Puma Velocity Nitro 3 | First Thoughts

[@jimoconnor8597]

Guys, this is why you try the shoes YOURSELF! Some will love, some will be like MEH, some will hate. This is the case with EVERY shoe I hate to tell you. I have 40+ pairs of shoes and disagree with plenty of pairs that Thomas and Megan love. Doesn't make them or me right or wrong. The women's Olympic marathoners from Puma LOVE these shoes. Try shoes out, you may find something you really love, I have.

[@CannabisTechLife]

exactly. One should make their purchase decision off of their own running type as well as an aggregate of reviews to get an idea of the opinion variety.

[@Ginguredrunner]

Hmmmmm...everyone else is really liking it...very similar to the v2 which is hugely popular. To each their own!!!

[@davidrosenthal5795]

Mine are ok I am struggling with them a bit.

[@MedicineRunner]

I’m loving it

[@svenja5596]

Hated the v2, hate the v3. Very meh shoe. But yeah..might work for some and not for others just like every other shoe.

[@MedicineRunner]

Hmm. I personally love this shoe after 30 miles. This is my first “basic daily trainer” in years and it’s a welcome refreshment to my rotation. Not to mention it’s so damn dependable in winter and rainy conditions. No need to buy trail shoes for snow anymore for me 🤙🏼

[@guiibogar]

Apparently Nitro Foam is a TPEE with Nitrogen infused foam. It's that's true, that material definitely need a solid break in time, the same as with Lightstrike Pro (also TPEE with totally different properties and feel though).

[@MedicineRunner]

Correct. I got 2 pairs of velocity nitro 3. Both of them needed break in at 30 ish miles. Completely different ride after that.

[@timothyworner6696]

I had men size 9.5 in velocity nitro 2, decided to buy size 9 in nitro 3. It’s snug, but no blisters or toe nail issue, mesh stretches nice. But it’s a basic daily trainer, very similar to nike peg

[@runfrankfurt]

The Velocity Nitro 2 was somewhat of a dull ride already. I decided to get the Deviate Nitro 2 after that and man, I love that shoe as a allround daily trainer. I will skip the Velocity Nitro 3 and get the Deviate Nitro 3 instead or stick to the Deviate Nitro 2.

[@Nickswolves]

Have to try it for yourself. I tried VN3 alongside a few of those mentioned above and I love it. Got it for less than £100 too.

[@karls8989]

i have 20 miles in mine and they do feel snappy and i appreciated them on a snow run but yea not as fun as V2

[@mateuszmrowiec4265]

I love mine, and to be frank, they will not break my wallet😊

[@onetruthoneway7369]

I feel the same way about the velocity nitro 2. If I want a challenging run( because there is no energy return) that I know my feet will hurt in mid way through the run I choose the velocity nitro 2.

[@tkwasik]

If you have all the running shoes that is on the market, for free, at some point you dont want to run in "boring" daily trainer and forgetting that those boring dailies have most usage for us common folks... 😂😂

[@ucatani]

Nailed it! I love boring shoes. As a matter of fact, and I'm lacing up my Peg 37s and going for a run right now. Happy runs, both the boring and the fun!

[@scotthilton5406]

I went to a demo the other night where they had the Magnify 2 and Velocity 3. Ran in both (Loved the Magnify 2) and feel like the velocity 3 could benefit from a lower drop that increases the nitro foam under the forefoot. The Magnify 2 has such good feedback as the high stack shoe. If they made the velocity 3 a 6-8 mm drop it might increase some of that feedback.

[@keefw361]

Were the magnifys heavy? Looking at getting these or the velocity

[@quickfoxreview874]

A bit on the heavy side for cushioned shoes, but it's way softer than v3. ​Magnify 2 compared to other max shoes is on the firmer side, soft and responsive @keefw361

[@toni194]

Judging the comments, Puma is the new Altra.

[@justoutlaw6423]

It takes 30-40 miles to break these in. Tranformation is magical.

[@i.p2088]

Great review. Keep this guy ❤

[@lukeybear8756]

The uh background noise is um…. A lot.

[@CannabisTechLife]

yeah a remote mic for each of them would have been ideal...

