Putin and the Presidents: Marie Yovanovitch (interview) | FRONTLINE

Marie Yovanovitch served as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine from 2016 to 2019. She has also served as an ambassador to the Republic of Armenia and the Kyrgyz Republic. Yovanovitch is currently a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
The following interview was conducted by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Michael Wiser for FRONTLINE on Sept. 28, 2022. It has been edited for clarity and length.
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[@carolutley6523]

Of course, Trump fired this woman. Her integrity and intelligence shine through. Not his type. Great interview 👍

[@hugodgranados4215]

Well said

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

If trump had his way, it be miss universes running loads of departments. 😂

[@tonyv5202]

She sounds stupid, this is low IQ propaganda. Even dumb old orange man could see through her, what's your excuse. She hit your anti Russian racist soft spot didn't she?

[@carolutley6523]

@@tonyv5202 stop watching fox

[@jamram9924]

Trump’s foreign policy didn’t align with what she believed and supported. There are many other diplomats and scholars that believe we overstepped our boundaries by supporting former Eastern Bloc countries to join NATO. Russia has been very protective of their Western flank since this is where they’ve been invaded in the past. We don’t have the luxury to replace Putin with a more pro Western leader. We know Russia possesses the largest nuclear warheads next to the US.

[@charlessomerset9754]

Listening to Yovanovich and Loffe in these expanded interviews has done more to educate me about Ukraine and Russia than a thousand soundbites from the large networks.

[@racoonfrenzy3617]

Then you'd love the Timothy Snyder interviews at least as much

[@dwl3006]

​@@racoonfrenzy3617 Too bad for both of you because you're listening to rhetoricians not educators.

[@tabascopronto]

I like how people bring up the 90s as such a "traumatic experience" for russians that they had no other choice but hate the West. The 90s happened to all former soviet and some Warsaw Pact countries. Look up pictures of Polish cities at that time - same misery, homeless kids and broke grandmas. Ukraine had an even worse time, because we did not inherit all the oil and gas to help fund a recovery, and did not receive as much foreign aid as Russia did at the time. And yet, all these other countries found a way to deal with the "trauma of the 90s" without invading anybody every 7-10 years.

[@muzaaaaak]

I have never seen a ladder with all top rungs only. Every ladder starts with a bottom rung and progresses accordingly. How many rungs you climb determines how high you’ll go up the ladder. The hard work of former Soviet countries has been and will be rewarded for their hard and continuous climb. There’s no other way to success. Just do the work. Russia, however, has refused to do the work. And they’ll continue to suffer the consequences.

[@persephone1062]

@@muzaaaaak Well said... TY for pointing out the obvious!!! It's worth mentioning that Russia's monumental corruption and kleptocracy is also a major contributing factor...

[@ianworley8169]

I've never considered that, but now you mention it, that's so obvious. Thank you.

[@prabuddhaghosh7022]

Ex Soviet Republics and Eastern European countries were subsidized with cheap Russian oil and gas from the 70s onwards. When they lost the cheap oil when Russian oil privatized, these countries suffered. Russia suffered despite natural riches as the privatization was done haphazardly and state assets handed over to oligarchs who proceeded to loot the country and move their ill gotten gains into London, New York and Zurich. Putin slowly cracked on the oligarchs and got back the nations wealth. At the same time he tried to buy influence in ex USSR and ex Warsaw pact countries by restoring the subsidized oil. Yet these countries chose market integration with EU over subsidized oil. Ukraine is a prime example. Russia gave super cheap oil to Ukraine to persuade them to join the Eurasian Union. Yanukovich even decided to pursue the Eurasian Union instead of European Union. But then we know what happened. The competition moved from economics and diplomacy to force and violence.

[@Cythil]

There is something to it, that the bigger they are, the harder they fall. It was pretty clear that Russia was the lead Republic in USSR. Having far greater influence and in general getting more of the resources. Especially the more central parts of Russia, such as Moscow and Leningrad (Now Saint Petersburg). And it was a Traumatic experience. But is not something the west should be blamed for. At least not alone. Since that was a lot of Russia's own making. And a lot of former USSR republics had a lot worse (and still have it worse). Could the west have handled it better? Yeah. Especially those who naively thought forcing tough Capitalism at any cost would solve all issues. No matter the corruption. No matter the sacrifices to democracy. But that was not just a western idea. That was an idea that exist in Russia itself. Before Yeltsin was mainly known for his drinking problem, he was this roughless enforce of this transition that both step on people democracy and lead to more corruption. His alcoholism was a problem. But it was not truly the character flaw the defined him. As much people like to blame it. Remember. It was Yeltsin that put Putin in power. We can also see this with Russia. Russia was not taking over by foreign billionaire from the west. It was taken over by its own billionaire from it own ranks. Often people who had power in the old USSR order. Yes. They were inspired by "western" ideas of "free market" capitalism. There were some western economic advisors. But it is often the same men who now planned this insane war to rebuild a Russian Empire that took those ideas to heart. The Oligarchs that are so close to Putin. So while I am ready to say that the ideology that drove the transition of Russia after the collapse of the USSR was increasable damaging, it a ideology that is still embraced by the leadership. They have had bad teachers, but the exploitation was all done by themselves. And the leadership they have now do not even see this exploitation as something wrong. The one thing the leadership seem to dislike is how they're treated as lesser. But problem here is that USSR used to be feared and treated as higher respect. While Russia was treated as an equal. But they were so used to the Royal treatment, even back when it was the Russian Empire, that such an equal status treatment was seen as lowered respect. When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. (Now, USA tend to treat everyone as lesser. Even when then that was not their intent. That is it own little issue. But the solution to that is not to have more nations acting like the USA in the world. But bring down USA one peg by sticking together. It is actually harder to be the bully if you're the only one and everyone else are equal. But if you establish a hierarchy then everyone can be a bully, except the ones at the bottom, and so the hierarchy can kept reinforced even by the one just one step above the bottom even if they are victims too) And I have to say. A lot of Russians who are just everyday people do not seem to hate the west at all. Most want to just live their lives and let others live theirs. This was not a grassroots movement to go to war with Ukraine. If anything, the general public greatest flaw is that they are pretty apathetic, with a tint of fear for authority. And that is just how the leadership in Moscow wants it. They want people unengaged in politics and just leave it to the leadership.

