Updated Legendary Hero Tier List video | Doomsday Last Survivors

[@ThatPandeGuy]

By the way would you guys be interested in a tier list for best field hero's?

[@Claudia-mm3jl]

Yes ❤❤q

[@Zer-us4wq]

I need a tier for farmer heros

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@Zer-us4wq 🤣🤣🤣🤣 well that sounds a little overpowered to let the world see don't you think?

[@chukspeter4044]

I wish they don't nerf or fix Sarah because it was putting an end to tier 6 farming dominance over lower players. That was our only hope. Please don't nerf. Tell the developers. We don't need another maxine

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@chukspeter4044 she's still gona be fast it's just because her 3rd skill stacks

[@dgarcia0426]

We need a video with best pairs in the different aspects of the game, again Great work Panda 💪

[@ThatPandeGuy]

By different aspects you refer to siege-field-swarming etc?

[@MrAmal88]

Yes

[@tl2554]

@@ThatPandeGuy dont forget bounty

[@chukspeter4044]

Z virus and arena of doom

[@QueenSlayer9664]

​@@ThatPandeGuyz virus 8-9 and just best heros for fighting other players in events like ar

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Sorry about the occasional baby crying guys, my sister had come for a visit :3

[@ilijamarnic6579]

Cmon man ,thats awesome and more important than this game. Thanks for your time

[@SMS-p7q]

There’s nothing better than a baby in da house!

[@paperman3480]

Thanks for these periodic updates! Your insight is helpful to see how the meta is developing across the game and may trickle down to higher G regions. 😊

[@chukspeter4044]

Martin and Russell are good for non whales when killing zombies. Getting xp is not easy for non heavy spenders or free players

[@Mystic_798]

Thanks for the information, make videos on useful combos for players, which is useful is different aspects like Louis, best infantry combo for field and stuff❤

[@Killermanjerr]

Amazing video ❤

[@acreARES]

Thank you for making another one!!!

[@paulboyes4344]

Looks like im going to focus on Julia as she is by far the highest rated hero i have in your ranked list(tho currently i have her rated at level 20) but at least thanks to your video/advice i can now crack on with her and rank her up,cheers TPG.

[@SoteroElDelRincon]

I wish we can have your opinion as a tierlist for garrison, field and rally... i think it will be helpful for new and not so new players.

[@shannonvandyke8996]

This helps me a whole lot you don't even know. Lol. Wish I could rank down Jaden now and get my stars back:(

[@chukspeter4044]

I love riven with Victor and thunder. I'm happy you noticed. I am 8 million in arena of doom and I'm beating 9.8million because of riven. In pompei garrison, she is a beast. So much use. I usually need to win rewards at my level because I lack a lot..because of her I can. I played z virus with riven to 8.8 with level 51 riven and level 44 Catherine and louis

[@patientlywatching7775]

Wow.... I'm not even at 2 million in AoD yet (hovering at around 1.7mil). BUT......I am beating opponents that are at 2mil, occasionally. How long did it take you to get as far as you have? I've only been playing for 2 months and am at Shelter Level 17. And I have spent less than $100 so far.

[@chukspeter4044]

@@patientlywatching7775 I started in April. I am at 9.5 now

[@memes4life26]

Do the bottom tiers become good in campain/ vs zombie mode at least?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

depends, some heros are frankly S tier and S tier in zombie gamemodes, if you're F tier in GENERAL you might be more likely to be a hero against zombies in general though gamemodes is a diff story

[@Ghost.46]

Pande is there video on the heroes' talents tree?

[@Shelby29202]

At 0:00 the video was already awesome 😁

[@ThatPandeGuy]

🤣

[@xalampas2627]

Men today i was playing in the lucky roulette wanting the hero and i was thinking choosing bella instead of Felix but i didn't do it in the end is Felix worth at least?

