Pygmies in The jungles of South America and discuss what we’ve learned about them at the water cooler the next morning.. But as soon as we share observations about Western vvomen, we get some nut that stands up and says NAWALT! Well guess what … AWALT! Perhaps instead of avoiding accountability in today’s society, vvomen should conduct them selves like adults, observe their behavior patterns and perhaps take some steps toward self improvement now and again. Men, Orcas and many other species do it all of the time. Why can’t vvomen? Why is their first line of defense, “NAWALT” or “Men do it too!”? 🤦‍♂️ PS. Now you know why those “u people” that you grouped together - do it. ;)

[@musashi542]

@@tamuman93 so we can group all men as ra**sts, wife beaters... and its alright according to you ?

[@danielhuelsman76]

I've noticed a weird paradox where women seem interested in guys who don't care about getting laid and ignore guys who do want to get laid.

[@supremelordoftheuniverse5449]

It's not a paradox at all.

[@danielhuelsman76]

@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 How so?

[@supremelordoftheuniverse5449]

@@danielhuelsman76 First of all, keep in mind women's sexual strategy is selfish, so to her, it doesn't matter what you want. So, from her perspective, when a man is chasing her, she can sense it and will interpret it as neediness, lack of options, which in turn means he is low value. In the other hand, a man that doesn't demonstrate interest is not only intriguing, but also comes accross as confident, showing he's has other priorities and possibly other options when it comes to women (which pre-vetts him as a good mate by proxy) and makes him the prize, the one with higher status, the one to be chased. And that challenge attracts woman.

[@danielhuelsman76]

@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 How about the idea of asexuality being sexually alluring, would that qualify as a paradox to you?

[@Ezberron]

@@danielhuelsman76 its not asexuality. it's sexual indifference. it's the difference between asexual "I don't want to have sex with you." and indifferent "I might or might not have sex with you, depending on how much I like you. I haven't decided" vs the thirsty "I want you baby. oh please oh please have sex with me." The focus is the relative value between guy and guy. If she thinks he's lower value, she's not interested. If she thinks he's higher value, she's interested. If the guy is "meh. I don't know about you. I mean you're cute and all...buuuut..." is basically saying "you're okay. but I've seen better." which flips the script on who's qualifying to who.

[@E-Cristo]

An incredible truth! You clearly and intelligently state what we men think.

[@Sydebern]

Honestly. It's all way too much of a hassle to me. I (man, 38 y/o) had 2 relationships in my life. Even though they were the most stressful frustrating times of my lives, i'm still glad i've got the experiences of having intimate relationships with women. There were also good sides to it and i've learned a lot. But having said that, when i hear what it takes to be a suitable man for a woman to choose me, i don't like having to do that for another person. I mean, i work to improve myself on many levels, but that's for me. I don't like the idea that a woman likes me because of all that i've accomplished. I would like a woman to just like - dare i say love - me for me. I am capable of that, why wouldn't a woman be? But i've been redpilled a while ago and just do not see this happening, knowing better the nature of women now. Man, i sound mighty pessimistic, don't i! Might look like i'm depressed, but i'm actually not. Last relationship was 1,5 years ago now. I won't lie: at times i miss the intimacy, but there's so much more that i definitely do not miss! I'm just glad that i'm a guy and on top of that an introvert. I'm fine on my own. You guys can have these women.

[@s0mekindof]

You sound like you have the rare natural gift of self-respect. Each time I notice another guy, who claims to be a successful alpha-male, talking a lot about female's desires I can't take him seriously anymore.

[@Tom-vq2hw]

Once you get over the grief of knowing that the connection you want can never exist, women just lose all appeal. I can't even feel attraction anymore, and I don't ever want to. The only reason I clean the pipes once a month is so I don't have to clean the sheets

[@Sydebern]

@@Tom-vq2hw The same seems to happen to me. I just don't look at women like that anymore. Outward pretty female appearance: doesn't faze me. First because it's all gone in a few years, second because a part of it is just make-up and third because there can be a truly nasty creature of a woman behind that. The only way i can probably feel attraction again is by seeing true feminine character/qualities in a woman. Maybe a bit TMI but i recognise the cleaning the pipes instead of having to change the sheets. After a while though, that last bit just stopped with me. Could be my age (38, almost 39 now), could also be the duration of no-f@p and the overcoming of my addiction to lust (be it through pr0n/f@pping/s@x with women). My mind isn't occupied with it anymore, so my body also stopped with it i guess.

[@bgrego88]

@@Tom-vq2hwonce you know you know

[@eluddite889]

The purpose of meeting a woman's hypergamous criteria is you have more choice in who you date, that's it. It doesn't mean you are guaranteed a girlfriend or that you can't get a girlfriend without those things. You can. It just dramatically improves your odds.

[@joseph6243]

But more importantly it makes your life better as a man, which should be the ultimate goal here.

[@00_UU]

But does it make you happy? Essentially, you are grinding to meet someone's criteria, but do they meet yours? Things will change when men actively start playing hypergamy game as well.

[@GeotouuotoeG]

@@00_UU there was a time in human history that this was happening for thousands of years. Be careful what you wish.

[@00_UU]

@@GeotouuotoeG be careful because? How is this bad for men?

[@GeotouuotoeG]

@@00_UU because of patriarchy men did what they wanted so women were oppressed. Now it is men who feel a form of oppression which is also partly because men dominated the past. Tomorrow it will be men again then women to a never ending circle. Balance is a utopia. People are idiotic and shellfish organisms.

