Pt. II | INTERCOOLER FANS on SAND | Low Speed - High Load | Landcruiser 200 series off-road

[@chrisgraham1179]

Haters can FO mate, don’t justify or give them air. Keep the videos coming. Good work and it’s good to see an honest person providing an honest review. So many reviewers claim someone works when it clearly doesn’t

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate. Glad most viewers appreciate the content. I'm only here to share my rationale and results to help others make informed decisions. All the best to those who wish to fit fans to their cruisers, I only wish I could get some benefit from them.

[@HendriMouton]

Someone actually making a solid effort to put the theories to the test. Well done, love the informative content

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed the series. Thanks, Nathan.

[@dustyfarmer]

Comprehensive, concise and conclusive.

[@XploringOz]

Cheers, thanks mate.

[@Steve_MFr]

Really nice vid. Spent some time a while back looking at IC temps on a Porsche turbo - I know how much time it takes. And I did not film myself. :-p One thing that most people do not realize: a fan actually moves relatively little air, especially when compared to what is blown through by driving. It obviously varies quite a bit from from installation to installation, but fans generally only provide a benefit under 30-35kph. After that, they are only along for the ride in a best case and block the airflow in many other cases. As such, they do more harm than good. Which is exactly the solution you came to.

[@XploringOz]

For sure, every vehicle is going to be slightly different, but I do believe fans are generally limited in their functionality.

[@stevespatrol]

Great tests mate with data to prove it. These diesel tuners that push the sale of these fans clearly don’t test these products like you do and con their customers out of good coin. 👍👍👍 love ya work.

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, appreciate that 🙏 For sure, I honestly thought these would work and was seriously surprised at the results, but I'm glad I did this type of testing!

[@felixthecat1672]

Facts don't lie. Great video mate, thanks for the effort.

[@XploringOz]

Agreed! Cheers mate.

[@and7976]

This is a quality video. Awesome work. The amount of work put into it is really shows.

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it!

[@rogercole9942]

I've taken mine off after this sequel. Replaced by a bit of fly screen which will offer some practical benefit. Some other points for those still interested. They will damage fins when nuts and leaves inevitably get in there. Something else I cannot backup with evidence.. it felt like my in cab supply air temperature went up at times. This was on a 76 series landcruiser.

[@XploringOz]

It will be interesting to hear whether you notice much of a change in the vehicle's characteristics. Thanks for sharing those considerations, definitely something to keep in mind and interesting to hear about your observations in regards to in cab temps.

[@tanamite]

Good work Nathan, well done for following up on the previous tests. It was really disappointing to see the response from a particular establishment in NSW. What I like about your approach is that you design and execute experiments that are relevant or of interest to your audience and report facts based on the data you have captured, and your context, in a logical way. You don’t rubbish anyone or anything. So I’m happily staying subscribed to you.

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate, I appreciate the feedback. I too am extremely disappointed with the response from a reputable company. Although they may not agree with the results, their response was a little immature, but thats OK. Not everyone has to agree with me or pick a side, I'm here to share my results so that others can make an informed decision. I hope my future videos can continue to provide this level of quality. Much appreciate, Nathan.

[@sueneilson896]

1998 Patrols used an intercooler fan below the cooler. This wouldn’t restrict the airflow like top mounted fans. Later models lost the fan, as it wasn’t needed. I found that the 98 patrol fan only started under the heaviest load conditions, like prolonged deep sand.

[@XploringOz]

Yeah, much more efficient mounted underneath and pulling through. I also did this to my GU patrol a few years back and it was activated by a thermal switch. Cheers, Nathan.

[@hoctan8086]

Hi . Please check to total watts of these 2 fans , temperature went up due to more alternator loans added to the 2 fans . Even with good cooling , the 2 fan will cause the alternator to run more and temp will go up .

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, so even if the alternator was working harder, this will only prove that these fans are not worth the investment. Saying this, I don't believe that these two fans will have any significant bearing on the temperature of the charged air intakes. If the vehicle is working harder to turn the alternator, then the load is placed onto the combustion chamber, not onto the intake airflow (prior to combustion). Further, I have a lot of electrical equipment running in this vehicle and the alternator can cope with this gear just fine, the addition of these two small fans would be negligible.

