Punk't | The Steve Dangle Podcast

[@Donthaveagoodname]

ONE HOUR on the Leafs vs Bruins on a 2 hour podcast upload that I'm starting with two hours left for work. Amazing.

[@Hockeyhobo89]

It’s one of those days where I’m so glad it landed accordingly. Immediate pod to dig deep on that game.

[@MrBlk4]

Yeah this should be called the sdpn leafs podcast. Nobody who's isn't a leafs fan should even know this exists.

[@Droz75]

@@MrBlk4 To bad the Leafs are what the majority of people tune in for.

[@Hockeyhobo89]

@@MrBlk4 it’s for Leaf fans, you don’t see me watching Bruin podcasts 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@BarnesGannon]

Cry about it@@MrBlk4

[@jiujitsujunkee]

Watching Steve get mad is one of my favorite parts of hockey season, so much damn fun

[@redheron4321]

That hour long conversation on the Leafs was cathartic. Thanks so much guys. Felt good to hear.

[@georgies1063]

Awesome pod guys. Kudos to Adam for all the planning he puts in and his efforts to wrangle Steve into staying on track ! 😅

[@DR.DisInfect]

Adam is the best

[@mikmack1449]

Adam Wilde, I have to say, “He’s a good spoon!!” had me on the floor. Oh my!!😂😅

[@SpaceArrow617]

Exams going nuts this week, thanks boys I needed this one

[@Lekky93]

That was a really good point you made about Calgary and Matthew Tkachuk, Adam.

[@happytrails151]

I agree. He definitely looks like he would be smelly

[@geebster.]

The worst part about the Sharks game too...is their ONE goal was such obvious goaltender interference that even it shouldnt have counted. They didnt review it because... who reviews a goal against when you have already scored 10, theres no class in that, but if that is a closer game, that wont count.

[@2Jim2u]

did you look at the Sharks' schedule leading up to the 10-1 outcome?

[@HiMrBuggy]

It counts for your goalie though... but I guess you would not want to rub it in

[@BrotherAlpha]

They should have reviewed it to preserve the shutout.

[@geebster.]

@@BrotherAlpha with 7 mins left, I don't know I could easily see them trying to injure someone after or people like those in this podcast seeing that as insulting/classless. I personally wouldve preferred they did for Demko but i understand why Tocchet didnt.

[@johnmaxwell273]

Good on Tocchet for letting it go, interference or not. Demko still had a .968. And the Sharks had about the toughest schedule in the league leading up to the game. Blackwood and Kahkonen are up against it every game. I hope Blackwood beats the Pens or Flyers.

[@MrC37]

Crazy to see the Leafs did nothing last night. Compare that to the Lightning losing their minds on Morgan Rielly because they thought he touched Brayden Point as he was going into the boards.

[@raygaub9861]

Nice to get back to the Leafs deep dive

[@markmallay6752]

Opportunity - If Adam's raises an X amount of dollars for Rachel's Raiders we get a BFR on SDPN for the next Bruins Leafs game

[@sam93931]

gotta love how they blame a ref for all their misery and player injured.. it was a 2 min miss call, get over it, it happens.

[@dahburnface75]

ANY PLAY THAT RESULTS IN INJURY SHOULD BE REVIEWABLE!!!!!!!!!

[@MrKounty01]

Great take on the leafs! Fun fact: Michael Andleur the person that bought and moved the Belleville Bulls to Hamilton now owns the Belleville Senators lol

[@chrisg1556]

A team usually takes the identity of its star players. Unfortunately for the leafs their star players are soft and scared of any rough stuff. Look what happened last playoffs when Point went into the boards. It was Kucherov and Stamkos that immediately jumped in. Even when Draisaitl got chopped by Pietrangelo McDavid rushed in and did something. Go down the list. McKinnon, Crosby etc. They all aren't afraid to respond. Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Rielly are all soft af.

[@jonasgorea3823]

I was gonna say this exact comment, well done

[@predestinedbyGod]

Rielly is not but the rest of your point is valid

[@chrisg1556]

@@predestinedbyGod True, he has shown that he is atleast willing to get his hands dirty. The other 4 though have never shown that.