[@johnnytampocao7671]

Great interview with a great topic from a very intelligent woman. I have the utmost respect to her when she confronted the Trump and stand by her principle. I enjoyed watching your interview from the former Ambassador to Ukraine as well as your interview with Julia Loffe, they are two remarkable brave women.

[@ebthedoc4992]

I am so grateful to Ambassador Yovanovitch, for her detailed memory of the timeline!

[@edwardcreegan236]

These PBS interviews are so interesting. Could listen to them all day.

[@dotabuff5288]

SO MANY BOTS HERE, STOP TYPING BULLSH1T, SHE IS A WARMONGER AND A LIAR

[@19cerni91]

That is what they are ment to do. Propaganda

[@AlleyandGrey]

@@19cerni91 👈 Macedonia bot farm account

[@primalamusica3]

Me too, excellent! I have listened twice to JULIA IOFFE

[@billykorg5984]

Your ears are capable with lies

[@pavelg4990]

As a Russian I want to add one thing to this brilliant synopsis: the humanitarian trauma of the 1990s is merely a talking point to Putin, at the time as a deputy mayor of St. Petersburg he oversaw the local «food for oil » program in such a way that oil payments were received by his sham companies but the western food never made it to the babushki… (this was investigated at the time by the ethics committee led by Marina Salier (googlable) who had to hide in a cabin in the woods for the rest of her life once Putin advanced his carrier). The world should never forget that Putin is not a statesman, he is cleptocrat. He went too far in his crimes against Russia, that he robbed himself of an exit strategy. He needs power to survive. It’s also important to remember that for over 22 years there’s been a history of Russian resistance to this psychopath with a little man complex, and it continues. The west should not worry, in pragmatic terms, of Russia going into permanent chaos without Putin, we will be fine, there is a civic society in Russia. We are all allies in this - one thing to do - arm Ukraine asap, tanks, fighter jets, overwhelming force to save human life - civilians, Ukrainian troops and even my brainwashed or illegally mobilized countrymen.

[@persephone1062]

@Pavel G: 👍👍👍

[@sabinehahn9774]

Yes, people always forget that - Putin is not a statesman, he is an incredibly politically talented gangster of the worst kind.

[@terryjames548]

Your reference to Putin stealing money in St Petersburg was broadcast on Frontline on American TV years ago. More people should know this. Thanks.

[@nilslarson7532]

interesting comment . unlike honest leaders like for instance former US president . Obviously you feel that Ukraine or for that matter the west has not been part in bringing it to this point. Poland as well. I just hope that this will end soon and relations with Russia can develop in a positive and consistent direction without being hampered by other nations who do not wish to support such.

[@terryjames548]

@@nilslarson7532 What did the Ukraine do to threaten Russia? Nothing.

[@steini6771]

Marie Yovanovitch. The world is such a better place when we have you and the like. Thank you so much.

[@michel3691]

@Debed you need to do your research more thoroughly.

[@steini6771]

@Debed Ja, ganske moro -

[@steini6771]

@@michel3691 Daer t`nac I tub esrouc of - lol

[@anonymousoutis6420]

a better place with peace for Iraq, Lybia, Seria, afgha, kosovo

[@mjcambron]

Marie Yovanovitch, Thank you for your service and for agreeing to this interview. Very informative.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

Another warmonger.

[@ciujo]

@@jakebredthauer5100 I don't like her.

[@tonyv5202]

When you said "thank you for your service" you meant her service to the deep state through her job at the Ukro propaganda unit, right?

[@carlettesouthern-robert2992]

@@jakebredthauer5100 Yes, Jake You are a war monger b/c appeasement of tyrants and dictators leads to war. How many times do we repeat this lesson? The repeated mistake of appeasement has caused the deaths of millions. Appeasement of Putin will cause catastrophe. Putin must be stopped now!

[@carlettesouthern-robert2992]

@@ciujo Of course you don't like her. She is way smarter and capable then you are, ciusca john.

[@Laura-LaFauve]

She is a great and intelligent woman. We could use more like her in our government. ❤️💯

[@js6752]

Intelligent doesn’t mean correct

[@michel3691]

@@js6752 It doesn't mean incorrect either.

[@js6752]

@@michel3691 no it doesn’t but in her case it does. Trump strengthened NATO and he’s the only President so far that Putin hasn’t been aggressive under, not to mention the Trump energy policies were in direct conflict to Putin’s interest - so her characterization of Putin during Trump’s presidency is an outright lie.

[@Spuzaw]

@@js6752 lol what are you on about? Trump has straight up encouraged Russia to attack are NATO allies, and threatened to leave NATO. Trump has done nothing but hurt NATO and our allies.

[@seanc6754]

Man i just love all the extremely knowledgeable people Frontline brings on to talk.. I would like for y'all to get more people on China up on these videos please

[@odoggow8157]

More like dishonezt

[@pellman87]

@@odoggow8157 Back under a rock, bot.

