VGRestore Ep46: SNES 1-Chip With Bad Video

[@craig64345]

You're a gem. A true gold mine of repair information. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@emmettturner9452]

The thing about the rosin flux is that it can be safely out of sight, out of mind, when it seeps under the chip. Some No-clean fluxes are intended for reflow ovens and are actually corrosive without a full heat cycle to activate the flux.

[@vincentrutter8793]

Hi,thank you for your reply,solid black and solid blue,have you some video on these to show problems

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

I’ve had solid black screens usually those are dead CPUs solid blue is quite unique, I did have a console that was giving me a blue screen when I cleaned it with alcohol it than gave me a black screen once the alcohol dried.

[@joshuawilliams9560]

once again, another great vid! Keep em coming bro! Thanks again!

[@aassddff365]

To remove the flux under ic, I use the hot air at about 160 celsius and air at max. That way the flux from under the ic will exit and you can clean it.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Not a bad idea.

[@arlingtontrains7]

That was fun! More please

[@NordicDan]

I want to get an SNES to restore once I finish my NES and N64. Those test cartridges are a great thing to have it looks like. Never realized they made them.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

It’s a reproduction cart. The real ones were used by nintendo at the repair centers.

[@justinlira1841]

This may be a dumb question but is there any chance the chip wasn't bad but just had a bad solder joint somewhere?

[@makedaevilmage]

Hey thanks for making your vids! I bought 3x SNES to repair but I'm not sure how to even go about it. One has a black screen but does have audio, one seems to have some weird texture issue (really noticable in F-zero) and one with what seems corrupted/glitced textures. Judging from watching your video's, the black screen might be a bad cpu? And the other two a bad PPU chip? Colors seem to be fine tho, so most likely not an S-rbg chip problem, right? Perhaps I should try to get a hold of a Nintendo snes burn-in cartridge as well. Thanks again mate!

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

@@makedaevilmage yeah if you’re trying to do these repairs often, get yourself a burn in test cart off aliexpress. The black screen might be capacitors (since you’re getting sound). Try to test with the RF port to see if it gives an image, if so try swapping the caps. The others with corrupt graphics could be a bad PPU, VRAM, or even a bad CPU. I just acquired a box maybe 20-25 snes boards and I’m currently repairing them, so I’ll be getting more fixes on my channel this week. Perhaps one of my repairs will be the same as one of yours and it can help you out.

[@twoodall88]

Well done! For video length, I'm down for whatever you can get out. Interesting>length

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Cool glad to hear.👍

[@will.c.2005]

You are so underrated it’s depressing

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

I know I’m just so busy I need to find someone to help take this channel to the next level. One day perhaps.

[@will.c.2005]

I actually recently bought a snes 1chip with a black screen off ebay for $40. I really hope the cpu isn’t faulty like the one in the video, because I don’t have a donor 1chip board available.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

@@will.c.2005 that’s a good deal, remember in this video I didn’t get a black screen. You may be in luck and it may just need a good clean on the cart slot.

[@will.c.2005]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I can only hope until it comes.

[@kennethshiro9500]

So leaving residue from no clean tacky flux is a no-no?

[@rubenmejia4881]

Usually if you have a no clean flux it shouldn't be a problem, but for the sake of cheap insurance cleaning it off always helps because some fluxes can cause voltage leaks or interference even when they say it's okay to leave it behind. For that reason I always clean because I don't trust any flux! Also for cleanliness it's a peace of mind to eliminate any doubts.

[@rubenmejia4881]

The good thing about the old school rosin after it cools down and solidifies it acts as a insulator so if any liquid damage happens and it's covered in rosin then the chip is most likely safe. Rosin is also way easier to clean all you need is ipa alcohol. No clean fluxes were designed to be left on the board and can be a nightmare to clean off. The best way to clean off no clean is after it's heat up, wipe up as much as you can with a napkin or paper towel q tips as much as you can then use ipa alcohol but while it's hot. If you do it cold it's going to leave a mess everywhere.

[@kennethshiro9500]

@@rubenmejia4881 my concern is more stuff that is left behind under a surface mount component, like for example an smd capacitor. It's easy to clean off, just not in that situation.

[@rubenmejia4881]

@@kennethshiro9500 yeah you should be fine

[@kennethshiro9500]

@@rubenmejia4881also fyi I use the SRA no clean paste which works fantastically. No clean liquid seems like it's basically nail polish remover and works horribly.

[@SuperLuigiGuy64]

Great video, I wish there was a way to clone all these chips.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

I’m sure it’s possible but for those skilled enough to do it, it’s not monetarily worth it for them.

[@gizaha]

Did you ever meet problem in sprite layer? I have a unique problem that no other in the internet has and i cant guess which chip of 3 has the problem.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

I’ve had many problems with sprites of all kinds check out some more of my videos to see if one might be the same issue you’re having. Also check out the super famicom videos as they apply to super Nintendo’s too.