[@krump743]

What a shame you have to spend the first part of the clip justifying your stance to the youtube fk heads out there. Good video none the less. My old evo VI had intercooler spray jets. I wonder if a spray kit with fans would provide any significant results to a 4wd.... time for u to test that theory 😉🤣.

[@XploringOz]

Yeah, it's unfortunate, however everyone is entitled to their opinion. I only aim to provide some information in the big picture so that people can go out there and make informed decisions for themselves. Hopefully this video can provide a new perspective on these fans. I reckon it would definitely provide a benefit and I actually ran a water sprayer on my GU patrol. The only downsides with this is the finite amount of water that could be carried vs the gains provided from it. Further, I have heard stories about water sitting in the 'V' of the engine block and causing damage over long term... I'm thinking a full intercooler replacement would be a good test also, however they aren't cheap and I'm still trying to justify whether they are worth the investment and value...

[@franklowe3798]

Good job ! Nathan love your work, keep up your great vids I’ve been waiting for this test for what seems like an eternity, Eternally thankful🚙

[@XploringOz]

Awesome, thanks mate. Glad it could help you out!

[@nickroberts7070]

Respect your work mate.

[@XploringOz]

Much appreciate mate. Cheers.

[@raybourne5781]

Kinda like a lot of mods people do.... not really warranted when you spend more time on the black top.... you’ll get more bang for buck by spending money on a trip or Mrs

[@XploringOz]

For sure, agreed. Some people get caught up with the minor details, although fun to muck around, generally isn't worth the effort or expense.

[@jorjimaco5331]

People should spend money on a good transmission cooler set up, far more effective, but cruzer owners need to spend money on everything anyway! Just trying to change the colour of shit. Great job 👏

[@Mr_Cruisin]

Love the vid and the information. Its good to see this gear get tested.

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate, glad to hear you enjoyed it.

[@robbies4x4adventures]

Another great video mate. Thanks again for the effort and sharing.

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, glad you got some value from it. Cheers, Nathan.

[@shanenorwell8580]

Excellent info mate. Does go to show how inefficient the factory intercoolers are though. Ideally a quality intercooler will bring the air as close as possible back to ambient temperature.

[@XploringOz]

Yes, definitely one of the draw backs from a top mounted cooler. On the highway it doesn't do too bad, only about 11-15 degrees higher than ambient, but yes, on the beach they are hot

[@chasp_0784]

What did I learn from this video-intercooler belong on the front of the car 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@XploringOz]

Haha, yeah they are efficient there. But everything is a compromise

[@johnrose2270]

Another great vid mate, well done!!

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, hopefully it can help.

[@shaunwhite4338]

Do all the tests again with the fans mounted under the intercooler and sucking air

[@felixthecat1672]

If you were willing to try that you might as well go front mount

[@XploringOz]

I would.... if I could. No fans sold on the market can fit under the factory intercooler. The only option with this setup is to fit pusher styled fans on top. Obviously with modification and changes you could make something work, however this video is to compare results with simple and easy to fit fans without complicated or involved installation.

[@bigfishfishing-111]

Great video. People cant say your wrong m8

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, everyone will have their opinions. I'm trying to record the facts from my personal experience. Cheers, Nathan.

[@darwinsdrongodrivers]

Very thorough and interesting videos. One of my fans on my 2011 78 series has stopped working. The relay, fuse and wiring are all Kosher. My engine bay temp rarely gets above 85c (engine watchdog) and my air intake sits between 80c-90c (scan gauge). I recently drove from Alice to Darwin stopping once for fuel at TC and these were my temps with both fans working. I'm going to take my intercooler off to try and fix the fan, if I can't, I may just remove the busted fan. I will definitely do your tweezer trick. Cheers man. Oh, do you following Lock in your Hubs? He does scientific based reviews too.

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, I was certainly surprised from my results from this, I honestly thought it would work much better than it did (or didn't). Yes, I do follow him, he certainly takes testing to the next level 👍

[@gregtoth7534]

Well done mate. The evidence is overwhelming.