[@CalvinNkosi-op3hw]

Sarah was a night on Archipelago raid. She made every squad seam slow.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Sara a speed demon 🤣

[@djomla3165]

No offense, but I think these tier lists can cause prejudice to low spenders or average players You rank some rally and garrison heros very high but their usefulness as low spender or average players is non existent.. They will see this tier list and see something like Bard or Viktor in SSS tier and will think its good for them I think it would be good if you rank those ones tier or two bellow than they should be

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Eh that's a hard one I mean I did say as I ranked them not to invest in every hero that you see S etc, it's why I explain why I rank heros why I rank them if I say a heros a good rally hero that generally indicates oh maybe I shouldn't ingest in that especially when I implicitly say hey make sure you note this and understand this isn't a hero you should invest in as an average player

[@ThatPandeGuy]

But you are right about one thing I should probably make sure to mention that when dropping heros in certain ranks to make sure players know 100% if the heros a good investment for them personally

[@CalvinNkosi-op3hw]

I am not a spender and new to the game on top commander. I am currently ranked 7th. The hero choices are Bard, Jacob and Johnny Kerry. Which hero should I choose?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@CalvinNkosi-op3hw between these three Jacob's better for you

[@Dy5n0m1a]

I'm fully with you on that one. Just watching a panda-guy video the other day saying that chainsaw girl was about $500 to level propperly, you know, with all her fragments coming from pay-for-packs. With the odd one or two cropping up in the memory store you still dont stand a chance of 'skilling' her to full potential!

[@Vagabond494]

I'm just telling the truth, the most important hero in AR is Sara😆

[@kikisun9698]

thanks for the great vedio it helps quite much for newbies. Do you still remember how much does it cost to max out a strongest S-rank hero in this game? Is there a way to max it out with less spending rather than rushing it, for example in some events? Thank you!

[@angelokerasidis9893]

I’ve been working on Victor on the side slowly. If used in garrison with thunder or let’s say the new rider hero, would you pair him as a lead or support?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Make victor lead? I actually would like to lead with Victor but it's more convinent for me to work on a infantry set contrary to a leader set and max it at 5 stars, harder without being a whale

[@Zzz_momo]

you deserve subscription ,from friend of Fartsalot 😊😅

[@Insight-Corrupted]

good stuff, I only have Bella and Calamity, so should I not upgrade what I have and wait for better heroes?

[@juusugoi]

should i spend 40k diamond to unlock vip 9 straight away or spend it on lucky roulette for tc

[@멋진민이-p1d]

Hi. Members I just have a different opinion while watching this content, and I have no intention of sniping at the Panda guy who created this content. If you feel anything like that from what I've said, please understand that it's just one person's opinion. I don't think it makes sense to grade characters from S to F. The thoughts I have about a character are important in what situation, for what purpose, why I use that character, and with whom I couple it with. It is completely meaningless to simply classify some characters as C-grade and others as A-grade simply by their attack, defense, skill damage, etc.

[@멋진민이-p1d]

Panda guy recognized Riven as S-rank, but does she really deserve S-rank? In the document I compiled, Riven is the fourth character in the infantry class. She has decent skill damage and attack defense shield skills. These are her strengths. However, she has two fatal weaknesses. 1. Movement speed is slow. She has a movement speed of 33%, which is not good for field battles. When her unit's HP reaches yellow, she must go back, but there is a high possibility that she will be wiped out while withdrawing. 2. She has a low anger gauge. Her anger is very low at 16. What this means is that it takes a long time for her to use skill damage. You can think of it as meaning that while other characters use skill damage 2-3 times, Riven only uses it once.

[@멋진민이-p1d]

panda guy introduces Peterson as an AA-rated character and a good character in the military, but it depends on your perspective. If I'm stationed, I don't use Peterson, I use Raigoro-Riven. The reason is simple. I admit that Peterson is better than any other character currently available in the game when it comes to HP and troop healing skills. But is that necessarily a good thing? Of course, panda guy mentions that Peterson has no utility value for those who play on G1 and G2 maps. Of course, panda guy mentions that Peterson has no utility value for those who play on G1 and G2 maps. I will make two assumptions. Assumption 1: Assume Peterson is stationed and attacked by Julia-Bard's rally. Assumption 2: Let's also assume that the stationed player and the rallying player both have similar combat power. The outcome of this battle is likely to be a rally victory. From my experience in many rallies, stationed Peterson will have 3 times more deaths. Of course, it would not be a bad idea to continue to add additional troops to the stationed Peterson unit. You should know the difference between Peterson-Tom-Raigoro, the representative characters of the infantry garrison here. Here, Peterson and Tom are characters that heal troops, and Raigoro is a garrison defense character with a shield. To understand this correctly, you must know the difference between healing and shielding. Do you know the difference between these two?