[@handsomeX]

Its all about pure, raw, phyisical attraction when it comes to hooking up with women. Period. I'm a former Chippendales dancer, so i saw this unfold, in real time, every single show. A lot of women were willing to throw away their relationship for one night with us. And they were the ring leaders in the debauchery. Not saying we were angels either, dont get me wrong. But there were many instances where we've had to stop it from happening. But that being said, this is an EXTREME case that less than 1% of men will ever experience.

[@Joseph-C]

Raw physical attraction gets you access but doesn't necessarily keep them around. Women are just as happy as men are to use a person as a sex object and throw them away once they get bored. That said, I've had an alarming number of married women and women in relationships try to sleep with me. It makes me so sad for the men in their lives that I eventually developed a policy that I no longer sleep with women in relationships. I know how it makes that man feel and also I couldn't risk eventually taking some crazy guy's girl and having my house lit on fire.

[@handsomeX]

@Joseph-C Yeah the women at these shows were freaking nuts. And every single time, there were multiple different women that were ready and willing to hook up. Anywhere. It Didn't matter if they were married, engaged, had a boyfriend, young, old, or their race. They all acted the same.

[@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju]

@@handsomeX Based on your photograph and name, I really believe you. No judgement.

[@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju]

@@handsomeX However, you must factor in countries that aren't as developed as Western countries. In my country we were once ranked as "The most beautiful people in the world". But due to our economics, women value security faaaaar more than the exterior of the man

[@00_UU]

@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju and that's how it should be - security, reliability and trust. Comfortable Western life decayed all of those words in modern relationships. Bad relationship decisions of w3men are encouraged, while men are constantly portrayed as evil and st00pid on TV.

[@spruti5241]

You are the man! Appreciate your work and ideas!

[@ClarkeIllmatical]

One of the biggest mistakes I made in my 20s was thinking that money would equate to more women. I hit 6 figures and tried to use my career to bolster my self esteem. High value men must hit all check boxes, warrior , king, magician and lover. I’m his takes time, countless failures and patience. This is why younger women tend to be attracted to older men, they have done the work

[@Nordic_Sky]

Max 5 to 10 years older. Beyond that, no.

[@ClarkeIllmatical]

@@Nordic_Sky No. I am 46, I had a 27 year old offer herself for a long term relationship months ago. It all depends on the man and his success.

[@Nordic_Sky]

Good on you. It can happen, but if she's hot and in demand, very rare. @@ClarkeIllmatical

[@HenrySomeone]

@@ClarkeIllmatical How much of that was genuine attraction and how much was gold digging though? I've really almost never seen the former stretch much past a 10 year difference, no matter how good looking the guy was.

[@ClarkeIllmatical]

@@HenrySomeone It's the guy, really. Also, you'll learn that MOST women are gold diggers to a degree. Your mother, my mother, the man provided and the woman provided her body.

[@xanthippus9079]

The problem with aiming to be a "high-value man" through the eyes of women is that some characteristics considered attractive have little to no benefit to your life. Take physical exercise as an example. If you are a short and skinny looking guy, this might serve you well when running marathons, if that's what you're into. However, most women would never consider you to be at the top of the attraction pyramid. You should do an activity that you enjoy and to promote a healthy life style, but if you let hypergamy guide your motivation, you may end up doing activities you hate for a superficial reason.

[@toddjohnson271]

health, status, wealth, fitness are all good things for men....outside of it's alignment with attraction of females.

[@okaySam]

The point is, most things that are attractive to women are also beneficial from an objective pov. Exercising, being social, dressing well, making money will all improve your life. Almost all kinds of physical exercise are better than no exercise at all. Of course if you're ectomorphic/skinny, you should focus on lifting weights. You can learn to enjoy the stress of weightlifting. I'm speaking from experience. Once you learn to enjoy the discomfort, you've unlocked a new level in life.

[@Shuflin]

The shorter you are, the worse you are at running. Also marathon runners are not ‘skinny’, they’re slim. They have plenty more muscle than the average person.

[@xanthippus9079]

@@Shuflin I used skinny to refer to looks. And no, long distance runners tend to be shorter. Great marathon runners over the magical 6 feet tall (the bare minimum for many ladies) are rare.

[@xanthippus9079]

@@okaySam If you take those aspects in a broader sense, yes, they may be beneficial to you. However, women operate like Procrustes. And their standards tend to go up with time. Exercising is only attractive if it leads to a certain body type. Dressing well to impress women may be totally unnecessary for the man's professional life and requires some time and money. Making money is not what women really seek; it's men manking surplus money to spend on them. A man can live a satisfying and healthy life while being unnatractive to the average overweight single mother. Turning into a Ken doll may make some men happier, but it is not the ultimate path all shall follow. Women's maladaptive attraction be damned.

[@bobagorof]

As a guy who was told at an early age that "women will love you when you're older", and having spent the last 30-odd years failing to even get a second date, I've learned to not pursue women or sex. Whenever I consider it, I end up feeling depressed and empty. It's pretty clear that whatever I have to offer is, in fact, not valued - so for my own wellbeing I have decided to just focus on myself and not pursue any sort of relationship. I'm going to let women pursue whomever they want, and I'm just going to leave them to it and do what makes me happy. It's better for everyone.

[@danwallach8826]

I totally get this. Freud asked, "What Does a woman want?" Experience has told me that it ain't me. I came to understand I was de- selected. So what 's the trick? Take the pain. Life ain't fair. Do somethin' else.