[@bdk1947]

@@odoggow8157ore like they believe they are being honest. It seems to be cognitive dissonance based on your point of view. But you can’t dismiss the statement, these are all knowledgeable people. And they all have different opinions on this series. These issues are nuanced, so people are propagating, quite eloquently, their understanding of the facts. Unfortunately, facts are fluid. Our money, travels the world, and is the root cause of many problems. And other countries follow suit. Can we, as a country, manage our money better.

[@markwestphal4437]

Now that's an ambassador. She answered all the questions, she gave informed insights, and she did it quietly yet firmly. I would vote for her for president.

[@anthonycook6613]

I also liked the way she answered the questions put to her. I especially noticed that a lot of her answers started with a direct "Yes" or "No", which is refreshing (but might make her an unsuitable presidential candidate ;-) ).

[@georgel7222]

baloney! when cross examined the will break into pieces like a glass.

[@lukemurray4950]

She said Russia is saying it is a big boys world and smaller nations will just have to put up with it but yet she ignores, this is exactly what America done with Cuba and most of South America and would do it again. No nation in the Americas is allowed to have the freedom to have a military alliance with anyone outside the Americas.

[@ricardothompson5697]

@Luke Murray they don't want to talk about that lybia Syria Afghanistan samalia and the list goes on but that's not what's important once it's not coming from America its wrong but when America does the same he's the devil etc

[@hawkbartril3016]

@@anthonycook6613 do you know what the Wolfowitz Doctrine is, because you should look it up and then ask yourself if that's good for the world.

[@garybowler5946]

I love seeing the long form interviews it really adds alot to the over all story.

[@Laura-LaFauve]

Yes. The long form is much better.

[@rhodyreport8949]

Much of what was said about Russia was factual correct, and it's been said Russia & U.S are both nation leaders!

[@rhodyreport8949]

Under President Trump we had no war's!!!! We had sucessful domestic prosperity, energy independent, biggest tax cuts, highest employment, and Trump did defend the U.S. , this women has an issue with Giuliani and everyone who doesn't accept her point of view!!

[@jimwheeler6094]

@@rhodyreport8949, it's understandable why Marie Yovanovitch would have a problem with Trump's attempted extortion of Volodymyr Zelensky. As for that fallacy of US energy independence during the Trump administration, so you're apparently completely oblivious of the fact that the US imported more than a half a billion barrels of oil from Russia during Trump's presidency. The economy under Trump was nothing more than continuing trends until it came time for him to actually lead the country during the pandemic whereupon he fell flat on his face with his clusterfuck of pandemic mismanagement. He ended up leaving the biggest mess behind him when he got his smelly diapered behind booted out of the White House since Herbert Hoover.

[@osajohnson1957]

@@rhodyreport8949 OK. Conald. How many accounts do you have?

[@Lord1cyrus]

These long fomr interviews are amazing. I thank Marie Yovanovitch for her tireless service.

[@MsTMarie83]

Absolutely adored her! Such a true American hero! Her numerous testimonies were always so good! Wish we had heeded her warnings more

[@DennisMurphey]

Hardly recognized Ms Yovanovitch she looks so relaxed today, Still speaks from experience and knowledge, Very Bright! Hope we can get her back in the Foreign service. Great post, Thank You, Dennis

[@billwalsh388]

I'm glad she survived the Trump crime spree.

[@emilyhennig2694]

I have been waiting for this one!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!

[@igor_kilgunov]

Agree with you, me too 🙂

[@janegardener1662]

A well-spoken, intelligent woman with an excellent assessment of Putin's character and motives. Thank you.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

She is the type of person that Frontline would like to have on their program.

[@tangodaze]

@@jakebredthauer5100 this is Frontline

[@jordomayor5224]

Yes intelligent, well spoken and a wonderful natured Lady of which there weren't any inside TRAITOR D.TRUMPS administration of that time! And Mrs. Yavanovitch has kept her grace and dignity and carries this in her expression. Thank you very much Mrs. Yavanovitch for staying your wonderful self after all you were put through. THE WORLD AND ESPECIALLY EUROPE AND GERMANY NEEDS YOU TO COME AND TALK ON TALKSHOWS SO TO GIVE US GERMANS A REAL INSIGHT OF WHATS HAPPENED NOT ONLY TO YOU BUT MOREOVER OF HOW RUSSIA WAS HELPED BY TRAITOR TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES TO GO AHEAD WITH PUTINS PLANS.

[@peramundsson2006]

This series of interviews is very interesting. I have listened to the interviews with John Bolton and Julia Ioffe, and just like Marie Yovanovitch they also really know what they are talking about. Thank you PBS for this great series.

[@davidfentonhancock6646]

We have never heard of Marie Yovanovitch.......but there is a 21st century woman........Thank you Marie.

[@AK-hi7mg]

Complete NPC.

[@greta9558]

Ambassador Yovanovitch . Head held high for good reason .......a rare quality these days ............integrity..............She walked through fire in front of the world . She looks great :)

[@ThePinonpete]

Marie, thank you so much for your intelligent insight. I think if everyone had the knowledge and insight you have none of us would would be able to sleep ! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@SJmystic]

It is a testament to Ms. Yovanovitch's character that she remains hopeful about how the U.S. can play a positive role in the world, despite the travesty of how she was treated in her role in Ukraine during the Trump administration. What happened to her shone a spotlight on the issue of bad actors/actions that were so prevalent in the Trump administration. I am thankful to the Frontline staff/leadership that such interviews are conducted so that we might have a fuller picture of significant events transpiring in our time, and I am appreciative of the quality of the interviewers, which is so key to helping important information be documented in these settings. 🙏

[@ColonelRichardHunter]

UMMM Hunter Biden!!! 🤣 🤣 8

[@jaxfli]

Thank You💕Marie💕 for all that you’ve done, America is Forever Grateful 🇺🇸

[@parkersmith7611]

Hello Jaxfli how are you doing today?