[@protoman1365]

Meh, Crosby and Malkin aren’t much responders. Yet they have three cups. That being said, Crosby is the kind of leader that can fire up his team and get them to respond. I don’t think Matthews or Tavares necessarily needs to be more physical, but if they won’t do it themselves they need to do a way better job of firing up guys like Reaves and Bertuzzi to be physical for the rest of the team.

[@predestinedbyGod]

@@protoman1365 Crosby and malkin drop the gloves and are very nasty in the playoffs back in there elite days

[@cridd83]

Justin Bourne is always incredibly insightful and eloquent. Not sure if it's possible because contracts or whatever, but he'd be an amazing guest to have on the podcast!

[@doug7170]

Last yr Bergeron got a cheap shot from pitlick Marchand immediately pummeled him in Boston its a culture thing sadly Toronto is not even close

[@MechanisedChaos]

I was not expecting an INXS reference lmao

[@jonathansaraco]

46:40 Using Kampf in the opening faceoff of OT is not because he's the best faceoff man. It's so that if he wins it, he goes to the bench and they sub in Matthews. If he loses it, he's one of our best defensive forwards and he stays on the ice to defend until we get the puck. His role isn't take the faceoff and leave right after no matter what. Agree with that strategy or not, but Kampf wasn't "stranded" because he couldn't go back to the bench. The plan is he stays out to defend, and that's what he did.

[@Puckguy14]

Prepping for the Sharks jokes.

[@robreid546]

It's hard to believe that the Leafs and Habs have identical records after this game. And Friedman declared the Canucks the best team in Canada today. Crazy. Bye-bye, Bertuzzi, and Reaves.

[@codydavidyates72]

Na na na na...

[@chrisg1556]

Its 10 games into the season. Do you truly believe that the leafs wont be ahead of the Canucks and Habs by season end?

[@ajbolt7]

@@chrisg1556I certainly believe they’ll be ahead of the Habs but I could see the Canucks and Leafs being pretty close

[@robreid546]

@chrisg1556 , no, I don't, I was saying "as of today." The Leafs "snot acquisitions" seem to have blown their noses. Changes are coming.

[@pendy_2969]

High ankle probably 6-8 weeks depending on how bad. The AITF ligament is very important for stability of the distal tib fib joint Which is very important for ankle stability and ankle movement. Same with syndesmotic membrane tear

[@killerpancakes7069]

I’m so excited for this one ☝️

[@mitch2764]

Adam talking about getting in fights at a charity tournament lmao.

[@chrisg1556]

Some guys are competitive regardless of the situation. When the Leafs and Wings played in the outdoor game in Toronto a while back, Roberts and Draper got into a fight in the legends game. They wanted to kill each other 😂

[@Christhegreatbro]

Did the Leafs shut us all up on Saturday? Nope...

[@codydavidyates72]

4:55 adam noticed steves poppy is on backwards (or whatever?) but lets him continue his rant for a bit

[@frog9695]

Shoutout to Low Quality Bruins Fan. He does his own version of LFR for the Bruins including skits and good commentary.

[@martingiguere1202]

Best Sport? Sure Worst league/organisation? **laughs in FIFA**

[@alihamzajanjua]

Really looking forward to Adam's fan reaction segment: Wylde Words.

[@ralphlogan5211]

Pause at 17:40. Wes is watching the play happen, but Marchand's body is directly in his line of sight, he CANNOT see his stick from this angle. Breaking down a 3 second clip of a trip frame by frame to justify your point, is not a valid argument. Wes is not out to get the Leafs, he's not the boogey man with a personal vendetta. You all see a conspiracy, and then when a missed call happens, that's your confirmation bias. Missed calls happen folks, to every team out there. It 100% should have been called a trip, but its not even the worst trip that has been missed this week around the league. Judging by the uproar though, its the worst missed call in the history of the sport.