[@wvveenen]

Thanks for the honest review! I really liked V1, the nitro felt nice and responsive. V2 felt less 'cheap' but also a bit flat for me. It looks like I am going to have to skip V3 hearing this review...

[@davidg61]

I'm not saying BitR are wrong, but take a look at some of the other reviews too.

[@wvveenen]

@@davidg61 Of course, I know doctors of running were quite positive about the shoe. But from what I hear in the review it doesn't sound like a massive upgrade from V2, just 2mm of more stack. While I like Nitro foam and I think daily trainers like this have their use, a shoe like this probably won't fit in my rotation with so many other competitors that are either more cushioned or more exciting to run in

[@joaoqrafael]

I LOVE the 1. 2 is meh because of the upper (paddier heel, thinner tongue, snugger and hotter all around). If the 3 goes in the same direction, I may switch to the Liberate as a daily (have the first one and love it for up to 5K, and the second one has a bit more stack, so...)

[@billblunderbuss]

MORE CARL!!!!

[@duplomacette]

Yeah this shoe is pretty uninspiring to me. You’re going to anger the keyboard warriors for crapping on a value cult classic shoe in the KZbin running community. I appreciate your honesty!

[@ucatani]

It’s not bad, it’s a good budget shoe, that’s all. And I’m glad someone said it, even though I own a pair, just because it’s okay to say it. Why do people get so angry? I mean, shoe cults suck and have become epidemic.

[@justoutlaw6423]

What would owers of AF3 say haha? Probably most overated shoe of all time. For 300€ you get glue signs all over the place but ok. What works for some doesn't work for others. @@ucatani

[@markwilliams536]

Any other recommendations for a 2024 ‘snappy’ trainer. Was also disappointed by this one.

[@Believeintherun]

Mach 6, Rebel v4, NOVABLAST 4

[@wordsovsean8905]

I've done almost 400km in the Brooks Hyperion Max and love it. The Saucony Triumph 21 is actually surprisingly snappy for a shoe that's essentially a cruiser. Still early days at around 50km, but I did 2 runs a week apart, a 15km and a 17km with no planned pace and one was 4:44 pace and the other 4:46, with relatively low effort. I find the Novablast 4 to be a clunky, chunky clog with a poor upper. It sits in a box in my wardrobe. I've run 20km in the Velocity 3 and quite liked it. Still, only 20km so difficult to really make a call, but neither the Max or the Triumph are similar to the Velocity. I wouldn't personally call the Novablast 4 snappy, more sappy, as in energy sapping. I wouldn't call the Velocity snappy either. I think snappy can depend a lot on an individual's running mechanics.

[@markwilliams536]

@@wordsovsean8905 thanks for the detailed reply!

[@markwilliams536]

@@wordsovsean8905 Will give the Brooks a long look. Right now I rotate between Velocity 2, Rebel V2 and Superblast (for weekly long run). Im really exhausting the limits of these but havent found a 2024 shoe that I like to replace any (specifically rebel and velocity N 2). Totally agree with Nova being clunky and Velocity 3 didn’t scratch same itch as 2. Also Vomero heel counter was just out of control. Mach 6 and rebel 4 on the way so fingers crossed.

[@lordedmundo23]

No argument - it is firm out of the box. I am hoping mine soften up - I'm around the 30 mile mark now 😬 My first pair of VN2's softened up amazingly - easily my my most comfortable running shoes ever (still wearing after 400 plus miles). However, I bought a second pair that never softened up, so got rid after about 100 miles. I remember BITR's similar review of the Magnify Nitro 1 - my pair of those softened up after maybe 50 plus miles and feel great now. But a much more positive review was given of the Magnify Nitro 2. The Deviate Nitro 2 is Puma's best running shoe however IMO - and here in the UK it is available on discount for less than the VN3.

[@wordsovsean8905]

My Velocity 3 softened up after 1.6km exactly. I have 2 pairs of the Magnify Nitro 1 and they both softened up at around the 2 to 3km mark. I also have the Magnify Nitro 2 and I think they feel firmer than the Magnify 1. They also feel clunkier. The Magnify 1 is a super smooth shoe and number 2 feels clunkier and just like a lot more shoe in my opinion. I agree that the Deviate Nitro 2 is a great shoe. I'm on my second pair. My wife is on her third.