[@yorkymc]

Thank you to this Lady they tried to destroy her but she is still here

[@debbiekrieger81]

Her insight is important. She was broadsided and had no idea that Trump even knew who she was until he used her as a pawn. Her book is a “Must Read”. I learned so much about how the wealthy stripped Russia of their resources… how Oligarchy was created and how they hurt their own countries. How TRUST was uncommon within many of the countries that broke off or out of the Soviet Union. This part isn’t political. Just interesting and helpful to understand the world

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Could you give me a name to the book ?

[@USBBenson]

@@DrumToTheBassWoop Lessons from the edge

[@youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850]

Best series on this topic ! I am amazed by the intelligence being displayed here by true experts in their field. This wonderful individual is also an extremely brave woman. I have long hung on every word that She has to say. Impressive is not nearly enough - Amazing ! is my choice of description for ambassadors like Her !

[@hawkbartril3016]

What about Russia - gate baby doll, so have you given up on that one. But Hilary cliton got some good results from that.

[@hawkbartril3016]

Would you believe it Ukraine is winning. Ukraine is winning. Listen to her she says Russia blew up their very expensive pipeline when they didn't know at that time if their economy would pull through and they could of just turned it off. She's insane.

[@hawkbartril3016]

Excuse me but you like to flip the narrative around, because nazi's are such nice people, they told eastern Ukrainians who speak Russian that they can't speak it anymore. This is documented FACT. And if they didn't stop being Russian then they can go live there. Where can anyone show me the Russians where doing the equivalent. Some of the propaganda from people, who are always American, is so depraved, I even heard this lecturer saying how the Russia had on TV about how they were going to drown the screaming children in the river. It's so much something I would expect nazi's to do, or a country that is going to use another countries men to fight (die) so they don't have to !!! And how many times it has been said is shocking. They just were supposed to supply the weapons. But it looks like that won't go on for long. If they had given Ukrainians the weapons they really needed then Ukraine would be in better shape now. Zelensky comes across like a demanding brat to most, but he is only asking for what he was promised, as any leader would. Just shows what a great partner the US is. As Europe found out as well. Soon the US is going to have a huge wobbly about the mighty dollar not being used by the BRICS coalition. And the world will pay.

[@ginmar8134]

@@hawkbartril3016 God, you Russian bots aren't even trying.

[@janicepargh5155]

It’s refreshing to listen to someone who knows what she’s talking about.

[@johnnicholas1488]

A very intelligent and informed person. She is a very effective public servant. I thank her.

[@francisspause5627]

Um

[@suehowie152]

@@imveryhungry112 What?🤷

[@fwfeo]

She’s part of US imperial project. Neocon! Wolfowitz doctrine! US wanting to regime change Russia through a failed war against Ukraine. Using Ukraine as proxy, acting like Afghanistan for USSR…

[@NAKEDGARDENER]

Please like and subscribe to help PBS be more recognized by the You Tube algorithm. We all need to see more of this type of balanced information... Thank You PBS.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

Why does Frontline publish so many at one time?

[@erosmyers]

balanced informatio?n PURE CIA PENATGON warmongering Russiaphobia sickness is not balanced . it is pure evil

[@robbiemitchell1601]

This interview is stunning. When the US has people such as Maria Yovanovich, why on earth did they elect a person such as Trump as President? Putin could twiddle Trump around his little finger. Furthermore, Trump prejudiced national security for his personal advancement. She has performed outstandingly. She has answered all questions forthrightly, with a deep knowledge of the subject. I listened spellbound.

[@zer0homer]

As Russian deep in inner emigration, I must tell you, that majority of voters are not all that bright and have comprehension on the level of jackdaw. Hence the popularity of religion, conspiracy theories and populists, those are simplistic. You give them some sophisticated and nuanced take on how the world is and they distrust you. You spout something-something, J-peepos bad, we gud and great, boost their primal need of self-confidence, and you get stadiums of 'caw-caw, we great, caw-caw, god bless'. Capitalize on lukewarm IQ and you will be happier than any honest intellectual ever -_-

[@geoffrohde2886]

Who did Putin get 20% of our Uranium production from? Geoff Rohde

[@robbiemitchell1601]

@@geoffrohde2886 President Obama! Obama had a golden opportunity to intervene in Ukraine militarily, or at least to call Putin's bluff. This might sound simplistic, but when Putin gives the assurance that Russian troops are not involved, surely it opens the door for Obama to say, "well, then we are sending troops in to restore the boundaries!"

[@AlleyandGrey]

@@geoffrohde2886 👈 Macedonia bot farm account

[@wfdix1]

As she concedes, Obama did not send Javelins. Marie said she was in favor of sending Javelins. Trump changed policy and sent Javelins. Folks have a tendency to gloss over the good work Trump did, and get reckless with the truth. Unfortunately, Marie later learned that Biden was also negotiating for his personal interest with Hunter. So, both parties do what they do, it just gets twisted by the media for their own personal gain.

[@randomcommenteronyoutube1055]

This series brought in some of the greatest people. Outstanding.