[@멋진민이-p1d]

Putting Master Jin in A is also problematic. Leader characters are characters that provide attack and defense buffs to the main characters except Victor. In other words, most of them have 0 skill damage, and except for Victor, their skill damage is very low.

[@멋진민이-p1d]

They also say about Chun that she cannot rally and is not worth investing in, but this is also an explanation that lacks evidence. Julia and Chun must be used clearly separately. Julia is used for rally attacks, and Chun is used for field battles. What is the reason? That's because of this female character's movement speed. Julia is 24% and Chun is 54%, which is more than twice as fast as Chun. The meaning of this is the same as Riven I mentioned earlier.

[@멋진민이-p1d]

I also have a different opinion with panda guy about the cavalry character Mai. There is no reason to raise this female character. Even though she is the fastest cavalry character, there is no need for her. Here are my reasons: To gain points in an event, you cannot gain points by only attacking the enemy's gathering troops. Of course, it may be possible if you travel around other alliances and hunt a lot of gathering troops. But to increase your points this way, you need to play the game for more than 10 hours, keep controlling my troops, and when her troops' strength decreases, you have to withdraw them and send them back into battle. Do you want to do this? But is it possible to engage in a full-scale battle with my unit? This is not it. Looking at Mai's skills, if she is attacked by an infantry character, her troops will inevitably decrease drastically. There is no need for a character like this.

[@babalus101]

I'd put Bard in A, as he's really only useful for rallies, not field or garrison. Maaybe AA+ because of HOW good he is in rallies, but overall not. Louis should probably still be S tier. He's useful everywhere, all of his skills are top notch, and the rage boost for heavy hitting ranged is deadly. Eddie should be AA+, he's solid everywhere including field battles. Can easily say he's better than thunder the hospital filler... Overall, agree with your choices mate!

[@1isaacgardner]

I concur. 👍

[@badmedicine636]

Very interesting video, thank you. I'm working on Julia right now and I'm wondering who would be the best pair for her for field fighting, excluding Louis?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Probably Lynn right now

[@-o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o-]

Is a 5521 Louis a better assistant for Thunder in garrison than a 5355 Tom?

[@animemugenbox]

How can i get Mai Shiranui?

[@jinxxiapostol2461]

New Subscriber here ^_^

[@yototototototktksjbzudjbebwjje]

hello sir i have one question..in last thunder tc i got 200 fragments of thunder...in upcoming thunder tc i can again get 200 fragment of him....but someone told me that thunder is outdated...you should try eddie or riven....actually im finding a pair of adut..so suggest me what to do

[@justoneounce]

Miyamoto + adut or miyamoto + thunder is great on the field. Riven goes well with either thunder or Victor or Raigoro Eddie...mehhhh

[@ВиталийСергеевич-ы5ш]

Привет панда ждал давно от тебя этого обзора .Мне кажеться Линн тоже хорошая пара Джулии в поле😊

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

Plz tell me the talent tree for louis , i am full of t4 ranged with 12/15 each and 3 start purple armaments for ranged research , and who to pair with , field or garrison

[@ThatPandeGuy]

You have discord?

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

@@ThatPandeGuy yes I do, I sent hi

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@user-wr6yi2nh5c alright I'm at a graduation right now, can send it later just remind me ..