[@globalsolidarity55]

I suppose this is why prostitution is "the oldest profession"

[@big6316]

Apparently, I was a Chad but really never knew it deep down. I never needed to approach, I always got approached and those were the women from whom I chose to have relationships with. I was never without women admirers but somehow thought I was not doing as well as most men, mostly because they always bragged about getting "multiple" women. I was never interested in having multiple women because it seemed like it took a lot of time, money and energy and I was loyal and had hobbies I liked better. Instead I stuck with one woman for 18 years, one for 12 and one for 15 and I never cheated. As someone who has seen some success in this area I can tell you that aside from being a fleeting ego boost, being attractive to women has only led me to temporary, short-lived, happiness while involved with them. I'm out of the game permanently now and just focusing on making myself happy as I am. It's a huge struggle and I think I''m very far behind a lot of men on that because of my early success with women. My point is that the grass is not greener where I was and am now. I think we should be thankful for the opportunity of life and commit to making the best of the cards we are dealt.

[@Coyote-wm5op]

I’m there right now. I’m 35. Fairly well established and working on a career and financial upgrade that should definitely be attainable. I look the best I ever have body building the last two years with no reason to stop. I dated/hooked up with several women in my 20’s. A lot of them were pulling some bs and my now former career was a hinderance. Now thing are so bad I can’t get a date. Been approached by six attractive women in the last year. 2 were married, 2 engaged, and 2 crazies that went back to abusive ex’s. Ridiculous. I think most of them don’t want to make a choice.

[@Nordic_Sky]

Southeast Asia, my friend. You're welcome.

[@kevinshilo]

You really hit the biggest problem on the right spot. I would love to watch longer videos about these topics. I honestly think they are a little to short.

[@lukehonegger8113]

man out here preaching words worth gold

[@cokebottles6919]

Starting a relationship with a good woman is extremely difficult, but once a foundation has been built, it's more about consistency and doesn't require the extreme expectations that many insinuate from talks like this. A good woman will make your life much better, the problem is, like there are only so many men in the top 10%, there are only so many good women and they're almost always taken by their late 20s, usually earlier. It's a human problem, not strictly a female problem. This is where stoicism is so useful. Control what you can, be self-aware and improve what you reasonably can, and put yourself in places where you could meet someone. But know you can do everything right and never meet someone worth spending your life with. That's all a man can do. You have a high chance of dying alone and childless, so do something fulfilling with your time, doing that thing is also what gives your a greater shot at attracting a good woman.

[@ItsMeChillTyme]

The thing is,if you're a top 20%er then women are much more tolerant of your inconsistencies. It is impossible to be consistent all the time. When women hit the wall, it's why they become so tolerant and keep themselves around even through troubling times. They don't have much for options. But when you're just above average and you slip up in any aspect, the clock starts ticking rapidly and everyone else starts looking like a better option to them than you.

[@HenrySomeone]

Saying that it's extremely difficult is still selling it short. You literally have less than 1 in a 1000 chance for that to happen and that's if you're pretty high up on the men list yourself. If not...just forget it.

[@isaacsanford6340]

@@HenrySomeone In spite of the way cokebottles frames his argument (which I found very persuasive), you do not end up with one chance at this. There are uncountable variables at work every single day, and each reasonable instance is a new chance.

[@michaeljmyers1995]

My way of dating is to not be disappointed in a woman who shows her true self and i dont like it. Being honest and sometimes brutality honest while also trying to be successful and she'll either stand by you and support you or she'll get tired of you in the first month. Honesty is the best filter

[@robertsteinbach7325]

Rightly said. That is the original purpose of dating, to see if there is compatibility for a long-term relationship. If it isn't going to work out at least you know early on.

[@aaronclarke1434]

Exactly. It’s a false dichotomy to say it’s blackpill or bluepill. You can be honest and focus exclusively on improving what you can control.

[@Brc-kg1mg]

Fantastic video as always doc. As Alex Hormozi said, the work works on you more than you work on it. You become a completely different person that will attract even more success whether it be in the dating market, physically or financially.

[@gary6514]

Just discovered this channel.....this guy is good. Solid and truthful facts superbly conveyed. Well done.

[@StreetFig]

100% of men can't become the top 10% of men. The math ain't mathing

[@theplayer2286]

Single women at 20: "Don’t talk to me!” Single women at 30: “Somebody please talk to me!” Single women at 40: “Hey! I’m talking to you!” Single women at 50: “Here Kitty, Kitty.”

[@carlosemiralonso7997]

Classic!

[@L5biszz]

XD

[@chicbate]

Wow your mother failed you. I'm so sorry.

[@caliburxzero]

​@@chicbateI'm sorry the truth hurts honey.

[@chicbate]

a bunch of socially awkward men who whine like little boys doesn't hurt me sweetie @@caliburxzero

[@gombaobariokpa1352]

No one has ever said it like this. Thanks alot. This is indeed very helpful

[@ghostbeetle2950]

Appreciate the clarity and candor! Thanks.

[@rickjamz]

I understand the female selection process perfectly. As long as they need something from you, you're in but every guy hopes that it's sex. When it's not sex, you'll get used for your utility, money, work, influence etc. You'll get used until she gets what she wants or the guy stops giving her what she wants. Relationships are DEAD!

[@JJ-wi2uw]

Then she has the option to divorce you and get a nice big payout for you having married her.