[@dotabuff5288]

SO MANY BOTS HERE, STOP TYPING BULLSH1T, SHE IS A WARMONGER AND A LIAR

[@randomcommenteronyoutube1055]

@@dotabuff5288 The Muscovites have played their silly influence-buying, prince & barbarian management, and stealth political espionage games for far too long. The Eastern Slavs would be better off under a new paradigm of government. The Muscovites can go join Genghis Khan in the underworld, exactly where they belong.

[@arthurpbs]

Never hard about her, and honestly she said only trivial knowledge and common sense, with fairly tails as such there is a "west" almost the classical west is the best, for propaganda purposes this is good, but one hour for propaganda is too much

[@Driver-ur9mf]

@@arthurpbs listen Marco, same stuff different decade, the left is into brainwashing. Once upon the time, the west was cowboys, wagon trains, cattle drives, now it is capitalist misogynist sexist racist and wherever the next decades talking points are going. Hang on tight, circle back ..

[@banditsomboonvinij3979]

As part of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum signed by the US, UK and Russian Federation, Ukraine surrendered the world’s third-largest nuclear arsenal inherited from the USSR in return for security guarantees. That is why UK & USA have kept promising in supporting Ukraine for security and territorial integrity against Russian Federation for territorial interests as well as security.

[@susanblakey-grusing9468]

So true. Not talked about or written about enough. People forget. Please tell the Reality of how Ukraine 🇺🇦 has become vulnerable to this war.

[@B_Bodziak]

@@saccount-z3 Not since WW2. You are incorrect.

[@ahyaok100]

Putin played everybody like a fiddle. Just one more step in his plan.

[@susanblakey-grusing9468]

Putin Burned Himself

[@gigie555]

Hey wait a second...the Budapest memorandum also stated that each country pledged not to compromise the security of the other. Ukraine making a bid to join NATO, an anti Russian aggessive alliance (ie Serbia, Lybia Afghanistan), pretty well invalidated that.

[@impm1164]

Marie, Julia and Antony Blinken, great analisys.

[@xenaflatout]

All thumbs up for you Marie, I do believe that you are right and I think the same way you do 💙💛 Glory to Ukraine 💙💛 Slava Ukraini 💙💛

[@joeyfotofr]

Powerful presentation. Almost flawless in articulating a clear understanding of the situation with Putin, Russia, EU, NATO & America. Brilliant speaker. No backtracking & no BS. The one place where I disagree is on the time frame of Ukrainian Nationalism. I'm an American who has not been in America for 12 years. Before I left the US, I attended lectures at Stanford's Eastern European Institute on the political & cultural history of Ukraine. Ukrainian nationalism, with a fully formed political, linguistic & cultural identity, did not begin in 2014. Without following breadcrumbs to 17th century Cossack rebellions, it was a powerful force in 19th century poetry and art, and a core of much of the resistance to Nazi atrocities. Putine is In denial of more than the political reality of Ukraine; he is also blind the the culture of the Ukrainian people, which has certainly now gained in power, even among Russian speakers.

[@hawkbartril3016]

God the state of it, how many of you know anything about geopolitics or you get it from the newspaper

[@hawkbartril3016]

I bet this is funded by the state somehow. Fascists, that qualifies your country as one, but you can't even call you a country because your an empire. 800 bases in 70 countries

[@happyhappynuts]

Excellent point, National identity became forming much earlier.

[@mariocastro7379]

Awesome Lady! Awesome knowledge! Stay safe!

[@osajohnson1957]

Dr. Yovanovitch, you look great!

[@uncapabrew4807]

Right ! Who does her eyebrows hook me up!

[@B_Bodziak]

@@uncapabrew4807 Bobbi Brown shadow in sable and brown.

[@orctowngrot8842]

It seems strange how much of what happens in the world comes down to personality (flaws) of individuals. How important integrity, accountability and WISDOM are needed in our public figures.

[@brucemclennan9715]

Clear-headed, concise, while remaining diplomatic, what a professional.

[@dendricalabro5058]

very beautiful interview. great woman. We need more (woman and men) like her.

[@gotrescuedauto3584]

AWESOME INTERVIEW 👌

[@seanburton5298]

I am hopeful as well. Thank you for this interview.

[@benedictcowell6547]

This lady is one of the several women I have seen that gives me a great deal of hope that the more women are in charge the better except in the United Kingdom Tory Party

[@g4snk]

What an outstanding Ambassador! Disappointed that our Ambassador Yovanovitch was undermined.

[@juanitaross5492]

Was it Yavanivich, who had her life threatened and had to leave in the middle of the night?

[@jordomayor5224]

Yes you are spot on with your comment. DONALD TRUMP should still be held accountable for all the pain and sorrow Mrs Yovanovitch had to suffer. Her life was stood on its head and that by such a complete LOSER and TRAITOR not only of the Americans but also a TRAITOR the international ALLIANCE

[@NAKEDGARDENER]

Great series of Interviews

[@FoxMacLeod2501]

I'm so happy to be able to watch older _Frontline_ stuff. Funny how all the for-profit subscription services, like HBO, Steam, and Netflix, are constantly removing content - HBO has been removing the ability to watch even major HBO-produced original shows, like _Westworld_ and _Raised By Wolves,_ effectively deciding to cease providing parts of the deal subscribers are paying for. The weirdest one is their show, _Minx,_ which had a popular first season, and thus was picked up for a second season. I was actually really looking forward to it. Then, recently, and literally **one week** before filming for that second season was completed - keeping in mind that they've _already paid to produce the second season_ - they announced that they decided to cancel it! While not for profit PBS, as always _not_ raking in the bushels of bucks like these subscription services are, they have no problem keeping the original content they created available for us to see. For free.