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate. I think so, I just can’t justify the higher speed efficiency loss for the very rare and I confirmed chance they provide a small benefit.

[@RobnKath]

Awesome vid man I was going to put a set on my 79 for towing my 3.5t caravan I won’t waiste my money now cheers P.S have you tried the OBD2 BlueDriver it’s awesome with what is does and doesn’t effect anything else on your iphone music and phone calls still work unaffected it gives all of your live read outs 10x better then that OBD2 scanner you reviewed cheers for the vid.

[@RobnKath]

I sent you a pm on your Facebook page I’ve got nothing to do with the BlueDriver besides owning one I just thought maybe you could reach out to them they might sponsor you one to review for the Australian market they are designed in Canada manufactured in China but you pay for what you get cost me $150

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate. Yeah, I wouldn't bother with investing in fans now after seeing the results from this test and the highway test. Would be better off saving a little more and upgrading the entire intercooler if you wanted lower CAI and more power. Cheers mate, I've seen them around, I'll have a bit of a closer look. Cheers, Nathan .

[@jerrymyahzcat]

No surprise really. You’d think Toyota with all their money and R&D would know what they are doing and if fans were needed - they’d be included from the factory. My intercooler is mounted in front of the radiator (where there are fans) so it is clearly designed to benefit from the mounting position from the factory. Well done mate.

[@XploringOz]

For sure, I agree completely. These fans are becoming quite popular for the 200 series, so hopefully this can provide some insight into potential results...

[@glenmccarthy7913]

@@XploringOz I have an after market higher efficiency intercooler , that was designed to work with fans and they do work , but only with intercoolers that are designed to , by manufacturer of intercooler as intercoolers are designed differently.

[@XploringOz]

Definitely, intercoolers are not designed the same and some greatly benefit from the higher airflow produced by fans.

[@larryklemm8745]

A real help to a lot of 4wd owners,would be snorkel rams vs cyclone type pre-cleaners vs reverse facing ends over 55km/h

[@XploringOz]

Cheers for the idea mate, maybe something I will have to look into for a future test. It's definitely a topic that has been brought up several times previously...

[@dustyfarmer]

Already been covered by another great Aussie KZbinr, lockyourhubs4wdriving .

[@chuckberry7692]

I'm a real fan of this video🤘🍻🇦🇺🔥

[@XploringOz]

Haha, best comment yet! Cheers mate.

[@rattler4102]

As always Nathan, very informative mate! I was also going to get some fans........not anymore! Cheers

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate, I would also save your money. I reckon it could be worth upgrading the whole unit, maybe something to try out in the future... Cheers.

[@barts1286]

You might have wasted $400 on fans but you probably saved me and many others from losing $1000 or more. Thanks.😄

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate, I hope so 🤞

[@rubiconned]

This really surprised me, but facts are facts. One thing I would like to see is a test with a single offset fan. Either left or right. Would be interesting to see if a balance between assistance and natural would work?

[@XploringOz]

Sure surprised me too. Hmm, maybe something I can look into in the future...

[@rubiconned]

@@XploringOz look forward to it! Was glad you did this one

[@mjhmech4903]

15:07 100% spot on! Thumbs up mate. Quite refreshing to see an intelligent and objective review on popular products available. BTW how are you finding the 8.5 STEDI's ?

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate. Yeah, some people will say the extra power is needed, but at what cost? I'll be keeping the standard setup for now. Yeah good mate. Personally I usually a fan of the spread type lights and these Type X's are very much a spot beam. Good for our long straight roads out here. I do find they hit those reflective signs hard though, a lot of light bouncing back at the vehicle. Overall great for the few times I'm out at night. The bracket and mounting setup has to be one of the best in the market though.

[@damobilemechanic5529]

HI Nathan this may sound a bit funny but try lifting the fans about 10mm off the intercooler and see if it runs cooler as this is what we did on rally cars to keep them cooler

[@XploringOz]

It sure does defy common knowledge regarding these type of fans and isn't something I had thought of. Interesting to hear that works on your vehicles. Unfortunately with this stock setup it just isn't possible. There isn't enough room between the factory cooler and the air ducts to lift it up, it already fowls about 1mm on the ducts as setup in this video...