[@David-ej1ps]

but facts

[@michaelmccormack494]

Not necessarily. We just have to learn how to steer our boats EARLIER in life, as in get good fatherly advice. I had zero, literally zero, but at last taught myself how to steer. You've GOT to be equally good with no partner as you are with the right one, should she come along. The wrong one? Jibe or tack, brothers; move on, move away. And stay universes away from the hookup game.

[@FASBLAQUE]

Spoken like the attitude of a true toddler. Grow up!🙄😏

[@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb]

70% of women are liberal and woke 🤣 70% ... Men are 70% conservative more even... We miles apart and it will NEVER be forgotten or forgiven what the female vote has ushered in. 70% wokeness in women and you wanna say "just keep at it". They going to die alone in hookup culture sharing Chad and his simps as men will not settle for shit

[@peacehunter26]

A big shout out to the pickup community. They, more than any group, identified and presented this information. And the response to hypergamy or the strategies have also been identified. GAME.

[@AnimexBoy7]

Exactly this is how you deal with inauthenticity and NPCs who don't know how to be their genuine selves

[@latt.qcd9221]

I agree that the response to hypergamy is to decide that it's not worth it and just game instead.

[@openranks4519]

Pickup artists?? Dude you’re lame 😂

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Evolutionary psychologists contributed way more than pick up artists.

[@adamt.7376]

The wiser response is being happy single.

[@DynamicUnreal]

Imagine the best version of yourself as a man and then work towards making what you envisioned a reality. Don’t do it for women, do it for yourself. When you get there, walk with pride in knowing all that you’ve accomplished.

[@Mr5Davis]

What a great breakdown! Love this

[@mrsherwood2599]

As a professional musician I pull them easily, even now in my 50s. I have learned to keep it brief and move on. When they discover what a sweetheart I actually am, not an aloof rock god, their attraction usually dies.

[@dragoscosma84]

hmmm, that might be the case that they are just shitty humans

[@toddjohnson271]

Loving the archetype....not you.

[@ninamartin1084]

A sweetheart who uses language like 'pull them easily'....not exactly my definition of a sweetheart

[@mrsherwood2599]

@ninamartin1084 I don't care what you think. You're a random ignorant person on KZbin. You exist in near-infinite abundance.

[@edwardyoutube]

When initiated as a means to win the game of women's hypergamy, the path to self-improvement is likely to become a lost cause. By the time you physically, financially, and psychologically reach that point (and that's IF you do), you will have aged, and your mindset will have shifted so dramatically that you will have lost most interest in playing the game to begin with. It may be an unpopular opinion, but I believe that men who are truly successful with women possess partially inborn characteristics and acquire the remaining attributes during childhood and the teenage years. I can tell by experience and by observation, the number one attribute to get women is raw physical attraction, followed by having game. So, a guy who is tall, about 12-15% body fat and with above average facial features will have it very easy in his 20s and 30s, even with below average game skills. If you lack height and the other physical features listed above, then you need charisma and savoir faire, here's where game skills become important. If you lack both physical attributes and game skills, your best bet is money and status, which will enable you to get all the sex you want, but you will only be used and played by women, just don't forget that. It is what it is, not everyone can be in the top 10% obviously.

[@DragonDevil100]

very true

[@helioshyperion8077]

exactly, the conclusion is, stop playing the game cuz its a loop boys, u will chase your own tail, u will never ever reach the top 1% its an infinity point, what women basicaly ask for is a god creature that can transform matter into energy and vice versa. its a lost cause. stop listening to con artists trying to sell you their course so u can ''game'' women. only solution i have for u is stay fit, lift weight get in shape and that for health physical and mental health, women are drawn into this basic trait, fk that ''have game have money'' u will end up being scammed by women, she will play it soo good u will never believe she played u and all her ''love'' was a lie. in the end u will be left with nothing. peace

[@fastheartmartvideos]

I Love This Guy! He says radical things in an eloquent way.

[@hosackies]

Hey Doc you thumbnail artwork is pretty cool! thanks

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Just to be clear, even if you do have good looks, money and status, and you also are a good lifestyle and emotional fit for her, you can still end up divorced 7 years down the line, as women reserve the right to change their minds once you have bought her the diamond ring, house and given her kids. She'll probably get emotionally bored and want to move onto a new exciting guy. RIP non-MGTOW's.

[@alb12345672]

I could never understand why women leave top tier hollywood men. Always thought looks and $$$ is 90% of what women want.

[@k.powell1634]

This is exactly what happened to me... It cost the children the most. The modern woman is sick. Truly sick.

[@neetea2]

If your mgtow why are you here ?

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

@@neetea2 to learn, to change my mind if I am wrong, to teach my son, to share my understanding/experiences with others, etc etc

[@Starlight-mp4pk]

@@alb12345672 goes to show how naïve and clueless you are (like most commenters here). Looks and money are great, but they’re no use if you’re an arsehole or the chemistry just isn’t right.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

Yes. I’ve said this before on other “manosphere” related videos. The high value men that I know, dudes who have money, looks, character perhaps, are not swimming in a sea of female sexual options. They’re either married or hang out at strip clubs and bars a lot. The guys i know who get the most women, are not exactly getting hot women very often. And those guys aren’t what I’d consider “financially stable “ either. They’re kind of mirror a lot of train wreck women I’ve encountered. Lots of debt, emotionally unstable, jobs where the stress and wages don’t line up, always seeking escape, etc. Kinda funny how it all comes full circle

[@js9273]

Agreed - like attracts like. And the "high value" men still have to meet someone who is compatible with them.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

there is no such thing as a "high value man". just ask bill gates, jeff bezos, elon musk, brad pitt, johnny depp, tom brady, dr dre, kanye west, tyrese, etc etc and all the other divorced millionaires. babies and child support and wedding rings are high value, not the man.