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

@@ThatPandeGuy ohh , ok enjoy 🫶🏻

[@thelastspartan5377]

Hey panda. Much respect and appreciation for these videos they're extremely helpful and I actually enjoy these vids as well. BTW, I found out through your newer videos you're a president of an alliance, which one? I've seen you have T6 troops so I can only assume it's a powerful one, I'd be very interested to know which alliance you're running. Either way, thanks again, keep pumping out your great vids, and I'd love if you made a tier list of field hero's. 👍👊

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@thelastspartan5377 region one alliance PRIM

[@thelastspartan5377]

@@ThatPandeGuy thanks brother I'll check it out. I bet it's some whale alliance but good on you bro, thanks for replying.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@thelastspartan5377 haha no not at all it's just a smaller group around 5-6b generally

[@ธนัชวงศ์เมือง-ฅ9ต]

Recommend pairing each line

[@funkyjunky6574]

Hiw do you progress through the game ignoring the heros in E and F

[@ThatPandeGuy]

you dont have to ignore them just dont waste your stuff investing heavy into them

[@business-hy3lb]

what about the rest of the heroes at the bottom?

[@CalvinNkosi-op3hw]

I am new to yhe gamng world. Your are really helpful. What does PDP mean?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Did I say PDP ? Or maybe you misheard me you have a time stamp?

[@CalvinNkosi-op3hw]

PVP

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@CalvinNkosi-op3hw ohhh that means player vs player basically heros that are for fighting

[@CalvinNkosi-op3hw]

@ThatPandeGuy thanks, man

[@kskid99]

Dang it. I invested in Hank and Jaden cause I got them early. Well.... I thought they would be good. I just started the game 2 weeks ago.

[@musiklemontv]

In light of your changed opinion on Miyamoto, would you consider redoing your video on this hero as the video created doesn’t reflect the hero now after being placed in S class.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Yeah, I might want to redo some videos I did first looks at it kind've can be hard to review heros without seeing their results yet completely

[@plutoniumnitrate1201]

family is family brother..........is there an armament that increases squad load for bounty grounds or must it be by using an attribute......lately.....I have been using Riven more than Thunder

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Theres one that increases squad load but what do you mean for BG

[@plutoniumnitrate1201]

@@ThatPandeGuy I changed from cynthia to Freya for her additional squad load so I now have 569 instead of 527

[@Jackthecandlestick]

where would you rate Felix?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

I'd probably throw him S, hes a killer rider hero

[@rajawijerathne435]

Don't underestimate tom and thunder both of them should be in the ss rank

[@ThatPandeGuy]

NO 🤣

[@anskieorganics]

I mean at the end of the day you only use heroes which are awakened on field

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Not exactly true, there's some cases I rather a 3 skill hero over an awakened just depends on the skill set really

[@rajneeshranjan3129]

Amezing 🎉

[@ihsandfkrurrozi]

but are maxine and martin good to use for beginners and f2p?

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Martin maybe maxine isn't any good pvp wise just farming

[@power4134]

i player this game am level 20 whois best heroe for z - virus ,memory trip,arena doom,zombie???????

[@omarmead2779]

Z-virus i would play charlie/liam/jaden as early game player. If you have better heroes then experiment with them. Memory trip and arena of doom you would play pretty much your full strength squad and heroes so its kinda the same.

[@cabdiraxmaan4779]

Z virus heroes are miyamoto and adut and Cynthia

[@omarmead2779]

@@cabdiraxmaan4779 your name sounds like somali name, are you somali ?

[@5thgearratchet]

When you say trades, what do you mean by that? I'm still new to the game

[@ThatPandeGuy]

That's to say like if you lose one troop your enemy loses one troop it's kinda like oh I want positive trades aka 2:1 for example so for every troop I lose I'd kill two or something

[@5thgearratchet]

@ThatPandeGuy ahh, I get it. Smart, and thank you. And thank you for the swift reply.