[@nickwalker8975]

I've only put in 30 km but, I'm really enjoying the Velocity 3. As a daily trainer, I feel like it's spot on in terms of comfort and ride. My only criticism would be that the collar feels a bit uncomfortable during the initial 500 m, however, it seems to sort itself out after that. If I was going to nitpick, I'd say I'm a bit disappointed that Puma didn't retain the outsole lugs of version 2. I'm guessing this means the tear drop lugs will be dropped for version 3 of the Deviate and the Deviate Elite. I'm a bit surprised by how dismissive this video is towards version 3 although, I appreciate that we all have different preferences and mechanics (I tend to shy away from soft or max cushion shoes which seems to be a BITR preference). I have to acknowledge that I'm just a mid-pack runner, I'm not a shoetuber so I have very limited experience with other shoes, and I've developed a Puma-bias so I certainly don't believe my opinion is more valid than anyone else. My recent daily trainers have included the Mizuno Wave Rider 24, Velocity 1-3 and Saucony Ride 16 so some might argue my shoe choices are a bit traditional (aka boring). Having said all that, you're COMPLETELY WRONG!😉 I do like to have an alternate set of daily trainers and I'll definitely be looking into the NB Rebel 4 ($220 AUD) and Hoka Mach 6 ($250? AUD). I have no doubt these are superior (but more expensive) shoes but, within a shoe rotation which includes speed day and race day specific shoes, the Velocity 3 ($180 AUD) is brilliant...for me at least. On another note, I always enjoy listening to your podcasts during my recovery runs.

[@GuanxiChen-em9jk]

I have 4 pairs of running shoes, wave rider 26, brooks ghost 15, and a pair of champion 3 from Chinese manufacturer Anta (a pair of nitrogen midsole cushioning running shoes), and recently just got puma velocity nitro 3. To be honest, in terms of overall performance, nitro 3 feels better than the other three pairs. Especially the wrapping, and the feeling of running. Maybe after a certain number of kilometers, the feeling of the midsole will change, but I prefer a harder midsole.

[@xtalenx]

This isn't even a review, just a "First Impression" after 6 miles. Reviews take no time or effort to compare to others in category or price. Garbage review. Check out Yowanna who did 100miles in a week before giving a comprehensive understanding and review of this shoe, or The Run Testers who had multiple videos showing in detail how the fit, run teat and value hold up against other Shoes in this class and price range. Such a lazy effort in this video, Believe in the run folks did a crap job.

[@videoforum4047]

Yowanna is great enthusiastic dude! Love his videos

[@Manuel-901]

Good afternoon. Like from Spain 🇪🇸. Have a nice day.

[@ultramicroscopic2102]

Meanwhile…on another channel, I just watched a reviewer added a casual full marathon distance (not race) test for the shoe (hyperion elite).

[@laoluomisade2438]

Yeah I know…Kieran from the run testers

[@MiracleWarriors]

What they said about the Velocity 3 is what I felt with the Velocity Nitro 2 : went back to the old Nike Pegasus 39&40 , Wave Rider 26 & 27 and I could not be happier. It seems that the version 3 will probably will only be more durable them the v2 since the new shoes are twisting a lot less now , as if they put a torsion system from Adidas ... good job on this stability / anti twisting system.

[@nordicwilly6650]

What was the twisting problem in version 2?

[@MiracleWarriors]

@nordicwilly6650 I had this issue and the huge local store near my home had a few costumers returning the Velocity Nitro 2 as well. The shoes have a dual layer middlesole , one is the Nitro that is super soft and does not give any major support( structure) to the middlesole to prevent it from twisting laterally. So Puma and other brands normally combine a resilient EVA foam with their soft middlesole cushioning. The problem for Puma and the Velocity Nitro 2 is that they put a very small layer of EVA just above the outsole and the weakest and tiniest point of this EVA layer was bellow the arches . So you see, if you overpronate a bit ,like myself, or you are running in uneven terrain, then you will end collapsing your arches .... after a while the tiny EVA just on that weak spot of the shoes will give up and bend and stay that way permanently. So the shoes twist in the middle, by the arches and stay that way, and you no longer can use them for walking and much less for running. This happened to my pair with around 90km of running. Very poor durability of the shoes. But it seems that the Nitro foam and the EVA AND the outsole rubber are all more resistant in the Velocity Nitro 3. It is less soft and comfortable, but it will last longer, even if you overpronate. That is way most Adidas shoes have that Torsion System or rods. This way the shoes will never twist and can get some nice bounce as well from those systems.