[@Yuyayayu872]

I think HBO prefers the tax write off of canceling a show instead of publishing a show produces by dozens of people's work. Capitalism sucks.

[@junglecat_rant]

What does it have to do with an interview with the former ambassador to Ukraine?

[@wills2140]

While this comment is not directly about the former Ambassador to Ukraine ( from U S A ), I understand the sentiment. PBS ( and 60 Minutes and others ) keeps its content available ( including posting archive videos ), where the changes at HBOMax and policies at Netflix has those companies removing some older content lik this ( also partly due to the terrible changes brought in from the Discovery purchase ). It is a testament about how PBS will keep content like the whole long form interview we see freely available, using just a small amount of public spending and contributions.

[@simianessence]

@@junglecat_rant It doesn't. But that's OK 👌. I gave it a like, as did many others.

[@maijaliepa119]

🦅Thank You for These Comments 🦅All gratitude PBS 🦅

[@audreyw115]

Love Marie! Great episode.

[@charvaka9526]

Marie.

[@audreyw115]

@@charvaka9526 I know - I realized too late. Thank you.

[@hawkbartril3016]

Sad

[@lilUrso11]

A very knowledgeable interview, whose perspective needed to be told

[@fidelvera7190]

Really , you very ignorant

[@trevorvantiel453]

Well done PBS Frontline. Amazing series 👏

[@BlueBaron3339]

Her courage during those hearings while getting the mean tweets from that sack of human sewage who tried to ruin her for no moral reason, oh how she impressed me. And the expression in her eyes of both sadness and resolve. That was moving. Her subsequent book was fascinating. And, apart from that verbal "um...um...um" tick, this was a captivating interview as well.

[@tonymills5086]

Sometimes you just got to shake your head, what's wrong with America? This woman was a straight shooter, smart honest, experienced career diploma truth i s

[@tonymills5086]

A truth is, she was removed from office because if we buy a corrupt and evil Donald Trump, no doubt at the advice Rudy Giuliani who was seeking to do Trump's dirty work, now of course, we couldn't have this woman known for her integrity in our way could we so Trump fired her!

[@lukemurray4950]

She said Russia is saying it is a big boys world and smaller nations will just have to put up with it but yet she ignores, this is exactly what America done with Cuba and most of South America and would do it again. No nation in the Americas is allowed to have the freedom to have a military alliance with anyone outside the Americas.

[@malgorzataojoj4256]

at the US does not do it with full scale invasion, tanks, howitzers, missiles, with killing lists, mass murders, mass rapes, and mass graves. They are not attacking these countries infrastructure, taking away access to electricity and drinking water. I do not endorse US's dirty operations, but what Russia is doing now it's something else.

[@TrilobitesRTasty]

@@lukemurray4950 And yet, nations in the Americas do have those alliances. But, Putin spews his propaganda, and there are those who parrot that propaganda.

[@rick91443]

Great. Fantastic set of interviews regarding Ukraine War...rr Normandy,Fra.

[@elainewinger7967]

Mrs Yovanovitch seems to Really know her stuff!!! It's too bad Trump can't stand it when a woman is as Smart as she is and has a brain!

[@SCRUT]

@Elaine Does Marie really believe in the stupid myth of restoring Russian empire? Probably not She knows Russia gave independence to 13 former USSR republics since 1990 not to take them back For which dumb audience does she make such absurd statements?

[@trishameenaghan8982]

Weak, hollow men can't accept that they are bottom-feeders!

[@RAWGRIP54]

She is RIGHT!

[@billwalsh388]

Really great interview! This guy asked all the right questions, and I think got very good answers.

[@FCMC123]

Bot 🤖

[@marita3739]

Not at all.

[@azs12451]

Excellent. She answered all the questions.... not like our politicians. Dzvinka

[@denisfries6128]

Guys thank you, great interview!

[@PatriciaD115]

52:27 Great interview .. great woman. Thank you for the education

[@francisspause5627]

Um

[@hawkbartril3016]

Well if you like propaganda? You do realize that the US regards the information highway a weapon, and spends a considerable amount on it. If Russia does then they are failing badly, don't you think. How much do you think you might of heard from them ?. I mean they've even convinced many that Russia would blow up it own pipeline, when they have a tap to stop the flow. I really couldn't believe she was persisting with that after western analysis decided it wasn't them. Someone should update her.

[@NoticePerception]

Her book taught me how much work our foreign affairs people do. Her years in that region were interesting to read about. Thank you, Marie Yovanovitch for you dedication.

[@sclogse1]

Bolton worked with her too. I read his big book. Despite any political or character opinions about him, his front line experience with Iran, Turkey, Venezuela, etc. Is solid. For these reasons, I think his book is like a ten unit course in international affairs.

[@MrBox4soumendu]

Hats off - these are the qualities to becoming an ambassador 😮❤

[@dotabuff5288]

SO MANY BOTS HERE, STOP TYPING BULLSH1T, SHE IS A WARMONGER AND A LIAR

[@sumitkar8146]

Absolutely brilliant

[@noneya7297]

Love her! ❤

[@narinelimanoff4715]

Really good interview. I was born in former USSR Armenia an moved to US as a teen. Russia has always been the aggressor,, and Russian people only fight the government when they are hungry and have nothing to loos. So this may be a long war until there is hunger in Moscow. Slava Ukraini! No War!

[@billeib427]

Check out another frontline with Russian specialist Julia Ioffe, same ground but does a better breakdown of the US Prez-s and Putin's opinions of those Prez-s. Funny stuff.

[@narinelimanoff4715]

@@billeib427 Yes! The interview with Julia Ioffe is excellent.