[@plutoniumnitrate1201]

What is your go to for garrison combo

[@ThatPandeGuy]

right now im running peterson + victor

[@plutoniumnitrate1201]

@@ThatPandeGuy I think you used Loius at one stage with thunder.....what other options arethere if you do not have victor......I do have jacob though

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@plutoniumnitrate1201 louis works too, Jacob also works it depends on preference Jacob's a nice garrison just because he's overall strong but his aoe is a bit different and less abused to lower his skill damage dealt to the rally

[@KK_vizuals]

Any hack version is there

[@sttony7647]

When I view these videos…. I just look at the bottom few tiers which is where all my heroes are at!! 😂 I only have Audet and Louis as decent heroes and VIP 11…. Long grind. About 700k VIP points meaning 3 months should do it for VIP 3. Hopefully awaken those heroes and then get better heroes… Well …. That’s the plan 😂

[@Daniel-zh9pp]

Catherine in Tier A? Everyone tells me she is useless. Is she worth going for if i already have Bella. Bella and Catherine being my only Rider heroes out of the top 3 tiers.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@Daniel-zh9pp thing is, she's not AS useful as the other heros... but I don't find her useless if you've already invested in her you wouldn't feel INCLINED to invest in another hero, that said there are other options but given alot of the heros you got to grind to awaken etc, to get a hero awakened by just spending money is pretty simple in principal and she's still useful in any case

[@Daniel-zh9pp]

@@ThatPandeGuy Ok thank you. I guess I'll go for her. With gold store discounts she'll be cheapish and god knows where this game will be in a year's time. I want to enjoy it now.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@Daniel-zh9pp that's the spirit, enjoy it now games tend to derail after a few years and lose the balance they started with

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

Raigoro C seriously, well i guess he is god for small ftp player only 😂😂

[@ThatPandeGuy]

hes not terrible but hes not amazing either I wouldnt mind running him if I had to but hes not really a necessity to throw in a field lineup hes a good garrison now that rivens out but hes not even necessary for that if you have victor or something

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

@@ThatPandeGuy oohh ok , I see

[@gablumantas]

ffs all my heroes are in C to F tier!

[@FghhDgbh]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kunalsinghbisht7796]

What abt bianca??

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@kunalsinghbisht7796 she's up there ?

[@kunalsinghbisht7796]

@@ThatPandeGuy sorry lol 🤪

[@pitchn7208]

Inice thumbnail

[@ThatPandeGuy]

🤣

[@dereklee2956]

Bella is a terrible hero, I regret putting a lot resource on her, upgrading her second skill is suicidal

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@dereklee2956 eh hard disagree she's pretty solid only downside to that skill would be the speed she has in battle which is pretty minor comparable to damage

[@Ankit_patel604]

unfortunately I don't have good heros 😂😢

[@Pyro_PirateKing]

I'll judge how ruthless you are ...

[@ThatPandeGuy]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Pyro_PirateKing]

Half way through and so f😮ar I only disagree with Mai. Only due to Mai having amazing speed at rank 6 due to feild talent tree (without much investment). Nice little farm hitter! one more comment to go when i get to the end.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@@Pyro_PirateKing Mai I'm just meh on she's a turnoff given the fact she's double the relics to awaken given she's not soloing two of my rider heros alone

[@Pyro_PirateKing]

Tell me you're broke without telling me you're broke 😎​@@ThatPandeGuy

[@Pyro_PirateKing]

Very good review, your best tier list yet :)

[@fazleyrabbyfahad3032]

i will never agree on the fact that jin is higher than raigoro😅

[@ThatPandeGuy]

🤣🤣🤣 to each their own, im not a fan of jin but I can see why he'd be more useful as a rally for whales more so

[@fazleyrabbyfahad3032]

@@ThatPandeGuy true. but if i wanted an infantry rally i would run as you said adut eddie. for range now it has to be bard and julia and for rider i would rather choose bella sven. but for me raigoro is still more useful than jin😆

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@fazleyrabbyfahad3032 same for me but I know it's not the same for everyone aswell

[@chukspeter4044]

Same for me. Sokolov would make the bench ahead of jin for me . I'm not a whale so no wonder and alsoo I prefer skil damage to attack skills with tanks for now

[@fazleyrabbyfahad3032]

@@chukspeter4044 you can replace alex with bianca. Don't use your general frags on police station heroes since you can get their frags for free