[@paulmatts2015]

Sundin is legit the only person I've ever been star struck meeting. Couldn't even say a word. Dude was a house, the house at the time, C. Unreal experience honestly.

[@continentalrcinglg]

Steve at 37:08 is me when Nick Bonino signed for the Preds literally a month after beating them in the Stanley Cup Final as a Penguin.

[@faultysynapse9195]

Not a big Leads fan but this discussion needs to be had.

[@mattwilliamsonguitar]

The Leafs aren't a fan of leads either. 😁😁😁

[@joes8244]

Toughness starts from the top. Coach and star players down. Would domi or Reaves even be able to take a bad penalty defending a teammate without getting benched?

[@mars3177]

This is the Toronto Maple Leaf's formula the past five years, stick with the core 4, make the playoffs and hopefully get lucky

[@scottpressnail543]

I am a Red Wings fan who loved Tyler Bertuzzi. I remember watching him play for Guelph in The OHL and kept hoping he'd make The Red Wings. I hated losing him last season but I understood why. When he is healthy he plays with snot. Something is wrong with him. It's sad that The Leafs can't give him time off due to cap restrictions.

[@benchow8851]

and yet...the League didn't come in and say whatever Marchand did was an infraction...

[@ADragonNamedSpyro]

Thank you flr re-capping the LFR Jesse

[@mitchsmith7472]

I honestly can't believe how many hockey fans think Marchand had a clean hit on our guy. Like.. wtf. We are the literal joke of the league

[@BaneOfV]

Steve hit the nail on the head at the end. Brown is getting fckd because someone told him to sign that deal, now that person works with the oilers. Yeah straight up greasefire there, insane

[@MachoWrestling101]

Leafs have as many wins as Buffalo, gonna be a good tilt saturday

[@chrisg1556]

Outside of Boston the other 6 teams in the Atlantic are very close. The difference between last and second is 5 points. Easily the best and most competitive division in the NHL.

[@Razre]

The 19-20 Red Wings were so abysmal, the fact that the last 11-12 games of the season were cancelled was a mercy. Even so, the Wings still won 3 of their opening 4 games. To see that the Sharks have 1 point in their first 10 games does make me wonder if they're actually worse, but time will tell.

[@skyborne80]

I've never listened to or watched Steve Dangle before, and I'm a Leaf fan, imagine that. But I've heard lots of great things about him and it's all true!

[@Donquity]

Adam was right once! 😄we're with you mr Wylde, we're with you!

[@leebird76]

Also if this was a Stanley Cup playoff game this would be another Kerry Fraser moment. Wes McCauly saying he didn't see the play while looking directly at the play.

[@pdcrmr]

Ottawa should sue the league for misrepresentation

[@Droz75]

100% a dirty trip that should've been a penalty.

[@shaneboegeman8638]

The reason Markstrom did not play the puck is because it never comes out of the no-touch zone.

[@mikmack1449]

Adam said no to a cool $1M so later he can say he took less.

[@carolynquinn8325]

It's not what Marchand thinks so much as what your injured teammate thinks, what the rest of your teammates think, what your fans think, what you think of yourself. Man, I've seen a lot of bad Leafs teams over the years but I have never been so suddenly sickened (except for maybe after the Knies injury vs Florida) and just done with a game like I was that night. In the heat of action, there are lots of variables that you can't control, but this is something every player on that team could have shown in any myriad of different ways - and they just didnt, absolute crickets besides some mild words from a bench ridden Reaves. It's a worrying trend to see these guys so ultra apathetic. Who would want to be on a team where your teammates couldnt give an eff about you or eachother? It's bad mojo, man.

[@acspenner]

I think we're all still waiting for Adam to make his point

[@geordieangus4955]

You guys breaking down the Marchand trip like the Zapruder Film is absolutely hilarious. Get over it.