[@michel3691]

@@billeib427 I will check it out.

[@anonymousoutis6420]

@@narinelimanoff4715 Russia has always been the aggressor???? you're maybe right. after Iraq, Lybia, Seria, Afgha, now ukraine. bad russia huh ?

[@narinelimanoff4715]

​@@anonymousoutis6420 🤣🤣🤣🤣so if your friend jumps from the Empire State building so will you? Don't forget Russian aggression towards Chechnia, Poland, Germany, Czechoslovakia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belorussia, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kirgiziya , Latvia, Lithuania, Moldavia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Yakutia, AND THE LIST GOES ON!!!!!!

[@musicbygoldenj]

Please upload ‘Putin and the Presidents’ full documentary 😊 🙏

[@dankelly2147]

Excellent retrospection. Thank you.

[@nml5536]

Thank you Marie!

[@SeamusDunmaggotin]

Thankyou so much for this.

[@christianfaust5141]

This format about the development of Putin is excellent...I really appreciate it.

[@jasonbeedon9867]

“Exactly where is the empire of lies?” Well said.

[@SCRUT]

@Jason Marie is still spreading the obsolete imaginary assessment of Putin's starting plan

[@fredsimmons2793]

Even when not " buttoned down" this fine woman is formidable and should brook no disrespect from anyone.

[@ttrestle]

Another great interview

[@user-gi4zx3ci4x]

Interesting and fascinating!

[@dorenerussell2668]

Fabulous!!!!!!!!!!

[@dizzydog3350]

another excellant interview so pleased to have come across this site.

[@JaferArac]

It is nice to see M.Y. again. Great interview!.. M.Y. question is how will the elections in Turkey affect Russia?

[@MichaelFlynn0]

Bless you Frontline .. we get to see the metal of these public servants.

[@scriptsmith4081]

Yes, even if it is base metal

[@MichaelFlynn0]

@@scriptsmith4081 - even more importantly if it is base.

[@dr.michaellittle5611]

What an amazing woman ❤

[@hawkbartril3016]

Hahahaahah

[@mpakakas3518]

Define "woman".

[@xijinpig7978]

@@mpakakas3518 Putin in skirt

[@dotabuff5288]

*SO MANY BOTS HERE, STOP TYPING BULLSH1T, SHE IS A WARMONGER AND A LIAR*

[@AlleyandGrey]

@@hawkbartril3016 👈 Macedonia bot farm account

[@antekp2965]

As a Pole, I am grateful to President Biden and his government for their strong support of Ukraine. I have more Republican views, which is why I am so shocked by Tucker Carlson's pro-Russian stance. This is a disgrace to Fox News

[@hugodgranados4215]

U shouldn't be surprised .......he is part of a power hungry cult that will not stop till they r anointed kings and queens and have total power over the entire world and they will all lie cheat kill anyone and everyone that gets in their way

[@jakebredthauer5100]

US and Ukraine forced Russia to invade.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

@@hugodgranados4215 Çommunists are power hungry.

[@antekp2965]

@@jakebredthauer5100 ???

[@jakebredthauer5100]

@@antekp2965 Socialism is a centralization of power.

[@ryankiefer1111]

history’s halls are lined by the shadows of the few who have tried to do good for many, but were maligned by those with unquenched thirst for more power, money, or whatever floats their goat. if there is a heaven for humans, surely you have secured your place there Marie Yovanovich; if angels, lack a place to hang their halo’s, than certainly you have hung yours around the heart and aspirations of many aspiring altruists. stay strong, and keep educating the next generation of mini-Yovs.

[@minaanacreonte8472]

This lady should run for president, v impressed with her well rounded, careful, intelligent & impartial dialogue.

[@marita3739]

Hell NO.

[@piushalg8175]

She clearly wants to avoid open criticism of the Obama administration. But I remember that it was Obama who for instance cancelled the stationing of the rocket defence systems in Poland and in Rumania after he was reelected. And he was kind of caught making the promise to cancel the plan to Medvedev shortly before the election of 2011. This was not a sign of strengh and angered Poland a lot because Poland had invested heavily in convincing her population to accept this plan of the US.

[@wesleyedwards2764]

It was a tradeoff that Obama made in order to achieve his domestic agenda. Yeah, it's a black eye, but Obama achieved a lot in his terms considering the opposition he faced. Today the US embraces Ukraine fully, but look what is happening on Fox. Could this have happened in 2014? The release of the Jan 6 tapes to Carlson is essentially a declaration of war from the GOP. I can't see it any other way. They are toxic; America be damned. Tonight, TC framed the war in Ukraine as some kind of electioneering stunt starting in 2016. This ish is dangerous. It isn't democratic and it isn't American.

[@CaptainJeffo]

Vietnam, Irak, Syria, Libië, Afghanistan ...

[@Mike-gi2oi]

Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraine…

[@afterought6275]

I wish, we outside of the US would have PBS channel.

[@techcafe0]

aside from the money, there's nothing stopping you from starting your own public broadcasting service :) we definitely need more public broadcasters rather than private-for-profit corporate media.

[@juancmogollon2078]

Great interview to a very determined woman dealing with actual international affairs, pleasure to watch

[@user-up9jf1jq2w]

he did not need to be provoked to invade, in fact he did it without any help from outside

[@odoggow8157]

Taking back what is yours isn't an invasion!