[@nordicwilly6650]

@@MiracleWarriors Your detailed response is much appreciated! It seems like the more complicated running shoes get, the more that can go wrong...

[@chrisreyes7326]

Robbe looking different today

[@casillasj2002]

No more vaping Robbe

[@aravaluska954]

I totally disagree 😏

[@lukassisco5286]

Okay, okay, okay- let’s just get to the point and ask where we can all get Thomas’s dope rugby polo. Top shirt, dude.

[@Believeintherun]

Tracksmith

[@viCoN24]

So Velocity Nitro 3 sucks because it's worse when compared to Superblast or Boston 12? Completely different shoes with different price and purpose? You didn't compare it to any other daily trainers - especially at the same or similar price point. Your review for previous model (Velocity 2) got good review, green light and title "The Cat Is Back (And Even Better)". Changed upper and different pattern of less outsole coverage suddenly makes the same TPEE/EVA sandwich stiffer up to the point that it becomes horrible? I don't buy it. If you are really fine with comparison between Velocity 3 (one of the top daily trainers for that price class or even slightly above it, $130) vs. Superblast (premium start-ready long distance trainer with race foam, $200) just compare everything to Evo 1 already. Why satisfy for less? This initial review felt lazy compared to other content creators who logged over 100km in these and fairly compare it to other competitors of the same class.

[@Believeintherun]

He wasn't comparing it to those, if you slow down and listen to what he said again, he said he was looking forward to running in a more traditional shoe *because* he wanted something that wasn't a super trainer. Not a comparison at all to those.

[@duplomacette]

He said those were shoes he’d most recently run in. He wasn’t comparing.

[@viCoN24]

@@Believeintherun I don't feel I'm wrong. You mention Superblast and Boston 12 as the shoes you used recently so that is your point of reference coming down to Velocity 3, being disappointed by that model and deciding not to use it anymore. If you are not comparing Velocity 3 to those models then what are you referring to by claiming that Velocity 3 has dull ride? Compared to those super trainers most, if not all, daily trainers have dull ride so why would you not give a better example? You end the video by mentioning that nobody wants to run in this model anymore so it looks to me that it might be the only review we will get from you. If you make a claim, provide an example. If Velocity 3 has dull ride, give us an example of some other model with the best ride for comparable shoe tier. I don't understand the point of coming from super trainers to simple daily trainers, picking one model, complaining about it and not comparing it to relevant competition for the same type of running shoe. If you are just coming back to daily trainers, slow down, take your time, understand the competitors and give us better feedback over a longer review rather than some knee-jerk reaction in first thoughts. You're better than that.

[@Believeintherun]

Better shoes in the same category, New Balance Rebel v 4, Hoka Mach 6, ASICS NOVABLAST 4, Skechers Ride, Saucony Kinvara, to give a few off the top of our head.

[@its1027]

this one lacks listening comprehension smh

[@TheZlantan1926]

just watch their review for velocity 2,everything was perfect.

[@Believeintherun]

You understand this is a different shoe? This is v3.

[@TheZlantan1926]

@@Believeintherun it's almost the same shoe,if you loved v2 can't hate v3

[@Believeintherun]

“Love” there wasn’t love. Sorry we didn’t like this one. With reviews, remember that they are also dependent on what else is on the market. There are shoes that were great compared to what was available. Brooks Hyperion Tempo was really good compared to other shoes in the category. The shoe was virtually unchanged 2 years later. Other offerings came out that raised the bar. Same shoe two years later felt flat.