[@Patti2002-b5t]

Coming from an external fan who loves this pod. When the leafs signed Bertuzzi I said “very cool… still a HUGE downgrade on Bunting”

[@mp40submachinegun81]

the ENTIRE point of kampf in overtime is if the faceoff is lost kampf is the better player. him and marner are the pk, why waste matthews skating around and getting tired when hes chasing a puck? what offensive opportunities are missed because of this? none, he gets off as soon as posession. low hanging fruit to be mad about. everyone praised it when it started, because it was objectively better.

[@trigs1326]

I agree. David Kämpf is not the reason the Leafs are sucking

[@cousinjimmy2638]

The only way to fix this team is to trade for some sandpaper. You aren't going to get a Konecny cheap. If I'm Toronto, I try to deal Marner for Konecny and Hart. If I'm Philly I consider it but I worry that Marner is going to pout and not be cooperative in Torts system.

[@deltagolavista1]

Once again, a single courtesy call to Dadonov's agent by the Vegas Golden Knights would have rectified all of this 'lost money' argument. Vegas treating their players like cattle caused this incident, not anything that Dorion held or withheld from the club.

[@collinclary5762]

found the sens fan

[@MildandLazyGuy]

The Quest for the next Regular Season Cup ™️ rolls on.

[@2Jim2u]

Not a Leaf fan, but, your 20 minute discussion about Liljegren's injury, what's the outcome? nothing? okay. How about a referee of same calibre up in the boxes overlooking close ups of "oopsies" and a delayed penalty called? maybe minutes later? is that the solution? because you guys have the luck of using slow motion/repeats, that referee is being blinded by Marchand's action in full speed, by Marchand's body.

[@BrotherAlpha]

6:00 ... Marchand isn't a tough guy. He doesn't back down, because he knows the league will protect him. He can be as dirty as he wants to be and if anyone tries to fight back, they will be punished and he won't.

[@joshuabutterwick3156]

I couldn't of said this better myself

[@timvyfvinkel4542]

8 suspensions, is too few. Him and Pronger had what 7 suspensions. Both dirty shitters. Don't defend him, He leads the league in suspensions for a reason dumb shyte.

[@timvyfvinkel4542]

Marchand was suspended 5 games for slew footing Salo and it was cleaner than this latest crap

[@BrotherAlpha]

@@cardsnbargains1873 A couple of years ago, he was suspended for slew-footing OEL while playing against the Canucks. I didn't see the game, so I tried to look up the slew-foot on KZbin and found the clip. Except the jersey's were wrong. ... Because it was a clip of Marchand slew-footing OEL when OEL still played for the Coyotes. Not only was this not the first time he did this. This wasn't even the same time he did the same offence to the same player. The fucker is dirty. If he wasn't protected by the NHL, he would have been kicked out permanently by now. And if you try and go after him in game, then forget about it. The refs will hit you hard.

[@anthony2507]

Marleau's $6.25M cap hit cost the Leafs a 1st (13th - Seth Jarvis) to move.

[@collinclary5762]

Thanks leafs Jarvis breakout is here

[@Lekky93]

Wasn't Wes refereeing the game 2 in Boston 2019? The worst officiated game of all time?

[@drewlally2324]

Nah Game 5 of the 2019 Stanley Cup finals was the worst officiated game

[@Asymmetrical-Saggin]

Lmao still crying about a game 4 years ago.

[@anthonyfaccaro7118]

​@@drewlally2324It was a dive, and you had 6 other games where you could have won, but this blues fan enjoys your tears.

[@mattheww7846]

It was Brad Meier and Trevor Hansen

[@paulmarimootoo2059]

You were the same guys that ran bunting out of town.

[@DoctorLexus2505]

Honest question: better to be san jose or leafs right now? San jose never more ripe for rebuild

[@lorenzowood7263]

Low quality Bruins fan is our LFR get outta here lol Love you guys

[@RandomGuyCDN]

We've all seen locker room footage from lots of teams and I swear every single one of them where the lineup board is visible they have the reffing line up in the top corner somewhere. It's never been recorded but the only reason they have it anywhere has to be because the coach has a talk about who's calling the game tonight with the players pregame. Which is kinda wild that you even have to do that.