[@ginniemess]

@@odoggow8157 go away, nasty bot

[@streamofexperience875]

@@odoggow8157 Whoa there Russian shill!!! F.O. with your assertion that Putin and his mafia cronies somehow OWN a whole country the majority of whom want absolutely nothing to do with him/them; who do you think Putin and those who share power around him are??? Not only is Ukraine NOT Putin's/Russia's, but also the wealth that Putin and those around him have taken control of has been stolen. So please don't be so f. stupid as to imply that Putin/Russia "owns" a state just because they happened to manage to control and subjugate it in the past. Next you'll be claiming that India belongs to the UK!! And another thing: if you're rolling tanks, artillery and other armour over a border along which you started out parked along and then start firing literally millions of pieces of ammunition at targets and levellilng whole villages towns and cities and murdering tens of thousands of defenders, then that, by the very definition of the word, is without question a f. INVASION. That's an asbolute certainty, and only someone with brain damage would be excused for disagreeing with that.

[@neincre]

@@odoggow8157

[@neincre]

aa In Europe the majority does not care what Russia is doing in Ukraine. We experienced Nazism it comes natural to us to side with Russia.

[@rochesterjohnny7555]

What she is saying at 29:30 is hugely important we in the US and UK better be prepared for this and up to the task

[@jc2delaga]

Thank you so much Mrs Marie Yavanovitch for your intelligent insight. God gives Ukraine 🇺🇦 the VICTORY w the United States 🇺🇸 to the side. VOTE 🗳 FOR DEMOCRACY

[@tandrichter]

Splendid guest you have interviewed.

[@corinnenioxchateau5760]

So smart, so courageous and responsible, a tribute to the United States. Thank you!

[@parkersmith7611]

Hello Corinne how are you doing today?

[@acommon1]

Solid

[@bluestarfishmurphy6372]

This interview is interesting in that ex ambassador Yovanovitch, is more open, less guarded, not in the slighted sense evasive and is immediate in her response to every question. I can't remember another diplomat from any country answering questions on very difficult issues, with as much honesty and integrity and with such fluency. She is to be congratulated for her courage and example. If only the politicians involved, had a fraction of her commonsense and vision, perhaps the war could have been avoided. Instead she is dismissed and the world is at the event horizon of a black hole. The political paranoia of those in control, could have gained much from the example of such a remarkable woman. Mind you , the US could start the ball rolling by admitting it's mistake and giving her a new post like Paris. Thanks Marie

[@scriptsmith4081]

"Such fluency" ( like when she said Russia had blown up its own pipeline "allegedly"- that's not fluency, that's sophistry.)

[@englishwithethan8052]

A very in-depth interview. Retrospectively, hopefully the world has really learned from the war in Ukraine.

[@hawkbartril3016]

She's a lying witch. For instance if Ukraine is winning why did the Americans just say they are sending 200 men over to the front to apparently fix machinery, and 2000 will follow. Well I certainly don't believe they are are there to fight and neither will the Russians so if they get as destroyed as the Ukrainians have been, what will happen then. Full blown war between the two super powers. And as far as her belief that Ukraine is winning - if so why do you need to send 2200 troops to start with. Please think

[@mpakakas3518]

Yes it did!! American troops are going home from all the bases around the planet!! The american naval fleets stop patrolling the seas and will return home too. No more NSA radar bases and electronic espionage bases too!! And, of course, no more black sites and without trial imprisonments for "terrorism" whatsoever!! YEAH!!!!

[@lucanidae100]

They never will have learned. Humans are killers

[@williamyoung9401]

"Only the dead have seen the end of war." -Plato

[@sabinehahn9774]

It didn't learn from the war on Iran, so chances for learning for this one are very slim.

[@mattsantana7701]

Marie Yovanovitch's quick mind is exactly they type of person the United States needs in the highest levels of diplomacy to avert the worst, as we strive for the best case outcomes with our international friends and foes.

[@seanedwards5495]

Marie Yovanovitch represents the best of American society. Kudos to her for her dedicated public service.

[@johngalt0096]

Brilliance displayed as usual.

[@citizenenak]

This is an achilles heel for Putin, the notion he sees the West as losing interest is to express his limited perspective. He always is the center of any calculus he makes which limits his view and can't see our very real concern even felt to some degree by Russia. The West sees his behavior as an existential crisis to the normalcy we've been able to etch out of this world and will respond in kind staying engaged even planning for GOP house rule.

[@PortsladeBySea]

Excellent interview. It has helped me understand why Russia is in the mess it is. Sadly many of the former USSR nations are at risk of invasion 😰

[@RafaelAlves-vd7et]

She is really sharp .

[@B.Abe.]

Great interview! My only advice is to work on the 'Umm's' and 'Uh's' , other than that 👍👌.

[@sprocket071]

She talks about a nefarious "Rules based Order." What exactly is that and whatever happened to International Law?

[@chazz4411]

The New World Order, a cashless technocratic dictatorship. You will own nothing and be happy.

[@moonwalking1929]

Wonderful interview, but just one important remark: the US is not the most important single partner for Ukraine. EU provided billions in assistance to Ukraine, and more is yet to come. On security aspects the US is, indeed the most relevant partner by far, but not overall. After all Ukraine is part of Eastern Partnership initiative, and it has important commitments in consequence.

[@hawkbartril3016]

You are on the moon aren't you. Funnyman

[@moonwalking1929]

@@hawkbartril3016 Well, as a matter of fact I am studying (PhD) the subject since 2014 so I know quite a lot of things. Providing to Ukraine the opportunity to join the EU is by far the most tangible way to integrate Ukraine into the international system. It is quite unfortunate that the EU and its member states do not take the credit they deserve.

[@hawkbartril3016]

@@moonwalking1929 if you're info is bad then you'll learn squat and the wests info on Ukraine is one lie after the other

[@neincre]

@@moonwalking1929-