[@Danysleo180]

air to water intercooler is the best mod

[@XploringOz]

For sure, but comes with extra complexity and costs to match as well...

[@darthvader8433]

I wonder if the results would have varied if (instead of plotting absolute temps) you had plotted the temperature delta across the intercooler. Perhaps the results would have been more definitive. This would have removed the variability of the work across the runs. But it depends on whether the 200 has a sensor before the intercooler too.. I imagine it does though. On another subject, can you recommend a good maintenance manual to carry for the 200?

[@XploringOz]

Potentially, good idea though. Maybe something I'll consider doing in future tests... The nearest sensor to the intercooler, prior to the cooling element is that intake temp (after the airbox). An aftermarket bung would have to be installed to see the temps immediately prior to the cooling element. So for manuals, I carry the hardcopy of the Hayne manual - haynes.com/en-au/toyota/land-cruiser/2007-2016?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnKeCBhDPARIsAFDTLTLi2khZDj3OKC0P-yx9fSj_eKnJYLIL4IKfunflGOiWknw1VFloIB8aAq99EALw_wcB Has most things you'll need in most circumstances to get you out of trouble if required. I'm yet to have to use my one out on the road, but I'm confident with it in the back of the cruiser.

[@darthvader8433]

@@XploringOz Thanks for that, I'll grab one.

[@Agent.K.]

I’ve been messing with my car for about 3 years, trying different hyped mods that are meant to increase power/cool etc. My conclusion is: leave it oem. Ecu tune if you need to override the nannies.

[@XploringOz]

For sure, these manufacturers have spent millions on R&D and generally know what they are doing, particularly reputable companies like Toyota.

[@holgermuller2987]

@@XploringOz ha, got you.... think about the damned oem Plastik air filter box !!! POS.... creating parts turnover design.... but good on them so easy to overcome.... just kiss 600.- AUD goodbye and get an aftermarket one which functions properly. Nop, can’t get the money back from Toyota for it.... cheers mate..

[@RAVI4002]

these vids are awesome

[@larryklemm8745]

This proves that fans on OEM intercooler just chokes up , so leave fans off. But aftermarket intercooler and fans is a step up.

[@XploringOz]

For sure, an aftermarket setup would likely provide a much bigger benefit to the charged air temps. Maybe a test to conduct in the future....

[@franklowe3798]

Yes I agree especially on the 79 series where low speed towing & heat soak reduces fuel and power due to limited bonnet scoop rammed air induction at low speed . Fans work well on 79’s oem intercoolers .

[@RobsDIY]

why would fans be worse off do you reckon?

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, I go over it all works and why I think it doesn't work well towards the end f this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHmtk4WLeauSp80

[@zoezoe610]

Well done, Toyota engineers have designed what works and probably considered fans like this. Thanks good unbiased info.

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate. For sure, they usually do get it right, hopefully this can provide some useful information to those thinking about installing these on their vehicles.

[@haitch1980]

Nice follow up Nathan. I guess, the prescribed ideal outcome is two fold. 1. Increased power derived through lower egt. And 2 arriving at 1 at a safe egt. Can your test result methodology identify exhaust egt changes, with and without fans, using the OBD 2 Code functionality.?? Perhaps a more real world understanding of load vs piston temp. Doesn't the lc200 have egt sensors/ thermocouples pre or post hi and low speed turbo? Been looking at these codes for my scan guage and they seem to exist. But, my 79 is too old. Probably to do with dpf temps in more recent vehicles. Would be good to see egt's as the reference though.

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate. So yes, those results would be ideal. With this model of cruiser, I haven't been able to successfully obtain EGT temperatures from on-board factory sensors. I know that with my new Manta exhaust, there are easy to access bungs on each dump pipe that are designed for aftermarket EGT gauges. The only reason I haven't fitted these yet, is that I haven't found a location to neatly displayed two more gauge inside the cruiser cab. I could maybe hook something up temporarily, but currently don't have that equipment on hand...