[@anthonydunkley7844]

You sound like hater bro. Mad those chads got some and you didn't and now you want to get sanctimonious about it

[@monkeyboyalcoholic]

@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 Nailed it!

[@joseph6243]

Yeah, in real life most players just munch on the low hanging fruit. Most guys who are naturally good with women marry young.

[@eduardoceballos9421]

one of your best videos man, thanks for sharing

[@mvphung007]

Very interesting. I've never heard it explained this way. Thank you.

[@jakesdekker7503]

The only payoff of hypergamy is that you are finally free from the claws of someone who sucked your soul dry while she lived under your roof. I’m not accepting the “it is just in their nature”, thereby excusing them from this innate behaviour. I’m still not French-kissing a scorpion. It’s a scorpion.

[@TraeZoe]

Right.. im black.. i might as well be broke, rob someone, and eat chicken.. jus in my nature

[@ron1836]

​@@TraeZoehahaha

[@ams6454]

You're going down a dangerous path. Understand women, don't hate them. They are the way they are for a reason, and you can't dislike them for their innate characteristics. Understand them so you can anticipate their next move and stay ahead of them, and keep your sanity intact

[@josephinetracy1485]

Why do random stray men project their failures upon billions of strangers?

[@chelsy2255]

@jakesdekker7503 there's two to tango and things happen for a reason. i'm sure you're not completely innocent.

[@Mideezhanti]

I approve of this message. It's pretty spot on.

[@pedrobarbieri5039]

Excellent content with nuance and depth. The more I learn about this the more is clear to me that women and men are definitely not made equal and we must navigate accordingly or else sink.

[@d3r4g45]

yea struggle, work your ass off 20 years to build up a career, high salary, get jacked, become the top 10%.. only to get something she has been handing over for free to clowns each night..

[@toddjohnson271]

And she will divorce you.....at that point you just have enough money to survive it.

[@Shayster-_-]

this right here….😭😭😭😭

[@ninamartin1084]

Are you angry with her, or the clowns?

[@martonhorvath482]

This video is like a winning lottery ticket and/or almost every sentence of it hits like a lightning bolt! Seriously, it's so accurate and useful that it should be made mandatory in schools wherever possible!!!! THIS _is_ the real deal ‘bout gender senzitization/awareness. Thank you very much and congratulations!

[@sypros5621]

😂

[@HCforLife1]

In my opinion this is a blue pill video. Most men can't get to the top 5-10% club in women's term. You will be usually either too ugly or too short. It's now mostly about looks. Hypergamy don't benefit men. It's only benefiting the very top percentage of men. And that top percentage base only on women definition. You can be top 1% by men's definition, and they still prefer to date broken model, or handsome tall drug diller. Avoid being best version of yourself just to attract woman. This is usually genetic contest. Nothing about your passions, hobbies, intelligence or spirit.

[@aciuschristophores7789]

This was brilliant. I came into this not expecting much or perhaps a RedPill/whiny answer like most KZbin videos, but this was amazing. You are knowledgeable and articulate in the top 10% if not 1% like Jordan peterson.

[@the_Spirit_of_Green]

Fascinating. You got me thinking again. Thank you brother.

[@SuperSupersoda]

I wish videos like this existed when I was a young man, but my entire life, I was lied to. When these truths started to finally come out about ten years ago, I was already who I was, and past a certain point, change is nearly impossible. To point #1, I find that the pursuit of becoming a high value man is in direct conflict with attempting to approach women; there is a fixed time trade-off, and pursuit of women takes time away from building status. The final point is the truth; I remember when I first started dating in the 1990s, the bar was much, much lower than it is today. Dating apps were not a thing, heck, cell phones and email were not a thing when I started dating. The shift towards most of the nation's wealth being in the hands of men, to now most of the nation's wealth being in the hands of women hadn't happened yet. Men need superior status to a woman to date that woman; but as woman have greatly increased their own social status in the last 30 years, the bar that they are looking for a man to clear has skyrocketed. That's why men are walking away, it's not that we think the juice isn't worth the squeeze, it's that there is no way in hell it actually is.

[@boggy7665]

"most of the nation's wealth being in the hands of the top few percent of men or women" < there, ifify

[@carynefuture5778]

Many women and pretty women still have average or below average jobs...So, women's, hypergamy is still beneficial for BOTH...

[@MarcusVinnie-xl6nk]

Except women do not want an average men with a good income unless he is also tall and good looking. Otherwise he has to basically be rich. Men are are better forgeting about women.

[@johnmcevoy3598]

57, never married, never cared. I like what I do, I have friends, I live as I please. I figured I'd let my friends get married first, and see how it turned out for them. Almost to a one, the marriages disintegrated, leaving broken families, asymmetrical parental influence, etc. Live for your own interests, and if someone wants to join you on part of your journey, great. Stay true to your path. The only thing worse than someone criticizing how you spend your time or money - is actually caring what they think.