[@markhaskett7947]

Happens in most sports. Baseball is the same way.

[@NIGHTBREED3R]

Dude sells 10% of the HABS for 2.5B then buys the Sens for 950M while depositing 1.05B in the Bank. He must be FRENCH. 😂😂

[@BrotherAlpha]

1:00:00 ... There were Canucks fans who were pissed off over that trade. 'Why give up a pick when you could have gotten him off of waviers for free?!' Lafferty would not have lasted until the Canucks and it is good to build relations with teams in the other division so you can make these win-win trades.

[@89emhcs73]

Whenever you see someone write "cry about it" just know they have zero sports knowledge.

[@kamikazefreak95]

You know, I feel like if Matthews just got in a scuffle or 2, he might realize that getting punched in the face sucks, but its not that bad lol. I feel like he forgets that he's a pretty big guy... just throw it a little bit. Take that punch in the face and laugh as you hit him back.... Nobody is asking him to be what Reavo was in his first 2 games, just get in somebody's face from time to time and let them know you're gunna do something about it...

[@LedriTheThane]

28:23 I think Bertuzzi really misses Detroit and Boston!

[@Zachleonard97]

Bert has always been slow fellas. - Your local detroit red wings fan

[@trigs1326]

David Kämpf is not the reason the Leafs are sucking.

[@theman0015A]

Go look at Shea Webers reaction when Jake Evans got injured my Scheifele in the playoffs. That's how a captian reacts to an injury, not what Tavares was doing zoned out in his own world.

[@MDeAngelis_22]

Adam should’ve chosen the devils for his FR series, what a fake fan 😂

[@mega1211100]

Wes is the Angel Hernandez of hockey.

[@Argent3333]

Every thing you guys covered sounds like a coaching problem Keith keeps getting out coached

[@Broncosbrown9]

I feel bad for the kid at his first sharks game. I can remember my first wings game though. They lost 8-2 to the blue jackets in 2008. The year that they won the presidents trophy and the cup and the jackets were one the worst teams in the nhl lol.

[@testecalle3378]

Worked with a few lads from Halifax when I was working in Ontario and they all had bad things to say about the Marchands lol

[@Hynzy57]

1:49:47 Letang was drafted 62nd overall in the 2005 Crosby Draft. Not top 5…

[@chancebaker6042]

It was a just a puck battle going into the corner

[@yelling3874]

Happy Friday

[@Lymsley]

“Let me make this point” 3 minutes late “Let me make this point” 2 minutes later Adam makes his point. Adam the only person holding you back from making your point is… YOU.

[@terryliamakeros4552]

Is it crazy to think that the Marchand thing is being overblown cause I swear no else is talking about this much

[@BarnesGannon]

I'm with you dude. I feel like I'm on crazy pills listening to this episode lmao

[@Northerngirl15]

3 leafs fans doing a podcast talking about the leafs, like they always do, and you’re pointing out that no one else is talking about it, probably because I dunno, it’s not about them, only thing pointless here is your comment

[@ChilkoXX]

What if you were the guy who's ended up crashing into the boards? Would you still think that was an ok play? It was an attempt to injure another player and he succeeded. We've been all conditioned to accept that crap. It will cost that young player a lot of $$ down the road, he was just starting to play top 4 dman. Now that is set back a year. And you say it's ok.

[@terryliamakeros4552]

@@ChilkoXX one I never said it was ok I just said it was being overblown it should have been a penalty at the very least and the leafs probably shoulda down something. But it’s also baised cause it’s Marchand if it were a rookie who did it would you be as mad probably not

[@pyncz5716]

NHL: punishes the Senators for not disclosing all the information to their trading partners Also NHL, a couple of months earlier: Doesn't disclose all the information about Pinto and the consequences of the Dadonov situation to THEIR trading partner, Michael Andlauer

[@NIGHTBREED3R]

You forgot the 2021 Habs and the 4 Horseman of the Leafs NIGHTMARES ala Carey Price. 😂

[@HandsomeDanVacationRentals]

You guys are right about Brad. You should trade Mathew’s, Marner, Nylander, Samsonov for Markstrom, Lindholm, Huberdeau, Kadri, Hanifin. That will give you the team Brad built……fml.