[@9725913in1]

I disagree with you so much. I wouldn't advise anyone to follow your advice or your channel.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

🤷‍♂️

[@KillMs-rt8nd]

Opinion irrelevant 💯

[@titserlei2307]

no

[@pukkadwam3791]

I suggest you put your current account on pause, start a new account and play the game without spending money for as long as you can endure! Because this is how most people are playing this game; like a job! Play the game for real, without the premium privilege, then you may be able to make a real tier list. I can 100% assure you it won't have Maxine placed as an F...! I have nothing against money spending in games like these, but you should cater to those who spend their time getting crushed on the battlefield by those "S" tier heroes. Those make most of the player-base, you know?!

[@ThatPandeGuy]

Dude... what're you talking about? Without spending money ? You make it sound like I spend alot of money I've grinded this game for 3 years from nothing my tier list isn't for farmers... it's for PvP this comment just had me so confused 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I get sht on constantly by big spenders why are you complaining maxines an F hero ... she's not gona break no towers

[@ThatPandeGuy]

This tier list is so people don't fk up their hero investments 🤣 you're basically telling me to screw people over by telling them to invest in maxine, not everyone plays the game simply to farm majority play to fight and maximize their value

[@EagleEye239]

You are out of your mind 🤣

[@pukkadwam3791]

@@ThatPandeGuy What I'm saying is that there so many players who are unable or unwilling to invest money in the game. Those are starting with heroes like Maxine, Lee, Martin and Jaden. And then can get heroes like Peter, Cynthia, Hank among others. But they will never get heroes like Riven or Victor. This is a free-to-play mobile game and that should be the baseline for judging its merit, no one is supposed to "grind" in a mobile game. So I'm asking you to make a tier list within those constraints. Your tier list basically says that all the obtainable heroes for free (but still for time and grind) are F, D and maybe C. That is not your fault. Yes this game costs money to maintain but what is the threshold?! Where do you draw the line?! Can a free player have a chance or the numbers are just too crushing?! And what would that make the game?! I'm not trying to be negative. I adore your videos. You're basically the only one who talks about this game. I'm only asking you to talk to more people about it, to the most people.

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@pukkadwam3791 victor was a roulette hero why wouldn't the average player be able to obtain him? Or other roulette heros? Why would I tell people to invest in lee martin etc when if they use relics on them and whatnot they'd screw themselves late game that advice would only hurt their account for late game development maybe have good fights for the first month regret it a year later- most heros I ranked high aren't some p2w heros... and from how you came in with your comment it's very insulting you make it sound like I'm coming from a place of some big whale who dosnt understand ftp players or low spenders

[@bryandev7653]

Pay to play

[@bobbyduke777]

I been grinding hard at this game for the past few months, I don't have onje of the good hero's, just the garbage. Today i dumped 150 dollars into the game elevated my vip and bought Jin only to find out he is useless against the new powerful hero's so I have also decided today, to throw this game away. I ti is s a money sucking, waste of time, that requires luck or massive amounts of money to even start working on competing. What a shit show

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

7 million might julia wtf , my squad might is 5 mil

[@ThatPandeGuy]

7m is an estimation, I think hansz has julia like 6.8/6.9m full red attributes

[@ThatPandeGuy]

5m is still really good

[@RAJURAJ-r5v]

@@ThatPandeGuy 💀😱

[@Anubhav-e9g]

I don't agree with this update.... wrong update don't follow this tier guys

[@myktrixxx49]

what? maxine gets a F because your criteria is she is not PvP then straight the other miner chick you put in B because of speed and transporting sh it? what has that to do with PvP be3sides some PvP event??? Ah i think i have to unfollow and dislike from here on...bye bye good luck

[@ThatPandeGuy]

@myktrixxx49 she's a useless fighter hero my tier lists aren't based around farming 🤣

[@ellea3344]

Of all the reasons to rank ranged heroes lower than I have than ranked, is because they are not YOUR focus. "At the end of the day, ranged is ranged." So profoundly amorphous. smh