[@karolisz815]

True that

[@paulalarcon7329]

We are lacking something. Well in fact, someone. We-need-Jesus

[@capoeiradude35]

I was at a mixer with people I worked with and people I didn't know(ya know, a mixer😅). There was an ok looking woman that I approached and she crossed her arms and literally STOMPED at me like I was a stray dog. Then, 4 female coworkers formed a semi circle and said hi and gave me a hug. They left after a short chat. The first stompy woman's body language opened up and she looked like she was open to talking to me. I just looked at her, nodded, turned around and walked away. It was rather rewarding.

[@Shakazulu555]

I've had a girl joke about me being a serial killer...it was odd and rude. I didn't like that I had to prove I wasn't. It was just a date. I'm an intimidating looking guy but I treat people with manners and courtesy, and it is horrible to deal with this every time.

[@Leptoszom]

I just wanted to the you, I feel you buddy!

[@vecter]

Use humor to turn it around. Women like when a man can do verbal jiu-jitsu

[@ninamartin1084]

Don't blame her - blame the serial killers! Who are mostly (always?) men!

[@jackspringer3039]

If she jokes about me being a serial killer, say: "No what are the odds of two serial killers sitting at one table?" Or "Yes I am a serial killer and I am looking for a partner."

[@jamesdotson1080]

Pre selection has a steamrolling effect. I moved frequently in my late teens and early to mid 20's and every time I did move I had to restart the process of building my reputation with the women of that area. I had to put much more effort to pick up women at first than say a several months into moving and having success. The reason for that was both word of mouth, women DO talk about how you are in bed and everything else that goes along with the seduction process and secondly, they have eyes and if they constantly see a guy is always around and has success with lots of attractive women it is social proof he is worth going for in a romantic/sexual sense. This would culminate eventually with me being in the position of women approaching me and asking for sex. Not with nearly the frequency I was still initiating the encounters but still with a frequency that most men just could not believe unless they saw it happen. This all happened pre internet/smart phone/dating apps and was almost a word of mouth blue check mark by today's standards. In short, success with women leads to more and easier success.

[@boggy7665]

Ha! My 1st roommate after leaving parental nest, was a muscular, outgoing, happy-go-lucky, good looking scots-irish-curly blonde 25-yo fellow. Didn't have a lot going intellectually (couldn't read, big income potential nearly zilch), but had wisdom around women. To paraphrase, "Easy to get more women when you have one already hanging on your arm". When he was home, there were very often two or three hot young ladies, friends group, there just passing the time.

[@mathias1dk]

I'm a rather young guy, I'm currently in the process of going from a low status minimum wage job to a high status job in a different sector. From previous experience and jumps up and down the status ladder, I already knew that the worlds that we live in are quite different, but I am still shocked about how different I am treated. In a low status job, my existence would hardly be recognized, and sometimes people wouldn't believe what I said was true. No woman would be willing sexualize me, not even remotely. When your status rises, it is almost as if you are reborn, and people suddenly recognize your existence. People look and smile at you before you even said a word. A nice feeling, but I can't help but get extremely saddened by how I and other people, who were ambitious and capable people the whole time, just lacking status, never got the chance to have a try...

[@arjunchatterjee1696]

It will make you start believing in astrology. No, not the elle magazine type astrology. Real astrology. Your status change comes with a change in other aspects of your life that make you more desirable, they are shallow creatures, so all of the types of things that being shallow comes with, you are able to acquire those things once you reach a better position in your career.

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

Same. I work hard, really hard, as a dish washer. Women treated me always like crap. They would yell at me, call me ugly and insult me.

[@Tom-vq2hw]

And of course the new attention you get is absolutely worthless, because nobody wants to be liked for a few things that they've recently done. People want to be loved for who they are. Chasing status is completely and absolutely pointless apart from the resources it brings. It cannot make you feel any more seen as a person. The only way to do that is to force yourself on others

[@mminniear984]

All I took from this is “the juice is not worth the squeeze”. It’s lose/lose unless you’re looking/charismatic and rich. If you don’t have all things they want, you’re on the bench or at the best a consolation prize when she’s losing her looks.

[@mnash_mcm18]

You are talking facts, sir. Highly respect what you are saying. I am 21 and trying to understand women.

[@ninamartin1084]

Talk to your mom. She's a woman.

[@myvideoplayingdevice9114]

here's what he DIDN'T tell you hypergamy NEVER goes away. Once she knows she has you. She'll begin to look around to see if she can do better.

[@chelsy2255]

Yes, it's the way things should be. And there's benefits to that, cause women have to up their game constantly which ultimately will benefit men. Women learned that of men. men are always looking around, aren't they? Two can play that game. Men can dish it, but can't take it.

[@unconsciouscreator3012]

@@chelsy2255 Here's the deal Chelsy. Some folks here talk about men and women. Some folks talk about men, women and family/common law. Still, others live in a grey zone where they are influenced by the laws of the nation in their thoughts and behaviours, but do not understand the difference between the 2 way or 3 way relationship that we are all engaged in and how it affects their own inner dialogue. Girls need to, need to! understand the courts do not care what is in your pants. This discussion is about who provides, not about who is a man or woman. Many, many normal every day women have to take days off work so that their wages are not taken by some random boyfriend they moved in with for a few months that had kids. If you enter this subject thinking about men and women you put yourself in grave danger, especially if you have a job. This is not a game when you grow up and have earnings. If you have earnings and your spouse does not, the courts could enslave you and ruin your whole life. You can have skin in the game or not, your choice. Stay safe!