[@dangshnizzle6929]

When are these guys going to start asking why 90% of players get genuinely worse once under Sheldon Keefe.

[@ButWaitTheresMoore]

There should be a remake of Team America: World Police starring NHL refs.

[@therealtarpy8664]

I’m not a leafs or bruins fan, and I don’t know if it’s just because I’m getting older and don’t find the same content entertaining, but I swear Steve has gotten a lot harder to enjoy watching. And I truly do enjoy the podcast. I watched the LFR and the bruins segment of the podcast and I just don’t get it. Steve saying things like “if you don’t agree with my assessment of a play then you are an idiot and I won’t speak to you.” I get being critical and I get being frustrated over a play, but you’re not the end all be all hockey decider. It’s just not enjoyable to listen to Steve’s elitist views anymore. He just screams over anyone else offering a different opinion and shuts down conversations if they don’t align with his beliefs. Whether you agree with the call or not, you dont have to be a complete jerk. I just don’t like his attitude on plays like that. I hate watching guys get injured and being frustrated over missed calls, but you’re not any more entitled to an opinion over anyone else and I think he forgets that.

[@timothyjesse4689]

Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 love how y'all start the screen grabs AFTER AFTER the liligren interference but we just skip that part huh lmao 🤣🤣

[@anthonyfaccaro7118]

He wasnt purposely trying to injure someone. Do you really not see the difference? If anything calling that penalty prevents the injury so what are you even arguing?

[@stuffnsuch631]

Ironic that sens are penalized for withholding information by the nhl withholding that information...

[@calebmeyer6225]

lol you want a tough team and want to get rid of Bertuzzi, smart

[@steelhalfelven29]

All I can hear in the Sens section, is that Gary Bettman committed FRAUD when he was orchestrating the sale of the Sens. He hid both the trade scandal penalty, AND the betting scandal.

[@MapleDogs82]

Guys this is your most insightful and brutally honest episode I've ever listened to. I fully believe that the Leafs will have two years of struggle because of the salary cap, then Treliving (if he's still here) will make massive changes after the 24-25 season. Until then there's almost nothing that can be done and we are effectively playing entire seasons and short playoff runs with no depth and no cap flexibility. Hopefully some of the young prospects come through big and we have heaps of cap relief to bring in depth particularly on defense.

[@jesseyules]

You guys should actually do the BFR spin off show.

[@AncientMiracle]

Jesus christ Steve's monologue at 52:30, get over yourself. The hubris is insane, I actually can't believe it.

[@mikat164]

adam continuously not understanding the pens' situation is honestly hilarious. even if we don't make the playoffs this year, dubas can't go "we're rebuilding". a) the team is not rebuilding until sid has retired. b) sid, geno, tanger & karlsson ALL have full NMCs. what are you gonna do, tell them to waive them so they can be traded? lol karlsson may do that if we implode but his plan for now is to finish his career here. sid, geno & tanger are not going anywhere. they're going to try for the cup until sid retires. everyone else on the team can change - they cannot. and besides, like. we know we're gonna suck after sid (&geno) retires. we're aware of that. but that's when he retires. why bother thinking about that now. we want him to get another cup. we can worry about the rest later (of course, dubas' job is worrying about it NOW but he is - he's trying to already start the rebuild while still allowing our core to try for the cup again. and he did the best he could over the off-season. we have players that actually [mostly] fit the team. they just need to actually start winning LOL)

[@Awwscrewit]

I hate the team toughness arguement because every time for the last 20 years that Toronto has iced a "tough" lineup they've been penalized to death.

[@redheron4321]

So the answer is just to let other teams bully them to death? Cool.

[@TimGreen87]

This Wes McCauley stuff is some of your guys best work. Well done

[@SirRob24]

Shanny should have been out. Letting Dubas walk to keep Shanahan will probably be a final nail int he coffin with this team.