[@gizaha]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Videos do not have the word "sprite" in the title, so i cannot search. And unfortunately, mine passes all tests, so it's blind guess of cpu/ppu1/ppu2.

[@gizaha]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Do you have faulty cpu/ppu1/ppu2 chips? But with recognized problem and their sprite layer working. In order to find which ic of mine has problem.

[@Nathan-lt6bw]

Ok so i'm having this issue where my SNES starts but it's showing glicthy images any ideas?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Probably a bad chip or broken trace. I have other videos on my channel with glitchy images on SNESs and SFCs. Glitchy images are usually ppu1 and ppu2 related, but they could also be WRAM or VRAM. It sometimes could also be the CPU.

[@Nathan-lt6bw]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer damn, better off buying a whole new system then

[@OGSERB]

Personally I’d rather have the working Jr snes. Great video!

[@BarbaDNZ]

I am having a similar problem with an 001 snes. Already swap s-enc, recap all of it, but still get green all over the another colors. Insteresting thing is that after 5 minutes playing the colors back to normal. I wonder if that's could be the ppu 2 as well, or something else in the video circuit. What do you suggest?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Try reflowing the ppu chips and cpu. You might have an intermittent fault on one of the PPU chips that pertain to RGB and color. To be honest I’m not really sure what’s wrong. Try the RF port and RGB cables to narrow the problem down a bit more. If I had to guess it’s not a broken trace it’s probably a bad or failing chip.

[@BarbaDNZ]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I Just swap the ppu2 yesterday and it works fine. Now it shows APU BB, sometimes OO failure on test cartridge, I tried other apu and I get the same error. Seems like this one will be a pain in the ass. I checked the service manual and it prioritizes the apu and then cpu swap for those error codes.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

@@BarbaDNZ save that board for a cpu donor, looks like the cpu is in good shape. Also, try to reflow and clean up the PPU chip a bit that error you’re getting could be to a chip pin leg not soldered properly.

[@ImJCyo]

It sounds like the 1-chip might be my problem. I'm getting dark, blurry video on my SFC. I don't have steady enough hands for solder work though. Might be screwed.

[@vincentrutter8793]

Hi excellent tutorial as always,have you got one that shows what the cause for the black screen and a blue

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

You mean a black screen of death? A solid black screen or a dark image? As for blue screen, is it a blue tinted image or a solid blue image? If you’re getting solid images you could have bad CPUs if you’re getting tinted images you could have a bad RGB chip or PPU2.

[@saasti7272]

What temperature are you using for soldering ?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

300 Celsius

[@mr.flex3019]

Nice video one every few day would be really good

[@Mynameis7nad]

Keep them coming a few a week. More views for you

[@jbsmith86]

You got any more jr boards? I'll buy one off you. I got one that I completely recapped and all the voltages look right, suspecting a chip but nobody sells them

[@pocketlinkmania]

How did you learn to fix stuff like this?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Self taught I guess, I watched a bunch of others do this kind of work and I just replicated their process, then I started trial and error when I didn’t have a source to learn from.

[@pocketlinkmania]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer That's very helpful to know. The thing is is that I'm a beginner who has had close to no experience fixing anything. And I've been faced with the challenges of a snes with the black screen of death and a wii U with the red blinking light of death. And trying to fix them is a hard task. So any advice is appreciated.

[@TheOGJagg]

@@pocketlinkmania Look locally! Try and find some broken systems that are semi easy! Don't dive head first into the hardest items you can find. That isn't the best thing. I started with some NES as they 95% of the time just need to be cleaned and that is super easy. They are fun to take apart and just watch videos like this guys! I love his videos! I learned SOOOOO much from @PunkNDisorderlyGamer He is super helpful and just shows how easy somethings are! if ur buying off ebay steer clear of giant lots. Make look good but it is mostly someone elses Junk they can't fix and they just want to get rid of it! Thats my advice :)

[@pocketlinkmania]

@@TheOGJagg Thanks, that's really helpful information

[@retrogameplus3838]

Morty, are you repairing another SNES?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Awwww geez Rick.

[@mastergamer5779]

I have a console that show the correct colors but when when you jump or move with mario piece of his body can be deformed or the enemies look deformed could this be the chip you first replaced?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Is your console a 1-chip? That sounds like a bad cpu or ppu. Check out some other of my videos on snes and sfc to see if you have a similar fault to those. I’ve repaired quite a few snes on this channel.

[@TheOGJagg]

Yo when is the next video? I know you have a life outside of this but I've watched EVERY one lol! Keep em coming man! Ur awesome :)

[@mr.flex3019]

Need more subs to keep the movies coming 🙏

[@markcordova8126]

Damn you need more subs

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Thanks man, tell your friends then.

[@74bobby]

Damn it just now seen that this was up. I lost my spot on the 1st comment to Bruce again. Bro short Videos are Great do whatevers the best for you. Theres Got to be a way to get this channel more Subs your way underated....

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Lol late on the draw today, maybe next time.