[@haitch1980]

@@XploringOz Thanks for the prompt reply.Personally, I believe lowering EGT's is the end game to all your very well regarded efforts. It is possible, through "scanguage" to get a list of obd2 codes by vehicle type. Perhaps, a phone call as I did, for a link from them might help.

[@anbu999]

Is it possible to mount the fan below the intercooler and and turn it into pull setup instead of push. I believe there isn't enough room within the intercooler shroud when the bonnet is closed hence the fan couldn't move enough air to give the extra cooling.

[@XploringOz]

Unfortunately there is not enough room to mount these fans underneath the intercooler. No doubt they would be much more effective in this setup, however just not possible with the stock cooler.

[@danieloneill4356]

It would be interesting to see if a single fan mounted directly to the IC (i.e. without a shroud) would achieve a balance between optimal low vehicle speed cooling and optimal higher vehicle speed cooling.

[@XploringOz]

Potentially. The reason I didn't mount directly to the intercooler was because of the terrain these vehicle encounter. The vibrations and movement from off-road use and corrugations could potentially create issues with the intercooler itself.

[@grahammillar8012]

Always been Curious if an aerodynamic bonnet scoop with flap that can be opened and closed when needed would yield a better airflow over the intercooler without fans. Also how the results would compare using fans on a scooped bonnet to a stock bonnet. Pro and cons . Nice video

[@XploringOz]

This would be interesting to test. I might do some more testing in the future in regards to the intercooler, so I’ll keep this in mind 👍

[@dustyfarmer]

Could you do a test to see if aftermarket Toyota Landcruiser intercooler fans when fitted to run when the engine is on actually make the engine slower to reach operating temperature thus increasing engine wear at the critical warm up period. You might struggle to get winter time temps over there in Kal but night-time temps may be more suitable & applicable for eastern state people. P.S Andrew from Berrima Diesel says you can now add TRAVEL WRITER to your C.V

[@XploringOz]

Something I might be able to test in the future. We do get a few cold, sub 0 mornings out here, but not that often. Haha, not everyone seems to agree with my results in this series...

[@dustyfarmer]

@@XploringOz You're my guide on the subject.

[@ausguy4385]

Was any of the air ducts still in place? Eg directing cool air in still? And so the fan is sucking cool air from duct work and not hot engine bay air?

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, yes all factory plastic ducting was still in place. This way the fans are attempting to source cooler air from the front grill rather than from the engine bay.

[@danielsykes2847]

The term for difficulty for tyres to roll is rolling resistance 👍

[@vincentpoole7588]

Nath. Has one looked into a water spray system to cool your intercooler charge ? This would hopefully help to reduce the intake temperatures via a switch, that can spray water over the top of an LC200 intercooler thermal/manually switch ! V.

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, I definitely agree that a water sprayer would assist (I've tested in my previous 4WD) however 2 things are putting me off this method in this vehicle. Firstly water is finite in overlanding situations and using it to cool the intercooler wouldn't be high up on the list when traversing the desert. Secondly, the 'V' shape of this V8 engine has a tendency to 'catch' water in the centre (under the cooler) and potentially increase or speed up the rusting process.

[@vincentpoole7588]

@@XploringOz Nath. Yeah unless one goes for an aftermarket front mount ? The last thing any LC200 owner needs is the starter motor failing in the middle of a 'Vee', as have heard it's 17 hours book time from Toyota to swap out - yikes ! V.

[@XploringOz]

@@vincentpoole7588 For sure, front mount is an option. Just not something that I think I would get the value from at this stage of the build. I'm happy with the power and temp's I'm achieving with my current setup and I'll probably just leave it as such.

[@johnh2309]

Great video Nathan thanks. Interesting results. I really would have thought the low speed high load with fans attached would have yielded lower temperatures. I'm wondering if the fan shrouds are blocking some of the airflow from the ducts from the front of the vehicle??? I'm sure that the Toyota Engineers have considered fans and may well have come up with the same conclusion as you. Doesn't make a difference and your data seems to support that.