[@jasonjon]

nope. men benefit from living simple lives of blissful tranquility, not "upping their game". @@chelsy2255

[@helioshyperion8077]

cuz he is one of those ''buy my course to attract the other gender'' dudes of course he doesnt say the whole picture truthfuly, he needs to market it, after all he is in that game of psychology and marketing cuz market psychology doesnt change. sadly he has made good points but he still hasnt answered my one concern and problem. which is "How do we kill hypergamy so it stops pushing these problems" none of this ''hypergamy is for you,hypergamy is good"" bullshet applies, if a man wants to be the best version of himself he will do it regardless of being pushed by women's sexual selection or not. he misses that. i see more problems from hypergamy than positives. he made only 1 valid point, hypergamy pushes men to become a better version of themselves, YEAH only the 10% it works, how is it good if it only applies to the 10% of the population? hint, ITS NOT. how about we ask how much collateral problem we get from a societal point, infidelity/amoral principles/kids born out of wedlock with single mothers, creating a sick generation. guess what? he doesnt tackle that, cuz that doesnt go with his narrative. he is very good psychological manipulator, he doesn't attack hypergamy for what it truly is ( an inferior, bad cope survival mechanism ) but makes sure to complement it so women will take his course of course. (marketing purposes) yeah i dont buy it.

[@helioshyperion8077]

@@chelsy2255 it won't, what he said in the video, is basicaly a key word narrative to hit naive and narrowheads like yourself, to explain you, no matter how much you up your game it wont benefit you because you are in the same loop you started from, you will chase and chase with no end until you will become old and still think what went wrong. the sooner men realise the game cannot be won, the sooner you will stop playing the game and the sooner hypergamy dies.

[@infidelheretic923]

The things that make you more attractive to women are usually the same things that make you a better more capable man in general.

[@chelsy2255]

exactly so. truth. all these whingers don't deserve the time and energy. they're probably looking for a replacement for their mothers but one that can get them laid either. pathetic. 90% of men are just pathetic.

[@philipgilliam3400]

You NAILED IT!

[@Ohio_Greg]

Great video. Very helpful. I can testify that this is true... especially in New York City.

[@ArtinJ]

This video made me feel better than just feeling inadequate. Thank you, Orion!

[@keepitreal2902]

I got together with my wife when i was 23. We have struggled together and grown together over 30 years. My advice is to find someone decent at a young age and stay with them for life, before hypergamy becomes dominant as it does in later years. I wasnt top 10% in looks or financially, just found someone decent at a young age, and never wanted to change that. We're still great 30 years later. I'd hate to be on the dating market now...

[@MyersMonroe]

This is the truth

[@LADlifeafterdivorce]

We live in a post marriage age my man, it’s off the menu.

[@jameseverett9037]

You probably can't bring yourself to accept that you were just lucky, but it's understandable. We all think "if I could, anyone can." But it's a hollow assumption, made from a blind guess that everyone must be "just like me". It just happened to be one of the lessons of my life that stood out: anything I could do that the average person could not, was due to "special talent" that I was "blessed" with, while anything others could do that I could not, was only because I "didn't apply myself" sufficiently. It never mattered that I would explain the details of how much time and effort I put into something, it will STILL a "gift" that I was given, because the people telling me this had actually tried for a few minutes one day and found that they just didn't have the 'natural' ability. I got to see that people are very funny in the way they view things: once they get an idea in their head, there is no reasoning or amount of explanation that can get it out.

[@Jake-py4lf]

It’s hell bro, just be happy and don’t look at our generation of content, the internet has ruined everything ESPECIALLY women, it WILL subconsciously fuck with your brain.

[@Nethemas]

I went that route myself. Unfortunately, at that age I was too naive, too unaware. I didn't know what I wanted/needed, and I definitely didn't recognize how broken and incapable my wife was. There's never really been a "together" in any of it. The full weight was and has always been on me and nearly all the benefit on her. While I have grown and come into my own, she's the same unaccountable, emotionally stunted child she's ever been. If you're looking for a solution it isn't here either. Perhaps there's something to the strategy of first making yourself then going to find the unmade woman 10 years your junior. Alas, too late for me, I'm already committed.

[@8Smoker8]

"I'm not there yet", dude, love the confidence!

[@CarCosmeticsChannel]

Great video. You gave a new look to how men are the ones who benefit from their own hard work on improving and being the best version of themselves. Men just need to realise that women will always be looking for something better, (ALWAYS) and in the end of their constant search this person doesn't exist. It reminds me of the joke/story 'Husband Super Store' It was laid out over five floors, with the men increasing in positive attributes as you ascended. The only rule was, once you opened the door to any floor, you HAD to choose a man from that floor; if you went up a floor, you couldn't go back down except to leave the place, never to return. A couple of girlfriends went to the shopping center to find some husbands... First floor The door had a sign saying, "These men have jobs and love kids." The women read the sign and said, "Well, that's better than not having a job or not loving kids, but I wonder what's further up?" So up they went. Second floor The sign read, "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, and are extremely good looking." "Hmmm," said the ladies, "But I wonder what's further up?" Third floor This sign read, "These men have high paying jobs, are extremely good looking, love kids and help with the housework." "Wow," said the women, "Very tempting." But there was another floor so further up they went. Fourth floor This door had a sign saying "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking, help with the housework and have a strong romantic streak." "Oh, mercy me," they cried, "Just think what must be awaiting us further on!" So up to the fifth floor they went. Fifth floor The sign on that door said, "This floor is empty and exists only to prove that women are fucking impossible to please.