[@evan-1337]

Mine is appearing on the screen with a green tint, I can't tell if it's the same as what you experiencing, what do you think it could be?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Is it a 1-chip? Or multi chip? You could have a bad PPU. If I had to take a guess I’d say it’s a bad PPU2. Try to cross reference here www.projectvb.com/nss/logs.htm

[@evan-1337]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Thank you for the response, it's a multi chip.

[@CarecaRetrogamer]

Wow, wonderful video! It's always SO satisfying to see a faulty SNES come back to life! Just one question though, isn't it possible that the 1-chip just had a faulty solder? I mean, maybe redoing its solders would have done the trick..? It's an HONEST quest, I'm not a smart ass or anything!

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

It is possible but I checked the solder at the time and it seems to be ok. I truly think something went wrong on RGB encoder or the main CPU chip and damaged both chips. I don’t remember if I tried this 1 chip CPU on another console or not. A buddy of mine has a video game shop and he has a few snes junior consoles that are FUBAR and if I need 1 chip CPUs, I can buy parts from him.

[@CarecaRetrogamer]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Yeah, I have watched some of your videos and I noticed u have like a BOX of snes boards... I happen to have SOME snes here at my place (I live in Brazil) that I got along the years, the last count I made I had 14 working and 2 faulty ones. lol Oh, and before I forget, thanks for answering my question! :)

[@yeolemillinial8295]

you the one chip could have just needed reflowed?

[@thebig_steel]

Where did you learn how to repair retro consoles to this level of depth? I'd love to watch an in-depth video about the beginner basics of repairing actual components like you did in this video, rather than just cleaning.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

It was broken traces I showcased it.

[@bakeroo9414]

bro i have 2 snes one with the plug and play sound board and one like this one in the video, the problem is on the one with plug and play sound board i cant play killer instinct in that snes because i get corrupted graphics and snes freezes, the same cartridge works well on my other snes the one like this video, and i just got the problem on Killer Instinct Game have you ever seen this error?

[@switchport-y1w]

The boards with SHVC sound have the first revision CPUs which are prone to failing. Freezing and graphics issues sounds like that CPU is going bad. :,,- 0

[@seththompson4559]

I have an SNES that has audio but no video. Could I send it to you to diagnose and fix? I'll pay the cost.

[@ctrujil24]

Hello! Let me know if you can help me out. I have about 15 Snes motherboards that all have some kind of issue or another. Could be a cool video for you to also record. Let me know bro thanks!

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Thanks again, but I’ve seen stopped doing repairs. Honestly idk if I even remember how to fix these consoles anymore. Sorry once again.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Update: I might be getting back into repairs, you still got those boards? Email me we might be able to square away some details. [e-mail]

[@Stormmover]

Can you fix the chip?

[@bradybrotherton9778]

I sure liked this video. I think it's easier on you to do shorter videos which is fine with me man

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

This video didn’t take me long to put out I do have a few coming up that shouldn’t take too long either. Only thing I didn’t like about this video was the lighting, I ordered a flex light from amazon hopefully it helps during the nighttime work sessions.

[@bradybrotherton9778]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer it was recorded during the night? That's why it was darker then so I'm glad you uploaded another video I'll be looking forward to more

[@Tele3C]

ciao Daisuke Jigen😎

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Haha yes.

[@Arcade_Mania]

finally, u need to upload more i can’t wait 😡😡

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Yes, coach.

[@Arcade_Mania]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer that’s my boi

[@maxalves8670]

Parabéns ótimo trabalho

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Muito obrigado👍

[@ZolotarevAleksandr]

go bro! hi in the Russia )

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

🖐 Hello, thanks for watching.

[@BurnOmatic]

Fixitphil FTW

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

He has a great channel on twitch and KZbin. 👍 I got these sent in from him.

[@BurnOmatic]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer yeah ive been a mems for a while but i only knew people from his facebook i did know about youtube and twitch though. was wondering if you were on his facebook.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

@@BurnOmatic I don’t have Facebook, unfortunately.

[@billybullfrog]

Nice 👍

[@Tele3C]

ciao Jigen 😎

[@MundoNintend0]

Hello, I really like your snes repair videos and I want to ask you, I have 2 bad consoles, both of them do not shoot video, I can send them to you and you repair them and I pay you for your service, I will be awaiting your response.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

Repairing SNES’s wouldn’t normally be a problem, but in the case of a bad CPU I would have to have a donor board and to destroy a working board it’s a bit redundant, unless of course I have one with some other fault. So if I have to swap 2 surface mount chips I would charge $35 each console and you would have to pay shipping both ways. Let me know if you still are interested.

[@MundoNintend0]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I am willing to send you the consoles and there you check them for the payment, no problem, I can pay you by PayPal and I cover the shipping of both consoles in both directions, you tell me how we agree.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

@Mundo Nintendo email me

[@MundoNintend0]

@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer okey Thank You

[@konsolkraft2022]

Hello, and great work! How can I contact you?

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

My newer videos should have my email in the description