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. I don't believe that the shroud is blocking airflow, I believe that the fans are producing to much CFM (flow rate) which the intercooler isn't designed for. This intercooler appears to be designed for high heat dispersion with minimal air flow. I contacted Toyota regarding their optimal air flow rates, however they were not willing to share that data due to intellectual property rights... I'm happy with the way my vehicle performs and I hope others can make an informed decision based on all evidence out there in regards to whether these fans will suit their vehicle.

[@Al_Pollock]

Could it be worth trying the fans in reverse, pulling air through the intercooler instead of trying to push it through?

[@XploringOz]

Potentially this may provide some benefit at very low speeds as pulling air through a cooler is definitely better than pushing however, pulling through the intercooler upwards would significantly effect the characteristics at medium to high speeds. The air flow coming through the front grill and into the intercooler would be fighting against that of the fan airflow. Ideally, you would have puller fans underneath the cooler

[@dant2415]

Definitely worth a try, nothing to loose?

[@jasgap]

Video on an air to water intercooler

[@XploringOz]

Maybe one day, unfortunately funds don't allow for something like this at the moment...

[@jasgap]

@@XploringOz with your content is a matter of time, great job 👏

[@lewisnethercott1183]

Great work mate👍

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate.

[@jellybaby9630]

Cool Vid I'm Your Fan

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate!

[@jellybaby9630]

Bonnet Scoop?

[@XploringOz]

Maybe something I'll look at in the future. Lots of $$$ involved in these never ending modifications.

[@boxheadmr]

Have you got the new van yet?

[@XploringOz]

Negative mate, it's order, signed and confirmed, but just as we got a good deal on selling the Jayco, given the market conditions, we've been significantly delayed with the high increase in the demand for local travel and subsequently vans.... We are looking towards to end of the year at this stage. As hard as it is to accept, we know that we have chosen the right van for us and it's worth the wait

[@lukedrakogiannskis8386]

I’m not sure your test is right mate I have tested fans and they work mate just my 2 cents I think your fans are not moving enough air mate

[@XploringOz]

Maybe, would be interested in knowing what fans you are using? Not sure how big/powerful the fans can be to fit in this space? Either way, with the 3 tests I conducted I found them to be more of a hinderance and something I personally won't be fitting. This being said, if they are working for you, that is good news 👍

[@lukedrakogiannskis8386]

The GSL spal fans and the Davis Craig controller it work very well

[@aaronhall1114]

Another great video mate. Well balanced and methodical. Thanks again Nathan. Aaron @200serieslc Instagram

[@shauik]

😍

[@mikebarford5797]

I appreciate all your time and effort, maybe you are right with your car. However there are several companies who have spent large amounts of money and time to prove Aftermarket intercoolers and fans help the majority of diesels with top mounts in most situations.And you have one of Australia's most experienced diesel companies totally disagreeing with your conclusions.(kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3S0hKaGobZ_d6c). A 10% increase in power IS noticeable in a car with only 140KW , Not to mention the effect on EGT's. Low range and rock crawling DO require MAX horsepower intermittently to overcome obstacles. Try driving Ngkala rocks on Fraser island and not using ALL you have under the bonnet? Or climbing little red in the glasshouse mountains, you need every KW you can get your hands on to climb that bit of dirt. A TD42 patrol for example will see good gains with a good ic and fan, so will a 1HZ yota, and a Zd30, the list goes on.

[@krump743]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 your using berrima diesel to bolster your argument. 😂

[@XploringOz]

There are plenty of companies that do claim to have had positive results with intercooler fans. As you could probably verify, most of these companies are showing results on a dyno, acceleration test one after another. As per my highway video, I showed that these fan can provide slightly lower temps in those type situations. I'm yet to find a company that can show data over longer periods of driving time like I've attempted to demonstrate here. For sure, I agree 10% is noticeable, however I'm saying that it's rare that it will make the difference between conquering an obstacle and getting stuck. If pretty much any other vehicle car get past obstacles, like Ngkala rocks, then a twin turbo V8 diesel should definitely pass ok, with or without fans fitted. I can't comment on the efficiency of other vehicles as they would react significantly differently to the 200 series, but it's possible other vehicles could benefit. Appreciate the comments.