[@RShaun]

It definitely sounds like a lose lose for men. My personal experience doesn’t feel as bleak, even as an obese man but I only proximity dated so my conversation always helped with a subset that really enjoy that trait over others. I wouldn’t try to date today if my life depended on it. Because I have felt a shift towards misandry in casual interactions. I’m not friendly to people who assume the worst in me constantly. Easier for me to walk away than be demonized.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

long relationships tend to be lose-lose for men. if it doesn't work out you could end up losing your money, house and kids in divorce. if it does work out, she will end up moaning, complaining, causing drama and chaos, and you lose access to other women. the juice isn't worth the squeeze, gentlemen.

[@davesmith826]

I crave sex too much to ever stop dating, but I've also picked up on the shift you talk about. I've slept with ten women in the past year and only three of them did not hold what could politely be called questionable attitudes towards men. The rest were flagrant or closeted misandrists who viewed men like Christian fundamentalists view humans: tainted by Original Sin. I feel sorry for the young men growing up in this world. I remember what it was like to date in the early 2000s. Men were not judged for being men and women did not approach them with a mixture of contempt, hypocrisy and greed. One of the woman I slept with earlier in the year came to my city on holiday from abroad. She was clearly in a relationship - writing lightning fast texts to her partner when I was paying for drinks or going to the toilet. She expected me to pay for everything even though she proudly told me how much she earns - about 50% more than me. I footed the bill because I knew she'd put out, which she did, but she stopped me in the act because she realised she was making a mistake and high-tailed it out of my place soon after. I laughed my ass off at that. Just imagine how deluded and disingenuous you have to be to do all of those things and STILL present yourself as a victim. This woman worked for one of the world's largest banks, was privately educated from a young age, and had a celebrity dentist for a father (clients including Hollywood actors).

[@MsMojomaster]

@@davesmith826 thanks for sharing bro, you wrote with experience and wisdom, most of the guys share only to flex about how many women they get

[@cisvaughan6937]

So you basically treated a woman in a relationship like a prostitute, plying her with drink to get her to drop 'em, then think its her attitude problem when she comes to her senses in time before you can spray her with whatever you've picked up by having ten throwaway liasons per year?

[@davesmith826]

@@cisvaughan6937 I didn't 'treat' her to anything. She came to me looking for sex, not the other way around, and she did so by setting up a temporary profile on a dating app. She lined a date up with me within a *day* of arriving in my city and she was only here for a week. I'd love to hear your justification for that lapse of judgement. As for alcohol, I didn't 'ply' her with anything - I actually suggested a meal - but she wanted drinks instead, so I went along. Nor did I 'spray' her with anything as I practise safe sex - the only spraying would have been on and into latex, had it come to that. Have you got any more cliches up your sleeve? Your attempt to paint me as the problem in this situation is really very amusing. It's *precisely* what I meant about original sin - men are always the problem, even when they clearly are not.

[@idkwhattonamethis8593]

This is why I'm single now. I often simply decline to do the backflips that many women request of me to give them my commitment and access to my resources. Or I could get there but they push too hard for a relationship before I've been shown enough to cut other women off. I've always been decent with women and I've since made myself very successful (top 3%) and in turn I'm very busy and very picky with who I spend time with and how I spend my resources. If a womam isn't top notch and showing reciprocal interest, I'm just not going to do backflips and act like she's so much better than me that I'd just be lucky to be around her, which is how it seems many women these days want you to act. I don't know any of these women yet either so I understand starting at 0, but she's at 0 too in my book. I don't want and wouldn't accept just any woman so if there is any prooving to be done, in my mind, it's at least mutual. The issue I have with this paradigm is it gives women the gaul to be a little cute (or not) and tell a top 3% man to impress her without considering what that kind of man wants or thinking she should have to be that, even though she stands to be the primary beneficiary of their association, and she should actually probably be the one trying to impress him.

[@amazinggrace313]

In a perfect world you’d be right but you fail to include the trump card women have. Many men want to have sex with them and those men can’t even help it because of testosterone and such. Women can do that shit and they most certainly do.

[@ogreact8748]

Earned yourself another subscriber. Keep up the good content

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

As an average looking guy who has had periods of doing quite well with women in a western country, here’s what stood out about Orion’s message here: you need to have something about you that makes girls feel comfortable in your presence if you want them to consider sex. If you meet the attraction floor (which varies among different women), then your next step is to make them feel comfortable enough to let you inside their bodies. That’s not easily done. You need to make them feel relaxed, like they’re having fun, that you’re not gonna judge them, that you’re gentle, etc etc. After being an incel until age 19, to having a year of a new girl every month at about 25, I was amazed at how once you kinda develop a formula for seducing women that you start to feel like you can’t miss. Finally, you also gotta have the mindset that while I hope to have sex with this woman, even if we don’t, I don’t care and I’m gonna just enjoy meeting this new person and getting to know them. The good thing is that if you’re already hitting some ass, then you genuinely won’t care if you don’t f*ck the girl presently in front of you, which means you don’t have that awks desperation about you and that in turn makes them more comfortable, etc etc.

[@annatalig2565]

As a woman I think you hit the nail on the head. In fact - when a guy has a vibe where he’s not pushy for sex and we can’t tell if he even wants to sleep with us - it actually raises our interest.

[@peterrichins3275]

You identify yet another reason why interest from some women leads to heightened and broader interest in other women. Not only do the others see that you are someone worth competing for, and who has already been vetted by another woman, but you also don't have that stink of desperation.

[@carlospita6442]

Too much work for so little reward