[@ronaldmcdo5516]

Is it like Boston 10 bad?

[@Believeintherun]

Different but, end up in the same spot.

[@paulmulks]

What's happening with the release of the Deviate Nitro 3?

[@Believeintherun]

Fall?

[@McFearless80]

Not even Puma Grip ™️ can save you now.

[@italiansurprise]

Seems that you have a bias against any non-PEBA foams.

[@Believeintherun]

You’d be correct. We haven’t tried many foams that equal Pebax in weight and energy return.

[@italiansurprise]

@@Believeintherun can’t really disagree as much as I enjoy some TPU/TPEE/whatever shoes out there.

[@DarkPa1adin]

Title should be First and Last thoughts 😅😂🎉

[@Believeintherun]

True

[@williamunderhill4492]

6 miles? I wouldn't judge the VN3 from this video. I am fifty miles in and they're my first pick in a daily trainer any day.

[@Believeintherun]

What other shoes have you tried? Rebel v4? NOVABLAST 4? Hoka Mach 6?

[@williamunderhill4492]

I’ve had every version of the Rebel and Novablast. Haven’t tried Mach 6. I love the platform and the grip on the VN3 but they have a break in period. For me the Puma is more of a daily mile eater than the Rebel or NB

[@Believeintherun]

This is spec’d out as an uptempo shoe.

[@williamunderhill4492]

It can serve that function but wouldn’t be my first choice for uptempo stuff.

[@KingTay4568]

​@@Believeintherun Liberate or Deviate are the uptempo shoes- Velocity is 1000% the workhorse daily trainer

[@davidg61]

Karl seems cool but you'll really only be doing one run in it? I've heard you so many times say that initially you didn't like a shoe and then you changed your mind. Must be really bad, and I'm wondering now what the dozen other reviewers that I watch are seeing in it when they say it's good. Each to their own, and looking forward to your next video.

[@Believeintherun]

Karl actually had a few runs in the shoe and still felt he'd take his Peg 39 with over 400 miles over it 🤷‍♂️

[@davidg61]

@@Believeintherun fair play. Got the feeling from the video he hadn't run much in it, but maybe he was nervous about the catch! Let's hope the rest of the Puma lineup is better for you guys, I got the VN2 and was impressed, but not desperate for the VN3 yet (too many other shoes).

[@justoutlaw6423]

Uh, Peg 39 is really bad.@@Believeintherun

[@jefreywith1f924]

I need an injection of " Nitro"us oxide after this review and reading the comments.🤪

[@mateuszmrowiec4265]

If you do not want them, send them to me 😊 more than happy to run in them!

[@videoforum4047]

I encourage everyone to watch The Run Testers review of this shoe for a real review instead of this. Seems like you have been spoiled by all the peba based daily trainers that cost 50-100€ more. If you liked velocity 2, basically nothing has changed. You don’t even mention the foam being TPEE which for sure has a breaking period, just like the adios 3 lightstrike pro. The attitude ”I ran a short run on these and instantly knew these are bad” is terrible for a reviewer of your magnitude and made me want to unsubscribe. You film this in some shady alley with a vibe that you dont even want to do the video. The shoe is excellent for the price point but you seem to be way above it without even understanding. Not everyone buys 130€$+ shoes and maybe they wanted to hear how this stacks up with pegasus?

[@alexeytkach]

Robbe without mustache looks really weird

[@NikosXydias-e9y]

Find this review very much out of context and out of measure - not thorough enough and certainly in conflict with all other tests and reviews out there…. This is a great value shoe which offers a lot at a competitive price

[@Carlosediaz543]

Typically believe in the run review… not extremely soft.. don’t like.

[@willem-janageling3907]

Unsubscribed. Very unprofessional review.

[@davidrosenthal5795]

Lighten up Francis. lol this was a very fair representation… you obviously haven’t tried it or you work for Puma. In the future you can just leave and not announce it.

[@RobVanDam1591]

Obviously you didn't watch the whole video.

[@DarkPa1adin]

How is it unprofessional? It is only a first impression

[@mattheweley]

Sir, this is a Wendy’s

[@chalequin]

We’re gonna miss you William , take care buddy