[@mikebarford5797]

@@krump743 Umm i think a company who has been trained by Bosch for the last 30 odd years(the people who make injector pumps) knows more than some guy with a laptop and heaps of time on his hands, does he have any training? I can tell by some of his comments he has very little experience, he is just playing to an audience. I suggest you research berrima diesel? But we know you wont, youtube knows more than any expert😒

[@krump743]

@@mikebarford5797 He blabbed on a bit about 'cowboy' tuners whilst blowing his own trumpet. His vids showed lots of soot being blown He mentioned on FB other 'cowboy tuners' use compound supercharged turbo set ups or some crap On a vid (now removed) hes talking about tuning, in the background his apprentice is supposedly undoing a manifold stud, but appears to be levering it with force the wrong way and it snaps. He later laughed it off. Lots of people got on his FB page bagging him. Hes found where they work, then compiled a list of dodgy businesses (as per the post above) Hes apparently set up false FB accounts, 'borrowing' peoples pics of their cars etc to use on his own page (one guy with a GU ute in WA has never dealt with him). Just being generally dodgy. Hes now (via his fake accounts) supposedly posting negative reviews on the businesses listed above🤣🤣🤣 #burymydiesel You talk about youtube experts, but yet here you are being an "expert" in the comments on KZbin lmfao flop.

[@mjhmech4903]

@@krump743 he not a fanboi much LMAO

[@franklowe3798]

Oh ,Nathan just a thought you’re gonna have to buy your new 2021 Toyota 79 series and do the same testing 😆 ha ha ha ,so totally cannot wait for those results , I’m already frothing in objective anticipation . Good job again ,take care ,from the Adelaide crew yeeeeeehaarrr

[@XploringOz]

Haha, I wish mate. Already got too many toys as it is... Cheers mate.

[@holgermuller2987]

@@XploringOz Nathan Never enough men toys..get a bigger garage... haha..

[@XploringOz]

@@holgermuller2987 Haha, if only the Mrs would agree...

[@hoctan8086]

I have a 2017 lc200 with Diesel engine , theses lc200s , found out with wrong gear oil in sand , will cause temp rise . I tried my lc200 with amsoil 75w90 rather then Toyota 75w85 , both temperature went up . Going back to Toyota 75w85 it ran better . The fans work on towing . But the alternator was working harder , up to 37.8 amps more load . So temp will go up for the loan reasons . Fans do work . Thanks

[@Mouldyturnip75]

You've concluded that a gear oil with very similar specs caused temps to rise in sand.......WTF? umm....nothing to do with driving in sand......? Both oils you mention have data that puts them within a poof-tenth of each other for viscosity @ 40 and 100C.

[@thebob3712]

Blowing hot air from inside a hot engine bay isn't going to cool down anything, what were you expecting?

[@shanenorwell8580]

How is it blowing hot air from the engine bay? It should essentially be drawing air through the ducting from behind the grill.

[@thebob3712]

@@shanenorwell8580 do you think the air drawn through the radiator will be cool? Do you think the air around your exhaust is cool? When you pop the bonnet after travelling for a few hours are you hit with cool air or hot air, only way to get cool air is to have a bonnet scoop drawing in air from outside the engine bay. Please tell me where the air going through the intercooler is coming from?, i may be stupid but Im not as stupid as you. Why do guys change to a front mount intercooler from a top mount

[@shanenorwell8580]

@@thebob3712 the 200 series has ducting that bring the air from just behind the grill. There’s rubber seals between this ducting and the cooler. The fans are on the duct side of the intercooler so the only air they have access to is from the duct hence the grill not from the engine bay. There’s no need to be an asshole by the way.

[@thebob3712]

@@shanenorwell8580 not my fault if you are sensitive. Where is the air being drawn from for the fans, is it connected to the ducting, looks like they were just sitting on top of the intercooler, blowing air from inside the engine bay, I may be wrong, please inform me if I am wrong and haven't noticed the ducting connecting them to cold air induction you think there is

[@shanenorwell8580]

@@thebob3712 there’s ducting on every single diesel 200 series that’s part of the bonnet and front grill. It’s not about being sensitive. You told me I was too stupid to work it out when it’s in fact you that doesn’t know how the setup works.